Folks!
I take the liberty of forwarding this entry from the librarian's
stumpers list. It gives new insight in both library work
and the vocation of the three nephews. Especially considering
"Guardians of the Lost Library" the views below
are very apt. Enjoy!
Even
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>Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:00:53 -0500 (EST)
>From: Joe Gayda <(Email removed)>
>Subject: New names for librarians
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>Comments: STUMPERS-L - Difficult reference questions and answers
>
>
> My partner Janet Stevenson and I have come up with several new names
>for those who work in libraries.
>
> We work in a corporate library in Maryland and much, if not most, of
>our time is spent working with computers. If we are not surfing the Net, we
>are compiling lists, cataloging the collection, working on the corporate Web
>Page (Janet is Webmaster), or simply learning new software packages.
>
> Since we work in a Microsoft Windows environment and are currently
>learning Windows 95, we are both sensitive to the terminology of this
>environment - especially that fascinating term "GUI" (Gooey). As most
>librarians know, "GUI" stands for "Graphical User Interface," the software
>devices which provide computer users with easy transparent ways to issue
>commands to their computers.
>
> One day Janet was contemplating GUIs and realized that reference
>librarians serve much the same function in libraries: we act as Human User
>Interfaces between our patrons and the information in the resources of our
>institutions, computers, or other information resources. That makes us
>"HUIs" (Hueys).
>
> Of course this leaves other librarians and library staff out of the
>picture, and that will never do. After a little thought, I realized that
>others in the library would fit in similar categories. For example, the
>library pages and check out personnel are Library User Interfaces between
>the library patron and the library books, periodicals, tapes, and other
>materials. That makes them "LUIs" (Louies). And of course there are those
>dedicated people who work long and hard cataloging the materials of our
>institutions and entering the data into the computer databases for our
>patrons - the Data User Interfaces, more appropriately called DUIs (or Deweys).
>
> So, there you have it: libraries are really made to function by
>that famous trio: Huey, Louie, and Dewey.
>
>
> Joe Gayda
>
>
>Janet Stevenson Joe Gayda
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>Webmaster Librarian
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>
>
Even Flood, Senior Research Librarian
Norwegian DIANE Center, Technical University Library of Norway
N 7034 Trondheim, Norway. Phone: +47 73 59 51 62, Fax +47 73 59 60 97
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"Come, and take choice of all my library, and so beguile thy sorrow."
(Shakespeare)
Author
Topic: 199612
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Even Flood
New names for librarians
Message 106 -
1996-12-17 at 09:28:31
Marco Barlotti
U$ 1916 Quarter
Message 107 -
1996-12-17 at 11:35:33
MARCUS: (Nice name, btw)
The story you mention is probably from UNCLE SCROOGE 5, March-May 1954. I
ignore the original title (if any). $crooge buys every (!) copy of the 1916
quarter to make it the world's rarest coin. This eventually brings him under
the ocean to discover the ancient people of Atlantis. In this story
$crooge's "worry room" and the "JW's book of knowledge" make their first
appearance. Fossati credits Chase Craig for the base idea of the story.
Of course I can't help you with reprints. Maybe you can find something in
the data base now that you know the original issue number?
Marco (!)
The story you mention is probably from UNCLE SCROOGE 5, March-May 1954. I
ignore the original title (if any). $crooge buys every (!) copy of the 1916
quarter to make it the world's rarest coin. This eventually brings him under
the ocean to discover the ancient people of Atlantis. In this story
$crooge's "worry room" and the "JW's book of knowledge" make their first
appearance. Fossati credits Chase Craig for the base idea of the story.
Of course I can't help you with reprints. Maybe you can find something in
the data base now that you know the original issue number?
Marco (!)
Byron Erickson
I had it on the shelf
Message 108 -
1996-12-17 at 13:45:11
CHRISTER (in Digest 275):
> Does somebody know who have drawn the story "Leket=F8ys" in the norwegian
> DD&Co 50/51? The code is D96096 and the art is kind of dark and somewhat
> detailed, but not as detailed as Don Rosa's. It's about Donald becomming
> manager for a toyshop scrooge owns which has had several mystical breaking=
> ins.
The art is by Colomer. Writer is Gorm Transgaard (a Dane). FYI, Gorm
writes his stories as "scribbles" -- that is, he draws them all in much
the same way Barks drew his scripts for his Woodchuck stories. The
English title is just "Toy Store" (Bah! I know the English titles hardly
ever get used, but I'm still trying to get everyone to start putting a
*little* more thought into coming up with something that sounds nifty.)
Byron "Full of information today, totally silent tomorrow" Erickson
> Does somebody know who have drawn the story "Leket=F8ys" in the norwegian
> DD&Co 50/51? The code is D96096 and the art is kind of dark and somewhat
> detailed, but not as detailed as Don Rosa's. It's about Donald becomming
> manager for a toyshop scrooge owns which has had several mystical breaking=
> ins.
The art is by Colomer. Writer is Gorm Transgaard (a Dane). FYI, Gorm
writes his stories as "scribbles" -- that is, he draws them all in much
the same way Barks drew his scripts for his Woodchuck stories. The
English title is just "Toy Store" (Bah! I know the English titles hardly
ever get used, but I'm still trying to get everyone to start putting a
*little* more thought into coming up with something that sounds nifty.)
Byron "Full of information today, totally silent tomorrow" Erickson
Sschridde
Rosa-Story in German MM
Message 109 -
1996-12-17 at 19:05:00
Hello all:
On Thursday, another German weekly Micky Maus will be in the stores...
containing part one of a Rosa story! (Code: AR 145)
It is about the hill $crooge's bin is built upon...
"Emil Erpel" (what's his English name? He's the founder of Duckburgh) is the
last person in the fort on the hill and is nearly forced to hand it over to
another army... he shocks them with popcorn and therefore is the owner of the
fort... which he soon calls Duckburg... the result is that $crooge is the king,
not owner of the hill! That's where the first part ends...
Now to the questions: In the first panel, there are two blank spots in the
German version: a "curled" piece of paper without anything on it and a picture
on the wall... blank white with a German "Alles meins!" (All mine!) on it...
Can someone tell me what was originally written there, and what is the English
title of the story???
Thanks, Soeren
On Thursday, another German weekly Micky Maus will be in the stores...
containing part one of a Rosa story! (Code: AR 145)
It is about the hill $crooge's bin is built upon...
"Emil Erpel" (what's his English name? He's the founder of Duckburgh) is the
last person in the fort on the hill and is nearly forced to hand it over to
another army... he shocks them with popcorn and therefore is the owner of the
fort... which he soon calls Duckburg... the result is that $crooge is the king,
not owner of the hill! That's where the first part ends...
Now to the questions: In the first panel, there are two blank spots in the
German version: a "curled" piece of paper without anything on it and a picture
on the wall... blank white with a German "Alles meins!" (All mine!) on it...
Can someone tell me what was originally written there, and what is the English
title of the story???
Thanks, Soeren
Fluks
U$ 1916 Quarter
Message 110 -
1996-12-17 at 19:16:57
Marcus, Marco (Marca, Marcae, Marci):
> The story you mention is probably from UNCLE SCROOGE 5
> I ignore the original title (if any).
The story had no title.
> Maybe you can find something in
> the data base now that you know the original issue number?
Reprints in the USA:
Uncle Scrooge 189 (Western)
WDC Digest 1 (Western)
U$ Digest 4 (Gladstone)
Gladstone's Giant album #2
U$ Adventures in Color (CBL album) #5.
--Harry.
> The story you mention is probably from UNCLE SCROOGE 5
> I ignore the original title (if any).
The story had no title.
> Maybe you can find something in
> the data base now that you know the original issue number?
Reprints in the USA:
Uncle Scrooge 189 (Western)
WDC Digest 1 (Western)
U$ Digest 4 (Gladstone)
Gladstone's Giant album #2
U$ Adventures in Color (CBL album) #5.
--Harry.
Arthur De Wolf
-- Subject-Space for rent --
Message 111 -
1996-12-17 at 20:46:37
Howdy!
Well, I'd like to add my .02 and say I really liked the 608th issue
of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories. The cover is just brilliant. Beauti-
fully colored by Susan again. (How does she do that, btw? Airbrush?
Computergraphics?). I've always liked the Gladstone-coloring a LOT, but
sometimes Susan colors a whole portion of a panel in the same color, while
there're a lot of details in it. Like in the second part of "the Once
and Future Duck"-story, on the second page, the seventh panel is colored
completely orange, and on the third page in the sixth panel, the crowd of
warriors is also colored entirely orange. Why does she do that? It doesn't
look very nice, especially in between those beautifully colored other
panels! The little stars in the word "comics" on the cover is a brilliant
little touch! "Sleepless in Duckburg" was very funny. Although I still
think some of Van Horn's Duck-characters look terrible, they're getting
better and better every time. "Plastic Mickey" also was a great story. One
of the few Mickey-stories in a long time that I actually read from beginning
to end!
Maybe I liked this issue so much because there were so many comic-
pages in it and so little "The Year That Was"-pages and other useless
articles that I wouldn't read anyway! Now that WDC&S has gone monthly,
does that mean that this title is actually selling well? Is Gladstone
happy with the sales-figures of WDC&S? And what about the other titles?
I guess now that the glossy paper and letter columns are returning,
Gladstone wasn't happy with the sales figures?
What about the relicensing of American Disney comics? I haven't
heard from that for quite a while! Does Gladstone still have the license
for another how-many-years?!? Would it be possible that if Gladstone would
loose the license, Egmont would continue publishing Disney comics in the
United States? What would happen if Egmont would take over Gladstone?
Do you think that will be a good thing for the American Disney comic
market??!?
BYRON:
I have some Egmont comics called "Mukku Mayc". I can't figure out
from which country they are. On one of them it is clearly stated that it
was published by Egmont Russia, but isn't Mickey Mouse called differently
in Russia? There're advertisements for a "Ducktales"-comic, but Ducktales
is spelled completely different (something like "Vtuhuie Uctopuu"), while
I also have Russian comics on which Ducktales is spelled like "Ducktales".
What's going on here? Are these comics from Belarus or other close-to-
Russia countries?
Arthur de Wolf -- www.pi.net/~wolfman
Well, I'd like to add my .02 and say I really liked the 608th issue
of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories. The cover is just brilliant. Beauti-
fully colored by Susan again. (How does she do that, btw? Airbrush?
Computergraphics?). I've always liked the Gladstone-coloring a LOT, but
sometimes Susan colors a whole portion of a panel in the same color, while
there're a lot of details in it. Like in the second part of "the Once
and Future Duck"-story, on the second page, the seventh panel is colored
completely orange, and on the third page in the sixth panel, the crowd of
warriors is also colored entirely orange. Why does she do that? It doesn't
look very nice, especially in between those beautifully colored other
panels! The little stars in the word "comics" on the cover is a brilliant
little touch! "Sleepless in Duckburg" was very funny. Although I still
think some of Van Horn's Duck-characters look terrible, they're getting
better and better every time. "Plastic Mickey" also was a great story. One
of the few Mickey-stories in a long time that I actually read from beginning
to end!
Maybe I liked this issue so much because there were so many comic-
pages in it and so little "The Year That Was"-pages and other useless
articles that I wouldn't read anyway! Now that WDC&S has gone monthly,
does that mean that this title is actually selling well? Is Gladstone
happy with the sales-figures of WDC&S? And what about the other titles?
I guess now that the glossy paper and letter columns are returning,
Gladstone wasn't happy with the sales figures?
What about the relicensing of American Disney comics? I haven't
heard from that for quite a while! Does Gladstone still have the license
for another how-many-years?!? Would it be possible that if Gladstone would
loose the license, Egmont would continue publishing Disney comics in the
United States? What would happen if Egmont would take over Gladstone?
Do you think that will be a good thing for the American Disney comic
market??!?
BYRON:
I have some Egmont comics called "Mukku Mayc". I can't figure out
from which country they are. On one of them it is clearly stated that it
was published by Egmont Russia, but isn't Mickey Mouse called differently
in Russia? There're advertisements for a "Ducktales"-comic, but Ducktales
is spelled completely different (something like "Vtuhuie Uctopuu"), while
I also have Russian comics on which Ducktales is spelled like "Ducktales".
What's going on here? Are these comics from Belarus or other close-to-
Russia countries?
Arthur de Wolf -- www.pi.net/~wolfman
Marco Barlotti
Duck family tree again
Message 112 -
1996-12-17 at 23:58:34
DON ROSA wrote:
>
>No, I certainly would never give Gyro's helper a name! "Edy"?!
>
So what happened with "Zio Paperone"?
>And what Luca is writing about Daisy Duck having a brother who is the father
>to April, May and June... did that also say that my Tree says that Daisy is
>the sister of whoever it was that married Della?
No, no, no! First of all, it's not Luca Boschi writing about the Duck family
tree. He just wrote one page about <From Duckburg to Lillehammer> and Don's
theory about the dicks' world being "frozen" in the 50's. There are five
pages devoted to Don's Duck Family tree, and they are credited to Lidia
Cannatella (!) and Alberto Becattini. However, on those no mention is made
either of Gyro's helper or of April, May and June Duck... My questions arose
(and still arise) from the tree itself: on this, as <friend to the Ducks>
Gyro is quoted with his helper, and the "English" caption says <Gyro
Gearloose and Edy>. Weird, huh? More: April, May and June are quoted as
<April Duck>, <May Duck> and <June Duck>.
To quote Rich Morrissey:
> No, their surname almost certainly isn't "Duck," since they're the
>daughters of Daisy's married sister. (No, they don't live with Daisy. They
>just visit sometimes.) This was established in their first appearance in
>Barks' classic story about Flipism.
So my question here is: did Don write these surnames in "his" tree?
Or was that another of good Lidia's fabulous ideas? (She is credited as the
<caretaker> of the tree!)
Marco
>
>No, I certainly would never give Gyro's helper a name! "Edy"?!
>
So what happened with "Zio Paperone"?
>And what Luca is writing about Daisy Duck having a brother who is the father
>to April, May and June... did that also say that my Tree says that Daisy is
>the sister of whoever it was that married Della?
No, no, no! First of all, it's not Luca Boschi writing about the Duck family
tree. He just wrote one page about <From Duckburg to Lillehammer> and Don's
theory about the dicks' world being "frozen" in the 50's. There are five
pages devoted to Don's Duck Family tree, and they are credited to Lidia
Cannatella (!) and Alberto Becattini. However, on those no mention is made
either of Gyro's helper or of April, May and June Duck... My questions arose
(and still arise) from the tree itself: on this, as <friend to the Ducks>
Gyro is quoted with his helper, and the "English" caption says <Gyro
Gearloose and Edy>. Weird, huh? More: April, May and June are quoted as
<April Duck>, <May Duck> and <June Duck>.
To quote Rich Morrissey:
> No, their surname almost certainly isn't "Duck," since they're the
>daughters of Daisy's married sister. (No, they don't live with Daisy. They
>just visit sometimes.) This was established in their first appearance in
>Barks' classic story about Flipism.
So my question here is: did Don write these surnames in "his" tree?
Or was that another of good Lidia's fabulous ideas? (She is credited as the
<caretaker> of the tree!)
Marco
Shaun M. Knowler
Early Christmas present
Message 113 -
1996-12-18 at 03:26:46
ARTHUR:
Got the Duck pics in the mail yesterday! They're excellent! I can't
believe how much cool Rosa stuff we North Americans were missing!
-Shaun
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #279
******************************************
Got the Duck pics in the mail yesterday! They're excellent! I can't
believe how much cool Rosa stuff we North Americans were missing!
-Shaun
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #279
******************************************
Shaun M. Knowler
German Rosa Story
Message 114 -
1996-12-18 at 04:13:39
SOEREN: Gosh...hope that's spelled right...
The story you speak of is called "His Majesty, McDuck", and the english
name of Duckburg's founder is Cornelius Coot. Too bad they've serialized
it on you, the story was written as a one parter, and came out a number of
years ago in North America. But, it's still quite a good story!
-Shaun
...what am i talking about...of course it's a good story...Don wrote it...
The story you speak of is called "His Majesty, McDuck", and the english
name of Duckburg's founder is Cornelius Coot. Too bad they've serialized
it on you, the story was written as a one parter, and came out a number of
years ago in North America. But, it's still quite a good story!
-Shaun
...what am i talking about...of course it's a good story...Don wrote it...
Markoff
His Majesty McDuck
Message 115 -
1996-12-18 at 04:46:55
SOEREN:
In the first panel of "His Majesty McDuck," the picture on the wall has a
few rows of coins with "All mine!" underneath. The label on the trashcan
says "dirty money." "His Majesty McDuck" first appeared in UNCLE SCROOGE
ADVENTURES 14, 1989.
--Jonathan Markoff
In the first panel of "His Majesty McDuck," the picture on the wall has a
few rows of coins with "All mine!" underneath. The label on the trashcan
says "dirty money." "His Majesty McDuck" first appeared in UNCLE SCROOGE
ADVENTURES 14, 1989.
--Jonathan Markoff
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #279
Message 116 -
1996-12-18 at 08:00:52
--------------------------------------------------
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Cc: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #278
>
>what is mr rosa address?
--------------------------------------------------
Do these messages from "(Email removed)" originate from North America?
My address is "(Email removed)". But I won't answer anonymous messages, so
please be kind enough to include your full name. But don't worry if English
is your second language... I speak only one language, so I'm very tolerant
of those who bravely endeavor to speak two. At least, evidence leads me to
assume that English is your second language.
MARCO:
In the Italian version of "From Duckburg to Lillehammer", the story opens in
"Freezer City" and moves to "Lysgardsbakken"??? Whaaaat? Do they still use
"From Duckburg to Lillehammer" as the title? I mean, I can see why they
might want to eliminate the reference to the '94 Winter Olympics, but why
remove the references to Duckburg? And if they have text pieces and
explanations, why not use the original script and explain the story's
origins? Is this the work of the "Not Evil But Rather Mislead Translator"?
And no, I never referred to April, May and June as having any last names. I
assume the editors are simply trying to make those character names match the
form of all the other names on the Tree -- full first/last names. And
they're using the idea of "Duck" being a common last name. What else can
they do? It would look odd if those characters were the only ones with no
last names... and if they tried to be more creative, what could they use
that some reader wouldn't object to? "April Mallard"? "May Smith"? "June
Mxyzptlk"? I think this is more honest efforts from the "Not Evil Yet Doing
Her Best But Can't Win For Trying Translator".
SOEREN:
The story you refer to is "His Majesty McDuck" which was the story I was
working on for Gladstone when Disney enforced that no-return-of-art decree
on them that forced me to quit, but eventually resulted in my working for
Europe. The story title is what should have been in that scroll, and your
guess is as good as mine as to why they didn't place it there in that German
edition. As to what I had in the picture frame on the wall, I would guess
that it was a batch of coins... but you're saying they removed the coins,
yet still placed a translation of the exhibit's label? Strange and
mysterious things happen in these European translations!
It's not a multi-part story, however, so it will be interesting as to how
they break it into chapters. By the way, the point of the story was supposed
to be that $crooge is "King" of his hill because the complex events of
history dictated that his hill was never part of the United States... I hope
that's what is happening in that German translation, otherwise the rest of
the story won't make any sense.
By the way, no one has mentioned it here yet, but I believe that there's my
new chapter in "The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck"... or, at least, a new
story of $crooge's early years, whether it's part of the "Lo$" series or
not... in all the current Egmont weeklies in Europe (EXCEPT the German
ones). It's the one titled "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" and takes place in
Arizona in 1890.
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Cc: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #278
>
>what is mr rosa address?
--------------------------------------------------
Do these messages from "(Email removed)" originate from North America?
My address is "(Email removed)". But I won't answer anonymous messages, so
please be kind enough to include your full name. But don't worry if English
is your second language... I speak only one language, so I'm very tolerant
of those who bravely endeavor to speak two. At least, evidence leads me to
assume that English is your second language.
MARCO:
In the Italian version of "From Duckburg to Lillehammer", the story opens in
"Freezer City" and moves to "Lysgardsbakken"??? Whaaaat? Do they still use
"From Duckburg to Lillehammer" as the title? I mean, I can see why they
might want to eliminate the reference to the '94 Winter Olympics, but why
remove the references to Duckburg? And if they have text pieces and
explanations, why not use the original script and explain the story's
origins? Is this the work of the "Not Evil But Rather Mislead Translator"?
And no, I never referred to April, May and June as having any last names. I
assume the editors are simply trying to make those character names match the
form of all the other names on the Tree -- full first/last names. And
they're using the idea of "Duck" being a common last name. What else can
they do? It would look odd if those characters were the only ones with no
last names... and if they tried to be more creative, what could they use
that some reader wouldn't object to? "April Mallard"? "May Smith"? "June
Mxyzptlk"? I think this is more honest efforts from the "Not Evil Yet Doing
Her Best But Can't Win For Trying Translator".
SOEREN:
The story you refer to is "His Majesty McDuck" which was the story I was
working on for Gladstone when Disney enforced that no-return-of-art decree
on them that forced me to quit, but eventually resulted in my working for
Europe. The story title is what should have been in that scroll, and your
guess is as good as mine as to why they didn't place it there in that German
edition. As to what I had in the picture frame on the wall, I would guess
that it was a batch of coins... but you're saying they removed the coins,
yet still placed a translation of the exhibit's label? Strange and
mysterious things happen in these European translations!
It's not a multi-part story, however, so it will be interesting as to how
they break it into chapters. By the way, the point of the story was supposed
to be that $crooge is "King" of his hill because the complex events of
history dictated that his hill was never part of the United States... I hope
that's what is happening in that German translation, otherwise the rest of
the story won't make any sense.
By the way, no one has mentioned it here yet, but I believe that there's my
new chapter in "The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck"... or, at least, a new
story of $crooge's early years, whether it's part of the "Lo$" series or
not... in all the current Egmont weeklies in Europe (EXCEPT the German
ones). It's the one titled "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" and takes place in
Arizona in 1890.
Ole R. Nielsen
The penguin affair
Message 117 -
1996-12-18 at 14:48:30
CHRISTER:
> Does somebody know who have drawn the story "Leket=F8ys" in the norwegian
> DD&Co 50/51? The code is D96096 and the art is kind of dark and somewhat
JUERGEN:
> I would guess that it was drawn by Scalabroni who uses a similar shading
> technique.
I associate that style with Jan Guldbrandsen, but wouldn't bet too much
on it anyway. Now please tell us who is right, Harry!
FRANK (quoting JAN):
>>=== Ref: Scarpa and Cimino, "Mickey meets Doctor Neutron"
>> I-654A (entry code JB 19i)
>>=== Status: classified
>
> A few factual corrections: the story appeared in Topolino Libretto 596 and
> 597 (1967), thus its extrapolated story code (Italian stories didn't have
> codes back then) would be, if anything, I-596-A.
and HARRY:
> Could it be that the Danish pocket book (JB 19) had the wrong story code?
Oops, looks like I got caught in one of my Goof-ups. Many of the early
Jumbo Book story codes were guessed from the Fossati index, just from
titles, descriptions and appearing characters. Why I made this exact call,
I can't guess now, but at least the artist was correct.
This also gives some clues to how the indexes from various countries are
inter-related - the Swedish apparently also borrows back from the Danish.
We had a discussion recently about Paul Bunyan being a 'commercial'
character, designed by a lumber company. Also Rudolf the Red-nosed
reindeer was created for commercial reasons. Apparently the same seems
to be the case with Santa Claus himself. According to a newspaper story
his well-known appearance was created in 1931 for... a Coca-Cola ad.
But I doubt they'll sue for using his 'distinctive likeness'.
That's it for this year. I'll be back with some *spoiler* comments
about the next, fine Don Rosa adventure in a month's time. See you.
-- Ole 'Resting over Christmas' Nielsen <(Email removed)>
> Does somebody know who have drawn the story "Leket=F8ys" in the norwegian
> DD&Co 50/51? The code is D96096 and the art is kind of dark and somewhat
JUERGEN:
> I would guess that it was drawn by Scalabroni who uses a similar shading
> technique.
I associate that style with Jan Guldbrandsen, but wouldn't bet too much
on it anyway. Now please tell us who is right, Harry!
FRANK (quoting JAN):
>>=== Ref: Scarpa and Cimino, "Mickey meets Doctor Neutron"
>> I-654A (entry code JB 19i)
>>=== Status: classified
>
> A few factual corrections: the story appeared in Topolino Libretto 596 and
> 597 (1967), thus its extrapolated story code (Italian stories didn't have
> codes back then) would be, if anything, I-596-A.
and HARRY:
> Could it be that the Danish pocket book (JB 19) had the wrong story code?
Oops, looks like I got caught in one of my Goof-ups. Many of the early
Jumbo Book story codes were guessed from the Fossati index, just from
titles, descriptions and appearing characters. Why I made this exact call,
I can't guess now, but at least the artist was correct.
This also gives some clues to how the indexes from various countries are
inter-related - the Swedish apparently also borrows back from the Danish.
We had a discussion recently about Paul Bunyan being a 'commercial'
character, designed by a lumber company. Also Rudolf the Red-nosed
reindeer was created for commercial reasons. Apparently the same seems
to be the case with Santa Claus himself. According to a newspaper story
his well-known appearance was created in 1931 for... a Coca-Cola ad.
But I doubt they'll sue for using his 'distinctive likeness'.
That's it for this year. I'll be back with some *spoiler* comments
about the next, fine Don Rosa adventure in a month's time. See you.
-- Ole 'Resting over Christmas' Nielsen <(Email removed)>
Christer Hanssen
From Duckburg to Lillehammer
Message 118 -
1996-12-18 at 16:28:12
Marco B.:
>Rosa's story is better, but is a 10-pager (sorry, a 12-pager) only. A
>question on this: if the title is "From Duckburg to Lillehammer", how come
>the plot takes place in <Freezer City> (?) for the first 9 pages and in
><Lysgardsbakken> (so says the caption) for the last three?
In the norwegian story the plot starts at "Sprengfrostnuten hotell" which is
not a city, but a hotel in mountains above Duckburg. Lysgardsbakken is the
name of the skijump arena in Lillehammer. So I guess the translaters made a
little mistake on the first one, if it says "city", but the second is
absolutely correct. Then how many outside Norway would now that
"Lysgardsbakken" is in Lillehammer?
~Christer - "There he goes - trying to get out of his share of work!"
>Rosa's story is better, but is a 10-pager (sorry, a 12-pager) only. A
>question on this: if the title is "From Duckburg to Lillehammer", how come
>the plot takes place in <Freezer City> (?) for the first 9 pages and in
><Lysgardsbakken> (so says the caption) for the last three?
In the norwegian story the plot starts at "Sprengfrostnuten hotell" which is
not a city, but a hotel in mountains above Duckburg. Lysgardsbakken is the
name of the skijump arena in Lillehammer. So I guess the translaters made a
little mistake on the first one, if it says "city", but the second is
absolutely correct. Then how many outside Norway would now that
"Lysgardsbakken" is in Lillehammer?
~Christer - "There he goes - trying to get out of his share of work!"
Byron Erickson
I see said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw
Message 119 -
1996-12-18 at 16:39:34
ARTHUR DE WOLF wrote:
> I have some Egmont comics called "Mukku Mayc". I can't figure out
> from which country they are. On one of them it is clearly stated
> that it was published by Egmont Russia, but isn't Mickey Mouse
> called differently in Russia? There're advertisements for a
> "Ducktales"-comic, but Ducktales is spelled completely different
> (something like "Vtuhuie Uctopuu"), while I also have Russian comics
> on which Ducktales is spelled like "Ducktales". What's going on
> here? Are these comics from Belarus or other close-to-Russia
> countries?
Oh, this is going to be fun to try to answer this question since I can't
use any cyrillic-alphabet characters in this mailing list.
Let's see -- yes, the comics you have are Russian, but the Russian
Mickey Mouse comic has gotten a new logo. The old logo (which you
reproduced above as "Mukku Mayc") was a "handwritten" type font. The two
"U"s in that title are not "u"s at all--they're backwards "N"s, which
are really Russian "E"s. The new logo uses an ordinary typefont, so it
looks like "MNKKU MAYC" (assuming you reverse those "N"s so they read
backwards). Both logos say quite simply "Mickey Mouse".
As far as DuckTales goes, what you reproduced above ("Vtuhuie Uctopuu")
is also from a "handwritten" type font, so the "U" should also be
backwards "N"s (which you now know are really "E"s if you've been paying
attention). There are also a few other letters which aren't what you
think they are, but never mind. The title can be translated into English
as "Duck Stories". To add to your confusion, the Russians do sometimes
use the latin alphabet, and may once have advertised "Vtuhuie Uctopuu"
as "DuckTales" (probably a left-over dirty commie plot designed to
confuse the masses!).
Are you just *so* glad you asked?
-- Byron "he ain't got the slightest idea what he's talking about"
Erickson
> I have some Egmont comics called "Mukku Mayc". I can't figure out
> from which country they are. On one of them it is clearly stated
> that it was published by Egmont Russia, but isn't Mickey Mouse
> called differently in Russia? There're advertisements for a
> "Ducktales"-comic, but Ducktales is spelled completely different
> (something like "Vtuhuie Uctopuu"), while I also have Russian comics
> on which Ducktales is spelled like "Ducktales". What's going on
> here? Are these comics from Belarus or other close-to-Russia
> countries?
Oh, this is going to be fun to try to answer this question since I can't
use any cyrillic-alphabet characters in this mailing list.
Let's see -- yes, the comics you have are Russian, but the Russian
Mickey Mouse comic has gotten a new logo. The old logo (which you
reproduced above as "Mukku Mayc") was a "handwritten" type font. The two
"U"s in that title are not "u"s at all--they're backwards "N"s, which
are really Russian "E"s. The new logo uses an ordinary typefont, so it
looks like "MNKKU MAYC" (assuming you reverse those "N"s so they read
backwards). Both logos say quite simply "Mickey Mouse".
As far as DuckTales goes, what you reproduced above ("Vtuhuie Uctopuu")
is also from a "handwritten" type font, so the "U" should also be
backwards "N"s (which you now know are really "E"s if you've been paying
attention). There are also a few other letters which aren't what you
think they are, but never mind. The title can be translated into English
as "Duck Stories". To add to your confusion, the Russians do sometimes
use the latin alphabet, and may once have advertised "Vtuhuie Uctopuu"
as "DuckTales" (probably a left-over dirty commie plot designed to
confuse the masses!).
Are you just *so* glad you asked?
-- Byron "he ain't got the slightest idea what he's talking about"
Erickson
Byron Erickson
If at first you don't succeed...
Message 120 -
1996-12-18 at 16:43:46
Um... When I typed "MNKKU MAYC" in my previous message, I really meant
to type "MNKKN MAYC" (and the "N"s should still be backwards). Of
course, you all figured that out, right?
--Byron "He knew he'd screw it up" Erickson
to type "MNKKN MAYC" (and the "N"s should still be backwards). Of
course, you all figured that out, right?
--Byron "He knew he'd screw it up" Erickson