Dear Don,
First of all I want to send you my best wishes for a Happy Xmas and a
wonderful ducky 1998, to you and Ann!
I must also thank you again for your partecipation to the last Lucca
Comics (I'll tell you more personally). I have been sooooo busy al the
time that I was able to meet you only in the official situations, and
this is really unfair... The same thing happened with Jeff Smith, Neil
Gaiman... and I didn't even met some artists and storymen (from other
guys I knew that they were there...).
A lot of interviews with you appeared in the italian TV, and also the
award celebration was filmed, with you and Marco Rota (who also was very
glad to be there).
But now I write you about the question I read in the Mailing List...
>A writer contacted me who is trying to locate a comic book he recalls >from his younger days -- he says it involved Donald Duck climbing >around in a tree, hanging pictures of his ancestors/relatives, and >explaining to HD&L about Family Trees. He thinks this comic was around >1958-61, so I've already checked all the later DUCK ALBUM issues with >no luck. He later said that Ludwig Von Drake was in the story, which >would date it to 1961-62, no earlier or later... but perhaps he's wrong >about LVD and the comic might still be from some earlier time?
>Can anyone identify this issue or story?
Well, Don, I can. But the memory of this writer must be a little bit
confused... There is a story with Ludwig Von Drake, drawn by Tony Strobl
and published in his own comic book (in # 3, April 1962), called THE
FAMILY TREE SPREE. A very short story, in the Vic Lockman's style, where
Donald shows a phony family tree on a paper. He says that it includes
"Prince Donamaine Duck, the long ago ruler of Duckzalvania! And that's
Don Juan Duck, spanish hero"...
It's a very forgettable story, indeed. But... the writer you mention
mixed it with ANOTHER story, published really around 1958, with a Disney
character climbing around in a tree, hanging pictures of his
ancestors/relatives, and explaining to some kid about Family Trees...
The problem is that... the character was not Donald, but Goofy, and the
"kids" were only one: his son (!) Junior. In the italian version, since
it was impossible to show that Goofy got a son, the boy's name was
translated into "Gilberto", like he was called his nephew Gilbert. The
comic book, drawn by the same Strobl ditto, come out in nov. 1957, it
was "Four Color" n.857, was titled THE GOOFY ADVENTURE STORY, and was
taken from a similar TV special which introduced old toon like Jack
Hannah's KNIGHT FOR A DAY or Kinney's CALIFORNY OR BUST!
That's all... Best to you!
Luca
Author
Topic: 199712
(314 messages)
Luca Boschi
Luca Boschi to Don Rosa!!
Message 181 -
1997-12-20 at 03:14:38
Katie Sullivan
I GOT IT!!!!!!
Message 182 -
1997-12-20 at 04:47:07
I got "A Little Something Special"!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! Don, you've
outdone yourself this time! I've been smiling so wide my face hurts.
ALL the best characters are here! No matter how many thumbs I had,
they'd all be way, way up, believe me!
I won't go into to the plot for those who haven't read it yet (I know, I
know, I little late for that now ;-( but rest assured it's worth the
$1.95 and then some!
Regarding the bar of music at the end, I played it on my piano and it
doesn't spark my memory. Don, could you enlighten us, please?
Katie Sullivan
(Email removed)
outdone yourself this time! I've been smiling so wide my face hurts.
ALL the best characters are here! No matter how many thumbs I had,
they'd all be way, way up, believe me!
I won't go into to the plot for those who haven't read it yet (I know, I
know, I little late for that now ;-( but rest assured it's worth the
$1.95 and then some!
Regarding the bar of music at the end, I played it on my piano and it
doesn't spark my memory. Don, could you enlighten us, please?
Katie Sullivan
(Email removed)
Vidar Svendsen
Xmas on Bear Mountain,
Message 183 -
1997-12-20 at 13:04:04
At 22:39 18.12.97 +0100, Claus Ola Margon Havik wrote:
>Well, I don't have an older version to compare with, but when
>I read the story and went from page 4 to page 5 of the story
>I felt that the art changed, as if someone has redrawn it or
>something. The first 4 pages seemed to be sharper or cleaner
>than the rest of the story IMHO, is it like that in the older
>version as well?
I've checked it again. I can still not see any changes.
I agree the art seems clearer and sharper on page 1-4 in
the -97 edition. In the -65 edition the colouring is so bad
that I can't see any difference in art.
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
Ja da. Du bad meg jo
hogge inn 100 ganger
at du ikke skulle spise
din nistes mat.
Obelix i "Damenes intogsmarsj"
http://home.sol.no/vsvends/biblix.htm
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>Well, I don't have an older version to compare with, but when
>I read the story and went from page 4 to page 5 of the story
>I felt that the art changed, as if someone has redrawn it or
>something. The first 4 pages seemed to be sharper or cleaner
>than the rest of the story IMHO, is it like that in the older
>version as well?
I've checked it again. I can still not see any changes.
I agree the art seems clearer and sharper on page 1-4 in
the -97 edition. In the -65 edition the colouring is so bad
that I can't see any difference in art.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
Ja da. Du bad meg jo
hogge inn 100 ganger
at du ikke skulle spise
din nistes mat.
Obelix i "Damenes intogsmarsj"
http://home.sol.no/vsvends/biblix.htm
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Eta Beta
V 97 #277
Message 184 -
1997-12-20 at 19:07:16
SHAUN
> Can someone tell me in which story the term "Duckburg" was first used as
> the name of the hometown of the ducks?
It was on Carl Barks' "Donald Duck - High Wire Daredevils" , WDC&S 49 ,
Oct.'44.
EVERYONE
I do have a question myself, about a rather old-looking British edition
I've got, and would like to know more about it, if anybody out there can
help.
It is a hardcover album, titled and containing Jack Pabian's "Mickey
Mouse and the Missing Key", 2 one-pagers by Jack Bradbury and cover art
by Paul Murry(?), all from MM OS 261, and the available publishing
details are as follows
Produced and published by
JUVENILE PRODUCTIONS LTD.
London
By permission of
Walt Disney Mickey Mouse Ltd.
Owners of the copyright
There's no trace of publishing date, but the book looks rather "fiftysh"
to me.
Cheers
Eta Beta
E-mail to : Eta Beta <(Email removed)>
> Can someone tell me in which story the term "Duckburg" was first used as
> the name of the hometown of the ducks?
It was on Carl Barks' "Donald Duck - High Wire Daredevils" , WDC&S 49 ,
Oct.'44.
EVERYONE
I do have a question myself, about a rather old-looking British edition
I've got, and would like to know more about it, if anybody out there can
help.
It is a hardcover album, titled and containing Jack Pabian's "Mickey
Mouse and the Missing Key", 2 one-pagers by Jack Bradbury and cover art
by Paul Murry(?), all from MM OS 261, and the available publishing
details are as follows
Produced and published by
JUVENILE PRODUCTIONS LTD.
London
By permission of
Walt Disney Mickey Mouse Ltd.
Owners of the copyright
There's no trace of publishing date, but the book looks rather "fiftysh"
to me.
Cheers
Eta Beta
E-mail to : Eta Beta <(Email removed)>
Augie De Blieck Jr.
I GOT IT!!!!!!
Message 185 -
1997-12-20 at 21:03:41
DWIGHT:
> In fact, I have to question somebody's judgment in running that Blum
> piece to begin with. Blum starts by insulting Rosa and his readers,
I couldn't agree more. He even managed to write a half-horrible (in similar
vein) piece for the Lo$ HC.
DON:
So just to prove Blum wrong, lemme ask you a question. I liked the story.
Nee, I loved it. I have no problems with it, but for a curious bit of thought
on your part. I remember reading here how much you thought Marv Wolfman got it
wrong during the first wave of Disney's comics. You specifically pointed out
the first issue of DUCKTALES, wherein Mr. Wolfman had $crooge leap all over a
carnival and ferris wheel to get to his top hat which had blown away. You
pointed out that that feat was more super-heroic than duck-like.
In this tale, though, $crooge does some pretty fancy leaping around Cornelius
Coot's statue. Not quite at the same level, but it does seem almost as
perilous and adventuresome.
Also, was that scene an homage to a particular movie? It just struck me as
something you might see in some silent film of the 1920s. Maybe I'm thinking of
the one where the guy is hanging off the clock face, but that's not it.
-Augie
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Pipeline Commentary and Review: New Comic Book Commentary
Every Sunday: http://www.nic.com/~augie/pipeline/pipeline.htm
> In fact, I have to question somebody's judgment in running that Blum
> piece to begin with. Blum starts by insulting Rosa and his readers,
I couldn't agree more. He even managed to write a half-horrible (in similar
vein) piece for the Lo$ HC.
DON:
So just to prove Blum wrong, lemme ask you a question. I liked the story.
Nee, I loved it. I have no problems with it, but for a curious bit of thought
on your part. I remember reading here how much you thought Marv Wolfman got it
wrong during the first wave of Disney's comics. You specifically pointed out
the first issue of DUCKTALES, wherein Mr. Wolfman had $crooge leap all over a
carnival and ferris wheel to get to his top hat which had blown away. You
pointed out that that feat was more super-heroic than duck-like.
In this tale, though, $crooge does some pretty fancy leaping around Cornelius
Coot's statue. Not quite at the same level, but it does seem almost as
perilous and adventuresome.
Also, was that scene an homage to a particular movie? It just struck me as
something you might see in some silent film of the 1920s. Maybe I'm thinking of
the one where the guy is hanging off the clock face, but that's not it.
-Augie
----------------------------------------------------------------
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Pipeline Commentary and Review: New Comic Book Commentary
Every Sunday: http://www.nic.com/~augie/pipeline/pipeline.htm
Jakob Soederbaum
Answers to a few digests (unfinished)
Message 186 -
1997-12-20 at 23:29:50
Thanks to everyone who replied to my question about the Disney Store in
London!
Now, my opinions on the Great Gladstone Trauma:
To think that the nice folks at Gladstone, who brought the Disney comics
to a renaissance around the world (I'm talking about their offspring Rosa
and van Horn), would meet sucha horrible destiny!
It appears the entire market is slowly crumbling into dust. As they're
*the* publisher of original Disney comics (high quality comics - most often
- in its original language), I'd hate to see the company vanish! Therefore,
I'm immediately going to subscribe to the new Uncle $crooge title. That's
the least I can do for uncle Gladstone.
Now I'm gonna have a good listen to Elton John's "Candle in the Wind", and
have a good cry for Gladstone. Long live the American Disney comics!
BARRETO wrote:
> ARTHUR, SHAUN, ETA BETA and all which may concern:
>
> Anyway, every marketing strategy concerning Disney comics should be
> aware they're not *the* kiddie stuff -- the clean, moral, healthy
> comic art kids were supposed to be reading for their best interest and
> development (of course, I don't think this has been implied by anyone
> in this mailing list). European kids are raised and educated in a
> different way... Disney comics' success should be a consequence of it.
> If I were a kid in 1997, maybe I was regarding Disney characters as
> pretty boring compared to Spawn or Sonic -- and many of us could be
> thinking the same. Let's talk relative and come to some conclusions.
I have two younger brothers, one 11 and the other one 10 years old. Their
opinion on comics is as follows: Robert (11) loves Spiderman, and is
collecting the issues the way I collected Disney comics at his age - having
a subscription, and sometimes drop in in a second-hand shop and spend more
money than one really should on old comics. But he has a subscription to
the monthly Swedish Mickey Mouse title, which he adores. Peter (10) got my
subscription of the Swedish Donald Duck weekly after I decided to quit it
and stay to the American titles. He is very concerned about the wealth of
his issues, and he reads them as if they were the Holy Bible - and as this
they mustn't be spoiled in any way. He also likes reading Spiderman, but
he doesn't read but a few of the issues coming in through Robert's
subscription. For both of them, I can say that concerning Disney comics they
can't go to bed on Saturdays without having forced me to read an old Barks-
story, and what concerns other IMO *cheap* comics each of them had to buy a
complete set of Sonic when this title was published for a very brief period
here in Sweden.
So how come the European kids of today likes the Disney comics more than the
American? Well, I think the only Marvel(-like) title today is Spiderman
(X-men stopped a couple of years ago, didn't it?), while there are quite a
bunch of Disney comic titles. In the US you have it the other way around
(at least as it's scheduled now). So why can't Disney comics make it to the
kids hearts in the US the way they do in Europe? Probably because the Marvels
are raw and violent in a way that it would be forbidden to do comics here
in Europe (at least that's the opinion I have), and they're happening in
*the future* or another dimension of Los Angeles 1997 (or whatever) - and
*that* (I think), together with the characters looking human and having all
the "magic" powers a kid want, is what makes kids adore those comics so much.
No shit they think the talking ducks and mice living in real homes, leading
a (in comparission) peaceful life are childish! Recently, this Super-Donald
title has appeared in Europe. I have no idea of what the kids think about
it, but I believe that this might be the title a Disney comics company need
to conquer the Marvel titles. That's silly, you say. But the kids *are*
children at heart, even if they want to be as strong as Hulk or whatever,
and Donald Duck (being the Donald they know from TV) as a superhero might
be what Barks' Donald Duck (worked out from the Donald we saw in the cartoons)
is for us today. Recommended is the stories about Li'l Gum, which made me
quit the thoughts *I* had of getting myself a subscription to Spiderman
when I was younger, and instead stay to the DD pockets, in which those
stories appeared now and then. The stories are *really* good, Li'l Gum is a
kind of superhero chewing chewing-gum (that's *always* been popular, hasn't
it?), and the 3D-looking computer coloring is absolutely magnificent.
So far my attempts to help Gladstone back into the million-copies-sold-each-
week business. ;-)
AUGIE:
> You spend 13 more dollars and get close to 100 pages less.
...worth of annoying advertisements to Spice Girls' new album. What you get
instead is supreme paper-quality, a very nice-looking design of the comic
book itself, and the extinction of coverless comics! I can live with that...
---
/Jakob
Slowly recovering from the angst the latest digests have brought...
==========================================
"And it seems to me you've lived your life
like a candle in the wind..."
/Elton John 1997
==========================================
London!
Now, my opinions on the Great Gladstone Trauma:
To think that the nice folks at Gladstone, who brought the Disney comics
to a renaissance around the world (I'm talking about their offspring Rosa
and van Horn), would meet sucha horrible destiny!
It appears the entire market is slowly crumbling into dust. As they're
*the* publisher of original Disney comics (high quality comics - most often
- in its original language), I'd hate to see the company vanish! Therefore,
I'm immediately going to subscribe to the new Uncle $crooge title. That's
the least I can do for uncle Gladstone.
Now I'm gonna have a good listen to Elton John's "Candle in the Wind", and
have a good cry for Gladstone. Long live the American Disney comics!
BARRETO wrote:
> ARTHUR, SHAUN, ETA BETA and all which may concern:
>
> Anyway, every marketing strategy concerning Disney comics should be
> aware they're not *the* kiddie stuff -- the clean, moral, healthy
> comic art kids were supposed to be reading for their best interest and
> development (of course, I don't think this has been implied by anyone
> in this mailing list). European kids are raised and educated in a
> different way... Disney comics' success should be a consequence of it.
> If I were a kid in 1997, maybe I was regarding Disney characters as
> pretty boring compared to Spawn or Sonic -- and many of us could be
> thinking the same. Let's talk relative and come to some conclusions.
I have two younger brothers, one 11 and the other one 10 years old. Their
opinion on comics is as follows: Robert (11) loves Spiderman, and is
collecting the issues the way I collected Disney comics at his age - having
a subscription, and sometimes drop in in a second-hand shop and spend more
money than one really should on old comics. But he has a subscription to
the monthly Swedish Mickey Mouse title, which he adores. Peter (10) got my
subscription of the Swedish Donald Duck weekly after I decided to quit it
and stay to the American titles. He is very concerned about the wealth of
his issues, and he reads them as if they were the Holy Bible - and as this
they mustn't be spoiled in any way. He also likes reading Spiderman, but
he doesn't read but a few of the issues coming in through Robert's
subscription. For both of them, I can say that concerning Disney comics they
can't go to bed on Saturdays without having forced me to read an old Barks-
story, and what concerns other IMO *cheap* comics each of them had to buy a
complete set of Sonic when this title was published for a very brief period
here in Sweden.
So how come the European kids of today likes the Disney comics more than the
American? Well, I think the only Marvel(-like) title today is Spiderman
(X-men stopped a couple of years ago, didn't it?), while there are quite a
bunch of Disney comic titles. In the US you have it the other way around
(at least as it's scheduled now). So why can't Disney comics make it to the
kids hearts in the US the way they do in Europe? Probably because the Marvels
are raw and violent in a way that it would be forbidden to do comics here
in Europe (at least that's the opinion I have), and they're happening in
*the future* or another dimension of Los Angeles 1997 (or whatever) - and
*that* (I think), together with the characters looking human and having all
the "magic" powers a kid want, is what makes kids adore those comics so much.
No shit they think the talking ducks and mice living in real homes, leading
a (in comparission) peaceful life are childish! Recently, this Super-Donald
title has appeared in Europe. I have no idea of what the kids think about
it, but I believe that this might be the title a Disney comics company need
to conquer the Marvel titles. That's silly, you say. But the kids *are*
children at heart, even if they want to be as strong as Hulk or whatever,
and Donald Duck (being the Donald they know from TV) as a superhero might
be what Barks' Donald Duck (worked out from the Donald we saw in the cartoons)
is for us today. Recommended is the stories about Li'l Gum, which made me
quit the thoughts *I* had of getting myself a subscription to Spiderman
when I was younger, and instead stay to the DD pockets, in which those
stories appeared now and then. The stories are *really* good, Li'l Gum is a
kind of superhero chewing chewing-gum (that's *always* been popular, hasn't
it?), and the 3D-looking computer coloring is absolutely magnificent.
So far my attempts to help Gladstone back into the million-copies-sold-each-
week business. ;-)
AUGIE:
> You spend 13 more dollars and get close to 100 pages less.
...worth of annoying advertisements to Spice Girls' new album. What you get
instead is supreme paper-quality, a very nice-looking design of the comic
book itself, and the extinction of coverless comics! I can live with that...
---
/Jakob
Slowly recovering from the angst the latest digests have brought...
==========================================
"And it seems to me you've lived your life
like a candle in the wind..."
/Elton John 1997
==========================================
Rich Bellacera
GUS & JAQ/ Native Disney
Message 187 -
1997-12-21 at 00:43:35
RE: "GUS & JAQ" and The Duck Universe:
Last time this topic was discussed it was suggested by someone (I forget
who), that "Gus & Jaq" are probably no longer considered part of the
"Duck Universe" *in the USA*, though they definitely appear in the now
classic issue of "Donald Duck Adventures" #32 & 33 from Jan. - Feb.
1993, where they were featured in the new 2-part story "Return to Bear
Mountain" when the Duck Family gathers for Christmas in a sequel to
$crooge's first comicbook appearance: "Christmas on Bear Mountain"
from 1947). They may have appeared since, but I can't recall where.
However, they definitely appear as Grandma's little helpers in "The
Adventures of Uncle Scrooge McDuck" #2, in 50th Anniversary issue
story "Grandma Duck: Flaming Dessert." I guess they're still viable in
the Duck Universe, even in the USA. And speaking of "Cinderella"....
DISNEY COMICS in the USA:
I've been pondering how I feel about Disney comics as they appear in the
USA. It saddens me how far out-of-the-loop we are here. I got this
image of Disney's "Cinderella." Sort of the way Cinderella's father
remarried and then her father died. Now Cinderella was the unwanted
stepchild, locked in a darkened attic, and given scraps. I know the
metaphor isn't perfect, but I liken it to Walt Disney dying after having
established a strong link with the Foreign market. Now that he is gone,
his biological children (us) are like unwanted step-children. The new
mistress rules the Disney comic market, and her own children are the
benefactors. Of course I don't think the foreign Disney market is evil
like Lady Tremaine, but we are definitely locked in a darkened attic and
are only given miniscule amounts of Disney comics to live on (much of it
is usually rehashed Barks & Gottfredson diet... the later even less now).
Just a thought.
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Last time this topic was discussed it was suggested by someone (I forget
who), that "Gus & Jaq" are probably no longer considered part of the
"Duck Universe" *in the USA*, though they definitely appear in the now
classic issue of "Donald Duck Adventures" #32 & 33 from Jan. - Feb.
1993, where they were featured in the new 2-part story "Return to Bear
Mountain" when the Duck Family gathers for Christmas in a sequel to
$crooge's first comicbook appearance: "Christmas on Bear Mountain"
from 1947). They may have appeared since, but I can't recall where.
However, they definitely appear as Grandma's little helpers in "The
Adventures of Uncle Scrooge McDuck" #2, in 50th Anniversary issue
story "Grandma Duck: Flaming Dessert." I guess they're still viable in
the Duck Universe, even in the USA. And speaking of "Cinderella"....
DISNEY COMICS in the USA:
I've been pondering how I feel about Disney comics as they appear in the
USA. It saddens me how far out-of-the-loop we are here. I got this
image of Disney's "Cinderella." Sort of the way Cinderella's father
remarried and then her father died. Now Cinderella was the unwanted
stepchild, locked in a darkened attic, and given scraps. I know the
metaphor isn't perfect, but I liken it to Walt Disney dying after having
established a strong link with the Foreign market. Now that he is gone,
his biological children (us) are like unwanted step-children. The new
mistress rules the Disney comic market, and her own children are the
benefactors. Of course I don't think the foreign Disney market is evil
like Lady Tremaine, but we are definitely locked in a darkened attic and
are only given miniscule amounts of Disney comics to live on (much of it
is usually rehashed Barks & Gottfredson diet... the later even less now).
Just a thought.
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
D Decker
I GOT IT!!!!!!
Message 188 -
1997-12-21 at 00:53:27
On Dec 19, 10:00pm, Miss Quackfaster wrote:
> > I got "A Little Something Special"!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! Don, you've
> > outdone yourself this time! I've been smiling so wide my face hurts.
> > ALL the best characters are here! No matter how many thumbs I had,
> > they'd all be way, way up, believe me!
>
I agree. This story hit me without warning. I just pulled the comic
off the stack of new stuf' without knowing anything about it one
way or the other, and as I read, it slowly dawned on me that "Hey,
something major is going on here!" The story was longer than I'd
expected, much more involved...and if anything had been said on the
ML ahead of time that Don had done a special 50th Anniversary Scrooge
story, I'd long since forgotten it. The only down side was that partway
through the story, when I realized something important was up, I glanced
back at the inside front cover to see what the editorial stuff had to
say, and by sheer accident, I read the part where Geoffrey Blum GAVE
THE ENDING AWAY! It kinda took the edge off the surprise.
In fact, I have to question somebody's judgment in running that Blum
piece to begin with. Blum starts by insulting Rosa and his readers,
proceeds to spoil the story's ending, and winds up by sniffing
disdainfully at the stories in a companion comic on sale at the same
time, as if Gladstone's sales weren't already low enough. Why didn't
somebody read Blum's manuscript and say, "We can't run this!" and then
not?!
--Dwight Decker
> > I got "A Little Something Special"!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! Don, you've
> > outdone yourself this time! I've been smiling so wide my face hurts.
> > ALL the best characters are here! No matter how many thumbs I had,
> > they'd all be way, way up, believe me!
>
I agree. This story hit me without warning. I just pulled the comic
off the stack of new stuf' without knowing anything about it one
way or the other, and as I read, it slowly dawned on me that "Hey,
something major is going on here!" The story was longer than I'd
expected, much more involved...and if anything had been said on the
ML ahead of time that Don had done a special 50th Anniversary Scrooge
story, I'd long since forgotten it. The only down side was that partway
through the story, when I realized something important was up, I glanced
back at the inside front cover to see what the editorial stuff had to
say, and by sheer accident, I read the part where Geoffrey Blum GAVE
THE ENDING AWAY! It kinda took the edge off the surprise.
In fact, I have to question somebody's judgment in running that Blum
piece to begin with. Blum starts by insulting Rosa and his readers,
proceeds to spoil the story's ending, and winds up by sniffing
disdainfully at the stories in a companion comic on sale at the same
time, as if Gladstone's sales weren't already low enough. Why didn't
somebody read Blum's manuscript and say, "We can't run this!" and then
not?!
--Dwight Decker
Ventnor
Archive of Australian Disney comics
Message 189 -
1997-12-21 at 07:33:01
I was recently surprised to learn, after a short email exchange with Harry
Fluks, that the archive has no records of Australian Disney comics. As I
used to have a very large collection, which I can still remember quite well,
and as I am slowly managing to rebuild my collection, I thought I would
start up a database myself. So if there are any readers of the list, please
email me privately with details of your holdings. The Disney comics
published in Australia until around 1979-1980 typically had six different
catalogue numbers: D (Donald Duck), M (Mickey Mouse), No (Walt Disney Comics
and Stories), G (miscellaneous - often Uncle Scrooge), J (64 page editions)
and FP (film tie-ins). So the information I would like is: the catalogue
numbers of the comics in your collection together with the main story in
each (for identification purposes).
Regards,
David King.
"Mankind has not so much power to receive as the genius has power to give."
Schopenhauer
Fluks, that the archive has no records of Australian Disney comics. As I
used to have a very large collection, which I can still remember quite well,
and as I am slowly managing to rebuild my collection, I thought I would
start up a database myself. So if there are any readers of the list, please
email me privately with details of your holdings. The Disney comics
published in Australia until around 1979-1980 typically had six different
catalogue numbers: D (Donald Duck), M (Mickey Mouse), No (Walt Disney Comics
and Stories), G (miscellaneous - often Uncle Scrooge), J (64 page editions)
and FP (film tie-ins). So the information I would like is: the catalogue
numbers of the comics in your collection together with the main story in
each (for identification purposes).
Regards,
David King.
"Mankind has not so much power to receive as the genius has power to give."
Schopenhauer
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #277
Message 190 -
1997-12-21 at 08:19:51
> From: Jonathan Markoff
> Please don't stop writing "travel reports"! We need some good news to
> balance out all these bad ones!
Well, maybe in a little while yet. I was getting ready to write the next
lil' jolly travelogue, but then I was struck for the third time by the
Curse of Blum. I was very, VERY proud of "A Little Something Special"... to
me the whole story was in the final two pages. And to have the publisher
print a prologue to the story that seems to insult anyone who likes my
work, then gives away the story's surprise ending for no possible reason
than to simply spoil the story for those fans.... now I'm back to being too
bummed out and pissed off to want to write anything happy about Ducks.
Maybe in a few more weeks...
Seems like someone else was asking when he'd get his hardback "Lo$" edition
from Gladstone. I've spent the past *four solid weeks* doing nothing
whatsoever than signing and drawing on the tip-in pages for this book. I
had NO inkling so many people would opt to get the
double-figure-full-color-drawing version. I expected most would just want
signed copies, a bunch would want B&W heads, a few would want full-color
figures, and about 3 people would want the double/color deal. But it turns
out that MOST of the thousand copies will need the double/color deal! Can
you imagine how tedious and boring that is to do?! The same elaborate,
full-color illustration, over and over and over, hundreds of times!!!
That's no fun for someone who only wants to tell stories.
So, I have now finished all the signed editions and the editions that (I
think) are the ones going through Diamond to dealers. That's about 570+ of
the total. Now, and for the foreseeable future, I am going back to writing
and drawing stories.
> Please don't stop writing "travel reports"! We need some good news to
> balance out all these bad ones!
Well, maybe in a little while yet. I was getting ready to write the next
lil' jolly travelogue, but then I was struck for the third time by the
Curse of Blum. I was very, VERY proud of "A Little Something Special"... to
me the whole story was in the final two pages. And to have the publisher
print a prologue to the story that seems to insult anyone who likes my
work, then gives away the story's surprise ending for no possible reason
than to simply spoil the story for those fans.... now I'm back to being too
bummed out and pissed off to want to write anything happy about Ducks.
Maybe in a few more weeks...
Seems like someone else was asking when he'd get his hardback "Lo$" edition
from Gladstone. I've spent the past *four solid weeks* doing nothing
whatsoever than signing and drawing on the tip-in pages for this book. I
had NO inkling so many people would opt to get the
double-figure-full-color-drawing version. I expected most would just want
signed copies, a bunch would want B&W heads, a few would want full-color
figures, and about 3 people would want the double/color deal. But it turns
out that MOST of the thousand copies will need the double/color deal! Can
you imagine how tedious and boring that is to do?! The same elaborate,
full-color illustration, over and over and over, hundreds of times!!!
That's no fun for someone who only wants to tell stories.
So, I have now finished all the signed editions and the editions that (I
think) are the ones going through Diamond to dealers. That's about 570+ of
the total. Now, and for the foreseeable future, I am going back to writing
and drawing stories.
Anna-Maija Ihander
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Message 191 -
1997-12-21 at 12:31:21
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JOAKIM:
> [about "Backyard..." in WDC 615]
> Panel four [on the last page of the story]: The upper
> part of the door is missing.
I think this is the result of a smaller text balloon in the
Gladstone version.
> The cake and Jones hands & body is drawn much
> poorer than the rest of the panel. And look under Jones left hand. You can
> even see an "invisible line" between Miltons drawing and the redrawn body.
You're right. Something must have been going on here.
But whatever it was, it has been done *before* the first
printing in Holland.
> The last panel on the page also
> gives an hint about it. I think the original version featured a more
> diabolic revenge from Jones. Something that didn't suit a Disney-comic...
How would *you* look if you had a *concrete* pie in your face? 8-)
--Harry.
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JOAKIM:
> [about "Backyard..." in WDC 615]
> Panel four [on the last page of the story]: The upper
> part of the door is missing.
I think this is the result of a smaller text balloon in the
Gladstone version.
> The cake and Jones hands & body is drawn much
> poorer than the rest of the panel. And look under Jones left hand. You can
> even see an "invisible line" between Miltons drawing and the redrawn body.
You're right. Something must have been going on here.
But whatever it was, it has been done *before* the first
printing in Holland.
> The last panel on the page also
> gives an hint about it. I think the original version featured a more
> diabolic revenge from Jones. Something that didn't suit a Disney-comic...
How would *you* look if you had a *concrete* pie in your face? 8-)
--Harry.
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Augie De Blieck Jr.
Disney comics from USA and the Netherlands
Message 193 -
1997-12-21 at 21:26:15
HARRY:
> Can someone please be more precise about this? What are
> the contents of these comics, and what exactly is mister
> Blum saying about Rosa fans?
From the Adv$McDuck #2 editorial:
"What can I say about Don Rosa's extravaganza in THE ADVENTUROUS $CROOGE McDUCK
2? If I criticize just one sweat bead, there'll be legions of loyal fans
howling for my head. If I praise too much, you'll think I have my keyboard in
my cheek..."
And then of course later he writes, "...More than that I can't reveal without
spoiling the twists and hairpin turns of Rosa's plot." In the VERY NEXT
sentence he spoils the ending of the story. In the words of Bugs Bunny, "What
a maroon!"
In the Lo$ hardcover, his scrawling includes more factual innacuracies on the
first page than I care to count, including, "Even Rosa bought into this
pattern, telling interviewers that he was the only man fit and fated to
continue the Great Barks Tradition." There is no footnote to this and no
source cited for this quote, although I'd love to see it.
-Augie
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> Can someone please be more precise about this? What are
> the contents of these comics, and what exactly is mister
> Blum saying about Rosa fans?
From the Adv$McDuck #2 editorial:
"What can I say about Don Rosa's extravaganza in THE ADVENTUROUS $CROOGE McDUCK
2? If I criticize just one sweat bead, there'll be legions of loyal fans
howling for my head. If I praise too much, you'll think I have my keyboard in
my cheek..."
And then of course later he writes, "...More than that I can't reveal without
spoiling the twists and hairpin turns of Rosa's plot." In the VERY NEXT
sentence he spoils the ending of the story. In the words of Bugs Bunny, "What
a maroon!"
In the Lo$ hardcover, his scrawling includes more factual innacuracies on the
first page than I care to count, including, "Even Rosa bought into this
pattern, telling interviewers that he was the only man fit and fated to
continue the Great Barks Tradition." There is no footnote to this and no
source cited for this quote, although I'd love to see it.
-Augie
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Harry Fluks
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Message 194 -
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MICHAEL:
> DO NOT READ THE INTERIOR TEXT OF
> Adventurous Uncle Scrooge McDuck #2!!!
> Don't read the interior text of Uncle Scrooge &
> Donald Duck #2, either!
and AUGIE:
> [Geoffrey Blum's] characterization of all Rosa fans
> as being mind-numbed robots who are easily offended by any hint of dissent is
> still mind-bogglingly wrong.
Can someone please be more precise about this? What are
the contents of these comics, and what exactly is mister
Blum saying about Rosa fans?
We Europeans have no possibility to get the Gladstone comics
nowadays, so we will never know if you don't tell us!
JONATHAN:
> I have also read many of the Dutch DONALD DUCK WEEKBLAD, and I'm not as
> impressed as others are. The magazine starts with a 10-12 page Duck story,
> sometimes Dutch, other times Egmont or Western, and only occasionally worth
> quacking about. Unfortuneatly, the rest of the magazine is for age 5 [..]
The *back* of the Dutch weekly always (since 1989) has a 4 to 6 page
Duck story. And 1 out of 3 of these stories is VERY good. Especially
when drawn by Mau Heymans.
> BTW, relating to a discussion the list had once regarding the connection
> between April, May, & June and Webby of DUCKTALES, in Dutch AMJ are called
> Lizzy, Juultje, en Babetje, whereas Webby is Lizzy--i. e., by Dutch criteria
> April and Webby are one and the same!
No, they are different, just like the Beagle Boys and Flintheart Glomgold
are different. The Dutch have a clear division between the "old" Duck
world and the Ducktales world. (They only made one minor mistake
once, stating Glomgold was from Scotland in the "old" Duck universe...)
Talking about Dutch comics:
The latest DD EXTRA has the "Little Something Special" story by Don Rosa,
and (for the first time in this country) a photograph of Don! I can't even
remember they put a photograph of Barks in their regular comics!
--Harry.
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MICHAEL:
> DO NOT READ THE INTERIOR TEXT OF
> Adventurous Uncle Scrooge McDuck #2!!!
> Don't read the interior text of Uncle Scrooge &
> Donald Duck #2, either!
and AUGIE:
> [Geoffrey Blum's] characterization of all Rosa fans
> as being mind-numbed robots who are easily offended by any hint of dissent is
> still mind-bogglingly wrong.
Can someone please be more precise about this? What are
the contents of these comics, and what exactly is mister
Blum saying about Rosa fans?
We Europeans have no possibility to get the Gladstone comics
nowadays, so we will never know if you don't tell us!
JONATHAN:
> I have also read many of the Dutch DONALD DUCK WEEKBLAD, and I'm not as
> impressed as others are. The magazine starts with a 10-12 page Duck story,
> sometimes Dutch, other times Egmont or Western, and only occasionally worth
> quacking about. Unfortuneatly, the rest of the magazine is for age 5 [..]
The *back* of the Dutch weekly always (since 1989) has a 4 to 6 page
Duck story. And 1 out of 3 of these stories is VERY good. Especially
when drawn by Mau Heymans.
> BTW, relating to a discussion the list had once regarding the connection
> between April, May, & June and Webby of DUCKTALES, in Dutch AMJ are called
> Lizzy, Juultje, en Babetje, whereas Webby is Lizzy--i. e., by Dutch criteria
> April and Webby are one and the same!
No, they are different, just like the Beagle Boys and Flintheart Glomgold
are different. The Dutch have a clear division between the "old" Duck
world and the Ducktales world. (They only made one minor mistake
once, stating Glomgold was from Scotland in the "old" Duck universe...)
Talking about Dutch comics:
The latest DD EXTRA has the "Little Something Special" story by Don Rosa,
and (for the first time in this country) a photograph of Don! I can't even
remember they put a photograph of Barks in their regular comics!
--Harry.
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Michael Naiman
Comics in America
Message 195 -
1997-12-21 at 22:31:13
During the past few days, I've driven around San Diego and visited
7 comic book retail stores in search of Adventurous Scrooge McDuck #2 for
my friends who have been unable to locate copies. What a sad state of
affairs I found. In all, I was able to purchase 17 copies---total available
for sale! 3 copies went overseas, and another 5 to a friend on the East
Coast.
Now remember, San Diego is one of the larger cities here in the US
(6th or 7th) and we have probably 12-17 comic book specialty retail
outlets. 2 stores didn't even carry Gladstone books! Another had them piled
on the floor in a corner in no particular order...had to dig to find one
copy. No seasonal promotional posters, no "kids corner" (except for my
regular retailer), and no attempt to lure the new reader in. Is there any
wonder why Gladstone has decided to target only the collector market? How
very sad, indeed.
I have attempted to re-order AdvUSMcD through my retailer---lets
see if Diamond fills the order or ignores it. In about two weeks, the
"newsstand" edition should hit the streets...I think? or was that
cancelled??? Those show up at the two newsstands in town and at the local
record stores that carry comics.
If I'm successful in the re-order campaign, I'll let the ML know
and you can contact me regarding obtaining a copy of the "Last American
Made Uncle Scrooge Standard Size Comic Book"
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7 comic book retail stores in search of Adventurous Scrooge McDuck #2 for
my friends who have been unable to locate copies. What a sad state of
affairs I found. In all, I was able to purchase 17 copies---total available
for sale! 3 copies went overseas, and another 5 to a friend on the East
Coast.
Now remember, San Diego is one of the larger cities here in the US
(6th or 7th) and we have probably 12-17 comic book specialty retail
outlets. 2 stores didn't even carry Gladstone books! Another had them piled
on the floor in a corner in no particular order...had to dig to find one
copy. No seasonal promotional posters, no "kids corner" (except for my
regular retailer), and no attempt to lure the new reader in. Is there any
wonder why Gladstone has decided to target only the collector market? How
very sad, indeed.
I have attempted to re-order AdvUSMcD through my retailer---lets
see if Diamond fills the order or ignores it. In about two weeks, the
"newsstand" edition should hit the streets...I think? or was that
cancelled??? Those show up at the two newsstands in town and at the local
record stores that carry comics.
If I'm successful in the re-order campaign, I'll let the ML know
and you can contact me regarding obtaining a copy of the "Last American
Made Uncle Scrooge Standard Size Comic Book"
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