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Francois Willot
A new French story index is now available at the following URL:

http://www.pizarro.net/didier

(Check the "Disney History" link from there).

This index contains summaries and descriptions of the stories that are
not in the Disney comics database, and it will be updated more
frequently.

Francois

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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #128
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Danny Coenen
DON ROSA:
CONGRATULATIONS for winning yet another deserved award for your Lo$-
series.
I didn't have time to make it to the post office yet, I'll send you
that comic book I was talking about this week.

ALL:
Recently, some e-mails in the digests appear to be written in two
different formats, one of which just looks like a whole bunch of weird
HTML to me. Is that really necessary? Looks like an awful waste of
cyberspace to me...

PER:
Thanks for re-sending the digest.

KATIE:
I've visited your page a couple of times. Keep up the good work.

==
Danny Coenen

Visit me on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/5042
http://surf.to/saturnpage

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Michael Naiman
I want to thank one and all for taking the time to send Carl
birthday greetings---I received over 65 cards and letters from the
far-flung reaches of New Zealand, Uruguay, Brazil,
Denmark,Sweden,Norway,the Netherlands, Germany, France, Italy and the
United States.
I know that Unca Carl will enjoy reading your very creative cards
and personal thoughts on the occasion of his 97th birthday. Once again,
thanks to everyone for participating!
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Good afternoon.

Q1)

Only a very few (four or five) Italian stories from
the 50's have been published in Denmark, and I
have ended up with one story which I just don't
know where to place.

I would like it to be a Bottaro, but Donalds looking
into the 'camera' when he gets offended suggests
Carpi, however, the long-beak characteristic of Carpi is
missing (well, he dropped that in early 60's anyway...)
And some of the sad scenes of Donald could easily
have been drawn by Capitanio. And if those three guys
sat down together in the 50's and had invited Perego in,
I wouldn't be surprised - just to complete the picture.
Could anyone tell what kind of combi story that is?

I have scanned four pages of the story, that might help.
They are of 100 kB each:

http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/carbot1.jpg
http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/carbot2.jpg

I have of course run through the dcomics-lib, but
nothing seems to fit in. The length of the story is 43
pages.

It's funny to see how alike the great Italians were
in the 50's. It reminds me somehow of the
de Vita/Cavazzano similarities here in the 90's.
Personal expressions seem to have faded compared
to the 60's and 70's, but, honestly that goes for
e.g. music as well, doesn't it??? ;-)

Q2)

The next (and last) story in question is in my opinion
one of Carpi's finest achievements, but it really bothers
me which one it is. We have definitely moved into late
60's - 70's with 'long-beaks' and everything:

http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/c1.jpg
http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/c2.jpg

Specialists Marco, Luca and Alberto know which
story it is, I am sure...

S=F8ren
Fluks, H.W.
Kriton wrote:
>Such a tool wood be very handy for making rhymes!

Yeah... but wood it find out that "wood" rhymes with "would"?
8-)

--Harry.

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Didier Ghez
JOAKIM:

Thanks for your nice comments about the site.

Thanks to many people from the mailing list, I have been able to add 41
books to the list this week-end (mainly books from Germany, Italy and the=

Netherlands).

Thanks again for your help, and please, try to send me more info whenever=

you find time.

Didier
Disney Books Network : www.pizarro.net/didier
Stanislav Sokolov
ARCHONTIS:
>For the life of me, I simply CAN't understand WHY Gladstone is
producing
>these "new" albums that simply re-print old Barks and Rosa stories. I
also
>WILL NOT be buying ANY of them. Why?
............
>So, WHO will be buying the "new" Gladstone albums? They cost ~$10,
right? A
>kid will certainly NOT be buying them on just his meager monthly
allowance.
>That leaves only the adult collectors. But why should THEY buy them, if
they
>already own umpteen copies of these stories? I'd be interested in
hearing
>from Gladstone how well they sell...

I can think of one more answer: the newcomers to the world of Disney
comics collecting. Well, you bought your album, so it is obvious that
you will not buy more of them, but what will do those who just begun
collecting, and want to have some of the clasics? Their almost only
answer is reprints!

Stanislav.

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Kriton Kyrimis
HARRY FLUKS:
> Kriton wrote:
> >Such a tool wood be very handy for making rhymes!
>
> Yeah... but wood it find out that "wood" rhymes with "would"?

That particular dictionary probably woodn't. :-) On the other hand,
algorithms for finding words that sound alike do exist, so I don't see
why such a tool couldn't be built in principle.

And I was hoping that nobody wood notice the typo... :-)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"...a long bath in sodium chloride solution, then wallowing about on a bed of
mica crystals while undergoing severe exposure to hard ultraviolet
bombardment."
-----
Soeren Krarup Olesen
I think I have solved the mystery of my question 1.
It can only be Paperin di Tarascona. I looked up
Alphonse Daudet and my book says about his
'Tarantin de Tarascon' (1872) that the magnificient
middleclass hero, incited by his vanity, leaves his
friends at home - a provencal village - and goes
lion hunting in Marocco. That is exactly what
Donald does in the story! So it was by Bottaro
after all... I think that it should be noted in the
dcomics-lib that this story was actually published
in Denmark. If it wasn't such a brilliant story, I
wouldn't have gone though all this research, that's
for sure...
Still, about question 2, I have no clue of the Carpi
story.

S=F8ren
Fluks, H.W.
ALBERTO wrote:

>So - - let's see if I can answer Marco's 25 questions - - or, at least, most
>of them...

For anyone who was wondering what this is about: I (not Marco) asked
Alberto 25 questions in private mail, and he answered them by mistake on
the list. The questions were about some inaccuracies in the Disney
comics Database.

Anyway, thanks for the answers, Alberto!

Request: Alberto, can you PLEASE configure your mailer so it will not
send HTML files with your mail??

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, KPN Research, Groningen
(This week only reachable at (Email removed))
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Marco Barlotti
SOEREN:

>
>Only a very few (four or five) Italian stories from
>the 50's have been published in Denmark, and I
>have ended up with one story which I just don't
>know where to place.
>

Well, if it's ONLY ONE story then you are far better off than myself with
the MANY Italian stories I can't ascribe to anybody...

>I would like it to be a Bottaro
>http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/carbot1.jpg
>http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/carbot2.jpg

and I'd say Bottaro it is, a Bottaro from the EARLY FIFTIES.
If I had to bet, I'd choose one between I TL 118-B and I TL 156-A; but to
say which one, I'll have to check on my collection which is at HOME and not
here in my Department ;-)
Next time, it WOULD help if you gave us a short synopsis of the story
subject (I can't understand a word of those balloons, sorry...).

>The next (and last) story in question is in my opinion
>one of Carpi's finest achievements, but it really bothers
>me which one it is. We have definitely moved into late
>60's - 70's with 'long-beaks' and everything:
>http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/c1.jpg
>http://www.kom.auc.dk/~sko/jumbo/c2.jpg

This is definitely I TL 586-A "Il romanzo di un papero povero".

Marco
Eta Beta
SOEREN

I just took a brief look at your page, and I quite like it,
especially the characters evolution sect.

On V#83 you wrote

>Only a very few (four or five) Italian stories from
>the 50's have been published in Denmark, and I
>have ended up with one story which I just don't
>know where to place.

>I would like it to be a Bottaro...

Well, you would then be glad to know that it *IS* a
Bottaro... ;-)

"Paperin di Tarascona"
L. Bottaro - G. Martina
Topolino 156 - 157 , 10/02/57 and 25/02/57

One of the famous Italian parodies, this one is inspired
by Alphonse Daudet's "Tartarin de Tarascon" (1872).

>The length of the story is 43 pages.

Should be 45. As usual, some panels have been edited out
for the pocket-books reprints.

>The next (and last) story in question is in my opinion
>one of Carpi's finest achievements, but it really
>bothers me which one it is. We have definitely moved into late
>60's - 70's with 'long-beaks' and everything:

Your... "fluency" with Italian comics is truly amazing... and
pleasing, for us Italian fans; there you go

"Il romanzo di un papero povero"
G.B. Carpi - G. Martina / R. Rizzo
Topolino 586 - 587 , 19/02/67 and 26/02/67

And this is another parody, this time from Octave Feuillet's
"Roman d'un jeune homme pauvre" (1858).

It's an amazing coincidence that I'm currently working at a
web page on Disney parodies, isn't it? ;-)

Cheers

Eta Beta
Stefan Diƶs
Somebody asked whether Don Rosa has been sighted in Scandinavia yet, to
which I can answer in the affirmative.

Don spent Friday and Saturday in Stockholm before leaving for an (informal?)
visit to Finland Sunday morning. Friday was set aside for interviews,
resulting in a spot in the main evening newscast of one of the major TV
channels. Also, he covered almost a full page in the Sunday edition of
"Svenska Dagbladet", a national morning paper with a solid reputation for
seriousness. On the cultural pages, no less; perhaps the most respected ones
in Sweden. The interviewer, a quite well-known literature critic, discussed
Rosa's intertextualism as well as comparing his work to Marcel Proust and
T.S. Eliot.

Another article, perhaps a little lighter, is expected in another paper next
weekend. Meanwhile, other media have given quite some attention to the
"revelations" of the Duck family tree. In Swedish tradition, Scrooge was
always considered the paternal uncle to Donald, as well as Donald to the
boys. (The Swedish language has two distinctive words for "uncle".) Now,
Rosa's stories show the "true" background, and media are amused by the fact
that Swedish Disney readers have been "hoodwinked" for fifty years.

On Friday night, Don had dinner with a few Donaldist friends, who wanted to
repay his hospitality when they visited Louisville last summer.

Saturday was a busy day. First, Don signed the Swedish "Life of $crooge"
book at a major department store. Lines were 30 to 45 minutes for three full
hours. Then, he was guest of Serieframjandet (Swedish Comics Society) at the
Royal Library as part of Stockholm's celebrations as the European Culture
Capital of 1998. Don was presented with the "Unghunden" award, given out
each year to an artist/writer with a great influence on comics for "youth
and children". In his acceptance speech, Don pointed out that he didn't
specifically write for younger readers, but he was happy to be read by kids,
too. After that, he was interviewed for an hour by long-time Donaldist,
journalist, and comics fandom organizer Daniel Atterbom.

More signing followed before this evening was spent with some people from
Serieframjandet. After some lengthy chatting during dinner and coffee, Don
went back to his hotel to pack his bags. I hope he arrived safely in
Helsinki on Sunday morning.

I hope that Don enjoyed his visit to Stockholm. Perhaps the receptions are
bigger and the following greater when he tours other European countries, but
there is no difference in the appreciation and dedication of his many fans.
We were certainly happy to have him here, and we are looking forward to
welcoming him again for the big Book and Comics Fair in Gothenburg later
this year.

Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Marco Barlotti wrote:

> .....I came to
> visit your gorgeous www.sko.nu!!!!

Glad you like it. I have had a few requests on translating the
whole site into English, which wouldn't be too hard, however,
I think it should stay in Danish, because it deals mainly with
Disney comics published in Denmark.

> Were you keeping the place secret, or did you tell us and I didn't
> notice?

I fact it is #2 on Paolo's webring, so it is not that much
of a secret ;-)

> .....Just one remark: choose another picture for P.
> L. De Vita. The one you have is probably from I TL 342-B.

It is actually from I TL 302-A (1961), and Donalds hair tuft
looks very PLdV to me, even if Massimo *was* steering the pen.
Did MdV really drew I TL 342-B, tell us more about that!?

Marco also wrote:
| This is definitely I TL 586-A "Il romanzo di un papero povero".

I (almost) knew it! The style looks so much like the Fingher story,
so it had to be it! I was merely a little confused, since there is
a second part to the romanzo-story, which, of course,
never was published in Denmark. I wonder what happened to
Donald after the happy ending of part 1. I better go back to
Aquasparta to check it out ;-)

Thank you very much for your help!

S=F8ren
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Eta Beta wrote:

> Well, you would then be glad to know that it *IS* a
> Bottaro... ;-)

Yes, that was indeed a relief!!! I was also confused by
the fact that Bottaro did a few works together with
Chierchini in that period. So my question is *how* do
we know that it was done solely by Bottaro, could
someone have dropped by, like Capitanio; I can't
free myself from seeing a few very Capitanio-inspired
panels around this story!? And that goes for the
Monto Cristo - story also. Ah, well, perhaps it's just
me...

Your parodie site sounds very interesting. Where can
we find it???

Thanks very much for your help on this!

S=F8ren
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