PEKKA / CHRISTINA:
$350!!! Yipes!
(Pekka and Christina were at the Helsinki convention, and at the
other book signings I did in the area. They might be able to tell about
aspects of that convention that I naturally missed due to me being rather...
preoccupied.)
I'm off in a few hours to another convention, this one in Cleveland.
But don't worry -- I won't write a report about Cleveland!
Author
Topic: 199511
(224 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #856.
Message 151 -
1995-11-24 at 15:12:00
Vrjan Berglund
Disney-comics digest #856.
Message 152 -
1995-11-24 at 18:25:06
>Subject: The leather-bound edition
Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstr|m
>along with a limited leather-bound edition of 100 copies
What comics were in the book, and any other information.
¥rjan B
Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstr|m
>along with a limited leather-bound edition of 100 copies
What comics were in the book, and any other information.
¥rjan B
Jyrki Vainio
Disney-comics digest #854.
Message 153 -
1995-11-24 at 21:39:19
DON:
I've seen in Finland also a DD storybook which looks like being
adapted from a Barks story. The story had something to do with
Donald having a swimming pool. I don't remember any details,
though.
What comes to talking about reproducing your work, Petri
Kemppinen who writes comics-related articles for Finlands biggest
newspaper Helsingin Sanomat, said to me that according to some
copyright law it's possible to publish ANY artwork without
further permission when it's included in a general article, for
example about the author of the piece.
So let's say for example that I would write an article about the
Helsinki comics festivals (which I did) I could add a piece of
your artwork to it (which I also did). So now I'm *really*
hoping Petri was right...
By the way, you say you are so such a slow artists - well
everyone seeing you draw at the con I've heard of wondered how
you could do so tidy drawings in such a short time!
ALL:
Still talking about the Super Snooper: This very morning I
watched tv before going to school 'cause I wanted to see a
Warner Bros. cartoon which they feature every morning (!) but
which I'm normally not able to see for my early school mornings
(phew, this is one long sentence!). The same program featured
also an interview of Don during his trip - he also did live
drawings of the main Duck characters. Well anyways, my original
point was that this morning they featured an old WB Daffy Duck
cartoon called - Super Snooper! Who copied who? Unfortunately
I wasn't able to see the end of the cartoon for that I still
had to go to school also, so I didn't see what was the year
when they made that short. Anyone knowing about WB cartoons
out there? Some help in dating the film might be that the
director of the film was this Bob McK... something I can't
spell. Say it to me and I'll recognize it.
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
I've seen in Finland also a DD storybook which looks like being
adapted from a Barks story. The story had something to do with
Donald having a swimming pool. I don't remember any details,
though.
What comes to talking about reproducing your work, Petri
Kemppinen who writes comics-related articles for Finlands biggest
newspaper Helsingin Sanomat, said to me that according to some
copyright law it's possible to publish ANY artwork without
further permission when it's included in a general article, for
example about the author of the piece.
So let's say for example that I would write an article about the
Helsinki comics festivals (which I did) I could add a piece of
your artwork to it (which I also did). So now I'm *really*
hoping Petri was right...
By the way, you say you are so such a slow artists - well
everyone seeing you draw at the con I've heard of wondered how
you could do so tidy drawings in such a short time!
ALL:
Still talking about the Super Snooper: This very morning I
watched tv before going to school 'cause I wanted to see a
Warner Bros. cartoon which they feature every morning (!) but
which I'm normally not able to see for my early school mornings
(phew, this is one long sentence!). The same program featured
also an interview of Don during his trip - he also did live
drawings of the main Duck characters. Well anyways, my original
point was that this morning they featured an old WB Daffy Duck
cartoon called - Super Snooper! Who copied who? Unfortunately
I wasn't able to see the end of the cartoon for that I still
had to go to school also, so I didn't see what was the year
when they made that short. Anyone knowing about WB cartoons
out there? Some help in dating the film might be that the
director of the film was this Bob McK... something I can't
spell. Say it to me and I'll recognize it.
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Tryg Helseth
Nuts for Nutmeg
Message 154 -
1995-11-24 at 22:21:15
Howdy folks,
Just decloaking here to jump in to an almost off-topic topic.
Kathy, Daniel, Don, Mattias, et al...
A decade or so ago it was the rage to brand any comic that mentioned drugs
in any fashion as a "drug" issue. This seemed more like a ploy among
speculators as an excuse to charge more for that particular issue. So when
someone told me that "A Spicy Tale" was a drug issue because $crooge was
addicted to nutmeg, I laughed it off as a joke and forgot about it. Then I
started reading the discussion here.
By odd coincidence, my wife and I are currently taking a class titled
"Herbs, Spices, and Medicinal Plants." Just this week the instructor
talked about nutmeg and described how it is used as a drug. The was it was
used, however, is not by eating it; it is freshly ground and inhaled which
produces a hallucinatory effect. (I imagine you start to visualize
pink elephants sipping eggnog and eating pumpkin pie. <g>)
While $crooge wasn't inhaling the nutmeg, it could have a different effect
on a duck's metabolism than it does human's. Perhaps a duck may become
addicted just by ingestion?
Tryg
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.com>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -the Beach Drakes
Just decloaking here to jump in to an almost off-topic topic.
Kathy, Daniel, Don, Mattias, et al...
A decade or so ago it was the rage to brand any comic that mentioned drugs
in any fashion as a "drug" issue. This seemed more like a ploy among
speculators as an excuse to charge more for that particular issue. So when
someone told me that "A Spicy Tale" was a drug issue because $crooge was
addicted to nutmeg, I laughed it off as a joke and forgot about it. Then I
started reading the discussion here.
By odd coincidence, my wife and I are currently taking a class titled
"Herbs, Spices, and Medicinal Plants." Just this week the instructor
talked about nutmeg and described how it is used as a drug. The was it was
used, however, is not by eating it; it is freshly ground and inhaled which
produces a hallucinatory effect. (I imagine you start to visualize
pink elephants sipping eggnog and eating pumpkin pie. <g>)
While $crooge wasn't inhaling the nutmeg, it could have a different effect
on a duck's metabolism than it does human's. Perhaps a duck may become
addicted just by ingestion?
Tryg
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.com>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -the Beach Drakes
Per Starback
Nutmeg and drug issues
Message 155 -
1995-11-24 at 23:38:19
Actually the Overstreet Price Guide lists several Barks comics as drug
issues. Once a long time ago one question in a quiz at a Donaldist
meeting in Sweden was to list all those issues, but I don't remember
what they were now. The "Rip van Winkle" story in WDC at least. And
"Old California" as well. Probably more that I can't think of now.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
issues. Once a long time ago one question in a quiz at a Donaldist
meeting in Sweden was to list all those issues, but I don't remember
what they were now. The "Rip van Winkle" story in WDC at least. And
"Old California" as well. Probably more that I can't think of now.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Pekka V (JBV Timonen
Disney-comics digest #856.
Message 156 -
1995-11-25 at 00:56:58
¥RJAN:
The book contains the following stories: Guardians of the Lost Library,
Mythical Menagerie, Island at the Edge of Time, Incident of the McDuck Tower,
War of the Wendigo, Master Landscapist, Super Snooper Strikes Again, On
Stolen time and Return to Xanadu (all by Don Rosa, of course). Stories are
in Finnish and have introductions by Don Rosa. In the beginning of the book
is also a couple of articles about Don Rosa.
//Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstr|m
The book contains the following stories: Guardians of the Lost Library,
Mythical Menagerie, Island at the Edge of Time, Incident of the McDuck Tower,
War of the Wendigo, Master Landscapist, Super Snooper Strikes Again, On
Stolen time and Return to Xanadu (all by Don Rosa, of course). Stories are
in Finnish and have introductions by Don Rosa. In the beginning of the book
is also a couple of articles about Don Rosa.
//Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstr|m
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney-comics digest #857.
Message 157 -
1995-11-25 at 03:14:35
JYRKI and ALL:
Using the handy "Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies" reference guide to all
the Warner Brothers classic shorts, I discovered that Super Snooper was
released on 11 Nov 1952. Barks' story was in 1949. So Barks pre-dated
the WB short, which isn't to say one copied the other. ("Bob McK..." is
director Robert McKimson, by the way. Written by Tedd Pierce, for all
you fellow WB aficionados out there.)
The Super Snooper, though, in the Daffy Duck cartoon was a detective, not
a super-hero.
-Augie
-----------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. - Clinton caved. The supposed compromise deal
adebliec at internexus.net- included nothing that wasn't already in the
adebliec at drew.edu - Republican's budget.
Using the handy "Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies" reference guide to all
the Warner Brothers classic shorts, I discovered that Super Snooper was
released on 11 Nov 1952. Barks' story was in 1949. So Barks pre-dated
the WB short, which isn't to say one copied the other. ("Bob McK..." is
director Robert McKimson, by the way. Written by Tedd Pierce, for all
you fellow WB aficionados out there.)
The Super Snooper, though, in the Daffy Duck cartoon was a detective, not
a super-hero.
-Augie
-----------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. - Clinton caved. The supposed compromise deal
adebliec at internexus.net- included nothing that wasn't already in the
adebliec at drew.edu - Republican's budget.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney-comics digest #857.
Message 158 -
1995-11-25 at 03:21:52
DON
Is this the Mid-Ohio Convention you will be attending? (Is another one
of those coming up again already? I thought Tony Isabella was just
showing pictures of the last one in the Comics Buyers Guide just last
month. Sheesh, time flies.)
I think a con report should be filed. After all, it would be a good
juxtaposition to read about an American con after all your grand European
exploits. =)
ALL:
The back cover of the Comics Buyers Guide for this week is advertising
the upcoming "Walt Disney's Uncle $crooge Adventures In Color" series.
This series will be reprinting all of Barks' $crooge stories
chronologically, starting with Four Color #386. (That's also known as
Uncle $crooge #1, right?)
I am so excited about this. It is 56 volumes and they expect to put out
16 next year starting in February and another twenty a year for the next
two years.
Subscriptions are available, as well, for those interested. (All 56
volumes for a mere $495.00 GULP)
Looks like I'll be spending a LOT of money on Gladstone books next year -
between the regular series, Lo$ reprinting, U$A series, and possible WVH
and/or Don Rosa series... Yowch. Better ask for more hours at work. ;)
This is all so exciting, though.
-Augie
-----------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. - Clinton caved. The supposed compromise deal
adebliec at internexus.net- included nothing that wasn't already in the
adebliec at drew.edu - Republican's budget.
Is this the Mid-Ohio Convention you will be attending? (Is another one
of those coming up again already? I thought Tony Isabella was just
showing pictures of the last one in the Comics Buyers Guide just last
month. Sheesh, time flies.)
I think a con report should be filed. After all, it would be a good
juxtaposition to read about an American con after all your grand European
exploits. =)
ALL:
The back cover of the Comics Buyers Guide for this week is advertising
the upcoming "Walt Disney's Uncle $crooge Adventures In Color" series.
This series will be reprinting all of Barks' $crooge stories
chronologically, starting with Four Color #386. (That's also known as
Uncle $crooge #1, right?)
I am so excited about this. It is 56 volumes and they expect to put out
16 next year starting in February and another twenty a year for the next
two years.
Subscriptions are available, as well, for those interested. (All 56
volumes for a mere $495.00 GULP)
Looks like I'll be spending a LOT of money on Gladstone books next year -
between the regular series, Lo$ reprinting, U$A series, and possible WVH
and/or Don Rosa series... Yowch. Better ask for more hours at work. ;)
This is all so exciting, though.
-Augie
-----------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. - Clinton caved. The supposed compromise deal
adebliec at internexus.net- included nothing that wasn't already in the
adebliec at drew.edu - Republican's budget.
MVHaas
Super Snooper cartoon
Message 159 -
1995-11-25 at 06:38:21
The Daffy Duck "Super Snooper" cartoon is from 1952 and was directed by
Robert McKimson. It's a take off on the hard-boiled detective movies (with
Daffy as Duck Drake, Private Eye, Ear, Nose, and Throat.) Nothing to do with
super heroes.
--Merlin Haas
Robert McKimson. It's a take off on the hard-boiled detective movies (with
Daffy as Duck Drake, Private Eye, Ear, Nose, and Throat.) Nothing to do with
super heroes.
--Merlin Haas
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
Answer to Don
Message 160 -
1995-11-25 at 11:48:22
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 031-667632 95-11-25 10:47
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Hiya!
DON:
> You seem to have gotten a wrong idea due to the way they editted a
> few lines out of my text piece that accompanied my Duck Family Tree
> in WDC&S #600.
Eh?
> I had written that the only way Ludwig Von Drake could be Donald's
> uncle is if he were married to Matilda... but I went on to say that
> various editors and such asked me not to include Ludwig for reasons I
> don't recall. So I left him out. But in my own private notes, I have
> Ludwig married to Matilda McDuck. The same way that, in my private
> notes, Fethry Duck does NOT exist.
Hmm.. I haven't got my copy of WDC #600 yet. So I know NOTHING about that.
But it sounds very likely that Ludwig can be married to Matilda McDuck.
But why wouldn't you have included Fethry if you could have made the
Family Tree the way *you* liked? Is it because he isn't a Barks-character
or something? But Ludwig isn't a Barks-character either, is he? So why
would you include Ludwig but not Fethry?
-> IN=disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Hiya!
DON:
> You seem to have gotten a wrong idea due to the way they editted a
> few lines out of my text piece that accompanied my Duck Family Tree
> in WDC&S #600.
Eh?
> I had written that the only way Ludwig Von Drake could be Donald's
> uncle is if he were married to Matilda... but I went on to say that
> various editors and such asked me not to include Ludwig for reasons I
> don't recall. So I left him out. But in my own private notes, I have
> Ludwig married to Matilda McDuck. The same way that, in my private
> notes, Fethry Duck does NOT exist.
Hmm.. I haven't got my copy of WDC #600 yet. So I know NOTHING about that.
But it sounds very likely that Ludwig can be married to Matilda McDuck.
But why wouldn't you have included Fethry if you could have made the
Family Tree the way *you* liked? Is it because he isn't a Barks-character
or something? But Ludwig isn't a Barks-character either, is he? So why
would you include Ludwig but not Fethry?
TKlein28
Walled towns, etc.
Message 161 -
1995-11-25 at 18:29:10
DON:
I imagine it hinges on the definition of "intact". I don't know if the
wall at York is all original or partly rebuilt -- ditto for some of the
others I've seen. And in York, as in Quebec, there are modern buildings
inside the wall along with the ancient ones. Then again, Lucca may be using
that old marketing ploy of claiming to be one of a kind because most people
won't question the assertion...like the several towns in midwest America, in
different states, that claim to be the geographic center of the U.S.
I can't comment on the national character of Italians and the Finnish,
nor do I really think one should generalize that way, but I do think national
attributes are noticeable to travelers that aren't apparent to locals. Being
in England, for instance, makes one realize how loud and gregarious the
average American is by contrast, especially while eating in a restaurant,
where the British speak quietly in hushed tones, if at all, and the loud ones
are usually other Americans! There is some variety of general behavior around
the U.S. as well. A convention in Dallas that I attended twice had a very
different atmosphere than either New York or San Diego. Attendees in Dallas
were more polite (often using "sir" to address pros) and more relaxed in
general, as well as very friendly toward anyone who shared their interests.
ARTHUR:
You mentioned "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" being called "Life
of Scrooge" in a CBG interview/article. That's what many of the scripts I
received said, too. But since Don had named the series "Life and Times" in
the first one, and as I try to maintain continuity whenever I can, I added
the complete title to each chapter. This might have been noticed and
corrected by Gladstone if I DIDN'T do it, but that's how it happened.
I imagine it hinges on the definition of "intact". I don't know if the
wall at York is all original or partly rebuilt -- ditto for some of the
others I've seen. And in York, as in Quebec, there are modern buildings
inside the wall along with the ancient ones. Then again, Lucca may be using
that old marketing ploy of claiming to be one of a kind because most people
won't question the assertion...like the several towns in midwest America, in
different states, that claim to be the geographic center of the U.S.
I can't comment on the national character of Italians and the Finnish,
nor do I really think one should generalize that way, but I do think national
attributes are noticeable to travelers that aren't apparent to locals. Being
in England, for instance, makes one realize how loud and gregarious the
average American is by contrast, especially while eating in a restaurant,
where the British speak quietly in hushed tones, if at all, and the loud ones
are usually other Americans! There is some variety of general behavior around
the U.S. as well. A convention in Dallas that I attended twice had a very
different atmosphere than either New York or San Diego. Attendees in Dallas
were more polite (often using "sir" to address pros) and more relaxed in
general, as well as very friendly toward anyone who shared their interests.
ARTHUR:
You mentioned "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" being called "Life
of Scrooge" in a CBG interview/article. That's what many of the scripts I
received said, too. But since Don had named the series "Life and Times" in
the first one, and as I try to maintain continuity whenever I can, I added
the complete title to each chapter. This might have been noticed and
corrected by Gladstone if I DIDN'T do it, but that's how it happened.
Pekka V (JBV Timonen
Disney-comics digest #856.
Message 162 -
1995-11-25 at 23:26:10
DON:
>They might be able to tell about aspects of that convention that I
>naturally missed due to me being rather... preoccupied.
We were also pretty preoccupied (following Don around). We only checked
some sales tables, and listened to some interviews while waiting for Don
to return from various signings and radio interviews. The convention was
arranged by Helsingin Sarjakuvaseura (Comics Society of Helsinki). Foreign
guests of honor were Roberta Gregory (USA), Anke Feuchtenberger (Germany)
and Don Rosa (Kentucky). There were also many Finnish comics professionals,
mainly from Helsinki. It seemed to be (at least for us) like any other
Finnish (comics) convention: interviews, panels, exhibitions and sales
tables. Don had an exhibition of his original artwork in the gallery of the
Good Fellows Comics Store.
//Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstr|m
>They might be able to tell about aspects of that convention that I
>naturally missed due to me being rather... preoccupied.
We were also pretty preoccupied (following Don around). We only checked
some sales tables, and listened to some interviews while waiting for Don
to return from various signings and radio interviews. The convention was
arranged by Helsingin Sarjakuvaseura (Comics Society of Helsinki). Foreign
guests of honor were Roberta Gregory (USA), Anke Feuchtenberger (Germany)
and Don Rosa (Kentucky). There were also many Finnish comics professionals,
mainly from Helsinki. It seemed to be (at least for us) like any other
Finnish (comics) convention: interviews, panels, exhibitions and sales
tables. Don had an exhibition of his original artwork in the gallery of the
Good Fellows Comics Store.
//Pekka Timonen & Christina Hellstr|m
KERSTIN S.DERBAUM
Pinocchio
Message 163 -
1995-11-25 at 23:59:31
--- Inkommet fr}n VD.POL2 031-667632 95-11-25 22:58
-> IN=Disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Hiya, everybody!
I'm confused. Me and my familly sat down in the sofa this evening to watch
Disney's masterpiece Pinocchio. Suddenly the movie had just ended and I
sat there - we all sat there - very confused. I was certain of that I had
missed something. The movie in short: Pinocchio becomes a living boy made
of wood. He gets cheated by this guy Honest John (or whatever his name is)
and his friend Gideon. They're selling him to this guy Stromboli who have
this show with Pinocchio. Then Pinocchio gets kidnapped by a guy who cast
some strange spell over all the boys, making them donkeys he's going to
sell to the salt mines. Then is this event with the whale. And in the end
Pinocchio becomes a real boy and all that. But shouldn't there be more?
Shouldn't there be an event in the movie where Pinocchio is planting all
the money he has earned from the show, and thinks they'll grow to more
money, for example? I'm confused. Is there anybody who know this movie?
Can you please help me? Am I wrong?
---
Jack Soederbaum
-------------------------------------------------
"I have only one soda left, senor... But I think
it has been FLAT since the Great War!
Ever since World War TWO?!
CARAMBA! There was ANOTHER one?
--------------------------------
VD.POL2 at MEMO.VOLVO.SE
-> IN=Disney-comics(a)Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE
Hiya, everybody!
I'm confused. Me and my familly sat down in the sofa this evening to watch
Disney's masterpiece Pinocchio. Suddenly the movie had just ended and I
sat there - we all sat there - very confused. I was certain of that I had
missed something. The movie in short: Pinocchio becomes a living boy made
of wood. He gets cheated by this guy Honest John (or whatever his name is)
and his friend Gideon. They're selling him to this guy Stromboli who have
this show with Pinocchio. Then Pinocchio gets kidnapped by a guy who cast
some strange spell over all the boys, making them donkeys he's going to
sell to the salt mines. Then is this event with the whale. And in the end
Pinocchio becomes a real boy and all that. But shouldn't there be more?
Shouldn't there be an event in the movie where Pinocchio is planting all
the money he has earned from the show, and thinks they'll grow to more
money, for example? I'm confused. Is there anybody who know this movie?
Can you please help me? Am I wrong?
---
Jack Soederbaum
-------------------------------------------------
"I have only one soda left, senor... But I think
it has been FLAT since the Great War!
Ever since World War TWO?!
CARAMBA! There was ANOTHER one?
--------------------------------
VD.POL2 at MEMO.VOLVO.SE
Kathy Fitzpatrick
Nuts for Nutmeg
Message 164 -
1995-11-26 at 03:40:41
Well, while nutmeg tea does not sound that good, hot and cold drinks (with
or without alcohol) have a comfortable appeal so that I could only imagine
U$ either getting relaxation from his tea so he can think and produce better
or some kind of stimulation that gives him energy. I simply can't imagine
him inhaling his nutmeg and hallucinating, though. I know you weren't
suggesting it. Many relaxants and stimulant used for centuries if not
thousands of years are found not to be "good" for you. Anyone over 40
probably remembers people who thought banana peels were a big deal (get a
life!).
It is interesting to speculate though and now I am really wondering what
nutmeg tea would taste like?
Kathy
>Howdy folks,
>
>Just decloaking here to jump in to an almost off-topic topic.
>
>Kathy, Daniel, Don, Mattias, et al...
>
>A decade or so ago it was the rage to brand any comic that mentioned drugs
>in any fashion as a "drug" issue. This seemed more like a ploy among
>speculators as an excuse to charge more for that particular issue. So when
>someone told me that "A Spicy Tale" was a drug issue because $crooge was
>addicted to nutmeg, I laughed it off as a joke and forgot about it. Then I
>started reading the discussion here.
>
>By odd coincidence, my wife and I are currently taking a class titled
>"Herbs, Spices, and Medicinal Plants." Just this week the instructor
>talked about nutmeg and described how it is used as a drug. The was it was
>used, however, is not by eating it; it is freshly ground and inhaled which
>produces a hallucinatory effect. (I imagine you start to visualize
>pink elephants sipping eggnog and eating pumpkin pie. <g>)
>
>While $crooge wasn't inhaling the nutmeg, it could have a different effect
>on a duck's metabolism than it does human's. Perhaps a duck may become
>addicted just by ingestion?
>
>Tryg
>
>
>Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
> or <tryg.helseth at tstation.com>
>
>"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -the Beach Drakes
>
>
or without alcohol) have a comfortable appeal so that I could only imagine
U$ either getting relaxation from his tea so he can think and produce better
or some kind of stimulation that gives him energy. I simply can't imagine
him inhaling his nutmeg and hallucinating, though. I know you weren't
suggesting it. Many relaxants and stimulant used for centuries if not
thousands of years are found not to be "good" for you. Anyone over 40
probably remembers people who thought banana peels were a big deal (get a
life!).
It is interesting to speculate though and now I am really wondering what
nutmeg tea would taste like?
Kathy
>Howdy folks,
>
>Just decloaking here to jump in to an almost off-topic topic.
>
>Kathy, Daniel, Don, Mattias, et al...
>
>A decade or so ago it was the rage to brand any comic that mentioned drugs
>in any fashion as a "drug" issue. This seemed more like a ploy among
>speculators as an excuse to charge more for that particular issue. So when
>someone told me that "A Spicy Tale" was a drug issue because $crooge was
>addicted to nutmeg, I laughed it off as a joke and forgot about it. Then I
>started reading the discussion here.
>
>By odd coincidence, my wife and I are currently taking a class titled
>"Herbs, Spices, and Medicinal Plants." Just this week the instructor
>talked about nutmeg and described how it is used as a drug. The was it was
>used, however, is not by eating it; it is freshly ground and inhaled which
>produces a hallucinatory effect. (I imagine you start to visualize
>pink elephants sipping eggnog and eating pumpkin pie. <g>)
>
>While $crooge wasn't inhaling the nutmeg, it could have a different effect
>on a duck's metabolism than it does human's. Perhaps a duck may become
>addicted just by ingestion?
>
>Tryg
>
>
>Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
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Erik Corry
Spicy drucks
Message 165 -
1995-11-26 at 05:57:00
: [Is nutmeg really a drug?]
Well, in http://www.hyperreal.com/drugs/faqs/FAQ-Nutmeg I find:
+ MACMILLAN DICTIONARY OF TOXICOLOGY:
myristicin
A naturally occurring methylenedioxyphenyl compound found in
nutmeg. It has been suggested that myristicin may be
responsible, in whole or in part, for the toxicity of nutmeg.
The spice (5-15g) causes symptoms similar to atropine
poisoning: flushing of skin, tachycardia, absence of
salivation, and excitation of the central nervous system.
Euphoria and hallucinations have given rise to abuse of this
material.
Apparently, one whole nut is enough to provoke an effect, but
to be honest, looking at the effects detailed in the rest of the
file (vomiting, dizzyness), I can't see why anyone would want to
(ab)use the stuff.
There's no mention of it being addictive.
: I laughed after hearing this story, but then I remembered Barks' story
: "A Spicy Tale" (US 39) where Scrooge McDuck drinks nutmeg-tea. He's
: clearly being shown addicted to it when he hears that the suppliers
: stopped sending the "special nutmegs".
This is probably the closest you can get to handling a drugs theme
in a Disney comic! Although I can think of a few stories with
smugglers, they definitely weren't specified as smuggling drugs.
And certainly the idea of any of the ducks being addicted seems
very dodgy.
--
Erik Corry ehcorry at inet.uni-c.dk
Well, in http://www.hyperreal.com/drugs/faqs/FAQ-Nutmeg I find:
+ MACMILLAN DICTIONARY OF TOXICOLOGY:
myristicin
A naturally occurring methylenedioxyphenyl compound found in
nutmeg. It has been suggested that myristicin may be
responsible, in whole or in part, for the toxicity of nutmeg.
The spice (5-15g) causes symptoms similar to atropine
poisoning: flushing of skin, tachycardia, absence of
salivation, and excitation of the central nervous system.
Euphoria and hallucinations have given rise to abuse of this
material.
Apparently, one whole nut is enough to provoke an effect, but
to be honest, looking at the effects detailed in the rest of the
file (vomiting, dizzyness), I can't see why anyone would want to
(ab)use the stuff.
There's no mention of it being addictive.
: I laughed after hearing this story, but then I remembered Barks' story
: "A Spicy Tale" (US 39) where Scrooge McDuck drinks nutmeg-tea. He's
: clearly being shown addicted to it when he hears that the suppliers
: stopped sending the "special nutmegs".
This is probably the closest you can get to handling a drugs theme
in a Disney comic! Although I can think of a few stories with
smugglers, they definitely weren't specified as smuggling drugs.
And certainly the idea of any of the ducks being addicted seems
very dodgy.
--
Erik Corry ehcorry at inet.uni-c.dk