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Per-Erik Malmström
DON ROSA
> I also hid some other names in those story, including my editor's. Why
> should the Gladstone people want to remove such things?

Yeah, why should they want to remove BYRONER!!

> Right, and what you refer to, an e-mail address or a name (not
necessarilly
> even my own) written semi-microscopicly and hidden in an obscure panel
in
> the middle of a story is not a signature, right??

Yeah, I guess you're right.

The only duck story you've "really" signed is "War of the Wendigo",
right?? A big "DON ROSA" in the opening panel of each part must be
considered signing.

> Do you mean you *want* them to remove stuff like that hidden in a
>story?

Nope!!

>he found why the dedication was removed from that "Space Varmints"
> Splash-panel. It wasn't at the instruction of the art-director, >but it
>was
>done by someone who has the job of going through all >Egmont art,
>white-out
> in hand, and removing ALL lettering and >punctuation......

Thats probably the same guy who has (whitten)-out half the story codes
that should have appeard in the latest issues of the swedish DD.

8-) Per-Erik
SRoweCanoe
Marco wrote: <<Still worse, second strip (29th November 1939):
Donald goes to the garbage dump and takes a bagful of empty tin cans.
Carrying this bag with him he buys a ticket for a dog race, but as he walks
inside the cans rattle. Last panel: the man in charge of the dog race ties a
can to Donald's tail and sends him away throwing at him another can.
I can't understand a damn here. What is the connection between empty tin
cans and dog races? Why is the man angry at Donald? What is the funny side?>>

I don't know about the funny side, but apparently Donald was attempting to
tie tin cans to the dog's tails. A fun sport of kids of the late 19th and
early 20th century.

Steven Rowe
Per-Erik Malmström
ME
> The only duck story you've "really" signed is "War of the Wendigo",
> right?? A big "DON ROSA" in the opening panel of each part must be
> considered signing.

Sorry!!
Don told me he didn't sign that story, it was the publisher who wrote his
name in the opening panels.

Per-Erik
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Hi!

I'm terribly sorry for this off-topic mail, but can someone please inform
me how to get a DOS-based mailprogramm?

At this piont I'm using UUPC/Extended 1.12 (combined with mailbox Pegasus
Mail v3.4), but a big problem with this programm is that it very easily
says "modem failed to initialize" without any clue of why and how it can
be fixed (even for the more experienced computer-users!).

I've asked for a better DOS-programm at the computershop, but then they
look back at me with glass eyes making me wonder if DOS really did exist
or that I just a dreamt it. How come this mailing list exists for five
years while they seem to think that internet exists thanks to Windows95
and pentiums?

The reason why I ask this is that this pentium I'm using is not fully my
own and so I keep on using my old 286, which gives me the possibility to
e-mail any time I want. It works (really! with DOS and a 286!) and has
done so for the last two years that I'm a member, but I'm only getting
tired of the way UUPC/Extended gives initialization problems (without
giving a clue).

So, can someone help me finding a better programm for that? Are there
other DOS-members here? Are there other (and better) mailbox-programms
than Pegasus Mail? Please contact me in private mail.

Next mail will be about Disney comics again, I promise! ;-)

Greetings,

--- Daniel (the last DOS user?)
Rob Gibson
DON: I suppose my view is that a city that possesses the world's
greatest inventor AND the world's richest man( or duck...it is
interesting that they sometimes refer to themselves as men or as
"human", as in US 12) can transform itself into a city from the twenty
third century if it so wishes. Recall the tale "Monsterville", wherein
Gyro Gearloose does essentially that. And then transforms it back again,
when people get fed up with it.
But I agree to the extent that I enjoy stories that are educational,
and to that end it is good if they reflect the true state of the
universe and of human knowledge whenever possible. By the way, I'm new
to you and your stories. I just read my second Rosa story,
"Lost Charts of Columbus", and enjoyed it very much( at least partly
because I learned something new!). Some of those previous "discoverers"
I'd never heard of. Keep up the good work.
Rob Gibson
Cebarat
GARY LEACH wrote (to Rich Bellacera):

<<Most devoted Mickey fans have, I suspect, largely given up on Gladstone,
and how can we blame them? The worst part is, we *want* to do more Mickey,
but every time we do Mickey (as a feature, not just a backup) we get killed
in terms of sales. It's sad, depressing, and really, really unfair.
And, believe me, *cooking* lasagna day after day can get pretty old, too.
When Gladstone can get up and running on some non-Duck Disney books (never
say die!), I hope you'll be there to buy 'em.>>

It may be that the days of a regular MICKEY MOUSE title have (sob!) passed,
for whatever cultural reason, but I think Gladstone is now on the right track
with the recent Egmont Mickey stories. High-quality Mickey stories as a
regular component of WDC&S would be an acceptable substitute for the
devoutly-desired MICKEY title.

AUGIE DE BLIECK remarked, regarding my comparison of the "bin's return to
earth" scene in "Space Varmints" to a similar scene in the DuckTales" episode
"Money to Burn":
<<Once again, you are not alone. I flashed to that briefly, too. Even
scarier -
I rewatched the scene in my mind. Frame for frame from the cartoon. I
remember being agitated with that episode. Local TV news interrupted it at
the
beginning with some pointless news bulletin. =(>>

What touched you off? The similarity of the bin's touchdown to a nuclear
explosion?
I don't know, I always thought the aftermath (with the debris forming a $
sign) sort of took the edge off that...

I think it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE for anyone familiar with "DuckTales" to
read that scene and not think of the bin returning to earth at the end of
"Money to Burn." The fact that the bin lands right back on top of Killmotor
Hill is the clincher. Don did give us a view that "Money to Burn" did not,
namely, a view of the rapidly approaching Duckburg from the Ducks'
perspective. "Money to Burn" established that the bin was falling and then
showed the viewer what HD&L (and the rest of Duckburg) were seeing from the
ground. Also, in "Money to Burn," Scrooge was riding on top of the bin (a la
the Slim Pickens character in "Dr. Strangelove") rather than inside it.
Guess the bin makes a good heat shield...

-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"YEEHAA! HI-HO, SILVER DOLLAR" -- The bin-riding Scrooge, "DuckTales"
episode "Money to Burn"

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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #169
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RMorris306
Gary quoted Rob:

<< <"Christmas for Shacktown" bothered me sometimes because at the end of
that story Scrooge's entire fortune was hovering over a bottomless pit of
quicksand and could only be recovered one toy trainload at a time. Yet the
next time we see him everything is as it was, the fortune somehow
miraculously rescued and no further mention made of it.>

Yep, and just in time for his debut as the headliner in Four Color 386
("Only a Poor Old Man"). Think of how different that milestone event would
have been had Barks let himself get hung up by the concluding moments of
"Shacktown." I suppose, had he been continuity minded, he could have looked
ahead and ended "Shacktown" differently, but would we have wanted him to do
that?>>

Not at *all* hard to explain? If you'll recall, the crust over the
quicksand *was* solid enough to keep all those tons of money from
falling...it was just so delicately balanced that sending buckets down, as
the kids suggested, might have broken it. Once the train had removed a ton or
two, though, enough of the weight would've been removed so $crooge *could*
send buckets down to recover the rest more quickly.

<< <Still worse, second strip (29th November 1939): [...] Last panel: the man
in charge of the dog race ties a can to Donald's tail and sends him away
throwing at him another can. I can't understand a damn here. What is the
connection between empty tin cans and dog races? Why is the man angry at
Donald? What is the funny side?

My guess is that Donald wanted to spoil the dog race by throwing cans at the
dogs, but before he can do so he's betrayed and being thrown at himself.

Maybe it was a habit at that time to spoil a race or a game with throwing
cans, just like it now seems a habit to do so with rolls of toilet-paper?>>

I think a popular (but cruel, hence largely gone from a society much
more concerned about cruelty to animals) practical joke at the time was to
tie a tin can to a dog's tail, so the dog was faced with a constant rattling
it couldn't do anything about. Donald (far more of a practical joker then
than he was in the later strips, or Barks ever made him), may have had such a
plan.

Rich Morrissey
Frank Fabian
DON:
> (And I still need a better term than
>"cartoony-realistic" for what I mean.)
>
The drawing style of "Tintin" is normally referred to in Europe as "ligne
claire", "clear line" in English. With some reservations, this could also
be applied to Asterix.

SHAUN:
>From: (Email removed) (Shaun Craill)

I don't know if you've written before, but in any case, welcome to the
list. It's nice to see mail all the way from New Zealand!

Best regards, Frank
Shaun Craill
Augie writes in V97 #168:
I don't think I've said it yet, and for that I humbly apologize. So:

Thank-You, thank-you, thank-you to Gladstone for reprinting HIS MAJESTY
McDUCK.
One of my favourites too!
Just an observation about Scrooge feeding the pigeons outside his window; I
couldn't help but notice the bird feeders around Don and Anne's home, and in
particular the humming bird feeder positioned to be visible from Don's studio
window.
Ventnor
Hello,

I'm trying to find again some Disney stories that I used to have when I was
younger, and I was wondering whether there are any people on the list (in
Australia?) who would be interested in trading for some of the titles I'm
interested in. I have a limited number of Australian Disney titles, mostly
from the early seventies, that may be of novelty interest to overseas
collectors.

I'm particularly interested in the following stories:

The Phantom Blot "The Case of the Disappearing Diamonds"
Donald Duck "The Flying Phone Booth"
Donald Duck "The Goat with the Long Silky Hair"
Uncle Scrooge "Ghost Town Railway"
Uncle Scrooge "Gold Nugget Boat"
Uncle Scrooge "The Phantom of Notre Duck"

Editions from any English-speaking country will do!

Thanks,

David

"Mankind has not so much power to receive as the genius has power to give."

Schopenhauer
Augie De Blieck Jr.
SHAUN:

> Just an observation about Scrooge feeding the pigeons outside his window; I
> couldn't help but notice the bird feeders around Don and Anne's home, and in
> particular the humming bird feeder positioned to be visible from Don's studio
> window.

So are ypou suggesting some sort of Freudian thing whereby Don transmuted
himself into the $crooge character for but an instant? In a fanciful way,
then, Don became $crooge, as surely he must envision himself as he creates
these tales of wonderment day in and day out. Maybe this is something for he
and his psychiatrist to work through!

Quick! Call Geoffrey Blum! Have him write up an article on this for the next
reprinting of the story in album form!

(Yes, of course this is all a joke. Good to see Don drawing from his Real
Life.)

CHRIS:

> What touched you off? The similarity of the bin's touchdown to a nuclear
> explosion?

Actually, it was just the image of the bin falling towards earth through the
atmosphere kinda thing.

> I don't know, I always thought the aftermath (with the debris forming a $
> sign) sort of took the edge off that...

Well, as great a cartoon as it was, it was still a cartoon. Always go for the
sight gag in cases of clouds of smoke, didn't you know? TV Animation Writer's
Rule #17 or so. =)

> Hill is the clincher. Don did give us a view that "Money to Burn" did not,
> namely, a view of the rapidly approaching Duckburg from the Ducks'
> perspective. "Money to Burn" established that the bin was falling and then
> showed the viewer what HD&L (and the rest of Duckburg) were seeing from the
> ground.

Yes, but that's just a matter of economics. It's easier and cheaper in
animation to just have two simple viewpoints: Ducks on ground and duck in
space. Just keep intercutting between the two and the rest will work it's way
out. To get a similar view of $crooge on the money bin sighting Duckburg would
require another background painting and another angle from which to animnate
$crooge.

> Also, in "Money to Burn," Scrooge was riding on top of the bin (a la
> the Slim Pickens character in "Dr. Strangelove") rather than inside it.
> Guess the bin makes a good heat shield...

I would suggest to you that when $crooge built the money bin, he
wanted to m,ake sure it was impervious to anything. So he called his
friends at NASA and bought some used industrial strength tiles like they use on
the Space Shuttle and used that for the money bin, all anachronisms aside. =)

> "YEEHAA! HI-HO, SILVER DOLLAR" -- The bin-riding Scrooge, "DuckTales"
> episode "Money to Burn"

Now, do you remember these quotes off-hand, or do you keep a database
somewhere?

-Augie

"Pennies, nickles, quarters, dimes: Come to us while there's still
time!" - The Sirens to $crooge

"Ah-ah-ah! You are fibbing! Fibbing! Fibbing!" -That Magical Harp thingy
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Satu Tams
That Daniel's story about the Disney-trauma -lawsuit does and doesn't
sound unbelievable, first, I've gotten the impression that the
unbelievable lawsuits are very common in the USA, and secondly, in a
small town in Finland the public library refused the subscribtion of Aku
Ankka -weekly because Donald didn't wear trousers... So, there are many
ways of trying to protect the young ones from the hard world outside!
(The town did become a laugh of the year in that matter, and they learned
something from it: few years ago they published their communal report in
the form of a comicbook!)

In this week's Aku Ankka there was a Mickey story (code D 96347) where
Mickey had an argument with his neighbour about an appletree, and I tried
to find it in the database, with no luck. Does somebody know something
about the artist etc.? I don't know whether I like the story or not, but
it was interesting anyhow.

Satu
Kriton Kyrimis
DANIEL:

(Re: 'Trauma' Lawsuit)

My sister was taught at law school that you don't sue the person
responsible for your problem, but the person who can pay you the most!

On the other hand, I remember seeing a documentary about Disneyland,
where it was shown that suited actors must *always* be in character,
even when they are, e.g., going to the dressing room after the end of
their shift. Thus, I suppose that letting children realize that there are
people inside Mickey and friends might really be a cause for trauma. On
the other hand (three so far!) that woman might have seen the same
documentary that I did!
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Archaeologists should be able to get away with generalizations and guesswork
without representatives of long-dead civilizations coming along and laughing
at them."
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Jakob Soederbaum
HARRY:

> JAKOB (the one who never double-checks indexes):

Hmm, that's not entirely correct. *Is*, when I do find something somewhere
that ain't in my own index - then I want to see the thing before I decide
to index it.

> H> Disney Comics also printed the contents of that album in 3 comics,
> H> also called Donald and Scrooge.
> > Which were the covers for those three comics?
>
> Reprints of the covers for The Money Pit, Xanadu and Treasure Under Glass.

Things are beginning to clear up on this matter! So those are the three D&$
issues sold only through Walmarts, right? I've earlier heard (through
doubtfull sources) that this Rosa D&$-album I have (the one we talked about)
is one among three of the same kind. The other two should have reprinted
Barks-stories. Good thing that I don't need to bother about that anymore.
So, did you see those issues? In the D&$-album, the *original* cover for
"The Money Pit" is printed in the cover-gallery (yes, there's only a few
minor changes on the DDDA version), does the D&$ issue have the same cover,
or the same as the DDDA one?

> See http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/rosaus.htm for the complete index.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ya know why I didn't know of this? Because I don't index
reprints, 'sonny'! ;-)

TTYL!

---
/Jakob
Tobias Engel
Hi!

This may be slightly offtopic, but I hope someone can help me with this:

A friend of mine wants to open a foundation in Germany for technically
interested young people. He wants to give it the German name of Gyro
Gearloose: Düsentrieb-Stiftung (Gearloose Foundation).

Does anybody know if he has to talk to Disney in Frankfurt or to
Egmont-Ehapa in Stuttgart?

And what do you think how chances are that he will be allowed to do
this? (He just wants to use the name, no pictures or any other Disney
character involvement...)

Thanks in advance

Tobias Engel
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