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Daniel C. Kenny
AUGIE
>When else was it last "recently" reprinted? I've only been reading Duck
>comics for about 6 or 8 years now. Maybe my definition is looser?

Well, I know "Bear Mountain" was published by the Disney company in Donald Duck
adventures back when they published the books. I remember getting the book
when I was in seventh grade, so that would have to place it in the Christmas of
1990. I don't know if you consider that " a recent publication". Actually, if
it wasn't published in CBliC (which it had to be, of course) I probably
wouldn't be complaining. It's that in the past six years, the story's seen
reprinting three times. There are plenty of other Barks holiday stories that
have been kept on dusty shelves too long. But I do see your point. BTW, how
did "Bear Mountain measure up to your expectations from Lo$ 12?
I do have to disagree with you on one point. The serailization of the Rosa
stories. Sure, I'm another one who gets a little frustrated when I read for
two minutes and then finish the chapter. But if complete Rosa stories started
appearing every month or even every other month, we'd catch up very soon ( I
don't know how many Don has written. If the index is up to date, then we've
seen almost all of his stories except for about five or six). In other words,
we'd be done very soon, and then we'd have to wait between issues to get new
stories. Not too mention the fact that some of his stories are going to appaer
in USA and DDA. I don't know about you, but the Rosa stories are what's been
drawing me back to WDC&S (Just to give you a hint, I purchased one issue
between 1990 and 1995. Now I get every one.) And I've accepted it as a staple
of the book. Let's try to keep this staple around as long as possible. Plus,
three part serials do let us see some truly memorable cliffhangers (like part 2
of Universal Solvent).

DANNY C.
Yup, you can't beat a good name like Daniel. Many times, I feel like I'm
adressing myself. How's that for schizoid maneuvering?

DON
You're right. Despite how much I like $crooge, it's great to see some of the
other charcters get some notice. That's why "The duck who never was" is one of
my favorite stories: we see the whole Duck clan together in one story. I feel
the same way about Gus Goose's appearance in "the Universal Solvent". That's
why I think I would love a story where someone like Grandma or Gus played a
significant role (outside of their farm lives) and see some action.
Killing off one nephew? Actually, Gottfredson once got rid of one of the Mickey
nephews. He had planned to write him off by saying Ferdie had gone to boarding
school. But he never got aroud to that explanation and Ferdie just
disappeared. Of course, I am in NO WAYS suggesting a solution to the nephew
problem. NO NO NO. Huey, Dewey and Louie are too well known and endearing (as
compared to Morty and Ferdie) to ever become "huey and Louie". It would be
like having "Chip and Nobody else".

On the other hand, maybe two of the nephews could kill their brother to keep
him quiet about what *really* happened to their parents. Ha, ha. Firecracker,
shmirecracker! Those boys were murderers ever from the beginning!

well, back to final examinations. See ya

Dan K
David Gerstein
AUGIE:
"Christmas on Bear Mountain" was last reprinted in the regular
comics in 1990 (in Disney Comics' DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES 9).

OLE:
> Also in the issue another 10 pager, this time with Mickey and the
>other Van Horn, Noel.I suspect the script is one of Davids, as it
>costars Minnie, Bad Pete and Sylvester Shyster.
Yep! It's "The Cavern in the Shifting Sands" (D 95122). And
actually, that's Eli Squinch in the story, not Sylvester Shyster. As with
Rockerduck and Flintheart Glomgold, some translators seem to confuse these
two villains now and then, so if a translator has called Squinch by the
local name for Sylvester Shyster, it wouldn't surprise me. (I've seen it
done in German.)
The ironic thing is that I originally wrote this story with
Shyster, not Squinch, but he was _drawn_ as Squinch, so we had to
retroactively change the script to match. This seems to work at first, but
it looks odd to see retirement-age Squinch wanting to marry Minnie! It's
Shyster (maybe 35 years old) who really wants to do that.
> Somehow this story makes the threats on Mickey's life believable for once.
[SPOILER ALERT]
I was forced by the thread of the story to have the villains
leaving Mickey tied up, as has happened in a lot of stories in the past. I
figured it might be more thrilling if Minnie turned to Mickey -- sure that
he'd have a solution to the problem -- and he didn't have one, because the
excitement over the treasure had distracted him. It just struck me as more
real somehow.
I'm honored that you liked the way I did it!
> One question, if David or anyone recognize the story, what are the
>lyrics of the song about the dune? The translation doesn't explain
>why they should be as offensive as they appear to be?
The song isn't about a dune in my original story. It's just an old
standard, "I'm a Ding Dong Daddy from Dumas/you oughtta see me do my
stuff." Mickey occasionally sang it in the strip around 1932. The only
thing that's so offensive about it is that for a trick, Mickey shocks
Minnie by singing it loudly right into her ears from behind!
[END OF SPOILERS]

David Gerstein

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SRoweCanoe
Don Rosa on tv?
Can anyone give me a list of what animated cartoon that Don wrote? (for
some reason I think Don did a Talespin) and then what videotape or laserdisc
collection it might have been collected in. I ask because I see a few of the
laserdisc collections have been cut out; thus lowering the price to my range.

Gladstones shopping
I order all my Gladstones in advance through a direct market mail order
company. occasionaly I'd like to pick up an album on impulse; however none
of the comic book stores that I go to carry them , or any Gladstones. (I
only see regular Gladstones at Books-A-Million and other newstands. When
Marvel distributed them, I saw them at some of the drug and grocery stores.
Not any more).
Does or would the Gladstone website list retailers that might carry a
full range of Gladstone material? (I was tempted to say product).

Steven Rowe
Augie De Blieck Jr.
DAN K:

> Well, I know "Bear Mountain" was published by the Disney company in Donald Duck
> adventures back when they published the books.

Yep. David seems to have clarified. Shame I wasn't buying Donald at that
point. =( I used to buy solely Uncle $crooge back then.

> I don't know if you consider that " a recent publication". Actually, if

For purposes of the discussion, I guess it would be recent enough.

> reprinting three times. There are plenty of other Barks holiday stories that
> have been kept on dusty shelves too long.

And I wish Gladstone would reprint that beautiful story Bob Miller did for
Disney back then, with painted art. I forget the title and issue, but it
was a great story.

> But I do see your point. BTW, how
> did "Bear Mountain measure up to your expectations from Lo$ 12?

Well, yeah I guess. It's been so long since I've read Lo$ 12... I'll have
to do that now, too, I guess. Good story in its own right, though. $crooge
likes testing his relatives, doesn't he?

> I do have to disagree with you on one point. The serailization of the Rosa
> stories.

I don't think they should print a complete Rosa story every month, don't
get me wrong. I think one a quarter or so would be fine. That would
guarantee big sellers for those comics. Then let's make Gladstone work to
earn my dollars -- find something else special to put in the other issues.
I don't know what -- just something. Maybe even Rosa reprints from his
early works.

> I don't know about you, but the Rosa stories are what's been
> drawing me back to WDC&S (Just to give you a hint, I purchased one issue
> between 1990 and 1995. Now I get every one.) And I've accepted it as a staple

We're about the same, then. But I like Van Horn's work, too, so I enjoy
WDC&S for that now. But it isn't enough in and of itself to get me to buy
a book. The new $7 price really is making me reevaluate my position on
this book. It's getting out of hand.

> of the book. Let's try to keep this staple around as long as possible. Plus,
> three part serials do let us see some truly memorable cliffhangers (like part 2
> of Universal Solvent).

I haven't read a single Rosa story since PART 1 of Universal Solvent. I've
refused to read the story unless I have all the parts together now. So I'm
reading Rosa on a quarterly basis at this point. Besides that, the
lettering is so hideous, it can often make the art look bad.

Lastly, does your school have a quota on your e-mail? You may start
bouncing these digests in a couple of weeks if it does!

DAVID:

> "Christmas on Bear Mountain" was last reprinted in the regular
> comics in 1990 (in Disney Comics' DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES 9).

Thanks for the clarification!

STEVEN:

> Can anyone give me a list of what animated cartoon that Don wrote? (for

He did write a couple of TaleSpin episodes. I think it's in his bio on he
web site. I forget the titles, to tell you the truth.

-Augie, misses TaleSpin, neat show
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
Hi!

Here's a message I got from Kare of which I think it was meant for the
list and not only to me.

Greetings,

--- Daniel

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From: (Email removed) (Kare)
To: Daniel van Eijmeren <(Email removed)>
Subject: Re: Changes in the Carl Barks Library
Date sent: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 15:08:38 GMT

On 22 Nov 1996 13:39:36 +0100, in fa.disney-comics you wrote:

>Hi!
>
>Here's an update for the article on Per's web-page and ftp-site.
>
>CHANGES

GLADSTONE:The Carl Barks Library of Donald Duck Adventures in Color
issue 2, there was a story called "The Mummy's Ring". In earlier
publications tree of the pages was redrawn, because they were
distroid. But in this issue they were restored by computers.
In the redrawn pages; the nephew's jowls had disapeard, while minor
details was added: a bump on the cresent moon in one panel and a tiny
seagul in another. Barks editors belived that readers wouldent notice.

( Sorry about my English )

Greetings from Lillesand, Norway.

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Daniel C. Kenny
Hi everyone. No comments today. Actually, I just wanted to let you all know
that I won't be contributing to the list (or seeing any of them) for about a
month. My winter break at college has arrived, and since my e-mail is
connected thru school, I won't be able to receive e-mail until I get back. I'm
already picturing the 30 or so digests lying in my inbox when I get back!
Anyway, so don't think I've abandoned this list or anything. I'll be back.
Also, just wanted to wish everyone on this list a happy holiday season. See
you all later

Dan K

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Greg Wright
Mornin' All,

I just finished reading the first part of "The Once and Future Duck" and
noticed that Dewey(?) holds the Junior Woodchucks Guide Book open for Donald
to look at, also enabling us to see the page. Is this the first time that we
have ever been able to see the inside of the Guide Book? I can't remember
any other time myself, but I'm constantly amazed by the list members
abilities to remember details like this.

Strikes me as a major first, if it is.

Greg Wright
http://www.ows.com.au
"Enthusiasm is the greatest asset in the world. It beats money and power and
influence" - Henry Chester
Jan Lund Thomsen
Daniel C:

>Actually, while we're on the subject of the Rosa albums, there's a question I'd
>like to address that I have failed to do for some time. Will there EVER be a
>possiblity of seeing Lo$ in one complete volume? Four albums isn't much of a
>difference from twelve issues. But one definitive volume is something I know
>most Duck fans would love to get their hands on, no matter how many times I
>have read it beforehand. Besides, it would be fun to see a Gladstone album
>longer than 68 pages (nowadays, the USA only clock in at around 30-40 pages!)

I found the following in the December 1996 Star System catalog:

[...]

Uncle Scrooge McDuck: His life and times SC ... $34.95
------------------------------------------------------
Twelve full-length adventures (completely recolored) starring everyone's
favorite multi-megabuck waterfowl. As a special bonus, this edition also
includes a brand-new Carl Barks story, written and illustrated exclusively for
this release. 9x12,376pg,FC

[...]

Does anyone know what Barks story they're talking about? Personally, I don't
think I am going to purchase yet another Lo$ reprint just to get the Barks
story. This will be the fourth reprint available to me, and I drew the line at
getting the Danish and US magazine versions.

--- Jan

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C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
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Danny Coenen
HARALD:
Well, if you really consider ALL Disney comic books as reliable sources
for doing research, you?d probably come up with dozens of different
locations for Duckburg. If you, like many people do, consider only the
Barks stories as reality, you should come up with a location somewhere
at the WEST coast of the USA (although it really can?t be opn this planet,
if you take a look at the physics in Barks? stories). That makes sense,
if you consider that Duckburg is placed at an ocean, close to a desert
and a mountain range. If you like to read more about this stuff, there
has been a really good article published on this topic in DER DONALDIST
90.
If I am not totally wrong Don?s version of Duckburg is placed at the west
coast as well.

Danny Coenen
Danny Coenen
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :
(049)2461/56129
D-52428 Juelich
Germany EU e-mail :
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Hugodiaz
On Fri, 6 Dec 1996 (Email removed) wrote:

>
> I don t know English. But I have a problem, and maybe you can help me.
> I have a friend from the list, his name is John Antony Kazos Jr. and he
> lived in Virginia, but he is missing, and I dont know where is he. He is
> fan of Chip and Dale and of all the old Disney. If you know him, please
> send a mail to> (Email removed)
> For more information of John, please send me a mail.
>
>
> Thank you very much all...
> //HUGO
>

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David Gerstein
AUGIE:
>And I wish Gladstone would reprint that beautiful story Bob Miller did for
>Disney back then, with painted art. I forget the title and issue, but it
>was a great story.
The story you recall is actually by Bob Foster (not Bob Miller):
"T'is the Season" in US #251. My own opinion is that the original comic
isn't rare or hard to find, so why reprint the story? Not to say I didn't
love it. But if you were to see the excellent stories coming from Egmont
and GP now, you wouldn't want reprints of things that can still easily be
found.
For this same reason, even while I theoretically enjoy seeing
better-colored reprints of Rosa's early works (which you suggest should
appear in WDC&S), I would suggest that they should appear in albums some
time down the line, not in the regular comics now. There are just too many
good Egmont and GP stories appearing in Europe now for us to ask for
re-reprints of what's easily available... at least in my opinion. This
also goes for such great stuff as early Van Horn, Jippes, and Gottfredson
stories that have already appeared. Why should we demand them again when
we can get their 1980s printings easily and cheaply even now? (Feel free
to disagree, of course.)
Personally, I would also rather see Gladstone use new GP, Egmont,
and Italian stories than reprints of non-Barks Whitman Duck stories from
the 1960s and 1970s. Maybe that's just me, though.

JAN LUND:
The book you mention is Celestial Arts' 1987 collection of Barks
stories. It has very nice coloring by Peter Ledger (in a very different --
but no less impressive -- style than that in the Gladstone albums). The
featured stories include uncensored versions of "Land of the Pygmy Indians"
and "Island in the Sky." And it's hard to beat that 1987 price, which
seems to stick with the book even tho' it must be in its umpteenth printing
by now.
The new story (actually not so new anymore!) is "Go Slowly Sands of
Time," not in Vicar's version but illustrated with Barks watercolors and
told in picture-book form. It was actually done for an early limited
edition of this Celestial Arts book in 1981. Very nice paintings, although
the ducks look yellow in a few (otherwise very nice) scenes.

GLADSTONE:
Gary, when you have the chance, maybe you can pass Geoff Blum my
praise for the excellent "Gallery of Grotesques" compilation/study in
Scrooge Album 14.

David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>

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Don Rosa
GREG WRIGHT:
Hm. I did have a nephew showing Donald a page of the Guidebook... and after
me being the first one to claim that the Guidebook is strictly for
Jr.Woodchuck eyes only. Well, I just needed a visual image of Stonehenge at
that point. Donald is not being shown any text, and certainly not being
shown any information that is exclusive to the Guidebook.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Hi!

With many thanks to Barry Branvold, I now have the original end of Barks'
story "Donald Duck's Atom Bomb". The original art of the story hasn't
seen the light of day since it's first print in the 40's in a give-away
comic. The art which is available now is a redrawn version by Daan Jippes.

Another problem with the story is that the ending is now censored, in the
CBL the cash-register is for example replaced by "free samples".

If you want to see the original ending and it's original Barks art, then
check out the picture-gallery on Arthur de Wolf's web-page (picture 23).

The adress is: www.pi.net/~wolfman

Please realize that the scan is limited in it's quality to reduce the time
needed for downloading it. A real good scan even makes it possible to
filter out the colours. At the shop were I made the scan, a quick attempt
to do this was shown to me. It looked promising, to say the least.

Greetings,

--- Daniel

"Hooray! I'm cured! My mind doesn't hurt anymore!"

The Mad Musician, OG 11 --- Carl Barks
Shaun M. Knowler
JAN:
The $34.95 book you described was NOT "The Life and Times of $crooge
McDuck" by Don Rosa. It is a book printing something like 12 classic Barks
stories, and the "new" story is "Go Slowly, Sands of Time", illustrated in
storybook form by Barks watercolor paintings. Notice how the titles are
very similar, but different. It is a very nice book though! I bought it
a coupla summers ago. The only difference is that it cost me $56.00!
Christer Hanssen
Jan Lund:
>Uncle Scrooge McDuck: His life and times SC ... $34.95
>------------------------------------------------------
> Twelve full-length adventures (completely recolored) starring everyone's
>favorite multi-megabuck waterfowl. As a special bonus, this edition also
>includes a brand-new Carl Barks story, written and illustrated exclusively for
>this release. 9x12,376pg,FC
>
>[...]
>
>Does anyone know what Barks story they're talking about? Personally, I don't
>think I am going to purchase yet another Lo$ reprint just to get the Barks
>story. This will be the fourth reprint available to me, and I drew the line at
>getting the Danish and US magazine versions.

This is not Lo$, but a Carl Barks collection with Barks stories and Barks
comments. The book was first printed in 1981 I think. For the new Barks
story, it's "Go slowly, sands of times" written in 1968, drawn in 1980 and
now published in this book. So it won't be another Rosa collection, but a
Barks collection.

~Christer - "There he goes - trying to get out of his share of work!"
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