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Topic: DuckTales 25th Anniversary

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Monochrome
I've never heard of this show bible myself. It might be a fan-site.
DuckTales is actually one of my favourite cartoons, despite the changes they made to the characters, which sometimes really got to my nerves. Sometimes it got the point where one has to wonder who this duck on the screen is and where did the real Scrooge go. DuckTales Scrooge just doesn't seem to have the same dynamics and comic Scrooge and the DuckTales Scrooge is usually more likely to commit acts of great stupidity, horrendous lack of logic, and general OOC moments like when he fell in love with Millionara Vanderbucks really randomly and really quickly in "Till Nephews do us part". Just wow Scrooge, why don't you join a book club and ride a narwhale over the moon while you're at it? Also, while writing it is obvious enough, I'm not sure why Scrooge just didn't learn to fly a plane rather than have Launchpad destroy everything all the time. It didn't seem to be as big of deal as you would think it would be in that world.
On the other hand, I saw DuckTales first, so that might be why I have a fondness for it. However despite the shortcomings it has to Barks!Scrooge, it still holds up it's own. The animation itself is pretty good, the theme song is ridiculously catchy, and it has some really good gags in it in my opinion, and for the rest of the time, the writing is usually enough to keep me happy (sometimes not, but it keeps me amused anyway). And Scrooge's car was really awesome looking, perhaps one of the few things I approved of of his obvious spending habit differences (the mansion, Duckworth etc.) I like both the comics and the show for different reasons because they are different things as far as I'm concerned that just use the same characters.
As for the long term impact, I think that depends where you live. Here, people still know and remember DuckTales. Why just this Christmas, I found seasons one to three at Wal-Mart. DuckTales apparently still overshows it's comic counterpart as I found out. There was an article about a Duck Comic and almost everyone commenting was talking about DuckTales. Only a handful of people actually seemed to know the difference and acknowledged who drew the comic. For extra salt in the wound, it was actually Don Rosa's "A Dream of a Lifetime" they were talking about, who hates DuckTales I've heard.
Also, I wish Disney would release the last season of DuckTales. I really, really do.
Mr. M
I grow up watching (and enjoying) DuckTales to the changes in the show from the comic books never bother me since it was always an alternet version to me, which was very good (and enjoyable) on it's own.
There are few bad episodes buth plenty incredible good as well - Heck! I love their version of "The Land of Tra-la-la" which while has the Gizmoduck character in it actually spent more time exploring the way people in Tra-la-la live and how the whole bottle cab thing alter their lives.

To be honest I see while they made most of the choises they did...
- They needed a character who would apply to young girls (since it is a pretty male-center cast) so they created Webby
- Donald voice was hard to undestand for younger kids plus they wanted to have more focuse on Scrooge/the boys relation, so off the navy he went
- The Bealge Boys being all identical is something that only wokrs in comic book but not on the screen;
- They wanted Scrooge to be more sympathethic since... well, to play it safe. It's hard to have a protagonist who abuse his family members, especially in a show that younger kids may watch.

As for "Don Rosa Ducktales hate" - I actually remeber him writing on DCML mailing list that he enjoy DuckTales and he consider it the best thing they had on television in the year it air for the first time... He simply don't find DuckTales characters the same characters as Carl Barks ducks and for him those are two diffrent worlds.
At one point - as mentioned more then once - he wanted to make a DuckTales-tribiute story in which he would show "DuckTales" exisisting in duck universe as a TV show base on Scrooge's life, a show which McDuck hates (as only person in Duckburg) and allways trying to sue it, sabotage etc.
Kimba_1962
Quote from user: MonochromeAs for the long term impact, I think that depends where you live. Here, people still know and remember DuckTales. Why just this Christmas, I found seasons one to three at Wal-Mart.
Plus, you can still find all seasons of DT, plus most of the other collected DTVA shows, at Best Buy. There must still be a level of buying interest to justify keeping these titles on the shelves.
Furienna
Quote from user: Mr. MUnlike Gizmo/Fenton who had potential and personality and they could mad many episodes around him, Bubba was pretty much a one-time character that they forced to be in more episode.

His just a dumb but very strong caveduck that has problems to interprate stuff in the modern day with a pet dinosaurs... Basically a younger, male version of Vicar's Princess Oona. Did we really needed a five-part episode to introduce him? Heck, after they introduce him only two episodes center around him and all other episodes just kind-off force him in as a secondary characters.

Well, Bubba maybe didn't need a five-part episode to introduce him. But those were good episodes, at least in my opinion. I agree with you though, that he pretty much was dead weight afterwards. And of course, Fenton is my favorite character on this show, so I'm not that sad about him getting the spotlight instead.
Monochrome
Quote:Plus, you can still find all seasons of DT, plus most of the other collected DTVA shows, at Best Buy. There must still be a level of buying interest to justify keeping these titles on the shelves
I saw those as well the other day! They come with a beach ball and everything, though sadly not of the characters of the show

Quote:As for "Don Rosa Ducktales hate" - I actually remeber him writing on DCML mailing list that he enjoy DuckTales and he consider it the best thing they had on television in the year it air for the first time... He simply don't find DuckTales characters the same characters as Carl Barks ducks and for him those are two diffrent worlds.
At one point - as mentioned more then once - he wanted to make a DuckTales-tribiute story in which he would show "DuckTales" exisisting in duck universe as a TV show base on Scrooge's life, a show which McDuck hates (as only person in Duckburg) and allways trying to sue it, sabotage etc.

Oh really? Well then I stand corrected, I guess. It seems that most people's impression is that he doesn't like it though...

I don't think that Bubba needed a five episode introduction for him either, it seemed like they just forced him into a show were he really didn't fit. It would have been better if they maybe had a two episode of him or so and called it a day. I enjoyed the five intro episodes of him as well, but they could have been done without him if my memory serves me correctly.

Though even though he was a cave duck, he STILL managed to get a better name than Doofus at least. Really, what kind of name is that? (either that, it strengthens the notion that everyone in Duckberg is a jerk). Speaking of Doofus, to be honest, I didn't really like him as a character. I suppose he did add a little bit to the show, and there was a couple funny gags where he was in, but he seemed too much like the lame fat guy (and how this was done was either kind of good or just most of the time bad, with occasional sparks of greatness) with not too much to offer, and the episode that was more or less centered around him "Superdoo" is one of my least favourite DuckTales episodes ever.... and it seems that he is unable to name himself anything presentable to save his life either.
Mr. M
I agree Doofus was weakest of Duck Tales characters (with exeption of Bubba) I just hate a character whos personality is reduce to the joke "hes fat so he eats all the time" (didn't Burger Beagle already got this part?) at the same time I like how he serve the role of Lunchpad solo fan base and there where few sweet moments betwen the two once a while...
Roger North
Maybe so but Doofus is a good character and Burger is a bad character. It's funny how Doofus idolized Launchpad. It's too bad he disappeared during the second season. I think Bubba was a replacement character for Doofus.
Furienna
Since I'm not that familiar with the earlier episodes, I'm not that familiar with Doofus either. So I won't comment on him.
Mr. M
Quote from user: Roger NorthMaybe so but Doofus is a good character and Burger is a bad character.
I'm puting my head down in shame admiting... I like Burger. Heck I like DucKTales, Beagles. I understand why people complain about how they change the Beagle Boys but I think they where amusing characters on their own and to be honest giving Beagles diffrent apperances works better in animation rather if they where simple clone of each others...
Roger North
I agree with you there Mr M. The Duck Tales Beagles are more distuinguishable than the ones from the non Duck Tales comic book stories.
Furienna
I too feel the change was good. Giving the different Beagles different personalities made them much more enjoyable to watch on TV.
Mr. M
They try to make Beagle Boys look all alike in "Sport Goofy" cartoon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggmVm2ljDuw
and in my opinion it simply dosen't work half as good.
BTW -> I wonder was the sequence at 09:22 inspiration for the "Beagle Boys vs. the Money Bin" story ending...
Monochrome
Personally I think the greatest moment with Doofus in it was when they were going under the sea for Scrooge's money, and there was that inflatable balloon incident. Haha I find that moment hilarious. Personally I found him being Launchpad's fanboy moments to be annoying, but I suppose he's suppose to represent those kids that are "#1 fan" of someone.
I agree that for screen purposes, it worked out better that the Beagle boys were separate, but in the comic I am quite happy with them being the way they are. I liked the addition to Ma Beagle though, she is my favourite of the female added characters, which I don't believe she was in the comics at any point, was she?
Furienna
Not that I know, but I'm no expert.
I agree with you about Ma Beagle. She could be really funny.
Mr. M
I sometimes wonder was this panel from "Only poor old man" inspiration for Burger desing :

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg24/scaled.php?server=24&filename=burgerbeagle.jpg&res=landing

So yhe, Carl Barks created Burger Beagle ;) Go figure...
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