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Marco Barlotti
RICH:

> Congratulations! (I don't suppose there's any way to get "Zio Paperone"
>in this country...?)
>

I guess only if I send you a copy, which can be done only if that partuclar
issue is still available, which in turn is usually not the case when I come
to speak about it in this ML :-(

BUT if enough of you tell me that they are interested, I might consider
putting a scanned copy of "Daisy's dazed days" on my WWW pages. AND if only
a few are interested, I might send you that same scanned copy as an
attachment...

and while we are discussing the subject,
FRANCOIS (welcome aboard!) :

>
>This story has the title "La graziosa temeraria" in "The Complete Carl
>Barks -- Cronologie". What was the title you decided to choose?
>

Whose <Cronologie>? Not Fossati's. He has it as #442 but just calls it
"Diario rebus di Paperina" thus describing it but not trying to translate
the original title. Aren't you confusing it with the last Duck story ever
drawn by Barks, "The Dainty Daredevil", from WALT DISNEY COMICS DIGEST 5,
11/1968 ?
There is nothing "temeraria" (daredevil) in DDD! Contrarywise...

You ask me how I translated the title. Well, badly. I knew I couldn't give
in Italian the same effect of three words sounding almost the same, and I
then I tried to find an allitterative effect, but this too was in vain (how
do you translate "days" and "Daisy" in Italian starting with the same
letter???) so at last I ended up with a literal translation of the meaning,
period. It was: "Le giornate storte di Paperina".
On the phone, Lidia referred to the page as "Le giornate papere di Paperina"
but honestly I shall not be envious if it will turn out that this has been
chosen as the best title ;-)

Now on to different subjects.

FRANCOIS again:

>
>I'm French, I'm twenty years old and I'm interested in Disney comics,
>football, mathematics...
>

I am getting more and more persuaded that there is a link between scientific
interests [Mathematics, Engeneering ;-), etc. etc.] and Duck fondness.

>
>I was told recently that the major part of this mailing list is
>American/Scandinavian,

on the Italian side however there is at least one who manages to get hold of
a large portion of the available space ;-)

Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Carey M. Furlong
Regarding a sequel to "Island in the Sky," Kriton Wrote:
>
> And possibly a nasty one: Imagine how those inhabitants of the green
> asteroid who had stayed behind would greet their impoverished cousins
> when they returned. Probably not with open arms. :-( [What's worse,
> since such a sequel would be dealing with the subject of racism--not
> to mantion identical pygmy indians, our politically correct friends at
> Disney would have a field day with their scisors, even though the story
> would be portraying racism as the evil that it is.]

Disregarding racism and fear of the word "Indian," I think we can do
better than that. How about this:

In an issue of National Geographic, Scrooge sees a picture of members of
a recently discovered tribe of Indians in Borneo. They bear a
remarkable resemblance to the Space Apaches he left on the "Island in
the Sky" asteroid. These Indians have a legend that says they came to
Earth thousands of years ago from the stars, and arrived in a golden
ship.

Scrooge's curiosity is piqued, especially about the gold, and he travels
with D and HD&L to Borneo, and after locating the tribe, find an
inscription that leads them into the jungle where they discover the
scarce remains of a wrecked space vehicle, apparently the one the
Indians used. It is not made of gold, but within the wreckage they find
references to the mother-ship that brought them to Earth: an artificial
world that can travel between the stars, but which looks like an
asteroid. It was powered from within, and in order to provide a home for
the Indians while they were in transit, was covered with grass, trees,
lakes and air. It was also said to be sealed with a thick shell of
gold.

Scrooge realizes he once visited such an asteroid while scouting
locations in space for his money bin, the same asteroid he used to save
the lives of a tribe of space Indians that resembled the ones they were
visiting on Earth. But he didn't know then about the gold.

Scrooge decides to return to the asteroid of the Space Apaches using the
space freighter he had built in "The 24-Carat Moon," so he could haul
lots of gold. On arriving he finds the Space Apaches doing well, but
realizes that to extract the gold from the shell of the asteroid, he
will have to destroy their world.

While thinking over what he should do, Scrooge finds an edifice the
Space Apaches have constructed, a non-working full-sized model of his
old Sky Fish Space Wagon, built from leaves, branches and grass. Scrooge
realizes that the Space Apaches regard him as a delivering god, have
been hoping he would return, and that to destroy their world for gold
would be unethical even for him.

Now Scrooge really begins to wonder what he should do. He would like to
relocate the Indians to Earth, mine the gold, and sell the huge space
ship/asteroid for scrap, or at least set the whole planetoid up as a
vacation resort for tourists.

Then while exploring, HD&L find ruins on the asteroid that lead to an
underground command bridge. There they find that their is no gold shell
composing the asteroid's walls after all, and that the asteroid itself
is serving as a beacon to the stars, signaling to the descendants of the
Space Apaches. They also learn that a huge 24-carat moon-sized vehicle
was used to transport members of the tribe from the asteroid to Earth
long ago, and was left in a tidally locked orbit beyond Earth's moon.

Scrooge realizes he has already acquired the 24-carat moon once located
beyond Earth's moon (in Uncle Scrooge 24), and returns instead to Space
Wheel 5, where they charge $1,000 a pint for regular. HD&L have hot
dogs, Scrooge and D have coffee.

- "Blasted kids must think I'm a whelcher!"
S. McDuck (US3 - OS 495)

"This fabulous twenty-four carat moon, for
a handful of dirt! ...Man! That's the
biggest bargain I ever heard of in all
history!" S. McDuck (US24)

Carey Furlong; Hungtington Beach, California;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
Don Rosa
GEORGE from Greece: Welcome!!!
> I know you are really busy Don but could you
> answer me one question?.Did you write the introductions for each part
> of The Life and Times of Scrooge Mc Duck especially for the magazine (the
Greek KOMIX) or
> all the magazines use the same ?

Well, actually I wrote those texts exclusively for use by Gladstone comics
when they were reprinting the "Life of $crooge". What I was momentarilly
forgetting (SILLY me!) was that ANYTHING that appears in a Gladstone Disney
comic book automatically becomes the property of Disney... and any other
licensed Disney publisher on the planet can use ANY of it, including my
texts, and there's no seeking of permission or extra payments. So, the
texts you see in KOMIX
are actually the same ones written for Gladstone. And I certainly don't
begrudge the Greeks using it... it's Disney that sets these policies, not
KOMIX. Actually, I am very PROUD to have any of my stories or texts appear
in KOMIX -- it's one of the very nicest looking and best editted Disney
comics on this planet! I especially like their other text pieces which are
very well written by the KOMIX editors! You in Greece are lucky to have
such an excellent Disney publisher! They have Disney comics for ALL types
of readers... kiddies through adult collectors. An excellent system managed
by an excellent editorial team.
Anonima Fumetti G.Goria
Sorry friends, due to en error in the Anonima Fumetti mailing list, you
received on the Disney Comics list the free update notifications of the
Anonima Fumetti's web site. It's true that in our AF web site there is a
lot of infos and news about Disney creators and comics, but our web site is
related to Comics in general, so a lot of our news could be off-topic for
some of you. For this reason we erased the Dcomics e-mail address from our
list. From now on, whoever wants to receive our Anonima Fumetti's update
notification has to write us a mail asking for it. That's all. Thanks and
Arrivederci!

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Didier Ghez
Hi,

I am planning to attend the Lucca Fair and would be glad to know who are
the other members who will attend.

Also, I am looking for someone to share my room during the three nights I=

will stay there in order to lower the cost of the stay, as well as for a
nice and cheap hotel close to the Fair. Any ideas?

Didier
Didier Ghez
Hello Francois,

Welcome to the list. So you finally made it. Congratulations.

Francois is probably the most knowledgeable collector of Disney comics in=

France. He is definitely part of the core of enthusiasts here and his
incredible indexing work will undoubtedly please many of you.

About an other subject: would anyone of you know what is happening with t=
he
Danish fanzine Carl Barks and Co? I have not seen any issue of it for a
while. Any news of Freddy Milton and Benny Bodker Nielsen who used to run=

it?

Didier =
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
FELLOW DUCKFANS:

Here follows my weekly (or so!) reminder on the Rosa survey.

A few general INSTRUCTIONS: Answer as many categories as you wish. In each
category choose at MOST THREE picks.

Send your responses to: (Email removed)

BY SEPTEMBER 15, 1997.

Here's the Questionnaire once again:

INTERNATIONAL SURVEY ON DON ROSA

NAME:
NATIONALITY:
SEX:
AGE:

1) Pick at MOST 3 covers which you consider Rosa's BEST: (*NOTE*: NOT in
order of preference. Simply what you'd consider Don's 3 BEST covers).

2) Pick at MOST 3 OPENING SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:

3) Pick at MOST 3 INTERIOR SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:

4) Pick at MOST 3 stories (of any length) which you consider Rosa's WORST:

5) Pick at MOST 3 SHORT stories (2-14 pages long) which you consider Rosa's
BEST:

6) Pick at MOST 3 LONG stories (15 pages or more) which you consider Rosa's
BEST:

7) Pick at MOST 3 "BEST/CLEVEREST" hidden D.U.C.K.s. (in covers OR Splash
panels).

8) COMMENTS:

A lucky respondent shall receive an issue of the Greek KOMIX containing a
Rosa story.

I hope you have fun filling out the above questionnaire,

Archontis
Per-Erik Malmström
DIDIER
> About an other subject: would anyone of you know what is happening with the
> Danish fanzine Carl Barks and Co? I have not seen any issue of it for a
> while. Any news of Freddy Milton and Benny Bodker Nielsen who used to run
> it?
>
> Didier

In a letter to NAFS(k) (4/9-1996), Benny Bodker Nielsen wrote that he and
Freddy Milton are working with Carl Barks & Co. #25. The issue will contain
an article about Barks' Junior Woodchucks, interviews with Don Bluth, Floyd
Gottfredson and danish M?rdon Smet.

I don't now if that issue(# 25) has been released yet, but I'll try to find
out!

Per-Erik

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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #174
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Francois Willot
DAVID and HARRY:

>"Phantom Bob" was credited to Michael T. Gilbert, although I think >Gladstone may have had the wrong credits (Michael didn't remember the >story when I asked him about it in San Diego).

>Interesting. Francois Willot mentions in his French index, that >Egmont credits the story to Kurt Behnke.

The story was indeed written by Kurt Behnke according to the Egmont
weekly reports.

By the way, DAVID:

One of your stories (the fifth in France) has been published recently in
Super Picsou: "The Sheepish Rancher", drawn by Vicar. With quite a bad
translation (most of all the last page).

While I'm talking about Vicar: do you know who inks on his pencils?
(Vicar himself?).

DIDER:

Thanks for your kind words...

About Carpi: maybe you can ask him his opinion on recent Disney comics
like the Dutch and Danish productions? (I like to know what the great
Disney comics artists think about Disney comics in general...)

HARRY again:

>What exactly do you mean by "unpublished" drawings? Drawings Don did >for other occasions, but that were not published then [...], or >all-new Rosa art especially for the French edition?

I mean brand-new Don Rosa art especially done for Picsou.
Note : the date I gave (october 1997) may change...

They will also reprint old Rosa stories (but I guess this is less
interesting).

>If I'm not mistaken, either the Italians, or Gladstone (or both) have >a complete original version of that story in their archives.

The French have the films of an old Italian reprint, with half of the
pages in black and white (that can be used) and the other half in
colours (that can not be used of course). But the editors in France said
they were sure the Dutch and Danish do have black and white films.

To all the Swedish people here:

Alberto Becattini said in "Disney Comics" that original stories were
created in Sweden in the 30s in "Musse Pig Tidlingen". But no examples
of art are shown in his book. Is there someone from Sweden that knows
these stories (and that can make a short description)?

To MARCO:

>Whose <Cronologie>?

The book is in black and white, has no date, and no authors are given.
It is an index of Barks stories with reprints in the US and Italian
titles. Do you know who made it?

>Aren't you confusing it with the last Duck story ever drawn by Barks, >"The Dainty Daredevil", from WALT DISNEY COMICS DIGEST 5, 11/1968 ?

Oops... you're absolutely right. Sorry.

>I am getting more and more persuaded that there is a link between >scientific intersts [Mathematics, Engeneering ;-), etc. etc.] and >Duck fondness.

I don't know. Maybe that's true!

-- Francois
Awiles
TO: (Email removed)

Hi!

In response to the following comment:

"I am getting more and more persuaded that there is a link between
scientific
interests [Mathematics, Engineering ;-), etc. etc.] and Duck fondness"

I started reading $crooge and only $crooge at the age of 6. By the time I
was in my twenties I had completed a mathematics degree. I finally know
what or who influenced my direction in life.

Andrew Wiles
Eirik Krogh Visted
Are these available on video/laserdisc anywhere ? Will his name be listed
in the credits ?

Eirik Krogh Visted
-- intellektuell r?ne

"Skjebnen er hard! Halsen er bl t ... et siste hugg og s? er det m rkt!" -
Iskalde Gr ss #6/1994

http://home.sn.no/~evisted
Didier Ghez
Per-Erik:

It would be nice if you could get that info. The Don Bluth article is min=
e
and I am also always very eager to "read" (see would be more adequate) wh=
at
Benny and Freddy publish. =

Unfortunately, I tried writing to them but did not get any answer.

Didier
Harry Fluks
DIDIER:

> I am planning to attend the Lucca Fair and would be glad to know who are
> the other members who will attend.

I would like to know WHEN the fair is! It's not in the papers in my country,
you know.

--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
GEORGE:

Welcome aboard!

> Also there are some random published magazines without the
> special term in front of them. For example <<I istoria kai doksa tis
> dinastias ton Ntak>> (The history and glory of the dynasty of
> Ducks...

This was first serialized in Mickey Mouse magazine abbout 20 years ago.
What you read is probably a reprint, where all the chapters of the series
were collected in one volume. The series outlined the adventures of the
duck family through history, starting in ancient Egypt, and ending in
present-day US. Each chapter was an adventure in a different historic
period, involving ancestors of Scrooge, Donald and the boys, and an
ancestor of John Rockerduck. I wonder what Americans would have made of
it, given that Rockerduck is virtually unknown to them.

> The <<Miki Maous>> (Mickey
> Mouse) magazine is one of the oldest comics magazines in Greece and I
> think, the first that published Disney Comics.

Actually, the first Disney comics had been published in a series called
"Gelio kai Hara" (laughter and joy), published by the Atlantis publishing
house. This was a title similar to Dell's four-colour series, where
they would print all sorts of stuff. I remember reading Uncle Scrooge
(possibly by Barks), Mickey Mouse (by Murry), Little Bad Wolf (I think
this is the only place I've seen Zeke wolf's name printed in Greece,
though it had been distorted to "Tzeky"), and other stuff like Bugs
Bunny and Little Lulu. You can still buy old reprints of the Little
Lulu stories at Atlantis' bookstore in Athens.

> Komix (Comics) is an old magazine too... (His first volume was
> printed around 1986-1987.

Since the magazine is almost as old as you, *of course* it is old! Others,
however, would say that it is a *new* magazine. :-(

> Some of the other magazines write
> articles for sports, computer games etc...Why Do I have to PAY for these
> arcticles when I want to read comic stories?

Sounds like these are similar to the Disney Adventures magazine that
is printed in the US. Lots of "other" stuff, and few, low-quality
comics. When my subscription to it expired, I did not renew.
The publishers sent me a couple of letters to inform me of all the
wonderful stuff that "my kid" would be missing, and this only strengthened
my decision not to renew. I am not a kid (even though I am a child at
heart), and even if I were a child, I would not want to be treated as
such: part of the fascination of Disney comics is that they do not talk
down to children, treating them rather as young adults.

> 1)Can I add attachments on my email?For example a scanned picture I
> scanned from a magazine in GIF format

Per will give you the definitive answer, but I would think that anything
other than plain English text will only cause problems, especially in
the digests. Thus, no pictures, colors, HTML, fonts, or Greek text,
I'm afraid.

> 2)I saw the names translation database and I know most od the greek
> names of the characters..(More than 90% are missing) Where can I send an
> email to report the greek names so that the webmaster can add the names
> in the database?

On this topic, a long time ago I had sent Arthur an updated version of
the Greek character names HTML page for his web site, with the names
of all characters I could think of, including the complete Duck family
tree, given in Greek (using small pictures for each individual letter)
and a phonetic equivalent in English. Did anything come out of it?
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"I'm *depending* on luck, lieutenant; It's almost the only tool we have that
will work now!"
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Kriton Kyrimis
ROB:

> BTW, Three cubic acres of water (which IMHO would weigh less than three
> cubic acres of paper currency mixed with predominantly coins) weighs
> over half a million tons.

Given that a cubic acre is a six-dimensional unit of measurement, where
do you base the above estimate?

ANDREW:

> I missed WDC&S 600, 604 and 614. Since the print runs on Gladstone Comics
> are so small, its almost impossible to find any back issues at comics
> stores. I have struck out on these issues.

> Anyone have any leads on where I can locate these books?

Um, Gladstone`s back issue department?
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"I'm *depending* on luck, lieutenant; It's almost the only tool we have that
will work now!"
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