David, that question---"Where did the convention of the Duck and Mouse universes being distinct originate?"---was asked by Baar Baar Jinx, not by me. You probably got confused because I tend to ask so many questions, you now think that every question is one of mine.
Mickey and Donald appeared together in many cartoons, including Orphans' Picnic, Clock Cleaners, Moving Day, Mickey's Trailer and Lonesome Ghosts, and they appear together in several of the new series of cartoons (2013- ) so I can't understand why are there are so few comic-book stories in which they both appear. Does anyone know where Mouseton is located? It is close to Duckburg? Or are we not supposed to know?
As Baar Baar says, it would be jarring to see Bugs Bunny and Donald Duck in the same story.....but can't you picture them arguing with Elmer Fudd about whether it's "duck season" or "rabbit season"?
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Topic: Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
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Thomps2525
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 46 -
2015-06-01 at 22:14:08
Baar Baar Jinx
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 47 -
2015-06-01 at 22:30:55
Quote from user: Thomps2525Does anyone know where Mouseton is located? It is close to Duckburg? Or are we not supposed to know?
Nowhere near Duckburg. All the way across the country, in the Northeastern state of Pennecticut, we've decided. :)
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The question is, is "Mouston" a play on Boston or Houston?
Nowhere near Duckburg. All the way across the country, in the Northeastern state of Pennecticut, we've decided. :)
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The question is, is "Mouston" a play on Boston or Houston?
Thomps2525
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 48 -
2015-06-01 at 22:44:38
The Disney Wiki says Mouseton is in the fictional state of Calisota, the same state where Duckburg is located:
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Mouseton
And I'm assuming that the name "Mouseton" was never copyrighted by the Walt Disney Company. Otherwise, author Nick Page would be facing a lawsuit over his 2013 book Mouseton Abbey:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1782355871/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=28309114521&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=s&hvrand=10467368720723636102&hvpone=11.81&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7amxmmyu8a_b
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Mouseton
And I'm assuming that the name "Mouseton" was never copyrighted by the Walt Disney Company. Otherwise, author Nick Page would be facing a lawsuit over his 2013 book Mouseton Abbey:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1782355871/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=28309114521&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=s&hvrand=10467368720723636102&hvpone=11.81&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7amxmmyu8a_b
WB
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 49 -
2015-06-02 at 00:43:01
Quote from user: Thomps2525Does anyone know where Mouseton is located? It is close to Duckburg? Or are we not supposed to know?
Depends on what region you read your stories at, in what time period you read those stories and what canon you may actually subscribe to.
In Egmont, the mouse cast lives in Duckburg. There is no Mouseton. Rarely has been, and attempts to separate the two apparently led to confusion/bewilderment.
In Italy, Duckburg and Mouseton (not their Italian names obviously) are simply a short train/car ride away.
In other places I think they are on opposite coasts. (I cant name them but I know I've seen that before. France, maybe? Probably wrong on that).
In America, Mickey's city was rarely even given a NAME until the 90's. It had very occasionally been "Mouseville," but in other regions, it had ALWAYS been "Topolinia" or "Mickeyville." Someone finally noticed American Mickey's city was usually nameless and Disney said MOUSETON THAT'S IT THATS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT NO TAKE BACKS and its stuck ever since (it's a pun on Boston by the way).
No one ANYWHERE, however, seemed to catch a tiny throwaway Gottfredson throwaway line naming "Mouseachusetts" as a state, but -- because it was forgotten, used only once probably in a gag strip, and lost in time it is no longer canonable anywhere. I wish I could remember the strip I saw it in but I can't be bothered to trawl through goodness knows how many Gottfredson strips for one tiny thing.
The most interesting tidbit concerning location was actually established here in America several years later at Gemstone which reconciled the gap by making Mouseton and Duckburg twin cities that exist across the Tulebug river from each other. I believe this was hinted at in The Orb Saga or Mythos Island. Cant remember which. I'm not sure if it was said in a letter column or in the story itself (probably the former in a letter column if memory serves). But the reason for doing this/seeing it this way makes perfect sense when it comes to localization issues: ...This way, when localizing any number of stories -- Egmont stories where Mickey "lives in Duckburg" (when we all know good and well he doesn't) would make sense and Italian stories where they cross over with faint regularity would also make sense. Since Disney has established/demanded that Mickey have his own town in America and most regions DO put Mouseton squarely in Calisota, that was the easiest solution. And it has at least been the way I've seen it as that's the head canon that I personally grew up with. Of course, your mileage may vary. :)
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Now I defy ANYONE to make sense of the way Brazil used to do it with Jose Carioca living in the same city as Donald because Brazilian canon is JUST PLAIN WEIRD. LOL
Depends on what region you read your stories at, in what time period you read those stories and what canon you may actually subscribe to.
In Egmont, the mouse cast lives in Duckburg. There is no Mouseton. Rarely has been, and attempts to separate the two apparently led to confusion/bewilderment.
In Italy, Duckburg and Mouseton (not their Italian names obviously) are simply a short train/car ride away.
In other places I think they are on opposite coasts. (I cant name them but I know I've seen that before. France, maybe? Probably wrong on that).
In America, Mickey's city was rarely even given a NAME until the 90's. It had very occasionally been "Mouseville," but in other regions, it had ALWAYS been "Topolinia" or "Mickeyville." Someone finally noticed American Mickey's city was usually nameless and Disney said MOUSETON THAT'S IT THATS WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT NO TAKE BACKS and its stuck ever since (it's a pun on Boston by the way).
No one ANYWHERE, however, seemed to catch a tiny throwaway Gottfredson throwaway line naming "Mouseachusetts" as a state, but -- because it was forgotten, used only once probably in a gag strip, and lost in time it is no longer canonable anywhere. I wish I could remember the strip I saw it in but I can't be bothered to trawl through goodness knows how many Gottfredson strips for one tiny thing.
The most interesting tidbit concerning location was actually established here in America several years later at Gemstone which reconciled the gap by making Mouseton and Duckburg twin cities that exist across the Tulebug river from each other. I believe this was hinted at in The Orb Saga or Mythos Island. Cant remember which. I'm not sure if it was said in a letter column or in the story itself (probably the former in a letter column if memory serves). But the reason for doing this/seeing it this way makes perfect sense when it comes to localization issues: ...This way, when localizing any number of stories -- Egmont stories where Mickey "lives in Duckburg" (when we all know good and well he doesn't) would make sense and Italian stories where they cross over with faint regularity would also make sense. Since Disney has established/demanded that Mickey have his own town in America and most regions DO put Mouseton squarely in Calisota, that was the easiest solution. And it has at least been the way I've seen it as that's the head canon that I personally grew up with. Of course, your mileage may vary. :)
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Now I defy ANYONE to make sense of the way Brazil used to do it with Jose Carioca living in the same city as Donald because Brazilian canon is JUST PLAIN WEIRD. LOL
Ramapith
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 50 -
2015-06-02 at 00:57:43
Quote from user: Thomps2525The Disney Wiki says Mouseton is in the fictional state of Calisota
Thomps??please try to stop citing the Disney Wiki (and/or other wikis) authoritatively. Wikis can be edited by anyone, they often contain a lot of unofficial fanon, yet it sounds like you're trying to use them to definitively answer questions. All you're doing is adding a random, often unsourced voice to the debate??not even your own.
As for Mouseton's location: for entirely unsentimental reasons, as a Disney comics writer and editor, it's simply convenient for me to advance a general understanding of continuity that positions Mickey's town near Donald's. It makes it easier to explain huge numbers of stories where the characters do, indeed, team up and live near each other. And so many of those stories are so good that it would be a huge shame to avoid them.
The fact that the cities' proximity is established in Scarpa, the most famous creator we have in our IDW Disney comics right now, makes it all the more obvious a choice.
Now sure??Gottfredson is still my personal favorite, and Gottfredson put Mickey explicitly on the east coast. But if I'm going to pick a canon for our modern comics, I'd like to go with the one that makes sense with the largest number of good stories; and Mouse/Duck proximity works, whatever one thinks of it.
Thomps??please try to stop citing the Disney Wiki (and/or other wikis) authoritatively. Wikis can be edited by anyone, they often contain a lot of unofficial fanon, yet it sounds like you're trying to use them to definitively answer questions. All you're doing is adding a random, often unsourced voice to the debate??not even your own.
As for Mouseton's location: for entirely unsentimental reasons, as a Disney comics writer and editor, it's simply convenient for me to advance a general understanding of continuity that positions Mickey's town near Donald's. It makes it easier to explain huge numbers of stories where the characters do, indeed, team up and live near each other. And so many of those stories are so good that it would be a huge shame to avoid them.
The fact that the cities' proximity is established in Scarpa, the most famous creator we have in our IDW Disney comics right now, makes it all the more obvious a choice.
Now sure??Gottfredson is still my personal favorite, and Gottfredson put Mickey explicitly on the east coast. But if I'm going to pick a canon for our modern comics, I'd like to go with the one that makes sense with the largest number of good stories; and Mouse/Duck proximity works, whatever one thinks of it.
Ramapith
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 51 -
2015-06-02 at 01:12:20
Quote from user: WBThe most interesting tidbit concerning location was actually established here in America several years later at Gemstone which reconciled the gap by making Mouseton and Duckburg twin cities that exist across the Tulebug river from each other. I believe this was hinted at in The Orb Saga or Mythos Island.
Yep??Mythos Island!
Donald and Mickey were flying "home" and, in the Egmont original, explicitly identified this as Duckburg when it loomed on the horizon. Luckily, the city as depicted was nice and wide and balanced on a waterfront, so it made just as much sense to say we were seeing two (or parts of two).
Yep??Mythos Island!
Donald and Mickey were flying "home" and, in the Egmont original, explicitly identified this as Duckburg when it loomed on the horizon. Luckily, the city as depicted was nice and wide and balanced on a waterfront, so it made just as much sense to say we were seeing two (or parts of two).
MightyJoe
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 52 -
2015-06-02 at 03:16:32
Mickey #1 still scheduled for this week?
Thomps2525
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 53 -
2015-06-02 at 04:09:24
Yes. (See? I can give a brief answer once in a while.) Mickey Mouse #1 will be released on June 3. Two of the covers are pictured below. There is also a cover showing Mickey and Minnie trying to enter Disneyland's 60th Anniversary celebration. Pete, the security guard, is glaring at Mickey, who can't seem to find his admission ticket.
In 2011, DC Comics launched "The New 52." Fifty-two of their titles started over with a new "issue #1": Superman, Superboy, Supergirl, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, et al. Then, lo and behold, Marvel Comics re-launched Spider-Man, Daredevil, Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Iron Man, Fantastic Four and several other titles with a new "issue #1." This year, IDW is launching new #1 issues of Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge. And in two months, there will be an Archie #1. Yes, everyone's favorite freckle-faced redhead will be re-imagined for a new generation. (The character has been around since December of 1941.) When will this trend ever end? What ever happened to continuity?
In 2011, DC Comics launched "The New 52." Fifty-two of their titles started over with a new "issue #1": Superman, Superboy, Supergirl, Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, et al. Then, lo and behold, Marvel Comics re-launched Spider-Man, Daredevil, Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Iron Man, Fantastic Four and several other titles with a new "issue #1." This year, IDW is launching new #1 issues of Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge. And in two months, there will be an Archie #1. Yes, everyone's favorite freckle-faced redhead will be re-imagined for a new generation. (The character has been around since December of 1941.) When will this trend ever end? What ever happened to continuity?
Marrk
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 54 -
2015-06-02 at 05:32:09
Mickey #1 ISN'T coming out this week it's not schedules with IDW's releases here: http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=5792cac24346d164eb0cf6ad2&id=a33400eceb
Scrooge #3 should be out next week though.
Scrooge #3 should be out next week though.
FAa
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 55 -
2015-06-02 at 08:08:09
MM #1 (310) was originally scheduled for June 17 and later changed to June 3. But as marrk said, it's not on the list for this weeks releases. And the Previews page for #1 just say "TBD" right now.
Quote from user: Thomps2525Two of the covers are pictured below.
I think that's the back and front of the exclusive variant, not two different covers. There's going to be a blank sketch variant of this one too, but not with that Four Color Grails logo on the front.
Quote from user: Thomps2525Two of the covers are pictured below.
I think that's the back and front of the exclusive variant, not two different covers. There's going to be a blank sketch variant of this one too, but not with that Four Color Grails logo on the front.
Jorgito, Jaimito, Juanito
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 56 -
2015-06-02 at 13:28:41
Quote from user: marrkMickey #1 ISN'T coming out this week it's not schedules with IDW's releases here: http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=5792cac24346d164eb0cf6ad2&id=a33400eceb
Scrooge #3 should be out next week though.
Is Uncle Scrooge #3 available digitally? It seems so (look at above link), but where can you find it?
Scrooge #3 should be out next week though.
Is Uncle Scrooge #3 available digitally? It seems so (look at above link), but where can you find it?
Thomps2525
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 57 -
2015-06-02 at 22:30:15
The clerk at my local comics shop assured me that the new Mickey Mouse would be released on June 3 but it's obvious that the shop owners can't get accurate information any better than we can. I checked the June 3 releases on the Comixology, FreshComics and MyComicShop sites and there is no Mickey. On the PreviewsWorld site, there is no release date listed; it just says "Shipping in June."
But wait---the news gets better! Many people have inquired about subscriptions. Atomic Empire is listing the first three issues of Mickey Mouse and has pictures of the various covers and shows the release dates---Issue #1 is June 17---and is offering subscriptions:
http://www.atomicempire.com/issues.aspx?title=15942&
But wait---the news gets better! Many people have inquired about subscriptions. Atomic Empire is listing the first three issues of Mickey Mouse and has pictures of the various covers and shows the release dates---Issue #1 is June 17---and is offering subscriptions:
http://www.atomicempire.com/issues.aspx?title=15942&
MustangRockstar
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 58 -
2015-06-03 at 04:18:37
It's funny, The thought of Mickey and Donald not being in the same universe never occurred to me.
I would also say that I tended to buy into the idea of Mouseton and Duckburg being relatively close together - aka the car or train ride away that was mentioned earlier in this threat. I never really gave much thought to them being in the same state, though I have no problem with them both being in Calisota.
I would also say that I tended to buy into the idea of Mouseton and Duckburg being relatively close together - aka the car or train ride away that was mentioned earlier in this threat. I never really gave much thought to them being in the same state, though I have no problem with them both being in Calisota.
Clapton
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 59 -
2015-06-04 at 22:53:16
Quote from user: ramapithItaly seems to have noticed a general pattern in the American comics production??but didn't perceive a rule, so while they often kept Ducks and Mice apart, they created their fair share of team-ups from the start. They seem to have been the first to team Scrooge and Donald with Mickey, in this bizarre story, and the pattern continued fairly regularly from then on.
Is that story bizarre in a, good enough to be localized way or bizarre in a, lets forget that happened way.
Is that story bizarre in a, good enough to be localized way or bizarre in a, lets forget that happened way.
Clapton
Mickey Mouse #1 (310)
Message 60 -
2015-06-07 at 15:32:08
I checked Previews World and found out that Donald Duck #2, which was originally scheduled for the 24th, has been moved up to the 17th. Even though Mickey Mouse #1 is still listed as TBD, if it's still coming out this month that only leaves the 24th so that's my guess as to the release date.