DANIEL:
About 200 of Barks's original pages are known to exist still. A Finn
called Matti Eronen has made a book about this, titled "Carl Barks'
Surviving Comic Book Art". It was still available for exanple from Bud
Plant's latest catalog for $24.95. The book examines in detail the
existing pages and also includes a brief Carl Barks biography and
bibliography.
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Author
Topic: 199612
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Jyrki Vainio
Surviving Barks Art
Message 91 -
1996-12-16 at 13:54:33
OTA
Disney comics Digest V96 #277
Message 92 -
1996-12-16 at 14:03:40
GARY LEACH, 02-12-1996, wrote:
>...or isn't it possible to reprint a story with a comic-book as
> original? (What does an editor need to be able to reprint a story?)
Gary, to publish or reprint a story an editor needs the films (positive
or negative) or a B&W source to make new films. That B&W source can be
the original art or a proof done from the original plates. Western did
several sets of proofs for send to the foreign publishers. All
publishers did it.
In the past, comics were printed in a different system than today. Now
everything is printed in offset but in the past comics printing was like
newspapwer printing (most newspapers use offset today).
Western printed a lot of proofs and kept some for future requests from
publishers. I'm not sure if they kept the cliches or plates, but
generally those were reccycled by most printers after printing. Western
always archived everything, but I dunno if the plates were kept, but
sure they had a big stock of proofs.
However, when such proofs are not available and the original art was
lost, the only way is to find a fair source to re-photograph it to do
new films and color separations. And that's the main problem.
Today we can digitalize and store everything in HDs and Zipdrives, but
in the past scanners weren't invented yet, so the only reproduction
available is the printed comic itself. And alas, it's hard to extract
the black set from a 4-color print... it requests specific technology,
and the final result is never the same than photograph it from the
original art or a fair proof.
For example, to do the DC COMICS ARCHIVES deluxe books, DC Comics had to
destroy some copies from their files... and some of those comics were
worth thousands of dollars in mint condition!! If my memory doesn't
betrays me this process is called "theakstonizing" -- a guy named
Theakston or something like that invented it. Theakston put the printed
comics in a bathub with chemicals that erased the red, blue and yellow
printing, thus giving him a new b&w proof. From that source they did the
new color work.
Anyway it's very hard extract the black from a color print. I am a
comics editor and I know how hard it is. It's never the same than taking
it from the original artwork or a b&w proof...
Btw please note that, athough I am a subscriber to this list I don't
have time to read all lists. I keep all them, but a heavy work schedule
doesn't allows me to read everything as it was my wish... so if you or
something else have more specifical questions about similar subjects,
please e-mail me to (Email removed) to warn me... the mail adress on the
list (Email removed) is still valid but all messages are
forwarded to the (Email removed) mailbox.
If someone among the DComics subscribers knows Portuguese you can have
some fun visiting my page at
http://www.kanopus.com.br/~ota
(English version not yet available). I'm doing some animations visible
with Netscape 2 up or Explorer 3 and a new kind of animated comics. Most
are understandable in any language.
bye!!!
>...or isn't it possible to reprint a story with a comic-book as
> original? (What does an editor need to be able to reprint a story?)
Gary, to publish or reprint a story an editor needs the films (positive
or negative) or a B&W source to make new films. That B&W source can be
the original art or a proof done from the original plates. Western did
several sets of proofs for send to the foreign publishers. All
publishers did it.
In the past, comics were printed in a different system than today. Now
everything is printed in offset but in the past comics printing was like
newspapwer printing (most newspapers use offset today).
Western printed a lot of proofs and kept some for future requests from
publishers. I'm not sure if they kept the cliches or plates, but
generally those were reccycled by most printers after printing. Western
always archived everything, but I dunno if the plates were kept, but
sure they had a big stock of proofs.
However, when such proofs are not available and the original art was
lost, the only way is to find a fair source to re-photograph it to do
new films and color separations. And that's the main problem.
Today we can digitalize and store everything in HDs and Zipdrives, but
in the past scanners weren't invented yet, so the only reproduction
available is the printed comic itself. And alas, it's hard to extract
the black set from a 4-color print... it requests specific technology,
and the final result is never the same than photograph it from the
original art or a fair proof.
For example, to do the DC COMICS ARCHIVES deluxe books, DC Comics had to
destroy some copies from their files... and some of those comics were
worth thousands of dollars in mint condition!! If my memory doesn't
betrays me this process is called "theakstonizing" -- a guy named
Theakston or something like that invented it. Theakston put the printed
comics in a bathub with chemicals that erased the red, blue and yellow
printing, thus giving him a new b&w proof. From that source they did the
new color work.
Anyway it's very hard extract the black from a color print. I am a
comics editor and I know how hard it is. It's never the same than taking
it from the original artwork or a b&w proof...
Btw please note that, athough I am a subscriber to this list I don't
have time to read all lists. I keep all them, but a heavy work schedule
doesn't allows me to read everything as it was my wish... so if you or
something else have more specifical questions about similar subjects,
please e-mail me to (Email removed) to warn me... the mail adress on the
list (Email removed) is still valid but all messages are
forwarded to the (Email removed) mailbox.
If someone among the DComics subscribers knows Portuguese you can have
some fun visiting my page at
http://www.kanopus.com.br/~ota
(English version not yet available). I'm doing some animations visible
with Netscape 2 up or Explorer 3 and a new kind of animated comics. Most
are understandable in any language.
bye!!!
Per Starback
HDL Duck (Was: Zio Paperone # 87 - Duck Family Tree!!!)
Message 93 -
1996-12-16 at 14:14:32
About Huey, Dewey, and Louie having "Duck" as a surname.
That's not something to argue about. It's a fact, as it has appeared
in Barks stories. Sometimes it's not clear if a name "Duck" or the
word "duck" is present, as in "Duck Brothers have cat that sings grand
opera in six languages, including Siamese!" (newspaper in WDC 152),
but there are clear cases, like "First prize of five dollars goes to
the wire-walking team of Huey, Louie, and Dewey Duck!" (WDC 49).
Probably "Duck" is a very common name, as several have guessed. (Or
maybe Donald really adopted HDL at one time when it was clear that
they would live with him for good, and they then officially took *his*
name? Nah, probably not.)
That's not something to argue about. It's a fact, as it has appeared
in Barks stories. Sometimes it's not clear if a name "Duck" or the
word "duck" is present, as in "Duck Brothers have cat that sings grand
opera in six languages, including Siamese!" (newspaper in WDC 152),
but there are clear cases, like "First prize of five dollars goes to
the wire-walking team of Huey, Louie, and Dewey Duck!" (WDC 49).
Probably "Duck" is a very common name, as several have guessed. (Or
maybe Donald really adopted HDL at one time when it was clear that
they would live with him for good, and they then officially took *his*
name? Nah, probably not.)
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics Digest V96 #275
Message 94 -
1996-12-16 at 15:45:06
DAVID:
> The story you recall is actually by Bob Foster (not Bob Miller):
Whoops. Yeah, I made the same mistake on CompuServe. David Seidman
corrected me there. I'm getting my Warner Bros. and Disney people mixed up
all of a sudden. =)
> "T'is the Season" in US #251. My own opinion is that the original comic
> isn't rare or hard to find, so why reprint the story?
I think it's hard to find. I think it's hard to find just about any Disney
back issue, short of going to a convention or odering through Gladstone, in
which case you often end up paying double the price.
> There are just too many
> good Egmont and GP stories appearing in Europe now for us to ask for
> re-reprints of what's easily available... at least in my opinion.
Mayhaps, but if Gladstone wants to print one Don Rosa story over the course
of three issues for the sake of having the "Rosa draw" every month, why
not publish three consecutive full-length stores? I think it is a bigger waste
to divide Don's stories into thirds than to reprint some which were "only"
printed 10 (!) years ago. (This is half a lifetime ago, already, David!)
> Personally, I would also rather see Gladstone use new GP, Egmont,
> and Italian stories than reprints of non-Barks Whitman Duck stories from
> the 1960s and 1970s. Maybe that's just me, though.
I would whole-heartedly agree with you there, I think. Some of those 60s
and 70s stories are just awful-looking. If I wasn't sure if I was going tro
buy a Gladstone comic and just flipped through one on the rack and saw Tony
Strobl art, I think I wouldn't buy it.
-Augie, never received this digest originally
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
(Email removed)
http://www.nic.com/~augie/two/two.htm
> The story you recall is actually by Bob Foster (not Bob Miller):
Whoops. Yeah, I made the same mistake on CompuServe. David Seidman
corrected me there. I'm getting my Warner Bros. and Disney people mixed up
all of a sudden. =)
> "T'is the Season" in US #251. My own opinion is that the original comic
> isn't rare or hard to find, so why reprint the story?
I think it's hard to find. I think it's hard to find just about any Disney
back issue, short of going to a convention or odering through Gladstone, in
which case you often end up paying double the price.
> There are just too many
> good Egmont and GP stories appearing in Europe now for us to ask for
> re-reprints of what's easily available... at least in my opinion.
Mayhaps, but if Gladstone wants to print one Don Rosa story over the course
of three issues for the sake of having the "Rosa draw" every month, why
not publish three consecutive full-length stores? I think it is a bigger waste
to divide Don's stories into thirds than to reprint some which were "only"
printed 10 (!) years ago. (This is half a lifetime ago, already, David!)
> Personally, I would also rather see Gladstone use new GP, Egmont,
> and Italian stories than reprints of non-Barks Whitman Duck stories from
> the 1960s and 1970s. Maybe that's just me, though.
I would whole-heartedly agree with you there, I think. Some of those 60s
and 70s stories are just awful-looking. If I wasn't sure if I was going tro
buy a Gladstone comic and just flipped through one on the rack and saw Tony
Strobl art, I think I wouldn't buy it.
-Augie, never received this digest originally
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
(Email removed)
http://www.nic.com/~augie/two/two.htm
Procm
Disney comics Digest V96 #275
Message 95 -
1996-12-16 at 18:37:23
what are the chances of rosa coming to the midwest
Procm
Disney comics Digest V96 #275
Message 96 -
1996-12-16 at 18:52:02
Ya I was wondering when dona rosa was coming to a convention in the midwest?
On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 (Email removed) wrote:
> On Dec 16, 10:37am, (Email removed) wrote:
> > Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #275
> > what are the chances of rosa coming to the midwest
> >
> The smart-aleck reply is 100%. (He's already there.)
> Oh -- you meant, when will he make a personal appearance
> at some convention or other function near wherever it is
> in the Midwest you are...? He'll have to answer that one.
>
> --Dwight Decker
>
On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 (Email removed) wrote:
> On Dec 16, 10:37am, (Email removed) wrote:
> > Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #275
> > what are the chances of rosa coming to the midwest
> >
> The smart-aleck reply is 100%. (He's already there.)
> Oh -- you meant, when will he make a personal appearance
> at some convention or other function near wherever it is
> in the Midwest you are...? He'll have to answer that one.
>
> --Dwight Decker
>
Deckerd
Disney comics Digest V96 #275
Message 97 -
1996-12-16 at 19:11:13
On Dec 16, 10:37am, (Email removed) wrote:
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #275
> what are the chances of rosa coming to the midwest
>
The smart-aleck reply is 100%. (He's already there.)
Oh -- you meant, when will he make a personal appearance
at some convention or other function near wherever it is
in the Midwest you are...? He'll have to answer that one.
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #275
> what are the chances of rosa coming to the midwest
>
The smart-aleck reply is 100%. (He's already there.)
Oh -- you meant, when will he make a personal appearance
at some convention or other function near wherever it is
in the Midwest you are...? He'll have to answer that one.
--Dwight Decker
Per Starback
Disney comics Digest V96 #275
Message 98 -
1996-12-16 at 19:21:48
I'm sorry about the lost #275. I've resent it now.
> Disney comics Digest Volume 96 : Issue 274
^^^
Argh! I forgot to update the issue number is this manually
constructed digest! I hope I didn't goof up in any other way.
I don't know what happened by the way. There may sometimes be other
technical problems as well. The mailer at strindberg has been known
to sometimes lose some configuration data and return messages saying
"There is a local configuration error. The hostname is not
recognized as local."
(This is for all addresses, and not something particular to this
mailing list.) Restarting Sendmail then will take care of the
problem, but neither I nor the system administrator here know why this
happens. So, if you get that bounce message I have no other remedy
but to wait a while and then try again, hoping that someone here has
noticed and taken care of it.
> Disney comics Digest Volume 96 : Issue 274
^^^
Argh! I forgot to update the issue number is this manually
constructed digest! I hope I didn't goof up in any other way.
I don't know what happened by the way. There may sometimes be other
technical problems as well. The mailer at strindberg has been known
to sometimes lose some configuration data and return messages saying
"There is a local configuration error. The hostname is not
recognized as local."
(This is for all addresses, and not something particular to this
mailing list.) Restarting Sendmail then will take care of the
problem, but neither I nor the system administrator here know why this
happens. So, if you get that bounce message I have no other remedy
but to wait a while and then try again, hoping that someone here has
noticed and taken care of it.
Fluks
Harald, Daniel, Dave, Jan
Message 99 -
1996-12-16 at 20:52:55
Hello all!
I have been cut off from the world (i.e. my internet address) for the
past two weeks, but I *think* I'm back now. Here are some replies to
digests #263 through #274.
HARALD:
> So what you actually mean is that "jij" is formal AND plural? 'Caus I
> cant see Scrooge being formal to his nephews..
"jij" is the Dutch equivalent for "du", while "u" == "Sie". But unlike
the Germans, we don't call every family member "jij". That's why the
nephews say "u" to Scrooge, while Scrooge calls them "jij" (or in
fact "jullie", which is the plural of "jij". "Jullie" literally means
"you people").
DANIEL VAN E.:
> Computer format? The way I thought/think of it, is making it in the format
> of an average encyclopedia [...]
> To give an example, here are some entries of my attempts:
> *Astorbilt, Mr.& Mrs.*
> This rich lady and gentleman are guests on Donald's jungle-party,
> which turns out to be a big flop. {WDC 91}
Some remarks on this format:
- The various parts of an entry of the Encyclopedia should be recognisable
for a computer. The example you give is OK, as long as the ** and {} are
only used to delimit the item name, and story code, respectively.
- I'd like the story code to be in the Database format, which means
{W WDC 91-02} in stead of {WDC 91}. That way, we can write programs
to refer from Encyclopedia to Database and vice versa
- The descriptions don't need to describe what actually happens in a story.
A simpler text suffices. In your example, the following would do:
*Astorbilt, Mr.& Mrs.*
Rich couple. Guests on Donald's jungle-party. {W WDC 91-02}
- I'd like to have the Dutch names in the Encyclopedia as well, like you
had them in your previous version. I like to be able to search for
Weekhart Flapperbol, without having to know his English name.
I know not all people can deliver the names in any language, but the
format of the Encyclopedia should be ready for it.
Well, that's enough remarks for now. I hope you can start this project,
which means you'll find enough volunteers to deliver the data!
> PER, are you willing/able to put such an encyclopedia on your site?
Of course he is! And if he isn't, I am!
DANIEL again:
> BTW: On the cover of WDC 290, Donald doesn't look like being done by
> Barks. Is this a case of Barks not following his own style or is the
> cover partly redrawn?
> Does the 'Dutch CBL' contain this cover? I'm curious what you think
> about it.
Yes, that cover is in the "Dutch CBL" as well. The nephews look 60s Barks.
But Donald's head looks like Barks in the early 50s. Maybe Barks tried to
please a fan by imitating his old style? (A fan? In 1964? Must be Spicer
or Willits...)
DAVE R.:
> What I imagined possible was a single "Huey, Dewey & Louie Present?"
> data-flag or field which could hold one of three states or conditions --
> 0, 1 or 2 -- which when queried would generate a relation to a given
> story record yielding "Undetermined" (the working default) or "Present"
> or "Not present"
> Thus, the only typing necessary would be a single keystroke to flag the
> presence or absence of the nephews. (The actual phrase communicated to
> the querent would be generated for each story relationally, rather than
> having been typed in each time, saving many, many thousands of
> keystrokes.)
Now I see what you mean. But I don't think the typing is the problem.
Every indexer can make up his own way of entering the data, and then
do a few edit-commands before he delivers the data to me. That's how I
do it myself. E.g. I use "@US" in stead of "[app:US]". When I'm finished
indexing, I do a "global replace" in my editor.
The problem is that the indexer has to scan every story to see if HDL are
there. And I think that's not worth the effort.
JAN LUND TH.:
> Subject: "Mickey moeder doktor Neutron"
> By the way, the index is wrong on this one. It lists Donald as the hero -
> despite the fact that he isn't even in the story. Is someone taking
> notes? :)
Yes, I'm taking notes. But... the index lists the following (based on
data by Fossati):
I 654-A 37 3 RCi RSc DD P e la cometa atomica [fantascienza]
I 654-B 29 3 ABa RSc MM T e la caccia a chiss? cosa [avventura gialla]
Could it be that the Danish pocket book (JB 19) had the wrong story code?
That's enough for now...
--Harry.
File volume96/275 is currently not available.
N.B. Filenames are case sensitive!
I have been cut off from the world (i.e. my internet address) for the
past two weeks, but I *think* I'm back now. Here are some replies to
digests #263 through #274.
HARALD:
> So what you actually mean is that "jij" is formal AND plural? 'Caus I
> cant see Scrooge being formal to his nephews..
"jij" is the Dutch equivalent for "du", while "u" == "Sie". But unlike
the Germans, we don't call every family member "jij". That's why the
nephews say "u" to Scrooge, while Scrooge calls them "jij" (or in
fact "jullie", which is the plural of "jij". "Jullie" literally means
"you people").
DANIEL VAN E.:
> Computer format? The way I thought/think of it, is making it in the format
> of an average encyclopedia [...]
> To give an example, here are some entries of my attempts:
> *Astorbilt, Mr.& Mrs.*
> This rich lady and gentleman are guests on Donald's jungle-party,
> which turns out to be a big flop. {WDC 91}
Some remarks on this format:
- The various parts of an entry of the Encyclopedia should be recognisable
for a computer. The example you give is OK, as long as the ** and {} are
only used to delimit the item name, and story code, respectively.
- I'd like the story code to be in the Database format, which means
{W WDC 91-02} in stead of {WDC 91}. That way, we can write programs
to refer from Encyclopedia to Database and vice versa
- The descriptions don't need to describe what actually happens in a story.
A simpler text suffices. In your example, the following would do:
*Astorbilt, Mr.& Mrs.*
Rich couple. Guests on Donald's jungle-party. {W WDC 91-02}
- I'd like to have the Dutch names in the Encyclopedia as well, like you
had them in your previous version. I like to be able to search for
Weekhart Flapperbol, without having to know his English name.
I know not all people can deliver the names in any language, but the
format of the Encyclopedia should be ready for it.
Well, that's enough remarks for now. I hope you can start this project,
which means you'll find enough volunteers to deliver the data!
> PER, are you willing/able to put such an encyclopedia on your site?
Of course he is! And if he isn't, I am!
DANIEL again:
> BTW: On the cover of WDC 290, Donald doesn't look like being done by
> Barks. Is this a case of Barks not following his own style or is the
> cover partly redrawn?
> Does the 'Dutch CBL' contain this cover? I'm curious what you think
> about it.
Yes, that cover is in the "Dutch CBL" as well. The nephews look 60s Barks.
But Donald's head looks like Barks in the early 50s. Maybe Barks tried to
please a fan by imitating his old style? (A fan? In 1964? Must be Spicer
or Willits...)
DAVE R.:
> What I imagined possible was a single "Huey, Dewey & Louie Present?"
> data-flag or field which could hold one of three states or conditions --
> 0, 1 or 2 -- which when queried would generate a relation to a given
> story record yielding "Undetermined" (the working default) or "Present"
> or "Not present"
> Thus, the only typing necessary would be a single keystroke to flag the
> presence or absence of the nephews. (The actual phrase communicated to
> the querent would be generated for each story relationally, rather than
> having been typed in each time, saving many, many thousands of
> keystrokes.)
Now I see what you mean. But I don't think the typing is the problem.
Every indexer can make up his own way of entering the data, and then
do a few edit-commands before he delivers the data to me. That's how I
do it myself. E.g. I use "@US" in stead of "[app:US]". When I'm finished
indexing, I do a "global replace" in my editor.
The problem is that the indexer has to scan every story to see if HDL are
there. And I think that's not worth the effort.
JAN LUND TH.:
> Subject: "Mickey moeder doktor Neutron"
> By the way, the index is wrong on this one. It lists Donald as the hero -
> despite the fact that he isn't even in the story. Is someone taking
> notes? :)
Yes, I'm taking notes. But... the index lists the following (based on
data by Fossati):
I 654-A 37 3 RCi RSc DD P e la cometa atomica [fantascienza]
I 654-B 29 3 ABa RSc MM T e la caccia a chiss? cosa [avventura gialla]
Could it be that the Danish pocket book (JB 19) had the wrong story code?
That's enough for now...
--Harry.
File volume96/275 is currently not available.
N.B. Filenames are case sensitive!
RHODE
Scrooge Christmas ornament from a few years ago
Message 100 -
1996-12-16 at 22:15:01
Given that Don's a Scrooge collector, I figured I'd mention this. While
putting up my Christmas tree this weekend, I realized that we had a Scrooge
ornament. It's a white oval flattened glass ball with a Scrooge sticker
put on it. It's part of a set of 4 w/ Mickey, Goody and Pluto. I think
it's probably about 10 years old now. The set was made in Columbia for
Kurt Adler, Inc. #GC 670. Given the Christmas ornament collectors, perhaps
this is still findable.
Mike Rhode
putting up my Christmas tree this weekend, I realized that we had a Scrooge
ornament. It's a white oval flattened glass ball with a Scrooge sticker
put on it. It's part of a set of 4 w/ Mickey, Goody and Pluto. I think
it's probably about 10 years old now. The set was made in Columbia for
Kurt Adler, Inc. #GC 670. Given the Christmas ornament collectors, perhaps
this is still findable.
Mike Rhode
Marc Chapman
U$ 1916 Quarter
Message 101 -
1996-12-16 at 23:54:00
I've seen some referrences to "a certain 1916 Quarter" in $crooge stories,
but I don't recall what incident is being referred to. Can anyone tell me
what story this "1916 Quarter" ordeal is in, and any recent reprints?
Thanks!
Marcus Chapman
but I don't recall what incident is being referred to. Can anyone tell me
what story this "1916 Quarter" ordeal is in, and any recent reprints?
Thanks!
Marcus Chapman
Juergen Gebhardt
D96096
Message 102 -
1996-12-17 at 00:43:30
CHRISTER:
> Does somebody know who have drawn the story "Leket=F8ys" in the norwegian
> DD&Co 50/51? The code is D96096 and the art is kind of dark and somewhat
> detailed, but not as detailed as Don Rosa's. It's about Donald becomming
> manager for a toyshop scrooge owns which has had several mystical breaking=
> ins.
I would guess that it was drawn by Scalabroni who uses a similar shading
technique.
I found the the story very unconvincing, though.
Keep on duckin'!
Juergen Gebhardt
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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #278
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> Does somebody know who have drawn the story "Leket=F8ys" in the norwegian
> DD&Co 50/51? The code is D96096 and the art is kind of dark and somewhat
> detailed, but not as detailed as Don Rosa's. It's about Donald becomming
> manager for a toyshop scrooge owns which has had several mystical breaking=
> ins.
I would guess that it was drawn by Scalabroni who uses a similar shading
technique.
I found the the story very unconvincing, though.
Keep on duckin'!
Juergen Gebhardt
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #278
******************************************
Marco Barlotti
Zio Paperone #87
Message 103 -
1996-12-17 at 00:55:15
Just a few comments on the Christmas issue of "Zio Paperone", on the
contents of which I have already reported.
I'd say the most appealing feature is Barks' Gneezles story, which, if I
remember well, appeared only once before in Italy (apart from a couple of
amatorial editions) on a special issue of the very same "Zio Paperone" eight
years ago. The story has now a new translation (on which I can't and anyway
WOULDN'T say anything!) and, more than that, a new BETTER lettering.
Branca's art is nice, er, more: is very good. On the other hand, the plot of
this "Return to Bear Mountain" is nothing special. I'd say the story is not
worth the honour place it got in this issue.
Rosa's story is better, but is a 10-pager (sorry, a 12-pager) only. A
question on this: if the title is "From Duckburg to Lillehammer", how come
the plot takes place in <Freezer City> (?) for the first 9 pages and in
<Lysgardsbakken> (so says the caption) for the last three?
Last comes Jippes'remake of "The day the mountain shook". Good art, but the
plot (Barks forgive me!) is so-so. Interesting is the idea of trying to
introduce a behaviouring difference between one nephew on one side and the
other two on the other side. Interesting, but I guess that couldn't lead
much far unless we get VERY uncanonical... (on the other hand, Barks COULD
afford being uncanonical, couldn't he?).
Maybe the most appealing feature of this issue is NEXT MONTH'S PREVIEW. We
are going to have next month two great things and a delusion. The great
things are: Don Rosa's <Return to plain awful> :-) and A LETTER COLUMN!
(more than that, since it will take two pages!). The delusion is: no
square-egg maker :-( (I must admit I was counting on it!!!).
Maybe I should immediately take profit of the letter column to ask for the
egg squarer?
Marco
contents of which I have already reported.
I'd say the most appealing feature is Barks' Gneezles story, which, if I
remember well, appeared only once before in Italy (apart from a couple of
amatorial editions) on a special issue of the very same "Zio Paperone" eight
years ago. The story has now a new translation (on which I can't and anyway
WOULDN'T say anything!) and, more than that, a new BETTER lettering.
Branca's art is nice, er, more: is very good. On the other hand, the plot of
this "Return to Bear Mountain" is nothing special. I'd say the story is not
worth the honour place it got in this issue.
Rosa's story is better, but is a 10-pager (sorry, a 12-pager) only. A
question on this: if the title is "From Duckburg to Lillehammer", how come
the plot takes place in <Freezer City> (?) for the first 9 pages and in
<Lysgardsbakken> (so says the caption) for the last three?
Last comes Jippes'remake of "The day the mountain shook". Good art, but the
plot (Barks forgive me!) is so-so. Interesting is the idea of trying to
introduce a behaviouring difference between one nephew on one side and the
other two on the other side. Interesting, but I guess that couldn't lead
much far unless we get VERY uncanonical... (on the other hand, Barks COULD
afford being uncanonical, couldn't he?).
Maybe the most appealing feature of this issue is NEXT MONTH'S PREVIEW. We
are going to have next month two great things and a delusion. The great
things are: Don Rosa's <Return to plain awful> :-) and A LETTER COLUMN!
(more than that, since it will take two pages!). The delusion is: no
square-egg maker :-( (I must admit I was counting on it!!!).
Maybe I should immediately take profit of the letter column to ask for the
egg squarer?
Marco
Juergen Gebhardt
Phooey Phorever
Message 104 -
1996-12-17 at 01:01:12
During last weekend the Donaldists here in Berlin had their annual Christmas
party. We had turkey with all the trimmings, danced the Christmas Cha Cha,
busted a pinata, carolled beneath the neighbors' windows (actually taking in
about 20,- DM), and watched two Santa Clauses duking it out, each one claiming
to be the real thing before they finally distributed the presents.
There were guests from all parts of Germany present. I told them about the
newly discovered Barks panel with a fourth nephew (see Digest #269).
I remembered that it was in story featuring Donald in competition with the
Junior Woodchucks. I thumbed through CBL,X,2 trying to find the respective
panel from memory. But instead of "Medaling Around" (WDC261) I erronously
pointed out "Beach Boy" (WDC276). And, spookily, while looking through this
story we discovered not one but *two* further appearances of all four nephews
in one panel:
WDC276 "Beach Boy" page 3, panel 7
page 5, panel 8
Keep on duckin'!
Juergen Gebhardt
party. We had turkey with all the trimmings, danced the Christmas Cha Cha,
busted a pinata, carolled beneath the neighbors' windows (actually taking in
about 20,- DM), and watched two Santa Clauses duking it out, each one claiming
to be the real thing before they finally distributed the presents.
There were guests from all parts of Germany present. I told them about the
newly discovered Barks panel with a fourth nephew (see Digest #269).
I remembered that it was in story featuring Donald in competition with the
Junior Woodchucks. I thumbed through CBL,X,2 trying to find the respective
panel from memory. But instead of "Medaling Around" (WDC261) I erronously
pointed out "Beach Boy" (WDC276). And, spookily, while looking through this
story we discovered not one but *two* further appearances of all four nephews
in one panel:
WDC276 "Beach Boy" page 3, panel 7
page 5, panel 8
Keep on duckin'!
Juergen Gebhardt
Procm
Disney comics Digest V96 #278
Message 105 -
1996-12-17 at 02:11:44
what is mr rosa address?