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Jacob Sparre Andersen
HENRI:

Serieforlaget, the Disney publisher in DK, started publishing "Mickey
Mysterier" with MM as a detective and MI as a TV host 1994-01-03, so Egmont
must have started in 1993. I'll run a check on all the codes tonight.

One of the good Mickey Mysteries stories is "En for olie og olie for en"
("One for oil and oil for one") where Phantom Blot has complete control of
the city's oil supplies, and uses that to take over all business in town. To
keep the grip, PB has to get rid of a scientist, that has figured out how to
make oil out of plastic from trash dumps.

Many of these stories seem to involve financial (usually non-violent) crimes.

Oh, and "Operation Atlantis" wasn't bad either. It's building on a plot I
remember from a Superman movie.

No more for now.

Jacob
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A Faroese student, far far away from home
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URL's: "mailto:sparre at cats.nbi.dk", "http://fys.ku.dk/‾sparre/Disney".
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"We need a plan to diverge from", Fesser
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Jacob Sparre Andersen
HENRI & MIKKO:

You aren't completely fair to the Scandinavian Disney publishers.

In Denmark, the translator always gets his (DD&Co.) or her (Jumbo) name in the
comics, and from time to time you'll see a note that a story is written by
Carl Barks or Don Rosa. I can't remember any other artists being mentioned in
Serieforlaget's publcations.

In the Faroes (yes, I know it's not a part of Scandinavia) there are full
credits, but since the only publication is CBLiC, it's not that hard to handle.

According to EU copyright law (as ruled in Denmark), does artists have the
right to get their name on any piece of work they do, and they _can't_ sell,
or in any other way give that right away. I.e. should somebody (me???) just
call Serieforlaget and ask them to put full credits in the comics. (I think
I'll try tomorrow.)

Jacob
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Have you played with your LEGO today?
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Arthur De Wolf
FRANK:
> I just paid a visit and I added a pointer to your page on mine. Good
> stuff! I saw the complete version of Artur's list (I had not realised
> it was online -- well done!) and I thought I might contribute a few
> more data points on Italy.

Are you talking about the country-list on Jacob's pages? Have you also
checked out the "Disney Comics From All Over The World"-website that I
made? It's not nearly complete yet (maybe only half of it), but you might
take a look at the stuff I wrote about Italy. I mentioned eleven Italian
Disney comics there, with all the sizes, average readership and sales,
sale channels, number of pages etcetera. You happen to know a lot
about Italian Disney comics. I could sure use your help to expand the
information I have about Italy.

> I'm not at home right now so I can't fill in all the details exactly
> (like what is the size of the albums, on what issue and year
> this-and-that happened...) but I think I can give you a reasonable
> amount of information from memory, probably more than you want to put
> in your file anyway :-)

Thanks for the information you gave in your last letter. My "Disney Comics
From All Over The World"-website is on: HTTP://WWW.PI.NET/‾WOLFMAN/DISNEY
I'll add all the things you wrote to my website.

C'ya,
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Moverman
On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Mike Pohjola wrote:

>
>
> DON (anybody may reply, I don't mind):
> A thought came to me when I read your message yesterday. You always
> complain about how American kids don't read books anymore, but spend all their
> time with tv instead. This hasn't been the case with Europe, but now cable and
> satellite have become popular in Finland too. Also you say that American
> kids don't read Duck comics any longer, but waste all their time on super-
> heros. Could those too have something to do with each other? Do I see the
> downfall of disney comics in Europe coming?
>
Hey it could be but I really hope not!
Jyrki Vainio
As far as I've heard the official explanation in Finland for not
including the creators' credits is that they gather material from
all over the Europe (i.e. Egmont, Italy and Holland) but they
DON'T get to know the credits from all of them, it would be
"unfair" to include credits for some stories but not for all. I
think they are already a bit "unfair" as now because they include
a credit line on Barks's stories, nowadays sometimes also with
the original publishing year. They also have this special mention
that they are "audience's favourites". I haven't seen that
mention used with other stories more than maybe once or twice.

JACOB:

What is this mention to LEGOs in the end of your messages? Are we
talking about these small plastic building blocks? Ohboy... if
you'd just know how many years it took me to get rid of the
addiction to them! At the time when I was on the first grade in
comprehensive school I used to play all my favourite $crooge
stories with them. I still don't need to reread any of the
stories from the years 1984-86 because I remember most of them
by heart (especially the first ones). Now I don't want to sink
further in my childhood traumas but let me just say that I spent
soooo many frustrating hours trying to make as glorious boat out
of my Legos as $crooge had in the comics...
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Augie De Blieck Jr.
DAVID or anyone else in the know:

Why are there no regular comics listed under Gladstone's section in the
new PREVIEWS catalog for books shipping in February? Did they miss it or
screw it up again? The U$A and WDC&S albums _were_ there in the
listings, though.

And any news on the license from Disney?

-Augie
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Geir J. Netland
MIKE P.:

> Do I see the
> downfall of disney comics in Europe coming?

In 1994, it was only "Calvin & Hobbes" and "The Far-Side" who sold
more than the year before here in Norway. That means that even
the Disney-comics have a downfall. I'm afraid that Europe will
follow in Americas foot-prints.

JACOB S.:

You said that you didn't think that any other but Barks and
Rosa has been mentioned in a DD&co (AA) magazine. Marco
Rota has also been mentioned. This was in an article in
one of the DD&co-extra issues, featuring one of Rotas
Donald-Villand (Andold Wildduck) stories.

I don't think that it will help very much to ask the
publishers to write the credits in the Disney-magazines.
A lot of people have asked them before.
Their answers are ex.: "Nobody is interessted in knowing
the credits" or "Disney doesn't allow us to write them".

---------------
Geir J. Netland
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Hide, men! If he sees us, he'll put
two and two together and get THREE
-Three guilty ducklings, that is!
Tryg Helseth
Don Wrote:

> I did double-check the unabridged about "Odds bodkins" and I was
>sorta surprised that my memory was perfect. It means "God's body" as in
>"Christ's body" after the bit on the cross. Also, it referred me to
>"Gadzooks", which means "God's (or Christ's) wounds"... both expressions
>used as a mild oath as in "By the Body of Christ!"

Thanks again for checking up on that, Don. Only a week ago I thought
that phrase was just a modern concoction intended to sound Medieval. I had
no idea it was authentic! (No doubt about it, I have to get a better
dictionary!)

I am still in the dark, however, as to which comic book I saw that used
in. For some reason, I still picture some charater in Medieval garb
saying that to either Mickey or Goofy. Since no one else seems to recall
this, however, I guess I'll just have to start re-reading all those MM
stories until if find it. This may take a while... :)

Tryg

Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.com>
Per Starback
Of course I goofed up, but I think I've repaired that now. If I have,
everyone on the list should have gotten a bunch of ADMIN messages from
me now. Now I'm testing that mail sent to the old list address still
makes it to the list.

/Per
Arthur De Wolf
Finally I've seen the final chapter of the "Life and Times of
Scrooge McDuck"-series. It appeared in the December issue of the Dutch
Donald Duck Extra today. Amazing. What a brilliant conclusion. I had
never thought it would end like this. I will not tell too much about it.
I might spoil the fun for people who haven't read it yet.
It also is the first Dutch story, in which they *didn't* color the
coins in Scrooge's Money bin gold. The coins are mixed silver and copper (?)
colored.
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Arthur De Wolf
FRANK:
Something strange happened to the letter I sent to Disney-Comics
yesterday. Did everyone get it ending like this:

> Thanks for the information you gave in your last letter. My "Disney Comics

The only thing I wanted to say was, that My "Disney Comics From All Over
The World"-website is on HTTP://WWW.PI.NET/‾WOLFMAN/DISNEY

Bye!
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Tommy Tran
Mike P.:

> A thought came to me when I read your message yesterday. You always
>complain about how American kids don't read books anymore, but spend all their
>time with tv instead. This hasn't been the case with Europe, but now cable and
>satellite have become popular in Finland too. Also you say that American
>kids don't read Duck comics any longer, but waste all their time on super-
>heros. Could those too have something to do with each other? Do I see the
>downfall of disney comics in Europe coming?

I think this has something to do with attention span. I don't know first
hand, and sorry if I offend, but I've heard that much of television in
Europe is "boring" (don't ask me where I heard this, because I don't
remember). Some of the Brittish shows (closest to Europe that American
television tends to get) that make it over are intelligent, literate, and
on the whole, lack the constant explosions that appear often on American
shows.
The point in saying all this, is that in order to watch television in
Europe, to my understanding, you must have an attention span.
Even some of the best American shows must cater to a largely short
attention span, channel surfing public.
Most new comics (i.e. Superhero) must cater to this audience, and
therefore, rely on flashy art (with men that are severly
misproportioned and women that are wearing very tight um... tights)
with violent battles in every issue.
The few superhero magazines that can break this paradigm are those
that have been around awhile and have a longstanding readership base.
(Though, this also has exceptions i.e. the death/rebirth of Superman).
If Finnish cable is bringing with is, short attention span shows
like American television, and more children are watching them,
then I fear for Disney comics.
(If my initial assumptions are wrong, I'm sorry in advance.)
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Don Rosa
ARTHUR:
Well, I'm pleased you liked the final chapter to the "Lo$"! And I'm
glad they used it in Holland in the December issue, it being a Xmas story. I
don't know if I was aware that they ran part XI yet, but obviously they
have... I hope!
But in just a week or two Gladstone's version will be appearing, and
it will be different than any other version that's appeared anywhere in the
world, since (as I've mentioned) I added 3 pages and generally rearranged
the rest of the story. So don't forget to check that version also.
Vanessa Chianese
subscribe disney-comics-request at student.docs.uu.se/L Vanessa Chianese

Vanessa Chianese
chianese at Trenton.EDU
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