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Daniel Van Eijmeren
ALL:

Yesterday a friend was telling me a strange tale about nutmeg. He told
me that nutmeg can have a sortlike effect as drugs when you take a
certain portion of it.

I laughed after hearing this story, but then I remembered Barks' story
"A Spicy Tale" (US 39) where Scrooge McDuck drinks nutmeg-tea. He's
clearly being shown addicted to it when he hears that the suppliers
stopped sending the "special nutmegs".

So, is there something special with nutmeg or is this all coincidence?
The friend told he read about nutmeg-as-drugs in the paper lately, is he
making a fool out of me?

*If* the story is true, does this mean that Barks' "A Spicy Tale" may
get banned?

Greetings,

--- Daniel

"My rare *wild nutmegs* from the upper Amazon!
I've *got to* have them!"
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Kathy Fitzpatrick
Daniel,

I have read the same information about Nutmeg. It has been a long time
since I read it and I believe it would take a lot of whatever part it of the
nutmeg plant to have such an efffect and that it was not a strong effect,
but obviously I should do further research before recommending nutmeg tea to
anyone. The way Barks spoofed things, I would guess that if he had come
across the same information that something is being spoofed, whether it is
compulsiveness, or even the idea that nutmeg could be addicting. Just
guessing however. (note to Wes - without sentiment in this case).

Kathy

>ALL:
>
>Yesterday a friend was telling me a strange tale about nutmeg. He told
>me that nutmeg can have a sortlike effect as drugs when you take a
>certain portion of it.
>
>I laughed after hearing this story, but then I remembered Barks' story
>"A Spicy Tale" (US 39) where Scrooge McDuck drinks nutmeg-tea. He's
>clearly being shown addicted to it when he hears that the suppliers
>stopped sending the "special nutmegs".
>
>So, is there something special with nutmeg or is this all coincidence?
>The friend told he read about nutmeg-as-drugs in the paper lately, is he
>making a fool out of me?
>
>*If* the story is true, does this mean that Barks' "A Spicy Tale" may
>get banned?
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>--- Daniel
>
>
> "My rare *wild nutmegs* from the upper Amazon!
> I've *got to* have them!"
>
>
>
Henri Sivonen
DANIEL:
New sources mention that nutmeg has that kind of effect. Old sources don't.
I suppose Barks didn't know about it when he wrote "A Spicy Tale". Still I
don't think it's necessary to ban the story.

--
Henri Sivonen
henris at clinet.fi
Fax: +358-0-479387
Mike Pohjola
DON:
You want to be questioned about your trip, eh?
How was Norway?
How was Finland?
What things did you do besides of autographing?
Would've you done the trip if you'd known what it was like?
Have you really never been to a sauna?
What kinds of pictures did you draw?
Did the trip inspire you to make a story?
Who list-members did you meet?
What countries would you like to visit next?
What did you think about the Disney comics in the countries you visited?
And the printings/translations of your stories?
Did you enjoy the Aku Ankkas?
Did you give the editors any notes about how should your stories be
printed in the future? (the Super Snooper Strikes Again had no remarks about
the first SS story, oDaDaD was translated "The Tale of the Lucky Dime"...)

DAN:
Did you get your Scrooge piggy bank?

DANIEL:
Yes, nutmegs really can have addicting effects, but then again, so
can coffee, tea, some colas, tobacco and - apparently - even gold!-)
(and I do think nutmegs was a way better choice than cocaine or hashish
for instance)

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Jyrki Vainio
DON:

Since we haven't seen but one or two of your covers here in
Finland it's a bit hard to follow the discussion here... Is the
Super Snooper cover that you've been talking about here the
same one that was part of your Finnish exhibition - the one
that features Donald rocketing skywards and which has no
background what-so-ever?
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Dan Shane
>DAN:
> Did you get your Scrooge piggy bank?

I sure did! Thank you, oh thank you! Don presented me with the gift
yesterday to my exquisite delight. I hope I can figure out some way of
repaying your kindness.

What nice people on this list! Don and I are going to attempt putting
together a nice Disney comics web page, so maybe that will entice others who
are really interested in Duck comics to get in on our fun.
BBranvold
I repeatedly see Don Rosa checklists from the Europeans on this list...but is
their a Rosa checklist in the United States. If one exists in the arkives
can someone inform me. If not, can we work together to compile one.
Thanks...Barry...
H.W. Fluks
BARRY:
> I repeatedly see Don Rosa checklists from the Europeans on this list...but is
> their a Rosa checklist in the United States. If one exists in the arkives
> can someone inform me.

There are in fact TWO Rosa checklists in the archives (ftp: ftp.update.uu.se).

pub/comics/disney/don-rosa.index (if that's the right file name) contains
all work by Don, including covers, drawings for fanzines, etc.
It includes "all" reprints in the USA, Norway, Sweden,
Finland, Denmark, The Netherlands.
This file is a "bit" out of date (more than a year).

pub/comics/disney/index/Rosa.story-index and
pub/comics/disney/index/Rosa.cover-index
contain all stories and covers by Don. Not listed are some fanzine
drawings and other special stuff.
All known reprints in the USA, Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands
are included.
The files are part of the Disney comics Database, which a.o.
has similar indexes on other artists and writers.
These files are 1 month old. The most recent Gladstone issues
(WD Giant #3, WDC #601) are not listed yet.

The second index is probably what you are looking for.

I planned to merge these two indexes to one Rosa checklist. At the moment,
both indexes contain information that is not in the other.

--Harry.
H.W. Fluks
The database files about Don Rosa's work are in

pub/comics/disney/index/creators/Rosa.story-index and
pub/comics/disney/index/creators/Rosa.cover-index
^^^^^^^^
--Harry.
Don Rosa
DANIEL:
Yes, nutmeg is a drug. Mormons won't eat it on their chocolate mousse.

AUGIE:
Gladstone certainly caters to comic fans/collectors, but DISNEY
fans/collectors... not super-hero collectors. Some Disney comics fans are
super-hero fans/collectors also (like me)... but not all. Perhaps not even
many. The Disney guy was a long-time comics collector who still had no idea
what the first issue of SUPERMAN looked like. That would have been just too
essoteric a gag for a cover, and done too much ONLY for super-hero fans,
even for my tastes (though the cover was my idea). But we had our cake and
ate it, too -- the cover was used, only on the inside.

JYRKI:
Yes, that was the Super-Snooper cover in the art show in Helsinki.

MIKE:
I won't take you seriously on all your questions -- I was looking for a
way to write a shorter report, not a longer one! But no, I've never been in
a sauna -- I hate being hot!
If the new reprint volume still printed the dialogue to my "Super
Snooper Strikes Again" story with all the references to the original story
removed, I'm glad I discussed how my stories might be being rewritten by
foreign editors in my text piece accompanying that story, where I told of
how those references were being removed in foreign editions. I assume the
didn't cut those remarks out of the text!?!?!
But the new American reprinting of that story in the WD GIANT wasn't
accurate either -- it matched the DISNEY Disney printing, and I should have
sent them corrections knowing that's what they'd do. They again removed the
references HD&L make to their missing parents (which is okay, I guess), but
they open the story with one nephew saying "This is awesome!" GAH! I would
never put such words in their mouths!!! I'll just assume they were using the
word in its 1955 context, in which case "awesome" might be very appropriate
for HD&L. Yeah.
But they still left the back cover of that comic blank, where the kid is
sitting at a drawing table working on a huge dollar bill, and it's SUPPOSED
to be an ad saying "Hey' kids! Make BIG MONEY!"

TODD:
I'll put your name on this again, so they can blame YOU for this further
reporting...
Lucca. This is the biggest Italian comics convention, though funding cuts
from the city seem to have greatly limited the number of professional guests
they can bring in. But all else is as before, I assume. The entire town
sponsors the convention, with posters in every storefront and free meals
with coupons at certain superb restaurants, and exhibits all over the old
city. Lucca is the world's only completely intact walled medieval town, and
for that sorta info you're better off getting a travel book, but it's pretty
darn neat, especially for an American like me who is used to an "old"
building being something 50 years old.
The convention was in a sports center gymnasium and 5 or 6 other large
circus-type tents. There were three tents for comics dealers, one for
gaming, and one for a sortuva "kiddie" expo with toys and stuff. There may
well have been close to as many dealers as one might see in San Diego, but
the floor area was smaller only because there were only a handful of
publishers -- American conventions like SD nowadays are made up about half
or more by all those macro and micro-publisher booths, as well as
super-spectacular booths by the larger publishers here in a nation where
they concentrate all such hoopla in such collector-shows since that's where
almost all their buyers are. Anyway, there were lots of dealers in Lucca,
and all with the widest array of types and shapes and sizes of comics I've
ever seen! It becomes quickly frustrating for an American to see how hoomin
beans are SUPPOSED to have a wide variety of choices in comic material. In
Italy (and Europe) you see a huge selection of every sort of comics genre --
in America we have a huge selection of the same stuff, over and over. Stores
full of the same stuff. A nation full of the same tastes.
It seems that the difference between American comics and Italian comics
is that comic books became popular there even before thye did in America,
but there has always been a WIDE variety of types of comics and styles of
presentation -- digests, pocket-books, albums, hardbacks (but very few
American-shaped comics). Disney comics rule, as everywhere in Europe, but
ESPECIALLY in Italy. How bizarre to my eyes to see that Disney items take up
about 1/3-1/2 of every booth, with some booths ALL Disney material!Whereas
in Scandanavia, where Disney comics have a generally juvenile look to them,
it Italy they have had, ever since the 30s, Disney comics in all shapes and
styles, for kiddies, teens, adults, collectors, everybody! And of course
with a comic output of about 15,000 pages per year, three or four times the
next largest! And it's been like that for 50-60 years, except perhaps during
WWII.
But there's also all sorts of other comics -- especially WESTERNS! One
of the very largest comic companies publishes almost nothing but westerns!
And in America we have hardly seen a western comic since the early 60s! Some
of the only super-hero comics come from a Marvel-Italy company which I
assume is a recent event there.
Oh, that's enough for today! I knew I shouldn't get into this -- there's
so much to say and I never know when to quit. I'll stop for now. (Blame Todd.)
David A Gerstein
DON:
You said, "Plus also too, this is the 4th time that ["Super
Snooper Strikes Again" has been printed in America. Once in the Disney
Disney issue, once in their DONALD AND $CROOGE "Don Rosa" $9 album,
once in the hard-to-find 3-issue "Don Rosa" DONALD AND $CROOGE set
sold only at Walmarts, and now once more."
Nope. It's not in the DONALD AND $CROOGE album. The only DD
stories in it are "The Master Landscapist," "On Stolen Time," and
"Incident at McDuck Tower" (although that last one has Scrooge's name
above the title, since it originally appeared in US 269 in the U. S.)
WDG 3 remains the second American printing of "Super Snooper
Strikes Again."
As I recall, the letterer of that story, and of EVERY Rosa
story Disney Comics Inc. used aside from "The Money Pit," was VERY
good. Her name escapes me at present... but does anyone know more
about her? Why hasn't Gladstone tried to get her for any of their
non-LO$ Rosa stories.

David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Vrjan Berglund
Hi, I am new on this mailing-list. I do not know if a question I have, have
been answered before.
The question I have is to Don:
The comic "Heats of the Youkon" appeared in #1 of Walt Disney Giant,
"Scrooge McDuck in the Yukon".
When the comic were advertised in Another Rainbow's/Gladstone's "winter
product catalog 1995" it showed the cover of "Uncle Walt's Collectory"
presenting "Uncle Scrooge in the Yukon", BUT the cover is another version of
the cover of WDG#1. They are almost identical, but some details are
different. What is the story behind the two covers?
Best Whishes, ¥B
Hans-Christian Holm
I'm new to this group, but it looks like a lot of you are interested in
what Disney comics are like in various countries. Is there anybody out
there actually collecting issues from all the world? I started this
hobby a couple of years ago, mainly as a result of my interest in
languages. In my opinion, reading Disney comics is THE best way to learn
a language if you want to be self-taught. Believe me, I've tried quite a
few other ways.

So far I have issues in Norwegian, Icelandic, English, Dutch, German,
Portuguese, Spanish, Romanian, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Russian, Greek,
Turkish, Arabic and Mandarin Chinese, but I'd like to have issues in
*all* available languages. I bought most of the issues when travelling
around myself, and some of them I asked friends to buy for me when they
went on holiday. I found the Arabic, Greek and Dutch issues in second
hand stores in Oslo!

But to get all languages, I guess I'll have to order them myself from
the publishers. I got a list of the major European editors from the
Norwegian publishing company, but they told me to ask Egmont Denmark (or
whatever they are called) for a complete list.

Before I do that, I'd like to hear from anybody with a similar interest,
and if anybody had experience with ordering issues from other countries.
Does anyone already have a complete list they can post here?

If there is any interest, I guess I can put a publisher list on the web.
I've searched the web, but found nothing.

HC

--
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