The "Bible Belt" is commonly associated with the American South, since that is where many of the fundamentalist Christian groups had their base of power in the late 1800s and early 1900s. But other parts of the country, like the rural section of Oregon where Barks grew up, have been lumped into the mixture at times.
Also note that one of the most famous and politically influential fundamentalist Christians in America was William Jennings Bryan, he of the three failed Presidential campaigns and the disastrous "expert witness" turn in the "Scopes monkey trial" of 1925. He was a "fire-breathing" traditionalist in religion who ALSO happened to be a strong progressive. So the "fundamentalist" = "conservative" equation has never been quite as balanced as Europeans and some Americans might think.
Chris Barat
Author
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Kimba1962
DCML Digest, Vol 26, Issue 12 (Bible Belt)
Message 61 -
2005-04-10 at 02:37:20
Gary Leach
Lo$
Message 62 -
2005-04-10 at 19:27:41
> To anyone involved at Gemstone or Gary Leach:
> Do you know when your special hardback edition of "Life and Times"
> comes
> out? Since it will be limited, I would not mind ordering it right
> now!!!
> Sincerely,
> Anthony
The one edition of "Lo$" currently in production is a prestige format
book ? re: US and WDCS ? that will collect all twelve original chapters
with accompanying editorial features. A hardbound edition is being
considered, but is not scheduled at this time.
> The "Bible Belt" is commonly associated with the American South, since
> that is where?many of the fundamentalist Christian groups had their
> base of power in the late 1800s and early 1900s.? But other parts of
> the country, like the rural section of Oregon?where?Barks grew up,
> have been lumped into the mixture at times.
> ?
> Also note that one of the most famous and politically influential
> fundamentalist Christians in America was William Jennings Bryan, he of
> the three failed Presidential campaigns and the disastrous "expert
> witness" turn in the?"Scopes monkey trial" of 1925.? He was a
> "fire-breathing" traditionalist in religion who ALSO happened to be a
> strong progressive.? So the "fundamentalist" = "conservative"
> equation?has never been quite as balanced as?Europeans and some
> Americans might think.?
> ?
> Chris Barat
This is so true, and a point egregiously underrepresented in the
current climate of political polarization that's gripped this country.
All in all, I've always been glad that Barks stayed away from overt
religious topics and references ? there was probably never any
particular impetus to explore them in "throwaway entertainment" anyway
? so we can enjoy his work free of confrontation with such issues (and
the inevitable ? and almost inevitably ugly ? controversies they'd
create).
Gary
> Do you know when your special hardback edition of "Life and Times"
> comes
> out? Since it will be limited, I would not mind ordering it right
> now!!!
> Sincerely,
> Anthony
The one edition of "Lo$" currently in production is a prestige format
book ? re: US and WDCS ? that will collect all twelve original chapters
with accompanying editorial features. A hardbound edition is being
considered, but is not scheduled at this time.
> The "Bible Belt" is commonly associated with the American South, since
> that is where?many of the fundamentalist Christian groups had their
> base of power in the late 1800s and early 1900s.? But other parts of
> the country, like the rural section of Oregon?where?Barks grew up,
> have been lumped into the mixture at times.
> ?
> Also note that one of the most famous and politically influential
> fundamentalist Christians in America was William Jennings Bryan, he of
> the three failed Presidential campaigns and the disastrous "expert
> witness" turn in the?"Scopes monkey trial" of 1925.? He was a
> "fire-breathing" traditionalist in religion who ALSO happened to be a
> strong progressive.? So the "fundamentalist" = "conservative"
> equation?has never been quite as balanced as?Europeans and some
> Americans might think.?
> ?
> Chris Barat
This is so true, and a point egregiously underrepresented in the
current climate of political polarization that's gripped this country.
All in all, I've always been glad that Barks stayed away from overt
religious topics and references ? there was probably never any
particular impetus to explore them in "throwaway entertainment" anyway
? so we can enjoy his work free of confrontation with such issues (and
the inevitable ? and almost inevitably ugly ? controversies they'd
create).
Gary
Anthony Vuono
Reply to Gary
Message 63 -
2005-04-10 at 20:23:24
>The one edition of "Lo$" currently in production is a prestige format
>book - re: US and WDCS - that will collect all twelve original chapters
>with accompanying editorial features. A hardbound edition is being
>considered, but is not scheduled at this time.
Dear Gary Leach,
Thanks for your quick response. I intend on buying this version
definitely when the date for its release in June becomes closer. However, I
sincerely hope you go ahead with your hardback edition one day, because I
think it will be popular....maybe even with Don Rosa's B-chapters, including
the soon-to-be upcoming "The Prisoner of White Agony Creek." Anyways, thanks
for producing these comics. I enjoy them very much every month and look
forward to whatever projects you have planned for the future!
Sincerely,
Anthony
>book - re: US and WDCS - that will collect all twelve original chapters
>with accompanying editorial features. A hardbound edition is being
>considered, but is not scheduled at this time.
Dear Gary Leach,
Thanks for your quick response. I intend on buying this version
definitely when the date for its release in June becomes closer. However, I
sincerely hope you go ahead with your hardback edition one day, because I
think it will be popular....maybe even with Don Rosa's B-chapters, including
the soon-to-be upcoming "The Prisoner of White Agony Creek." Anyways, thanks
for producing these comics. I enjoy them very much every month and look
forward to whatever projects you have planned for the future!
Sincerely,
Anthony
Santiago García
Italian creators
Message 64 -
2005-04-11 at 13:46:31
Hello to everybody:
Could anyone tell me which Italian classical creators
are still active and publishing stories? Romano
Scarpa, Giorgio Cavazzano, Massimo de Vita, Sandro del
Conte, Luciano Botaro, Luciano Gatto, Sergio
Asteritti?
(I know Guido Scala, Guido Martina and Giovan Battista
Carpi died years ago).
Thanks in advance.
Santiago.
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Could anyone tell me which Italian classical creators
are still active and publishing stories? Romano
Scarpa, Giorgio Cavazzano, Massimo de Vita, Sandro del
Conte, Luciano Botaro, Luciano Gatto, Sergio
Asteritti?
(I know Guido Scala, Guido Martina and Giovan Battista
Carpi died years ago).
Thanks in advance.
Santiago.
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Message 65 -
2005-04-12 at 05:37:20
I wonder if there is a central archive in which all negatives of Disney
comics are stored:
Original art is (to my knowledge) given back to the creators after it
has been photographed. The negatives should be stored in a safe place
somewhere. Where is it located? Somewhere at Disney? Who may look into
its inventory?
Is each foreign licensee obligated to deliver a negative of comics they
had created for them?
Are color films also archived or just the b/w linwork? And are the texts
and foreign translations also archived?
How was it possible to get the comics by Carl Barks in such excellent
shape we see them in today? Comics from other publishers (like Marvel)
which were created at the same time seem to be far less lucky. Have all
Disney comics been stored as negatives? Or was restoration from the
printed comics necessary? If yes: Who did it?
And have negatives of Gottfredson's Mickey Mouse and Al Taliaferro's
Donald Duck strips also survived?
And how about comics in the digital age: Are they stored as digital
files on digital storage media (CDs, tapes, harddisks) today? Are there
additional negatives for security against data loss?
Why do I consider these questions important?
1) I want to know how faithful modern reproductions can be to the
original comics.
2) I would like to be sure Disney comics from the past and present will
survive for future generations of readers, collectors and scholars.
Any information on this topic would be very welcome!
Cord
comics are stored:
Original art is (to my knowledge) given back to the creators after it
has been photographed. The negatives should be stored in a safe place
somewhere. Where is it located? Somewhere at Disney? Who may look into
its inventory?
Is each foreign licensee obligated to deliver a negative of comics they
had created for them?
Are color films also archived or just the b/w linwork? And are the texts
and foreign translations also archived?
How was it possible to get the comics by Carl Barks in such excellent
shape we see them in today? Comics from other publishers (like Marvel)
which were created at the same time seem to be far less lucky. Have all
Disney comics been stored as negatives? Or was restoration from the
printed comics necessary? If yes: Who did it?
And have negatives of Gottfredson's Mickey Mouse and Al Taliaferro's
Donald Duck strips also survived?
And how about comics in the digital age: Are they stored as digital
files on digital storage media (CDs, tapes, harddisks) today? Are there
additional negatives for security against data loss?
Why do I consider these questions important?
1) I want to know how faithful modern reproductions can be to the
original comics.
2) I would like to be sure Disney comics from the past and present will
survive for future generations of readers, collectors and scholars.
Any information on this topic would be very welcome!
Cord
Botto Armando
Italian creators
Message 66 -
2005-04-12 at 11:47:34
Santiago wrote:
> Could anyone tell me which Italian classical creators are still active and
publishing stories? Romano Scarpa, Giorgio Cavazzano, Massimo de Vita,
Sandro del Conte, Luciano Botaro, Luciano Gatto, Sergio Asteritti?
All of the above creators are still active. Here are their latest
appearances in the Italian weekly:
Cavazzano: "Topolino" 2577 (19/04/2005)
Gatto: "Topolino" 2573 (22/03/2005)
Asteriti: "Topolino" 2572 (15/03/2005)
Bottaro: "Topolino" 2567 (08/02/2005)
M. De Vita: "Topolino" 2560 (21/12/2004)
Del Conte: "Topolino" 2543 (24/08/2004)
Romano Scarpa doesn't draw for Disney Italia anymore, but he's producing
stories for Egmont. Last month's "Zio Paperone" printed his "Sequel Machine"
story, written by DCML-member Olaf Solstrand.
And, speaking of classical Italian masters, you shouldn't forget:
- Giulio Chierchini, who inked his first Disney story 51 years ago (!). His
latest effort was published in "Topolino" 2569 (22/02/2005).
- Rodolfo Cimino, who started out as Scarpa's inker in 1959, only to become
one of the most prolific Italian scriptwriters (latest story in last week's
"Topolino", no. 2576).
Ciao,
Armando
> Could anyone tell me which Italian classical creators are still active and
publishing stories? Romano Scarpa, Giorgio Cavazzano, Massimo de Vita,
Sandro del Conte, Luciano Botaro, Luciano Gatto, Sergio Asteritti?
All of the above creators are still active. Here are their latest
appearances in the Italian weekly:
Cavazzano: "Topolino" 2577 (19/04/2005)
Gatto: "Topolino" 2573 (22/03/2005)
Asteriti: "Topolino" 2572 (15/03/2005)
Bottaro: "Topolino" 2567 (08/02/2005)
M. De Vita: "Topolino" 2560 (21/12/2004)
Del Conte: "Topolino" 2543 (24/08/2004)
Romano Scarpa doesn't draw for Disney Italia anymore, but he's producing
stories for Egmont. Last month's "Zio Paperone" printed his "Sequel Machine"
story, written by DCML-member Olaf Solstrand.
And, speaking of classical Italian masters, you shouldn't forget:
- Giulio Chierchini, who inked his first Disney story 51 years ago (!). His
latest effort was published in "Topolino" 2569 (22/02/2005).
- Rodolfo Cimino, who started out as Scarpa's inker in 1959, only to become
one of the most prolific Italian scriptwriters (latest story in last week's
"Topolino", no. 2576).
Ciao,
Armando
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics archive
Message 67 -
2005-04-12 at 14:53:57
In a message dated 4/12/2005 2:05:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
cord at wiljes.de writes:
<<How was it possible to get the comics by Carl Barks in such excellent
shape we see them in today? Comics from other publishers (like Marvel)
which were created at the same time seem to be far less lucky. Have all
Disney comics been stored as negatives? >>
Most of the Barks comics had stats made. Western was real good about keeping
stats of their comics. Many comic companies werent. Indeed about ten
years ago, Marvel destroyed stats to many of their 1950s non-superhero comics
sr
cord at wiljes.de writes:
<<How was it possible to get the comics by Carl Barks in such excellent
shape we see them in today? Comics from other publishers (like Marvel)
which were created at the same time seem to be far less lucky. Have all
Disney comics been stored as negatives? >>
Most of the Barks comics had stats made. Western was real good about keeping
stats of their comics. Many comic companies werent. Indeed about ten
years ago, Marvel destroyed stats to many of their 1950s non-superhero comics
sr
Timo Ronkainen
G. Martina's Disney Encyclopedia?
Message 68 -
2005-04-12 at 16:04:37
Armando replied to my question:
>It's an encyclopedia aimed at children, very popular in Italy at the time.
>Each volume was dedicated to a particular knowledge area; Martina wrote
>all the texts, which were illustrated by the great G.B. Carpi.
Ah, I thought it might be encyclopedia about Disney. Something like Disney
from A to Z.
Anyway, I wish I had had something like that as a kid. :-)
I remember Carpi's magnificent pictures from Finnish edition of first
Giovani Marmotte (Junior Woodchucks) handbook, published here in early
1970's. I wonder who wrote texts to that? Martina?
Timo
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>It's an encyclopedia aimed at children, very popular in Italy at the time.
>Each volume was dedicated to a particular knowledge area; Martina wrote
>all the texts, which were illustrated by the great G.B. Carpi.
Ah, I thought it might be encyclopedia about Disney. Something like Disney
from A to Z.
Anyway, I wish I had had something like that as a kid. :-)
I remember Carpi's magnificent pictures from Finnish edition of first
Giovani Marmotte (Junior Woodchucks) handbook, published here in early
1970's. I wonder who wrote texts to that? Martina?
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
041 489 77 81--------------- -
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timoro2 at yahoo.com
eFax 1 214 481 33 30 ----- -
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Message 69 -
2005-04-12 at 18:24:24
Steve Rowe wrote:
> Most of the Barks comics had stats made. Western was
> real good about keeping stats of their comics.
For which we cannot praise them enough!!!
> Many comic companies werent. Indeed about ten
> years ago, Marvel destroyed stats to many of
> their 1950s non-superhero comics
Why would they do such a thing?
To my knowledge even the stats to Marvel's bread-and-butter titles Jack
Kirby's "Fantastic Four" and Steve Ditko's "Spider-Man" were
lost/destroyed and had to be recreated from printed issues for the
Marvel Masterworks reprint series. The result is of far lesser quality
than the Barks art we have today.
Cord
> Most of the Barks comics had stats made. Western was
> real good about keeping stats of their comics.
For which we cannot praise them enough!!!
> Many comic companies werent. Indeed about ten
> years ago, Marvel destroyed stats to many of
> their 1950s non-superhero comics
Why would they do such a thing?
To my knowledge even the stats to Marvel's bread-and-butter titles Jack
Kirby's "Fantastic Four" and Steve Ditko's "Spider-Man" were
lost/destroyed and had to be recreated from printed issues for the
Marvel Masterworks reprint series. The result is of far lesser quality
than the Barks art we have today.
Cord
Lars Jensen
Carl Barks and the newspaper strip
Message 70 -
2005-04-12 at 22:43:31
Quoting myself:
> > I have no clue as to which [Donald Duck newspaper strips Carl Barks]
> > actually wrote. Apart from 39-09-11, which was spotted by Michael
> > Naiman and published in Comic Book Marketplace # 40.
>
> But how did Michael Naiman know that this strip was written by Barks?
Nobody knows the answer to this?
Lars
> > I have no clue as to which [Donald Duck newspaper strips Carl Barks]
> > actually wrote. Apart from 39-09-11, which was spotted by Michael
> > Naiman and published in Comic Book Marketplace # 40.
>
> But how did Michael Naiman know that this strip was written by Barks?
Nobody knows the answer to this?
Lars
Gerd Syllwasschy
DCML Digest, Vol 26, Issue 16
Message 71 -
2005-04-13 at 13:53:31
Lars:
>>>I have no clue as to which [Donald Duck newspaper strips Carl Barks]
>>>actually wrote. Apart from 39-09-11, which was spotted by Michael
>>>Naiman and published in Comic Book Marketplace # 40.
>>
>>But how did Michael Naiman know that this strip was written by Barks?
>
>
> Nobody knows the answer to this?
I believe this has never really been proven. What we know is:
a) Barks sold some gag ideas to the comic-strip dept. during his stay at the Disney Studio;
b) he was paid for writing the one-pager in DD FC 189.
Now the FC 189 one-pager is so similar to the 1939 strip that it is unlikely that this happened by pure chance. Barks did not usually copy other writers' work; however, he repeatedly returned to subjects written by *himself*. So the assumption that it was his original gag idea does not seem too far-fetched.
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>>>I have no clue as to which [Donald Duck newspaper strips Carl Barks]
>>>actually wrote. Apart from 39-09-11, which was spotted by Michael
>>>Naiman and published in Comic Book Marketplace # 40.
>>
>>But how did Michael Naiman know that this strip was written by Barks?
>
>
> Nobody knows the answer to this?
I believe this has never really been proven. What we know is:
a) Barks sold some gag ideas to the comic-strip dept. during his stay at the Disney Studio;
b) he was paid for writing the one-pager in DD FC 189.
Now the FC 189 one-pager is so similar to the 1939 strip that it is unlikely that this happened by pure chance. Barks did not usually copy other writers' work; however, he repeatedly returned to subjects written by *himself*. So the assumption that it was his original gag idea does not seem too far-fetched.
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Message 72 -
2005-04-13 at 14:42:43
In a message dated 4/12/2005 11:54:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
cord.wiljes at animagic.com writes:
>> Many comic companies werent. Indeed about ten
>> years ago, Marvel destroyed stats to many of
>> their 1950s non-superhero comics
>Why would they do such a thing?
they didnt say, but the usual reasons are
lack of space and tax reasons
possible that either the stats count as inventory and thus taxed (probably
not)
or they get to write it off their taxes as a bad investments - if the stats
are destroyed.
and of course storage space cost money
all the above idle speculation.
Western while good, didnt keep stats for everything - LITTLE LULU fans have
been upset by the recent reprint book that has reinked stories.
sr
cord.wiljes at animagic.com writes:
>> Many comic companies werent. Indeed about ten
>> years ago, Marvel destroyed stats to many of
>> their 1950s non-superhero comics
>Why would they do such a thing?
they didnt say, but the usual reasons are
lack of space and tax reasons
possible that either the stats count as inventory and thus taxed (probably
not)
or they get to write it off their taxes as a bad investments - if the stats
are destroyed.
and of course storage space cost money
all the above idle speculation.
Western while good, didnt keep stats for everything - LITTLE LULU fans have
been upset by the recent reprint book that has reinked stories.
sr
David Gerstein
DCML Digest, Vol 26, Issue 16
Message 73 -
2005-04-13 at 14:56:31
Hey Lars,
>>> I have no clue as to which [Donald Duck newspaper strips Carl Barks]
>>> actually wrote. Apart from 39-09-11, which was spotted by Michael
>>> Naiman and published in Comic Book Marketplace # 40.
>>
>> But how did Michael Naiman know that this strip was written by Barks?
>
> Nobody knows the answer to this?
Er... sorry not to have chimed in earlier.
As far as I know, Michael asked Barks himself.
Since that time, I've found at least one other DD daily strip from the
same time period that unmistakably prefigures a later Barks one-page
gag. Donald has the "Phooie Six" fancy car demonstrated for him by a
showman at a used car lot. The car seems to pass muster with Donald:
"Okay, I'll take a chance on the Phooie Six," and we think he's going
to buy it. But in fact, he's just buying one ticket in a lottery with a
chance to win it.
I THINK the strip is YD 40-07-30; I don't have it here to reference.
But the later Barks comic book version, alike almost to the dialogue,
is W OS 386-04. There the "Phooie Six" has become the "Soupline Eight."
Of course, since Barks has now passed away, I guess we can't REALLY
tell for sure whether Barks simply borrowed a Bob Karp gag for W OS
386-04, or contributed the original version of the gag to the YD strip.
David
>>> I have no clue as to which [Donald Duck newspaper strips Carl Barks]
>>> actually wrote. Apart from 39-09-11, which was spotted by Michael
>>> Naiman and published in Comic Book Marketplace # 40.
>>
>> But how did Michael Naiman know that this strip was written by Barks?
>
> Nobody knows the answer to this?
Er... sorry not to have chimed in earlier.
As far as I know, Michael asked Barks himself.
Since that time, I've found at least one other DD daily strip from the
same time period that unmistakably prefigures a later Barks one-page
gag. Donald has the "Phooie Six" fancy car demonstrated for him by a
showman at a used car lot. The car seems to pass muster with Donald:
"Okay, I'll take a chance on the Phooie Six," and we think he's going
to buy it. But in fact, he's just buying one ticket in a lottery with a
chance to win it.
I THINK the strip is YD 40-07-30; I don't have it here to reference.
But the later Barks comic book version, alike almost to the dialogue,
is W OS 386-04. There the "Phooie Six" has become the "Soupline Eight."
Of course, since Barks has now passed away, I guess we can't REALLY
tell for sure whether Barks simply borrowed a Bob Karp gag for W OS
386-04, or contributed the original version of the gag to the YD strip.
David
Santiago García
Italian creators
Message 74 -
2005-04-14 at 14:16:51
Botto Armando:
Thanks a lot for your response. And you were right: I
forgot Chierchini and Cimino.
Santiago.
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Thanks a lot for your response. And you were right: I
forgot Chierchini and Cimino.
Santiago.
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Little Lulu
Message 75 -
2005-04-15 at 00:48:59
sr wrote:
> Western while good, didnt keep stats for everything - LITTLE
> LULU fans have been upset by the recent reprint book that
> has reinked stories.
This current inexepensive edition was my first contact with John
Stanley's "Little Lulu". And, what can I say, I immediately fell in
love. Anybody who likes Barks' Ten Pagers in WDS&S or Charles Schultz'
"Peanuts" should check out Little Lulu.
You say they were reinked? Not knowing the original I did not notice any
loss in quality. Do you know on what basis the 6 Sets printet by Another
Rainbow in the same design as the original b/w Barks Library were done?
Did AR have access to stats?
Cord
> Western while good, didnt keep stats for everything - LITTLE
> LULU fans have been upset by the recent reprint book that
> has reinked stories.
This current inexepensive edition was my first contact with John
Stanley's "Little Lulu". And, what can I say, I immediately fell in
love. Anybody who likes Barks' Ten Pagers in WDS&S or Charles Schultz'
"Peanuts" should check out Little Lulu.
You say they were reinked? Not knowing the original I did not notice any
loss in quality. Do you know on what basis the 6 Sets printet by Another
Rainbow in the same design as the original b/w Barks Library were done?
Did AR have access to stats?
Cord