>
>
>Sorry if you took my comment personally. I don't say that the story writers are idiots or that they are untalented or
>whatever. I'm just saying that the *plots* of those Egmont stories (especially if written by Pat & Carol McGreal) often
>seem to be idiotic and - in comparison to majority of the Italian stories - quite strange.
>Especially when it comes to Mickey. I don't remember exactly which story it was or who the author was, but some time ago
>in a story (probably drawn by Joaquin or Xavi) Mickey jumps out of a flying plane and in the next panel you see him
>falling towards the ground with a very, very idiotic grin and screaming "Hurray! Finally I'm save!".
>As a fan of good Mickey stories you have to say "What the heck?" when you read something like this.
>Or another example. In a story, someone sends Mickey an elephant. So, what to do with it? No doubt that the "normal"
>Mickey would say "How can I get rid of it?". But no way - Mickey is excited and screams joyfully "Oh, that's soooo cool!
>I'm gonna take an elephantback-ride through the city and play a trick on Goofy with my new friend!".
>
>Now, see what I mean with idiotic plots?
>
So, we Egmont Mickey writers aren't necessarily idiots or untalented, we
just do idiotic things which are characteristic of untalented people.
Excuuuuuse me!
(By way, in my not-very-humble opinion, many Italian stories, including
some by the extremely talented and non-idiotic Romano Scarpa, don't ring
true to the characters. That's not the same as being idiotic or the
product of untalented people; it's just that their perceptions of the
characters seem wrong to at least one person who has been reading
American Disney comics for more than half a century.)
Quack, Don
Author
Topic: 200504
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Donald D. Markstein
DCML Digest, Vol 26, Issue 29
Message 136 -
2005-04-25 at 20:28:11
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Romano Scarpa
Message 137 -
2005-04-26 at 01:26:37
Again an old master of the smile has left us with a tear in our eyes.
What to say? Perhaps that one master rose from anonymity to household word
in his late years, and another - still among us - has become a celebrity
everywhere but in his own country. Scarpa however was loved by Disney
readers in his own country for decades, but only in recent years gained
recognition by fandom outside Italy.
Oddly enough it would take a relatively small exposure in American comics
towards the end of the Gladstone I era, before European readers would
re-discover the treasures they had overlooked in their pocket publications,
stepchildren of Disney comics to the mostly American-oriented fans.
In our sadness, saying goodbye to the Venetian maestro, we should also
remember to smile that we still have so many of his fine stories to read,
perhaps for the first time, as Gemstone digs into a treasure trove of
stories to make new readers amused, amazed, and appreciative of the fine art
of comic story telling.
Thank you, signor Scarpa. See you in the funny papers.
-- Ole
What to say? Perhaps that one master rose from anonymity to household word
in his late years, and another - still among us - has become a celebrity
everywhere but in his own country. Scarpa however was loved by Disney
readers in his own country for decades, but only in recent years gained
recognition by fandom outside Italy.
Oddly enough it would take a relatively small exposure in American comics
towards the end of the Gladstone I era, before European readers would
re-discover the treasures they had overlooked in their pocket publications,
stepchildren of Disney comics to the mostly American-oriented fans.
In our sadness, saying goodbye to the Venetian maestro, we should also
remember to smile that we still have so many of his fine stories to read,
perhaps for the first time, as Gemstone digs into a treasure trove of
stories to make new readers amused, amazed, and appreciative of the fine art
of comic story telling.
Thank you, signor Scarpa. See you in the funny papers.
-- Ole
Lars Jensen
Numerous questions and comments about Gemstone
Message 138 -
2005-04-26 at 02:08:50
Hi Doc.
Nice to hear from you. A couple of questions, now you're here:
1. I've heard rumors you have a look-alike running around in an old
Scarpa story. Is this true?
2. I see you spell Ferioli's first name "Cèsar". In Inducks his name is
spelled "César". (Note the different accent.) Which spelling is correct?
3. A reliable source (Clarabelle Cow) tells me you've been having
romantic dinners with Trudy while Pete is in jail. Can you confirm this?
Lars
Nice to hear from you. A couple of questions, now you're here:
1. I've heard rumors you have a look-alike running around in an old
Scarpa story. Is this true?
2. I see you spell Ferioli's first name "Cèsar". In Inducks his name is
spelled "César". (Note the different accent.) Which spelling is correct?
3. A reliable source (Clarabelle Cow) tells me you've been having
romantic dinners with Trudy while Pete is in jail. Can you confirm this?
Lars
Lars Jensen
Stats
Message 139 -
2005-04-26 at 02:19:44
Timo Ronkainen wrote:
>> Did Barks write the color codes to his comics himself?
>
> As far as I know, no he didn't.
I think I've read that Barks at one point did add color notes to his
stories where it was vital (such as the Philosopher's Stone story where
Scrooge's eyes at one point turn yellow). When Barks realized the
colorists ignored his notes, he stopped adding them.
Don't ask me for a source on that one, though.
Lars
>> Did Barks write the color codes to his comics himself?
>
> As far as I know, no he didn't.
I think I've read that Barks at one point did add color notes to his
stories where it was vital (such as the Philosopher's Stone story where
Scrooge's eyes at one point turn yellow). When Barks realized the
colorists ignored his notes, he stopped adding them.
Don't ask me for a source on that one, though.
Lars
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Egmont's image
Message 140 -
2005-04-26 at 13:08:51
LARS JENSEN to JANO ROHLEDER, 21-04-2005:
> So to sum up: Gemstone are cheapskates, and I and most other Egmont
> creators who work on the pocketbook stories are hacks, non-talents
> and/or idiots. And you give Bancells an honorary mention.
DONALD MARKSTEIN to JANO ROHLEDER, 25-04-2005:
> So, we Egmont Mickey writers aren't necessarily idiots or untalented, we
> just do idiotic things which are characteristic of untalented people.
There are quite a lot of complaints about Egmont stories, also here in The
Netherlands. There are many exceptions, but still Egmont has this overall
image. Their art is unspired. Their stories are weak. Their colors are ugly.
How come?
Remarkably, Egmont stories vary from Vicar to Daniel Branca to Daan Jippes.
So, how come that Egmont still has the image of a mass producer of easy
faceless stories, rolling from an assembly line?
And why do all the stories get that horrible chemical coloring? Even the
Barks/Jippes-stories look as if they taking place on a strange faraway
planet.
Why does Egmont have a bad reputation for many readers?
--- Dani?l
"All this GOOD LUCK comes from having a MASCOT!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
> So to sum up: Gemstone are cheapskates, and I and most other Egmont
> creators who work on the pocketbook stories are hacks, non-talents
> and/or idiots. And you give Bancells an honorary mention.
DONALD MARKSTEIN to JANO ROHLEDER, 25-04-2005:
> So, we Egmont Mickey writers aren't necessarily idiots or untalented, we
> just do idiotic things which are characteristic of untalented people.
There are quite a lot of complaints about Egmont stories, also here in The
Netherlands. There are many exceptions, but still Egmont has this overall
image. Their art is unspired. Their stories are weak. Their colors are ugly.
How come?
Remarkably, Egmont stories vary from Vicar to Daniel Branca to Daan Jippes.
So, how come that Egmont still has the image of a mass producer of easy
faceless stories, rolling from an assembly line?
And why do all the stories get that horrible chemical coloring? Even the
Barks/Jippes-stories look as if they taking place on a strange faraway
planet.
Why does Egmont have a bad reputation for many readers?
--- Dani?l
"All this GOOD LUCK comes from having a MASCOT!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
Miha
Baloons part 2
Message 141 -
2005-04-26 at 15:35:31
Howdy,
I must apologise because last time I send you the
incomplete letter. I don't know how it happened, but
my letter consisted only of the second part including
some picture attachements and somehow omited the
introduction and the description of the files. The
subject was Baloons and it was the answer to the
question from a discussion from this list that went on
not so long ago. Although this is a little bit late on
a subject I hope you won't mind. The question someone
put was: did editiors ocasionally redraw baloons.
Yes they did, and not only that, I found out that in
some cases there has been severe changes to the
editing. As you can see in the above example from
Politikin Zabavnik (Yugoslavia, 1952) the baloons in
Mickey Mouse comic have been edited in the following
ways:
-redrawn completely
-sometimes some baloons deleted
-sometimes whole captions added
All this along with the very loose translation, a lot
of skipped panels, etc. makes The land of long ago
from Politikin Zabavnik into a story with totaly
different flow. I'd say that it is a new comic
alltogether.
Exapmle:
http://img53.echo.cx/img53/7145/insert1pz5sl.jpg
http://img53.echo.cx/img53/3662/insert1mm7ay.jpg
ORIGINAL:
(see the picture)
TRANSLATION:
Mickey: "Don't listen to him, professor, he's always
making remarks like this but in the end he always goes
with me."
Professor: "Good, kids. And now let me work."
Professor: "I have to, according to this plan of
"Dynosaurus Express", put into it the machinery from
the plane you flew here with."
Mickey: "Do you need any help?"
that is all for now from me, have a good time
and happy hollidays
P.S.
rest your eyes, take a look at some fan art
http://artpad.art.com/?ife3gticj60
http://artpad.art.com/?ife4wzu2oe0
http://artpad.art.com/?ifed3k1c537c
http://artpad.art.com/?ifef57imfnc
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I must apologise because last time I send you the
incomplete letter. I don't know how it happened, but
my letter consisted only of the second part including
some picture attachements and somehow omited the
introduction and the description of the files. The
subject was Baloons and it was the answer to the
question from a discussion from this list that went on
not so long ago. Although this is a little bit late on
a subject I hope you won't mind. The question someone
put was: did editiors ocasionally redraw baloons.
Yes they did, and not only that, I found out that in
some cases there has been severe changes to the
editing. As you can see in the above example from
Politikin Zabavnik (Yugoslavia, 1952) the baloons in
Mickey Mouse comic have been edited in the following
ways:
-redrawn completely
-sometimes some baloons deleted
-sometimes whole captions added
All this along with the very loose translation, a lot
of skipped panels, etc. makes The land of long ago
from Politikin Zabavnik into a story with totaly
different flow. I'd say that it is a new comic
alltogether.
Exapmle:
http://img53.echo.cx/img53/7145/insert1pz5sl.jpg
http://img53.echo.cx/img53/3662/insert1mm7ay.jpg
ORIGINAL:
(see the picture)
TRANSLATION:
Mickey: "Don't listen to him, professor, he's always
making remarks like this but in the end he always goes
with me."
Professor: "Good, kids. And now let me work."
Professor: "I have to, according to this plan of
"Dynosaurus Express", put into it the machinery from
the plane you flew here with."
Mickey: "Do you need any help?"
that is all for now from me, have a good time
and happy hollidays
P.S.
rest your eyes, take a look at some fan art
http://artpad.art.com/?ife3gticj60
http://artpad.art.com/?ife4wzu2oe0
http://artpad.art.com/?ifed3k1c537c
http://artpad.art.com/?ifef57imfnc
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Daniel J Neyer
R.I.P. Romano Scarpa
Message 142 -
2005-04-26 at 16:17:21
This is sad news indeed. I just got through reading the Gemstone copy of
Scarpa and David Gerstein's "History Re-Petes Itself" and was thinking
how remarkable it was that Scarpa was still drawing so well, even though
he was well past the American retirement age. He will be missed. I
certainly hope to see some of his great legacy of stories (including
Mickey Mouse and the Chirikawa Necklace) printed in this country soon.
Scarpa and David Gerstein's "History Re-Petes Itself" and was thinking
how remarkable it was that Scarpa was still drawing so well, even though
he was well past the American retirement age. He will be missed. I
certainly hope to see some of his great legacy of stories (including
Mickey Mouse and the Chirikawa Necklace) printed in this country soon.
Stefan Persson
Numerous questions and comments about Gemstone
Message 143 -
2005-04-26 at 17:01:22
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Lars Jensen wrote:
> 2. I see you spell Ferioli's first name "C?ar". In Inducks his name is
> spelled "C?ar". (Note the different accent.) Which spelling is correct?
As far as I know, the correct spelling is "C?sar". So both variants
with Chinese characters in the middle of the name are wrong.
Stefan
Hash: SHA1
Lars Jensen wrote:
> 2. I see you spell Ferioli's first name "C?ar". In Inducks his name is
> spelled "C?ar". (Note the different accent.) Which spelling is correct?
As far as I know, the correct spelling is "C?sar". So both variants
with Chinese characters in the middle of the name are wrong.
Stefan
Paolo Castagno
Romano Scarpa
Message 144 -
2005-04-26 at 18:17:22
Just my thought about the sad news regarding Romano Scarpa:
It was the second half of the '70ties, and I was sitting on the
back seat of my mothers' Fiat 500, it was a rainy Febraury
evening and we were coming back from a place I do not remember.
The wet streets were reflecting the lights of Rome, a city that
then, when I was nine years old, I still didn't know well.
I was holding a comic, issued just few days before, and that I
was carrying with me in order to read it (and read it again and
again, as it was usual, then). Its cover was yellow, with an
image of Donald involved in reading a book, a thrilling one. It
was the "famous" issue number 13 from the "I Classici Disney"
collection, a pocket book which was making me feel more important
and "adult" than I was then, maybe because of its look very
similar to the one of the "real" mistery books issued by
Mondadori. Its reading was surely interesting: its first story
was "Paperino e il misterioso Mister Moster", by Giovan Battista
Carpi, a thrilling one, and also an hard to understand for a
young reader.
Jusst after this one, there was a story which was looking
"different" from the others, surely a better one, which I simply
classified as a *beautiful* one, which deserved to be read many
times, also from my parents, to share with them this fantastic
world, way too big and interesting to be confined just to
personal interests.
The story was about Donald trying to be a journalist, about his
uncle Gedeone de Paperoni, a mysterious cook from Ronchisia and a
weird dish based on a shrimp sauce.
It soon became one of my favourites.
And there is more: among my favourites there were, and more will
be added to them, many others, all read on "I Classici" issues:
the one about an indian necklace, the one about a completly empty
place filled just by the fantasy of a professor who enalrges two
atoms, the one with Kali goddess , the one where uncle Scrooge
was risking his life on a flying galleon; yet another one where
the Phantom Blos was appearing and disappearing like a ghost; and
one with a sort of prehistoric man talking to computers... the
listing is endless, all the stories are great, filled with a
strength which is hard to find in other stories.
Obviously I didn't know, nor could imagine, that all these
stories were the work of a single person (to be honest, when I
was so young I didn't care how comics were made). It was after
some years (maybe ten?) when I found out the name of the author:
Romano Scarpa.
Romano Scarpa was the author who, more than nayone else, IMHO,
concourred in Italy to the birth of a real school, even better:
to a tradition of Disney comics: without his work I don't think
that Mondadori issues coudl reach the success they had, bringing
Topolino to be the most successful comic book in Italian history.
Now, the news of his death has left me stunned, sad and
depressed: I'm thinking about all his stories I read, the book
about his life and works, all the articles I read about his
stories, when I had the luck of meeting him during an Italian
exhibition, when I had his autograph... but mainly I'm looking,
with wet eyes, his Christmas card from 2003, that reached me as a
fantastic surprise and now will always remember me of Romano
Scarpa, a man who all of us owe a lot: dreams are priceless, and
Romano gave us a lot of unforgettable dreams, that will always be
in our hearts, in his fan hearts, who will contribute to maintain
alive his work, telling his stories to the ones who'll be there
listening or suggesting to reading the ones who don't know them
yet.
I'd like to close this posting noticing how this month on Zio
Paperone there is one of his old stories, still funny,
interesting and charming... it is about Donald trying to be a
journalist, about his uncle Gedeone de Paperoni, a mysterious
cook from Ronchisia and a weird dish based on a shrimp sauce...
dreams won't die, never.
Ciao Romano, and thanks!
- Paolo
http://www.papersera.net mailto:paolo at papersera.net
p.s.: sorry for the mistakes I made in my not-so-good English!
p.p.s.: Many of you already wrote something, but I think many
more need to be "encouraged" again to write their feelings on
this page, which will be sent to Scarpa's wife:
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/commenti.asp
It was the second half of the '70ties, and I was sitting on the
back seat of my mothers' Fiat 500, it was a rainy Febraury
evening and we were coming back from a place I do not remember.
The wet streets were reflecting the lights of Rome, a city that
then, when I was nine years old, I still didn't know well.
I was holding a comic, issued just few days before, and that I
was carrying with me in order to read it (and read it again and
again, as it was usual, then). Its cover was yellow, with an
image of Donald involved in reading a book, a thrilling one. It
was the "famous" issue number 13 from the "I Classici Disney"
collection, a pocket book which was making me feel more important
and "adult" than I was then, maybe because of its look very
similar to the one of the "real" mistery books issued by
Mondadori. Its reading was surely interesting: its first story
was "Paperino e il misterioso Mister Moster", by Giovan Battista
Carpi, a thrilling one, and also an hard to understand for a
young reader.
Jusst after this one, there was a story which was looking
"different" from the others, surely a better one, which I simply
classified as a *beautiful* one, which deserved to be read many
times, also from my parents, to share with them this fantastic
world, way too big and interesting to be confined just to
personal interests.
The story was about Donald trying to be a journalist, about his
uncle Gedeone de Paperoni, a mysterious cook from Ronchisia and a
weird dish based on a shrimp sauce.
It soon became one of my favourites.
And there is more: among my favourites there were, and more will
be added to them, many others, all read on "I Classici" issues:
the one about an indian necklace, the one about a completly empty
place filled just by the fantasy of a professor who enalrges two
atoms, the one with Kali goddess , the one where uncle Scrooge
was risking his life on a flying galleon; yet another one where
the Phantom Blos was appearing and disappearing like a ghost; and
one with a sort of prehistoric man talking to computers... the
listing is endless, all the stories are great, filled with a
strength which is hard to find in other stories.
Obviously I didn't know, nor could imagine, that all these
stories were the work of a single person (to be honest, when I
was so young I didn't care how comics were made). It was after
some years (maybe ten?) when I found out the name of the author:
Romano Scarpa.
Romano Scarpa was the author who, more than nayone else, IMHO,
concourred in Italy to the birth of a real school, even better:
to a tradition of Disney comics: without his work I don't think
that Mondadori issues coudl reach the success they had, bringing
Topolino to be the most successful comic book in Italian history.
Now, the news of his death has left me stunned, sad and
depressed: I'm thinking about all his stories I read, the book
about his life and works, all the articles I read about his
stories, when I had the luck of meeting him during an Italian
exhibition, when I had his autograph... but mainly I'm looking,
with wet eyes, his Christmas card from 2003, that reached me as a
fantastic surprise and now will always remember me of Romano
Scarpa, a man who all of us owe a lot: dreams are priceless, and
Romano gave us a lot of unforgettable dreams, that will always be
in our hearts, in his fan hearts, who will contribute to maintain
alive his work, telling his stories to the ones who'll be there
listening or suggesting to reading the ones who don't know them
yet.
I'd like to close this posting noticing how this month on Zio
Paperone there is one of his old stories, still funny,
interesting and charming... it is about Donald trying to be a
journalist, about his uncle Gedeone de Paperoni, a mysterious
cook from Ronchisia and a weird dish based on a shrimp sauce...
dreams won't die, never.
Ciao Romano, and thanks!
- Paolo
http://www.papersera.net mailto:paolo at papersera.net
p.s.: sorry for the mistakes I made in my not-so-good English!
p.p.s.: Many of you already wrote something, but I think many
more need to be "encouraged" again to write their feelings on
this page, which will be sent to Scarpa's wife:
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/commenti.asp
Lars Jensen
TV Alert: Ping Pong Balls on "Mythbusters"
Message 145 -
2005-04-26 at 19:21:36
M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:
> For those of you who get the Discovery Channel, be advised that
> "Mythbusters" will attempt to raise a ship using ping-pong balls.
The Danish version of the Discovery Channel will apparently show this
episode tonight at 20.00.
Lars
> For those of you who get the Discovery Channel, be advised that
> "Mythbusters" will attempt to raise a ship using ping-pong balls.
The Danish version of the Discovery Channel will apparently show this
episode tonight at 20.00.
Lars
UNDBKB
FCBD
Message 146 -
2005-04-26 at 23:58:23
I received the FCBD Uncle Scrooges, for those of you intereseted.
Send me an email and I will send you the comics at my cost.
European buyers should get together.
I can ship economy or Global Priority, Your choice.
Barry
..............................................................................
.................................
for Armando, who wrote about FCBD Uncle Scrooge comics, the return email
bounced.
Here is what I wrote:
$6 for SLOW mail
$11.50 for Global Priority. for the quantity requested.
You can pay me Anytime, I have the comics now.
Paypal This email.
Barry
Send me an email and I will send you the comics at my cost.
European buyers should get together.
I can ship economy or Global Priority, Your choice.
Barry
..............................................................................
.................................
for Armando, who wrote about FCBD Uncle Scrooge comics, the return email
bounced.
Here is what I wrote:
$6 for SLOW mail
$11.50 for Global Priority. for the quantity requested.
You can pay me Anytime, I have the comics now.
Paypal This email.
Barry
SRoweCanoe
DCML Digest, Vol 26, Issue 27 (pocket books, Duke)
Message 147 -
2005-04-27 at 03:35:59
In a message dated 4/24/2005 1:12:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kimba1962 at comcast.net writes:
>Re Santiago's comments: Michigan State University Library is also well known
for
>its immense pop-culture collection. I had never heard of the Duke
collection,
>however.
It;s a fairly new donation. the Murray brothers bought virtually (if not
actually) every comic book from the late 1950s to the 1990s or so. I had many
visits with them back in the 1970s - did duke u get their original Frazetta
"johny comet" strip too? Did they have a Barks original too?
steven rowe
kimba1962 at comcast.net writes:
>Re Santiago's comments: Michigan State University Library is also well known
for
>its immense pop-culture collection. I had never heard of the Duke
collection,
>however.
It;s a fairly new donation. the Murray brothers bought virtually (if not
actually) every comic book from the late 1950s to the 1990s or so. I had many
visits with them back in the 1970s - did duke u get their original Frazetta
"johny comet" strip too? Did they have a Barks original too?
steven rowe
Cesar Ferioli Pelaez
Numerous questions and comments about Gemstone (Lars Jensen)
Message 148 -
2005-04-27 at 12:29:35
Hi Lars!
Here you have the answers to your questions...
>1. I've heard rumors you have a look-alike running around in an old
>Scarpa story. Is this true?
Absolutely not. Unfortunately I've never met Romano Scarpa, although I was a
big fan of him. I would have liked meet him sometime, of course, in the same
way I woud have liked meeting Carl Barks or Floyd Gottfredson or Carpi...
2. I see you spell Ferioli's first name "C?sar". In Inducks his name is
spelled "C?sar". (Note the different accent.) Which spelling is correct?
Both. C?sar is Spanish (pronouncing the "C" as a "TZ"). C?sar is Catalan
("C" as a "Z"). It doesn't matter, you also can use the Italian "Cesare" or
the Latin "Caesar" :-)
3. A reliable source (Clarabelle Cow) tells me you've been having
romantic dinners with Trudy while Pete is in jail. Can you confirm this?
:-))))) A gentleman can't speak about these things.
Lars
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Here you have the answers to your questions...
>1. I've heard rumors you have a look-alike running around in an old
>Scarpa story. Is this true?
Absolutely not. Unfortunately I've never met Romano Scarpa, although I was a
big fan of him. I would have liked meet him sometime, of course, in the same
way I woud have liked meeting Carl Barks or Floyd Gottfredson or Carpi...
2. I see you spell Ferioli's first name "C?sar". In Inducks his name is
spelled "C?sar". (Note the different accent.) Which spelling is correct?
Both. C?sar is Spanish (pronouncing the "C" as a "TZ"). C?sar is Catalan
("C" as a "Z"). It doesn't matter, you also can use the Italian "Cesare" or
the Latin "Caesar" :-)
3. A reliable source (Clarabelle Cow) tells me you've been having
romantic dinners with Trudy while Pete is in jail. Can you confirm this?
:-))))) A gentleman can't speak about these things.
Lars
_________________________________________________________________
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H.W.Fluks
Numerous questions and comments about Gemstone
Message 149 -
2005-04-28 at 12:12:20
Lars Jensen wrote:
> What kind of person would post a
> blanket statement like the one quoted above on a message board where
> several of said creators and publishers are members? Do you also phone
> up TV writers and tell them they suck if you don't like their work?
> Somehow I doubt it.
This is not a good comparison. The DCML is not like a "phone" where you
contact creators personally. It's a public mailing list, so more like a
"TV". The fact that some of the people who read a critique were the ones
criticised, is not relevant.
Of course, general rules of politeness apply, like everywhere else.
> Just telling creators their work sucks won't lead to better stories.
Getting better stories is not the main goal of DCML.
Personally, I hate to look at Bancells' artwork.
But that sentence is not directed at Bancells personally, nor do I
expect that he will change his artwork because of that.
--Harry.
> What kind of person would post a
> blanket statement like the one quoted above on a message board where
> several of said creators and publishers are members? Do you also phone
> up TV writers and tell them they suck if you don't like their work?
> Somehow I doubt it.
This is not a good comparison. The DCML is not like a "phone" where you
contact creators personally. It's a public mailing list, so more like a
"TV". The fact that some of the people who read a critique were the ones
criticised, is not relevant.
Of course, general rules of politeness apply, like everywhere else.
> Just telling creators their work sucks won't lead to better stories.
Getting better stories is not the main goal of DCML.
Personally, I hate to look at Bancells' artwork.
But that sentence is not directed at Bancells personally, nor do I
expect that he will change his artwork because of that.
--Harry.