Here's a new trivia question I've just thought of (has it been discussed
before?): How many Duck stories take place in or around Washington, D. C?
All I can think of are these two:
"History Tossed" (descriptive title) by Barks, inside front cover of U$ 19:
Scrooge is at the spot in Virginia where George Washington threw a silver
dollar across the Potomac and recreates that feat.
"The Life of of Scrooge part 10" by Rosa: In 1902, when Scrooge comes to
Duckburg, President Theodore Roosevelt thinks Scrooge is a foreign invader
and travels to Duckburg with the Rough Riders. The outside of the White
House and the Oval Office are shown in a few panels.
I doubt we'll see Washington in any "present-day" Rosa story. It would be to
hard to explain why the Kennedy Center has disappeared and a bald guy called
"Ike" is president!
--Jonathan Markoff
Author
Topic: 199612
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Markoff
D. C. Ducks
Message 31 -
1996-12-03 at 23:53:59
Harald Havas
No funny header this time
Message 32 -
1996-12-04 at 00:02:14
WILMER
> The object's momentum is zero, and so it stops. But only for an in-
> stant, because it immediately falls back down the shaft, and the
> cycle repeats. Since there's no friction, this will continue forever.
Hmmm... so you finally found an earthly "semper mobile" or how this
thing is called... my head's to dizzy now to remember.
>Rudolph, the Red, knows rain, dear.
Nice one - but Rudolph is hardly a common name in Russia. Maybe the
story took place in East Berlin? Or Rudolph was the son of German or
Austrian dissidents of the 30ies? On second thought - let's just keep
it where it is (I guess all this talk about the realism of "Universal
Solvent"....)
Harald
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> The object's momentum is zero, and so it stops. But only for an in-
> stant, because it immediately falls back down the shaft, and the
> cycle repeats. Since there's no friction, this will continue forever.
Hmmm... so you finally found an earthly "semper mobile" or how this
thing is called... my head's to dizzy now to remember.
>Rudolph, the Red, knows rain, dear.
Nice one - but Rudolph is hardly a common name in Russia. Maybe the
story took place in East Berlin? Or Rudolph was the son of German or
Austrian dissidents of the 30ies? On second thought - let's just keep
it where it is (I guess all this talk about the realism of "Universal
Solvent"....)
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
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Deckerd
D. C. Ducks
Message 33 -
1996-12-04 at 00:15:36
On Dec 3, 4:53pm, markoff wrote:
> Subject: D. C. Ducks
> "The Life of of Scrooge part 10" by Rosa: In 1902, when Scrooge comes
to
> Duckburg, President Theodore Roosevelt thinks Scrooge is a foreign
invader
> and travels to Duckburg with the Rough Riders. The outside of the
White
> House and the Oval Office are shown in a few panels.
>
I just read a book on the Roosevelt clan (both Teddy and
Franklin sides), and it struck me that Don Rosa really
did his research for Life of Scrooge. For most Presidents,
the idea of personally leading an armed assault is a bit
far-fetched. Teddy, on the other hand... He'd led the
San Juan Hill charge not many years before he was President,
and even after he was out of the White House, he was
pestering President Wilson for permission to lead a volunteer
force to go to Europe and fight in World War I. If any
sitting President would have led an assault on Fort Duckburg,
Teddy was the one. Don mentioned Teddy's South American
expedition, though...probably one of TR's worst ideas.
It was not well-planned and Teddy nearly died in the jungle
before it was over; only the heroism of his son Kermit got
him out alive, and even then the malaria TR caught apparently
contributed to his relatively early death at about 60 in
1919. (The bad luck was compounded by the fact that a healthy
Teddy might have been elected president again in 1920.) It
might be interesting to see what Don would do with another
meeting of Scrooge and Teddy, if the two globetrotters' paths
should intersect in the years between 1908 and 1919... Only
Teddy would be feeling left out of things and useless by then,
while Scrooge's star would be rising.
Incidentally, the Roosevelt family saga is fascinating for its
own sake. The Franklin kids were an uninspiring bunch; the boys
were usually mixed up with one shady business deal or another.
The Teddy kids had the problem of living up to the old man, who
was a hard act to follow. A couple died as war heroes, but the
above-mentioned Kermit, who started out promisingly and proved
himself a hero in the jungle, fell afoul of alcohol in later
life and finally committed suicide in World War II.
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: D. C. Ducks
> "The Life of of Scrooge part 10" by Rosa: In 1902, when Scrooge comes
to
> Duckburg, President Theodore Roosevelt thinks Scrooge is a foreign
invader
> and travels to Duckburg with the Rough Riders. The outside of the
White
> House and the Oval Office are shown in a few panels.
>
I just read a book on the Roosevelt clan (both Teddy and
Franklin sides), and it struck me that Don Rosa really
did his research for Life of Scrooge. For most Presidents,
the idea of personally leading an armed assault is a bit
far-fetched. Teddy, on the other hand... He'd led the
San Juan Hill charge not many years before he was President,
and even after he was out of the White House, he was
pestering President Wilson for permission to lead a volunteer
force to go to Europe and fight in World War I. If any
sitting President would have led an assault on Fort Duckburg,
Teddy was the one. Don mentioned Teddy's South American
expedition, though...probably one of TR's worst ideas.
It was not well-planned and Teddy nearly died in the jungle
before it was over; only the heroism of his son Kermit got
him out alive, and even then the malaria TR caught apparently
contributed to his relatively early death at about 60 in
1919. (The bad luck was compounded by the fact that a healthy
Teddy might have been elected president again in 1920.) It
might be interesting to see what Don would do with another
meeting of Scrooge and Teddy, if the two globetrotters' paths
should intersect in the years between 1908 and 1919... Only
Teddy would be feeling left out of things and useless by then,
while Scrooge's star would be rising.
Incidentally, the Roosevelt family saga is fascinating for its
own sake. The Franklin kids were an uninspiring bunch; the boys
were usually mixed up with one shady business deal or another.
The Teddy kids had the problem of living up to the old man, who
was a hard act to follow. A couple died as war heroes, but the
above-mentioned Kermit, who started out promisingly and proved
himself a hero in the jungle, fell afoul of alcohol in later
life and finally committed suicide in World War II.
--Dwight Decker
Wilmer Rivers
D.C. Ducks
Message 34 -
1996-12-04 at 00:35:30
Jonathan Markoff writes about Duck stories set in Washington, D.C:
> "History Tossed" (descriptive title) by Barks, inside front cover of
> U$ 19: Scrooge is at the spot in Virginia where George Washington
> threw a silver dollar across the Potomac and recreates that feat.
>
Just for the benefit of European List members who may have seen pictures
of the Potomac River, or the river itself, and who are wondering how
George Washington could have thrown a dollar across such a wide body
of water: he didn't. The story is a popular misconception. When he
was a youth, Washington lived on the banks of the **Rhappahanock**
River, and he threw a dollar across it, to demonstrate his strength.
That river (at least where Washington lived) is much narrower than the
Potomac (where Washington eventually ended up, building his estate
"Mount Vernon" on its banks).
And on the subject of D.C. Ducks, let me dig out a little blurb that
I posted here some 3 years ago:
> Some years ago the "Washington Post" devoted an editorial to Disney
> fandom, and on the basis of some data provided in selected stories
> they reached the conclusion that Duckburg in fact coincides with
> Washington, D.C. As they put it (I'm paraphrasing from memory),
> "This means that Duckburg is - here. Although others may scoff, we
> feel that this explains a variety of local phenomena."
>
Can any Donaldists speculate on how one would reach such a conclusion
about the geographic location of Duckburg? I recall that it had to do
with the expressed or implied distance of Duckburg from somewhere else,
coupled with the fact that it snows in Duckburg (eliminating some other
possible US cities as the site of Duckburg).
Wilmer Rivers
> "History Tossed" (descriptive title) by Barks, inside front cover of
> U$ 19: Scrooge is at the spot in Virginia where George Washington
> threw a silver dollar across the Potomac and recreates that feat.
>
Just for the benefit of European List members who may have seen pictures
of the Potomac River, or the river itself, and who are wondering how
George Washington could have thrown a dollar across such a wide body
of water: he didn't. The story is a popular misconception. When he
was a youth, Washington lived on the banks of the **Rhappahanock**
River, and he threw a dollar across it, to demonstrate his strength.
That river (at least where Washington lived) is much narrower than the
Potomac (where Washington eventually ended up, building his estate
"Mount Vernon" on its banks).
And on the subject of D.C. Ducks, let me dig out a little blurb that
I posted here some 3 years ago:
> Some years ago the "Washington Post" devoted an editorial to Disney
> fandom, and on the basis of some data provided in selected stories
> they reached the conclusion that Duckburg in fact coincides with
> Washington, D.C. As they put it (I'm paraphrasing from memory),
> "This means that Duckburg is - here. Although others may scoff, we
> feel that this explains a variety of local phenomena."
>
Can any Donaldists speculate on how one would reach such a conclusion
about the geographic location of Duckburg? I recall that it had to do
with the expressed or implied distance of Duckburg from somewhere else,
coupled with the fact that it snows in Duckburg (eliminating some other
possible US cities as the site of Duckburg).
Wilmer Rivers
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #269
Message 35 -
1996-12-04 at 01:15:01
ARTHUR:
re: "A Matter of Some Gravity" -- I make mistakes, but you haven't found any
in that story. In the first instance, I purposely left out the shadows of
the Ducks since it would have visually conflicted with the glass breaking,
falling, and shattering on the floor below where $crooge is stamping on the
picture-frame. I'm very shadow-aware, and I think it's very rare that (or
if) I've ever accidentally left out a shadow.
In the second instance, note that there are tree branches on both wings AND
the tail fins. I did not intend that the previous panel had shown 100% of
what the plane had hit while flying close to the ground.
But keep looking for errors so I can change them when you find 'em!
I got some private e-mail today from someone who said I had an error in "The
Once and Future Duck" when I had a Briton say "Thee can say that again", as
it should be "thou". But look at my seedy-looking barbarian Britons! Who sez
they were supposed to be speaking GOOD English?! (This is an example of a
the sort of mistake that there is 100 different ways to wheedle an
explanation around.)
WILMER... or ?:
Was it you who said that one of my alternate titles for "Universal Solvent"
was "Down, Down, Down"? Where did you get this idea? In our early
correspondence about that story or something? I have no memory of that, and
it doesn't sound like one of my modern titles. Perhaps it's one you suggested?
What's odd is -- you've read where I've stated that I did versions of that
story as a youth? I did numerous sequels to my own stories in those days
(I've ALWAYS liked sequels), and my origial version of that story was
actually a sequel to a story I did where my heroes first find the vertical
shaft to the earth's core, but didn't try to climb down it until the sequel.
Anyway, my very first story dealing with that earth-core-shaft which I
wrote/drew circa 1959 was "Down, Down, Down". Hm.
re: "A Matter of Some Gravity" -- I make mistakes, but you haven't found any
in that story. In the first instance, I purposely left out the shadows of
the Ducks since it would have visually conflicted with the glass breaking,
falling, and shattering on the floor below where $crooge is stamping on the
picture-frame. I'm very shadow-aware, and I think it's very rare that (or
if) I've ever accidentally left out a shadow.
In the second instance, note that there are tree branches on both wings AND
the tail fins. I did not intend that the previous panel had shown 100% of
what the plane had hit while flying close to the ground.
But keep looking for errors so I can change them when you find 'em!
I got some private e-mail today from someone who said I had an error in "The
Once and Future Duck" when I had a Briton say "Thee can say that again", as
it should be "thou". But look at my seedy-looking barbarian Britons! Who sez
they were supposed to be speaking GOOD English?! (This is an example of a
the sort of mistake that there is 100 different ways to wheedle an
explanation around.)
WILMER... or ?:
Was it you who said that one of my alternate titles for "Universal Solvent"
was "Down, Down, Down"? Where did you get this idea? In our early
correspondence about that story or something? I have no memory of that, and
it doesn't sound like one of my modern titles. Perhaps it's one you suggested?
What's odd is -- you've read where I've stated that I did versions of that
story as a youth? I did numerous sequels to my own stories in those days
(I've ALWAYS liked sequels), and my origial version of that story was
actually a sequel to a story I did where my heroes first find the vertical
shaft to the earth's core, but didn't try to climb down it until the sequel.
Anyway, my very first story dealing with that earth-core-shaft which I
wrote/drew circa 1959 was "Down, Down, Down". Hm.
Shaun M. Knowler
Gladstone returned to glory!
Message 36 -
1996-12-04 at 01:30:38
HURRAH! GLOSSY COVERS FOR GLADSTONE! and letter columns too!
GARY:
How much will the books cost in Canada after the improvement?
-Shaun
GARY:
How much will the books cost in Canada after the improvement?
-Shaun
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V96 #269
Message 37 -
1996-12-04 at 11:35:03
GARY:
> Here's how a Disney approved, uncensored CBL would have been possible:
> Bruce Hamilton buys Disney in, say, 1976.
This is, of course highly unlikely. On the other hand, given the low interest
Disney seem to have in the Ducks, how about:
Bruce Hamilton/Egmont/YouNameIt buys the rights to Scrooge and Donald in 1997?
(An arrangement where Disney would get to keep the rights to the DD shorts,
and would be allowed to use the Ducks in certain contexts (e.g., Disneyland)
for free, might actually be attainable.)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"An atomic laser... is that better than an axe?"
-----
> Here's how a Disney approved, uncensored CBL would have been possible:
> Bruce Hamilton buys Disney in, say, 1976.
This is, of course highly unlikely. On the other hand, given the low interest
Disney seem to have in the Ducks, how about:
Bruce Hamilton/Egmont/YouNameIt buys the rights to Scrooge and Donald in 1997?
(An arrangement where Disney would get to keep the rights to the DD shorts,
and would be allowed to use the Ducks in certain contexts (e.g., Disneyland)
for free, might actually be attainable.)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"An atomic laser... is that better than an axe?"
-----
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Letters columns
Message 38 -
1996-12-04 at 20:07:23
GARY:
Hallelujah! Glad to hear the letters columns are coming back.
And even better, I can e-mail mine in! Yippee!
So, do you want letters for last month's issues, too?
And does this mean the newsletter is defunct? Or just not doing letters
columns anymore? Or will it be running the "leftovers"?
-Augie, with a lot of questions for a guy from New Jersey
P.S. I liked the little "beg"s for letters. =)
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
(Email removed)
http://www.nic.com/~augie/two/two.htm
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Hallelujah! Glad to hear the letters columns are coming back.
And even better, I can e-mail mine in! Yippee!
So, do you want letters for last month's issues, too?
And does this mean the newsletter is defunct? Or just not doing letters
columns anymore? Or will it be running the "leftovers"?
-Augie, with a lot of questions for a guy from New Jersey
P.S. I liked the little "beg"s for letters. =)
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
(Email removed)
http://www.nic.com/~augie/two/two.htm
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Jan Lund Thomsen
Disney comics Digest V96 #245
Message 39 -
1996-12-05 at 01:11:50
(My previous posting of this looked like gobblygook, so I thought I'd ditch the
MIME-encoding and try again.)
DON:
> You can't put a talking penguin into a Mickey Mouse story anymore
>than you could drop one into the middle of a Superman story or an issue of
>your Leonardo da Vinci comic. Penguins don't talk. You might personally
>think it's fun to do, but it does not "work well" when the reader, assuming
>he's familiar with the Donald Duck or Superman "universe", must stop
>abruptly and wonder why penguins have suddenly gained powers of intelligence
>and speech.
Don, first I must congratulate you on your brave attempt to cover up what has
come to be known as "The Penguin Affair". On the other hand I feel that the
truth must be known. Although I can not reveal my sources for security reasons,
I hereby make the following publicly available:
=== FILE: penguin.txt
=== Date: 68-06-09
=== Ref: Scarpa and Cimino, "Mickey meets Doctor Neutron"
I-654A (entry code JB 19i)
=== Status: classified
Despite what common folk have been led to believe, a number of penguins *are*
intelligent and even have the powers of speech as well. Back in the old days
these, at the time, normal animals - indistinguishable from their southern
cousins lived on the North Pole. That is until a bunch of vikings ravaged the
lands. A small number of penguins escaped by hiding in a crevasse that led them
to a previously unknown subterranean land. Here they lived in peace, and
through the discovery of "Ultra-Ice" ( a rare substance with many a use ) they
slowly developed intelligence as we know it. At a later time they discovered
the world around them, by means of huge whale-like submarines - they observed
us, learned about our world, and even picked up our language by watching old
gangster movies on television. All was well until a human scientist named
Doctor Neutron happened to crash his research-vessel on the pole, and by
accident discovered the Ultra-Ice. After the doctor returned home, he foolishly
told the world about his amazing discovery. Unfortunately, the penguins were
watching CNN at the time and decided something had to be done in order to
protect their secret from getting known. Kasper, a top-notch agent and a
captain of the Peguvian Fleet was sent to Duckburg to foil the doctors plans.
After Kasper had mailed the doctor a number of notes threatening him to stop
his research, the scientist hid with a resident of the city - one Mickey Mouse.
After getting dangerously close to the truth Kasper wisely brought back both
Mickey and Neutron. The doctor had no troubles with this confinement, in fact
he was more than happy to teach our scientist about western methods.
After an experiment (led by Neutron) went horribly wrong the penguins were
forced to evacuate their subterranean kingdom. Instead of choosing to live with
the rest of civilization, they instead travelled to the South Pole where they
were welcomed with open flippers by the native population. They have been
living there in peace ever since.
Agent's addendum: Throughout history man has been known for his intellect and
his quest for knowledge. All this, just from an opposable thumb and thousands
of years of developement. Yet at the same time, we must ask ourselves if our
compulsary quest for the truth has gone too far? Did these fully sentient
creatures deserve to have their worlds crushed by our notion of "progress"? Who
are we to pass judment onto others? ... Let us forget this case, but let us not
forget what it's outcome has learned us: some affairs are best left untouched.
===
=== Case closed
===
--- Jan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
MIME-encoding and try again.)
DON:
> You can't put a talking penguin into a Mickey Mouse story anymore
>than you could drop one into the middle of a Superman story or an issue of
>your Leonardo da Vinci comic. Penguins don't talk. You might personally
>think it's fun to do, but it does not "work well" when the reader, assuming
>he's familiar with the Donald Duck or Superman "universe", must stop
>abruptly and wonder why penguins have suddenly gained powers of intelligence
>and speech.
Don, first I must congratulate you on your brave attempt to cover up what has
come to be known as "The Penguin Affair". On the other hand I feel that the
truth must be known. Although I can not reveal my sources for security reasons,
I hereby make the following publicly available:
=== FILE: penguin.txt
=== Date: 68-06-09
=== Ref: Scarpa and Cimino, "Mickey meets Doctor Neutron"
I-654A (entry code JB 19i)
=== Status: classified
Despite what common folk have been led to believe, a number of penguins *are*
intelligent and even have the powers of speech as well. Back in the old days
these, at the time, normal animals - indistinguishable from their southern
cousins lived on the North Pole. That is until a bunch of vikings ravaged the
lands. A small number of penguins escaped by hiding in a crevasse that led them
to a previously unknown subterranean land. Here they lived in peace, and
through the discovery of "Ultra-Ice" ( a rare substance with many a use ) they
slowly developed intelligence as we know it. At a later time they discovered
the world around them, by means of huge whale-like submarines - they observed
us, learned about our world, and even picked up our language by watching old
gangster movies on television. All was well until a human scientist named
Doctor Neutron happened to crash his research-vessel on the pole, and by
accident discovered the Ultra-Ice. After the doctor returned home, he foolishly
told the world about his amazing discovery. Unfortunately, the penguins were
watching CNN at the time and decided something had to be done in order to
protect their secret from getting known. Kasper, a top-notch agent and a
captain of the Peguvian Fleet was sent to Duckburg to foil the doctors plans.
After Kasper had mailed the doctor a number of notes threatening him to stop
his research, the scientist hid with a resident of the city - one Mickey Mouse.
After getting dangerously close to the truth Kasper wisely brought back both
Mickey and Neutron. The doctor had no troubles with this confinement, in fact
he was more than happy to teach our scientist about western methods.
After an experiment (led by Neutron) went horribly wrong the penguins were
forced to evacuate their subterranean kingdom. Instead of choosing to live with
the rest of civilization, they instead travelled to the South Pole where they
were welcomed with open flippers by the native population. They have been
living there in peace ever since.
Agent's addendum: Throughout history man has been known for his intellect and
his quest for knowledge. All this, just from an opposable thumb and thousands
of years of developement. Yet at the same time, we must ask ourselves if our
compulsary quest for the truth has gone too far? Did these fully sentient
creatures deserve to have their worlds crushed by our notion of "progress"? Who
are we to pass judment onto others? ... Let us forget this case, but let us not
forget what it's outcome has learned us: some affairs are best left untouched.
===
=== Case closed
===
--- Jan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
Juergen Gebhardt
Something fishy in CBL, Set X
Message 40 -
1996-12-05 at 01:24:08
GARY:
At the time when I got my copy of set X of the CBL I was a little bit vexed
when I noticed the blueish cover reproductions but your account of your
deadline problems puts things in perspective.
Can you now also reveal the joker who scrawled the crayfish and the jellyfish
into panel 9, page 8 of WDC 255, and the fish skeleton and the waterplant
into panel 6, page 8 of WDC 276? Those were not in the original publications
of these stories and don't look as if drawn by Barks.
At the time when I got my copy of set X of the CBL I was a little bit vexed
when I noticed the blueish cover reproductions but your account of your
deadline problems puts things in perspective.
Can you now also reveal the joker who scrawled the crayfish and the jellyfish
into panel 9, page 8 of WDC 255, and the fish skeleton and the waterplant
into panel 6, page 8 of WDC 276? Those were not in the original publications
of these stories and don't look as if drawn by Barks.
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #270
Message 41 -
1996-12-05 at 02:11:47
SHAUN:
>How much will the books cost in Canada after the improvement?
$2.75
AUGIE:
>Hallelujah! Glad to hear the letters columns are coming back.
>So, do you want letters for last month's issues, too?
Yes.
>And does this mean the newsletter is defunct?
Yes.
Gary
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"Frogs? I don't get it."
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>How much will the books cost in Canada after the improvement?
$2.75
AUGIE:
>Hallelujah! Glad to hear the letters columns are coming back.
>So, do you want letters for last month's issues, too?
Yes.
>And does this mean the newsletter is defunct?
Yes.
Gary
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"Frogs? I don't get it."
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Daniel C. Kenny
Disney comics Digest V96 #270
Message 42 -
1996-12-05 at 05:22:33
Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't written for so long, but I was home in NY for
Thanksgiving and my e-mail is connected here at college. Anyway, I won't evn
begin to comment on ALL the digests that I have missed. Here's just a few
samplings
GLADSTONE
While at home, I got the new issue of WDC&S ( I forget the number, but it's the
one with Christmas on Bear Mountain). Once again, great issue, but I was a
little dissapointed with the inclusion of "Bear Mountain". I mean, this story
has seen so many reprints in recent years, I wish we could have seen a Barks
holiday ten pager or a firestone giveaway, but then again, I also understand
the popularity of this story, especially after chapter 12 of Lo$. Also, twenty
pages is pretty hefty to devote to one story, especially if we only see a
frustrating 8 pages of Don Rosa's stories each issue.
One person in the lettercol requested that you reformat the Mickey strips and
increase the number of chapters. PLEASE DON'T DO THIS. It's bad enough we
have to spend three months on one story, especially if it's one that has
already been printed recently. Could you like Jonathan said reprint an Eega
Beeva story, or some of the other lesser known ones from the late forties.
This isn't characteristic of me, but I wasn't too crazy about "The Once and
Future Duck" (No offense Don, I hope!). While I liked the inclusion of the
celtic Arthur, I really missed $crooge. I don't think the adventure stories
really work without him. Well, I still have one more chapter to go. I must
say it is great learning about how these stories started out as Pertwillaby
episodes. I wish we could see a fifty-sixty page duck story. Don, I know
this is a question from someone that knows nothing of your story requirements,
but would it be possible to do a long serialized story? Since your stories
exist in three part versions, would it be possible to make them six parts? I
guess not, and I'm sure this question has already been asked several times.
But you can't blame a guy for hoping!
"Paleduck warriors are the greatest. Are the muchest and the mostest. In this
deed they shall live forever in the hearts of the Peeweegahs'"
-That quote has been running through my head for a while. Wanted to share this
infliction with you guys! =)
Dan
Thanksgiving and my e-mail is connected here at college. Anyway, I won't evn
begin to comment on ALL the digests that I have missed. Here's just a few
samplings
GLADSTONE
While at home, I got the new issue of WDC&S ( I forget the number, but it's the
one with Christmas on Bear Mountain). Once again, great issue, but I was a
little dissapointed with the inclusion of "Bear Mountain". I mean, this story
has seen so many reprints in recent years, I wish we could have seen a Barks
holiday ten pager or a firestone giveaway, but then again, I also understand
the popularity of this story, especially after chapter 12 of Lo$. Also, twenty
pages is pretty hefty to devote to one story, especially if we only see a
frustrating 8 pages of Don Rosa's stories each issue.
One person in the lettercol requested that you reformat the Mickey strips and
increase the number of chapters. PLEASE DON'T DO THIS. It's bad enough we
have to spend three months on one story, especially if it's one that has
already been printed recently. Could you like Jonathan said reprint an Eega
Beeva story, or some of the other lesser known ones from the late forties.
This isn't characteristic of me, but I wasn't too crazy about "The Once and
Future Duck" (No offense Don, I hope!). While I liked the inclusion of the
celtic Arthur, I really missed $crooge. I don't think the adventure stories
really work without him. Well, I still have one more chapter to go. I must
say it is great learning about how these stories started out as Pertwillaby
episodes. I wish we could see a fifty-sixty page duck story. Don, I know
this is a question from someone that knows nothing of your story requirements,
but would it be possible to do a long serialized story? Since your stories
exist in three part versions, would it be possible to make them six parts? I
guess not, and I'm sure this question has already been asked several times.
But you can't blame a guy for hoping!
"Paleduck warriors are the greatest. Are the muchest and the mostest. In this
deed they shall live forever in the hearts of the Peeweegahs'"
-That quote has been running through my head for a while. Wanted to share this
infliction with you guys! =)
Dan
Markoff
WDC&S 607
Message 43 -
1996-12-05 at 07:19:36
Hi all!
I (finally) just got WDC&S 607! Following are my various comments. I feel
the issue was somewhat of a mixed bag, like all recent WDC&S issues seem to
have been (sadly).
First of all, I liked the Barks wraparound painted cover. I'd never figured
out why Gladstone prints these so much--until I read the price tag list at
the end of "A Meeting of Legends". "Number 401" is one of my favorite Van
Horn stories of recent, although he seems to be slipping.=20
GLADSTONE:
Could you print some longer ones of his in, say, Donald Duck Adventures?
Also, are there any unprinted WVH stories with Scrooge? BTW, speaking of Van
Horns, I've heard a lot about Noel Van Horn's Mickey stories but have never
seen them. Could you get to those?
I liked the article about Daan Jippes (That's what he looks like? Yikes!) as
well as his "Maple Sugar Time." The conclusion of "The Phantom Blot" was
great (tell me Mickey Mouse is a greeting-card-cute character after that!),
although I'd still rather have two large-print strips a page than a
microscopic three. It was good to see Jack Bradbury MM art as well as
Gottfredson, but there are better Bradbury stories out there than "It's a
Snap." The Goofy and Scamp one-pagers were too small to gripe about,
although the one-pagers I'd prefer to see are MM Sunday gags from Floyd
Gottfredson, Manuel Gonzales, and Bill Wright. "The Comic Stip Artist's Kit"
seemed a waste of seven pages (which could have been used to make "Phantom
Blot" into big print!), but I'll try to learn from it what I can, as the
text advised.
Last but not least is "The Once and Future Duck"! I would have preferred
better lettering, no serialization, and an appearance of Scrooge, but the
story still shone through. It had the great moments I always expect from KDR
(I loved the first-draft sketch achieving the "time-machine effect"), and
the inclusion of the authentic, uncensored, superstitious, paganistic,
historical Arthur (rather than the "idealized" medieval version depicted by
Malory etc.) failed to diasappoint my expectations of geographic
believability in Rosa's stories. I can hardly wait for part two! (This story
actually vaguely resembles the DuckTales episode "Sir Gyro de Gearloose,"
which was filled with clich=E9s and gag names like "King Artie" and=
"Quackalot.")
GLADSTONE:
Weren't you originally planning to entitle this story "Stranded in Time"?
What happened? Anyhow, "The Once and Future Duck" is a more obvious and
appropriate title.
BTW, it's bad enough we have to have three-part serials in a
soon-to-be-$6.95 comic, but having them overlap riles me altogether special.
Just as we readers are finishing one, we have to keep the ball rolling for
yet another cycle. What I wouldn't give to see the second self-contained
WDC&S issue in three years! (600 was the first.) And they say Marvel has
story continuity to the point of unbearability!
DON:
Why isn't Scrooge in "TOaFD"? Some contractural arrangement between you and
Egmont? I notice you don't seem happy in the story with that setup, and seem
to be trying to turn Donald into Scrooge by having him talk about "big
money" in a Scroogian fashion on several occasions. (You've probably
explained this a zillion times over, but I never read discussions about
stories I haven't read.)
DANIEL KENNY:
I haven't got WDC&S 608, but I read your comment about "Christmas on Bear
Mountain." My thoughts exactly! It's great stuff, but I've seen it before.
My heart sank a few months ago when the issue's contents were announced on
the list. A year ago, I was ecstatic to learn that WDC&S had gone
giant-size, but I feel the purpose has been defeated. (GLADSTONE: Are you
still listening?) From my viewpoint the ideal WDC&S is this: a Donald
ten-pager at the start, about half the book devoted to Mickey, and the
"showcase" characters in between: Lil Bad Wolf, Bucky Bug, Brer Rabbit, Chip
& Dale, etc., who cannot "fit in" with the other Gladstone titles. Now, a
minimum of 18 pages of Ducks is in each issue, and 8 pages that is a serial
chapter! IMHO, it is insane to serialize a story in a 64-page at all comic
unless the story is a minimum of, say, 40 pages. 8-page-a-piece serials are
for the "Penny Pincher" 16-page series. Not to mention all the
adverstisements (and comics like "The Truth About Mother Goose") thinly
disguised as documentary articles like "The Year That Was." But I'm still
going to stand by and hope Gladstone shapes up, although I may be a fool for
doing so.
On a similar subject, you have complained about WDC&S using serials
previously printed in Mickey Mouse in Color. Remember that there are many of
us, myself included, who cannot afford that costly book. I don't even know
if you can find it anywhere now. That is why I was glad to see "The Phantom
Blot" reprinted, and "The Mail Pilot" forthcoming. However, I don't feel
that all those stories are necessarily good. I thought the "Rumplewatt the
Giant" story was rather silly, and "Blaggard Castle" seemed rushed in some
places and sometimes underdeveloped. So I hope Gladstone follows your
suggestion and prints previously unreprinted stories. I'll take Eega Beeva
any day!
GLADSTONE:
About the return of slick covers to your comics: is good paper on the way?
To tell the truth, if we had a choice between only either slick covers or
good paper, good paper would be my choice without hesitation.
--Jonathan Markoff
"Forsooth! Off with his head!"
I (finally) just got WDC&S 607! Following are my various comments. I feel
the issue was somewhat of a mixed bag, like all recent WDC&S issues seem to
have been (sadly).
First of all, I liked the Barks wraparound painted cover. I'd never figured
out why Gladstone prints these so much--until I read the price tag list at
the end of "A Meeting of Legends". "Number 401" is one of my favorite Van
Horn stories of recent, although he seems to be slipping.=20
GLADSTONE:
Could you print some longer ones of his in, say, Donald Duck Adventures?
Also, are there any unprinted WVH stories with Scrooge? BTW, speaking of Van
Horns, I've heard a lot about Noel Van Horn's Mickey stories but have never
seen them. Could you get to those?
I liked the article about Daan Jippes (That's what he looks like? Yikes!) as
well as his "Maple Sugar Time." The conclusion of "The Phantom Blot" was
great (tell me Mickey Mouse is a greeting-card-cute character after that!),
although I'd still rather have two large-print strips a page than a
microscopic three. It was good to see Jack Bradbury MM art as well as
Gottfredson, but there are better Bradbury stories out there than "It's a
Snap." The Goofy and Scamp one-pagers were too small to gripe about,
although the one-pagers I'd prefer to see are MM Sunday gags from Floyd
Gottfredson, Manuel Gonzales, and Bill Wright. "The Comic Stip Artist's Kit"
seemed a waste of seven pages (which could have been used to make "Phantom
Blot" into big print!), but I'll try to learn from it what I can, as the
text advised.
Last but not least is "The Once and Future Duck"! I would have preferred
better lettering, no serialization, and an appearance of Scrooge, but the
story still shone through. It had the great moments I always expect from KDR
(I loved the first-draft sketch achieving the "time-machine effect"), and
the inclusion of the authentic, uncensored, superstitious, paganistic,
historical Arthur (rather than the "idealized" medieval version depicted by
Malory etc.) failed to diasappoint my expectations of geographic
believability in Rosa's stories. I can hardly wait for part two! (This story
actually vaguely resembles the DuckTales episode "Sir Gyro de Gearloose,"
which was filled with clich=E9s and gag names like "King Artie" and=
"Quackalot.")
GLADSTONE:
Weren't you originally planning to entitle this story "Stranded in Time"?
What happened? Anyhow, "The Once and Future Duck" is a more obvious and
appropriate title.
BTW, it's bad enough we have to have three-part serials in a
soon-to-be-$6.95 comic, but having them overlap riles me altogether special.
Just as we readers are finishing one, we have to keep the ball rolling for
yet another cycle. What I wouldn't give to see the second self-contained
WDC&S issue in three years! (600 was the first.) And they say Marvel has
story continuity to the point of unbearability!
DON:
Why isn't Scrooge in "TOaFD"? Some contractural arrangement between you and
Egmont? I notice you don't seem happy in the story with that setup, and seem
to be trying to turn Donald into Scrooge by having him talk about "big
money" in a Scroogian fashion on several occasions. (You've probably
explained this a zillion times over, but I never read discussions about
stories I haven't read.)
DANIEL KENNY:
I haven't got WDC&S 608, but I read your comment about "Christmas on Bear
Mountain." My thoughts exactly! It's great stuff, but I've seen it before.
My heart sank a few months ago when the issue's contents were announced on
the list. A year ago, I was ecstatic to learn that WDC&S had gone
giant-size, but I feel the purpose has been defeated. (GLADSTONE: Are you
still listening?) From my viewpoint the ideal WDC&S is this: a Donald
ten-pager at the start, about half the book devoted to Mickey, and the
"showcase" characters in between: Lil Bad Wolf, Bucky Bug, Brer Rabbit, Chip
& Dale, etc., who cannot "fit in" with the other Gladstone titles. Now, a
minimum of 18 pages of Ducks is in each issue, and 8 pages that is a serial
chapter! IMHO, it is insane to serialize a story in a 64-page at all comic
unless the story is a minimum of, say, 40 pages. 8-page-a-piece serials are
for the "Penny Pincher" 16-page series. Not to mention all the
adverstisements (and comics like "The Truth About Mother Goose") thinly
disguised as documentary articles like "The Year That Was." But I'm still
going to stand by and hope Gladstone shapes up, although I may be a fool for
doing so.
On a similar subject, you have complained about WDC&S using serials
previously printed in Mickey Mouse in Color. Remember that there are many of
us, myself included, who cannot afford that costly book. I don't even know
if you can find it anywhere now. That is why I was glad to see "The Phantom
Blot" reprinted, and "The Mail Pilot" forthcoming. However, I don't feel
that all those stories are necessarily good. I thought the "Rumplewatt the
Giant" story was rather silly, and "Blaggard Castle" seemed rushed in some
places and sometimes underdeveloped. So I hope Gladstone follows your
suggestion and prints previously unreprinted stories. I'll take Eega Beeva
any day!
GLADSTONE:
About the return of slick covers to your comics: is good paper on the way?
To tell the truth, if we had a choice between only either slick covers or
good paper, good paper would be my choice without hesitation.
--Jonathan Markoff
"Forsooth! Off with his head!"
Bill Wormstedt
Don's errors
Message 44 -
1996-12-05 at 08:38:51
Don said:
>But keep looking for errors so I can change them when you find 'em!
Don't forget the stern docking bridge! :)
And only the top deck had lifeboats.
I'll stop here, so things don't 'sink' any lower! (I think I'm getting
obsessive!)
--
Bill Wormstedt
(Email removed)
>But keep looking for errors so I can change them when you find 'em!
Don't forget the stern docking bridge! :)
And only the top deck had lifeboats.
I'll stop here, so things don't 'sink' any lower! (I think I'm getting
obsessive!)
--
Bill Wormstedt
(Email removed)
Mike Schneiderath
German Rosa Albums now with comments
Message 45 -
1996-12-05 at 12:19:03
Hi!
Now finally the German distributors of the Don Rosa Albums have
managed to include some comments from Don to the stories.
The just released 11th issue (56 pages) features
1. Return to plain awfull
2. On a silver platter and
3. On stolen time
DON:
Have you made short comments (decriptions) on your stories especially
for the German series ? (Or did they just used other sources...?)
....and many thanks for your interesting reply on those Perwillaby
stories
GLADSTONE:
I realize that Gladstone is not that big as other publishers, but I
was quite astonished as I got the 4 Don Rosa Albums. Especially
the 3rd one was obviously smaller in height and had a diffrent
(smaller) Lettering on the back (the back that you see if you put in on a
shelf).
So if you put all 4 together it really doesn t look as if
there belong together. Did this happen by mistake or have I just
one too small issue ?
And even the other three issues differ in the back lettering and
placing of the titel.
I am really not complaining ( I really like them :-)
but I am wondering if it is so
difficult to make those Albums a little more lookalike ?
MIKE
Now finally the German distributors of the Don Rosa Albums have
managed to include some comments from Don to the stories.
The just released 11th issue (56 pages) features
1. Return to plain awfull
2. On a silver platter and
3. On stolen time
DON:
Have you made short comments (decriptions) on your stories especially
for the German series ? (Or did they just used other sources...?)
....and many thanks for your interesting reply on those Perwillaby
stories
GLADSTONE:
I realize that Gladstone is not that big as other publishers, but I
was quite astonished as I got the 4 Don Rosa Albums. Especially
the 3rd one was obviously smaller in height and had a diffrent
(smaller) Lettering on the back (the back that you see if you put in on a
shelf).
So if you put all 4 together it really doesn t look as if
there belong together. Did this happen by mistake or have I just
one too small issue ?
And even the other three issues differ in the back lettering and
placing of the titel.
I am really not complaining ( I really like them :-)
but I am wondering if it is so
difficult to make those Albums a little more lookalike ?
MIKE