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Wow, I never knew the Gladstone/Gemstone/Boom logo was copied from the first three Dell issues. How I wish I had copies of those! I agree with "that guy" WB. We've gotten way off topic here. The Walt Disney's Comics & Stories title is heritage and legendary and will never be changed, nor should it be. After all, if IDW Publishing bought Coca-Cola, they certainly wouldn't rename it "IDW Cola," would they? And now, let's get back to the discussion of Mr. Mouse.

Quote from user: DebbieIn 2015, "Walt Disney's Comics and Stories" seems like an outdated title for mainstream readers. Walt Disney has been dead for decades, so nobody actually thinks he's writing and drawing the books himself. More often than not, the company just goes by the name Disney (as in "Disney's Princess Collection" or "Disney's DuckTales"). Very few comic books (save other legacy titles like "Action Comics" or "Detective Comics") still have the word "Comics" in their title. Nobody expects to see text stories in a comic book anymore. It's obvious that this title was chosen for longtime fans and collectors. Personally, falling into that category myself, I'm happy to see "Walt Disney's Comics and Stories" return with its full title.
I would consider the title a legacy thing as well. The truth is that they could call the title whatever they want, but there's something special about keeping the old title. My son is three years old and I've started introducing him to the comics. It kind of feels like I am passing something along to him with the comics, and having the same title of a series I've loved since I was a kid is part of that passage.

When I think of some of my favorite comic memories from my childhood, WDCS seems to be the first image that comes to mind (even when taking into account the other Disney titles). There's something almost comforting about seeing it in a store - even if Walt Disney has been gone for 50 years and there are no longer stories.

Walt Disney was dead 15 years before I was born and yet I came to know who he was, and appreciate his work and influence. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the same happens with today's kids, including my son.

And now I'm fantasizing about something: Is there a possibility of doing a lengthy adventure story featuring Mickey and Donald together?

Egmont has produced a lot of stories starring both Mickey and Donald so I'm sure we'll see some here.

Quote from user: Thomps2525And now I'm fantasizing about something: Is there a possibility of doing a lengthy adventure story featuring Mickey and Donald together?
Pay close attention to Walt Disney's Comics and Stories for...oh...say the full year. :)

Quote from user: MightyJoeI'm really glad that this Mickey Mouse title seems geared towards longer adventure stories, as I think the Mickey of the Gottfredson mode is the best of all possible Mickeys.

I don't suppose there are many unreleased stories featuring the classic, dot-eyed character design?
Arguably 90% of them are Gottfredson in origin (barring the British Wilfred Haughton gag pages that Dave spoke of) and that, as you know, is with Fantagraphics right now. Curiously enough, I was discussing this topic with Dave a while ago actually and there are a few specially done modern Italian stories that do make use of the classic models for Mickey and company. We'll see about them on down the road but, because the schedule's pretty full right now so, naturally, it'll be a while before we adapt them.

Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxIDW seems really big on pushing the notion that Donald and Mickey belong in the same universe; there've been references to Mickey and Minnie in most Duck stories presented so far.
I don't think it's a policy decision by editors at IDW or anything. Specifically, on the Minnie reference in "Stinker, Tailor...", scripter Joe Torcivia wrote in the comments section of his blog (tiahblog.blogspot.com) post on U$ 1:

Brigitta??s ??other client" was also my addition, once I saw the garment in question....
Scarpa may have decided to put Scrooge in a dress when he created the story back in the ??80s, but looking AT the dress, it just cried ??Minnie" to me so, in typical fashion, I milked it to the fullest. (end quote)

So in that case, at least, it was certainly not an editorial policy at work to sneak Minnie in there.

As I've said elsewhere, I personally agree with you, in terms of headcanon. Mouseton and Duckburg are in different universes. For me, that's because (1) they didn't mix in the stories I grew up with, (2) only the Duckburg universe and its characters actually became "real" to me in childhood, and (3) Rosa codified this separation in his version of the Duckburg universe. So it's also jarring to me to have a Mouse show up in a Duck story that otherwise seems "real" to me.... No problem on that front in "Stinker, Tailor..." though, since so far in my ever-evolving headcanon, no story with Scarpa-created characters has a chance of becoming "real"! Not to say I won't enjoy reading it, though.

But in general, I'd agree with you that I'd prefer that the writer/translator not bring Mice into Duck stories (or vice versa) unnecessarily, since that will pull me out of the story. Though I've got to say in Joe's defense, that dress really *did* scream "Minnie!"

Quote from user: Thomps2525Where did the convention of the Duck and Mouse universes being distinct originate? Was it with Al Taliaferro?
In late 1935, King Features technically split the Silly Symphony Sunday strip from the Mickey Mouse Sunday strip. The two had previously been sold as a unit??to get Symphony, a newspaper had to buy the full Mickey color page, which would include it as a top strip. Now they were sold individually, and there began to be cities where one paper bought Mickey and a rival paper bought Silly Symphony.

As a result, to avoid rival newspapers using the same characters, crossovers between Mickey and Symphony were now forbidden. If a character was in Symphony, he/she could not appear in Mickey.

What this meant was that when Donald's run in Symphony as a solo star began??in fall 1936??he had to stop appearing in Mickey for good. In weeks when Goofy, Clarabelle, Morty and Ferdie or Pluto appeared in Symphony with Donald, they technically should not have appeared in the Sunday Mickey that week either (though there may have been some slip-ups; I haven't checked).

When Donald graduated to his own daily strip in 1938, the situation continued??and accelerated: because Goofy, Clarabelle, Morty and Ferdie and Pluto were so often in the Mickey daily strip, there was no using them with Donald in the Donald daily, the way there had been in Donald's Silly Symphony Sundays. After a single appearance by Clarabelle in the Donald daily for Feb 28, 1938, they effectively vanished from Donald's life.

When Carl Barks began creating Western Publishing's Duck comics in the 1940s, he must have looked at the Taliaferro material that was then appearing in WDC&S and noticed the Mickey cast's absence, for he came to the belief that he wasn't supposed to mix Mickey's and Donald's worlds. "I did not want to raid the Mickey strips or the Goofy strips [sic]," he said. "They had their own comic books." When Western began creating its own original Mickey material as well, Mickey creators followed suit.

Italy seems to have noticed a general pattern in the American comics production??but didn't perceive a rule, so while they often kept Ducks and Mice apart, they created their fair share of team-ups from the start. They seem to have been the first to team Scrooge and Donald with Mickey, in this bizarre story, and the pattern continued fairly regularly from then on.