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ANTHONY to LIST, 02-04-2005:

> Can someone please transcribe that "Prisoner of White Agony Creek"
> Rosa interview and post it on this list in English for us poor
> Americans? Thanks so much! It would be so appreciated!

The author of the McDuck-news, Naadje van de Kous, has added a second
article. It contains news about a press report which says that the Dutch
weekly Donald Duck Weekblad will remain in its current form.

Rough translation of the rest of this article: After some shocked reactions
to the news of last Friday, the editor has changed thoughts and decided to
wait at least another year with the publishing of only just Rosa-stories in
the weekly. Number 2005-15 has been changed just on time, and is expected to
contain a fifteen-page story by Jan Kruse and Bas Heymans.
Special reporter Naadje van de Kous will temporarily leave McDuck.nl, and
hopes to return in about a day or 364.

First Dutch article:
Weekblad voortaan in teken Rosa
1-4-2005, door Naadje van de Kous
About Dutch weekly; Rosa "White Agony Creek"-interview; rumours about Dutch
promotional tour by Rosa; plans for Rosa-merchandising (posters, cuddly toys,
tea-cups, signed litho's), and Rosa redrawing old-fashioned stories for Dutch
Barks-album series.
http://actueel.mcduck.nl/nieuws/53
http://actueel.mcduck.nl/plaatjes/dr-cover-groot.jpg

Second Dutch article:
Weekblad voorlopig in oude vorm
2-4-2005, door Naadje van de Kous
About canceling the plans with the weekly.
http://actueel.mcduck.nl/nieuws/54

--- Dani?l

"Hey! You're in TAR AND FEATHERS! That's not your USUAL costume, is it?"
(Which Barks story?) :-)

To All DCMLers:

It apparently escaped some of us (mostly those who don't read Dutch) that
the advertising of the Dutch Donald Duck Weekly going all-Rosa was an April
Fool's joke. It would have been funny if it hadn't been immediately
followed by D van E in yet another of his multiple Rosa-bashing
personalities, this time pretending his name is 'Nils.'

Kai Saarto was wise enough to spot him, and Steven Rowe immediately became
suspicious. Your instincts serve you well, Steven.

As usual, I recommend no further response to the malicious postings by TOD
(The Other Daniel), no matter who is claiming to be at the moment.

Don't feed the troll.

Dan Shane (The First Daniel on DCML)

DAN SHANE, 03-04-2005:

> As usual, I recommend no further response to the malicious postings by TOD
> (The Other Daniel), no matter who is claiming to be at the moment.

You are guilty of blaming an innocent person, Dan Shane.
The same for Kai Saarto and Steven Rowe.

Ask Don Rosa for an explanation. Don Rosa is the one who sent out those
controversial emails to someone unknown. That is Don Rosa's own mistake.

Keep me out of this.

--- Dani?l

In a message dated 4/3/2005 3:39:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dve at kabelfoon.nl writes:
>You are guilty of blaming an innocent person, Dan Shane.
>The same for Kai Saarto and Steven Rowe.

you are guilty for blaiming an innocent person, Dani?l ( who doesnt post his
last name!)

because I blamed nobody for anything --
as anybody who read my email could plainly and clearly see....

but apparently i should have blaimed someone indeed!

so - YES - keep me out of your email!

steven rowe

STEVEN ROWE to me, 03-04-2005:

> Dani?l ( who doesnt post his last name!)

Maybe you have a software problem?
My last name is part of *all* my emails, ever since I subscribed.

Look at the digests, or visit:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2005-April/028838.html

--- Dani?l

Stefan Persson wrote:
> Please stop your spamming. Your spam is of no interest for me to read
> and only fills up my inbox.

Couldn't agree more! All of you, please stop all this off-topic
nonsense. This list used to be about Disney comics. I hope it will be
that way again.

Thomas

Dan Shane wrote:

>>As usual, I recommend no further response to the malicious postings by TOD
>>(The Other Daniel), no matter who is claiming to be at the moment.
>>
This breed seems to be capable of feeding himself, unfortunately. If no
one replies to this troll, he would just make up new personas and have a
conversation between them. Any person with some integrity would have
seen by now that his presence is only annoying every single other member
and have unsubscribed. Who has ever taken his side except for those
first time mailers, who are themselves obvious trolls or spawns of this
one troll to be more exact?

Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:

>
>You are guilty of blaming an innocent person, Dan Shane.
>The same for Kai Saarto and Steven Rowe.
>
>
This Nils guy has never posted on this list before and suddenly he jumps
in and starts acting exactly like this troll, spamming the list with
that same message? Boy, someone sure knows how to underestimate every
single person on this list.

>Ask Don Rosa for an explanation. Don Rosa is the one who sent out those
>controversial emails to someone unknown. That is Don Rosa's own mistake.
>
>Keep me out of this.
>
>
And who was it that started spamming this list with it in first place?
Don't you just hate people who just never take responsibility of their
own actions?

Well tell me then O great dutch moralist in what way did he offend the Dutch
editor other then say
that they where too cheap to send him a complimentary
copy when they publish his stories like all the other publishers do.
By the way it's freedom of speech not liberty and who is trying to
manipulate it ?
No one has been banned from this list and anyone can say whatever they want!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:36 AM
Subject: Don Rosa, the Dutch editor and The Netherlands

> KAI SAARTO to me, 04-04-2005:
>
> > This Nils guy has never posted on this list before and suddenly he
> > jumps in and starts acting exactly like this troll, spamming the
> > list with that same message? Boy, someone sure knows how to
> > underestimate every single person on this list.
>
> Stop demonizing me, Kai Saarto. Immediately. A lot of Dutch people can get
very
> angry when people try to manipulate the liberty of speech, especially
after the
> recent deaths of people like Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh.
>
> I've let you and Dan Shane do your writing, because I wanted to know what
you
> had to say. And apparently, you have no idea how *upset* and *angry*
several
> Dutch people are, for being generalized, ridiculized and offended in an
email
> by a certain Disney artist named Don Rosa.
>
> You've told us that Rosa set up a trap to catch a reader of his work. But
then,
> why does Rosa write such an offending email about Holland in the first
place?
> Why does Rosa once again attack the Dutch editor of his comics, using
strong
> wording? Do you really think that people will believe your excuse that Don
Rosa
> was just playing around and setting things up? Where is the catch then?
>
> Rosa has written some controversial stuff to an unknown person. Emails in
which
> he misuses a reader's identity - in a way that makes this individual very
easy to
> find. That's what happened. So, your theory of a Disney Duck artist
setting up
> some evil trap to catch a poor Duck kid, only makes this situation worser.
Don't
> you see that?
>
> You've drawn a picture of a sick Disney artist who, despite all the
praising and
> warm attention, still has plenty of time to play dirty tricks against
critical
> readers. Rosa should have replied about this matter himself. That might
have
> avoided a lot of confusion. Rosa should take responsibility for this. Not
you.
>
> DON ROSA wrote:
> "But for 15 years it has been *strictly* a few Dutch fans who are so
vocally
> negative about it in the most vicious manner. It begins to seem to
indicate
> that the Dutch have a national trait of being the nastiest and pettiest
> people in the world. But why would that be? Do you find the Dutch to be
this
> nasty and vindictive in everything they say or write? It's very sad!
>
> Keno Don Rosa, why did you write stuff like this? Why did you misuse my
name?
> That email about Holland stands completely on his own. And you know it.
>
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2005-April/028830.html
>
> --- Dani?l
>
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