Thanks for the feedback on my question. Now I just have to find a copy
somehow...
I guess TMC was released on video in the UK and maybe in a few other
countries, but never in the USA. Very unfortunately...
==
Danny Coenen
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Danny Coenen
Disney comics Digest V98 #70
Message 46 -
1998-03-07 at 04:38:00
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks Studio history
Message 47 -
1998-03-07 at 10:10:42
DONALD MARKSTEIN:
> [Grandey and Morby] Anybody know their history before they sunk their
> claws into Barks?
Yes, look under "retirement years" and then "Barks Studio" on my webpage:
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
BTW. Please avoid words like "claws". I think such terms make e-mails
unnescessarily partial sounding and people can build their own opinions
on what they hear and/or see.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
> [Grandey and Morby] Anybody know their history before they sunk their
> claws into Barks?
Yes, look under "retirement years" and then "Barks Studio" on my webpage:
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
BTW. Please avoid words like "claws". I think such terms make e-mails
unnescessarily partial sounding and people can build their own opinions
on what they hear and/or see.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
TKlein28
Disney comics Digest V98 #70
Message 48 -
1998-03-07 at 14:34:28
JOHN:
Another digest with solid magenta background, due to HTML code, but I'm using
a workaround, which I recommend: when you open the message, select the entire
text, open a new email and paste into the message area. For me, at least, the
background color is gone.
Todd
Another digest with solid magenta background, due to HTML code, but I'm using
a workaround, which I recommend: when you open the message, select the entire
text, open a new email and paste into the message area. For me, at least, the
background color is gone.
Todd
Donald D. Markstein
Junkville Journal
Message 49 -
1998-03-07 at 16:36:17
HARRY FLUKS --
>> "Probably because of the Cajun influence, your area pronounces
the word closest to the French way..."
In the part of Louisiana where I grew up (New Orleans), it
would have been more the Creole influence. Cajuns are found more
in the western part of the state. There is a very sharp
linguistic distinction between the two waves of French
settlement. Although everyone in New Orleans grows up speaking
English (unlike some of the rural areas of the Cajun country),
there is a definite Creole-French influence in our style of
English. For example, we pronounce "mayonnaise" the French way,
unlike any other part of America.
DANNY COENEN --
I can say with fair assurance that no comic-book
adaptation of THE BLACK CAULDRON was issued in America. I was a
good deal older than seven at the time (pushing 40, in fact),
and had become fairly good at seeking out comics I was interested
in -- and I was trying to maintain a complete set of Disney
animated feature adaptations.
Quack, Don
>> "Probably because of the Cajun influence, your area pronounces
the word closest to the French way..."
In the part of Louisiana where I grew up (New Orleans), it
would have been more the Creole influence. Cajuns are found more
in the western part of the state. There is a very sharp
linguistic distinction between the two waves of French
settlement. Although everyone in New Orleans grows up speaking
English (unlike some of the rural areas of the Cajun country),
there is a definite Creole-French influence in our style of
English. For example, we pronounce "mayonnaise" the French way,
unlike any other part of America.
DANNY COENEN --
I can say with fair assurance that no comic-book
adaptation of THE BLACK CAULDRON was issued in America. I was a
good deal older than seven at the time (pushing 40, in fact),
and had become fairly good at seeking out comics I was interested
in -- and I was trying to maintain a complete set of Disney
animated feature adaptations.
Quack, Don
Per-Erik Malmström
Long stories by Van Horn...
Message 50 -
1998-03-07 at 19:07:55
JONATHAN:
> BTW, has William Van Horn done any long (more than 12 pages) stories for
> Egmont since this one?
Uh, I'm sorry I haven't answered this one earlier but I've been a few weeks
behind with the mail. Anyway, good news is that Van Horn has done a new,
long story. It was published in Sweden about 6 months ago. The english
title should be something like "Ice in the cargo" and it's 18-pages long.
It's really something to look forward to;-)
Egmont have at least 3 other finished stories by Van Horn, that for some
reason haven't been published yet. I'm not sure if any of those stories are
longer then 12 pages, though...
Best Wishes
Per-Erik
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> BTW, has William Van Horn done any long (more than 12 pages) stories for
> Egmont since this one?
Uh, I'm sorry I haven't answered this one earlier but I've been a few weeks
behind with the mail. Anyway, good news is that Van Horn has done a new,
long story. It was published in Sweden about 6 months ago. The english
title should be something like "Ice in the cargo" and it's 18-pages long.
It's really something to look forward to;-)
Egmont have at least 3 other finished stories by Van Horn, that for some
reason haven't been published yet. I'm not sure if any of those stories are
longer then 12 pages, though...
Best Wishes
Per-Erik
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(Email removed)
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Mark A. Semich
Barks' "Life and Times" hardcover question
Message 51 -
1998-03-07 at 19:24:11
The latest Bud Plant catalog lists:
---
UNCLE SCROOGE McDUCK: His Life and Times Hardcover
A best seller! By Carl Barks. 12 full-length Four Color adventures,
printed from the original b&w negatives and beautifully recolored by
Peter Ledger. A brand-new 12th story, written and drawn by Barks,
appears exclusively in this edition. This huge volume weighs 5 lbs and
is a delight, whether for yourself, as a gift to young fans or veteran
collectors! The soft cover edition is out of print.
---
** "brand new 12th story"?!? ** Huh? Just what is this? Has Carl
Barks done a new story, or is this an old one that has never been
reprinted anywhere else? Anyone already have this book?
---
UNCLE SCROOGE McDUCK: His Life and Times Hardcover
A best seller! By Carl Barks. 12 full-length Four Color adventures,
printed from the original b&w negatives and beautifully recolored by
Peter Ledger. A brand-new 12th story, written and drawn by Barks,
appears exclusively in this edition. This huge volume weighs 5 lbs and
is a delight, whether for yourself, as a gift to young fans or veteran
collectors! The soft cover edition is out of print.
---
** "brand new 12th story"?!? ** Huh? Just what is this? Has Carl
Barks done a new story, or is this an old one that has never been
reprinted anywhere else? Anyone already have this book?
Francois Willot
Picsou 314
Message 52 -
1998-03-07 at 21:55:58
The last Picsou Magazine issue (# 314, published three days ago), is a
special Marco Rota issue!
The article about Rota is interesting (the information in it are taken
from "I Disney Italiani" and "Zio Paperone"). With this text, there are
three excellent stories (from Egmont) drawn and written by Marco Rota.
BTW, does anyone know if "Billion in the Hole" was published in "Zio
Paperone" with a cover by Rota showing Scrooge, his money bin and an
ant?
One can also find in this Picsou issue the first publication in France
of "DD's Atom Bomb", with a short introduction to the story and an
illustration by Don Rosa with Professor Mollicule and Professor Sleezy.
This version unfortunately is the Barks Librairy version, and not the
original one.
Francois
special Marco Rota issue!
The article about Rota is interesting (the information in it are taken
from "I Disney Italiani" and "Zio Paperone"). With this text, there are
three excellent stories (from Egmont) drawn and written by Marco Rota.
BTW, does anyone know if "Billion in the Hole" was published in "Zio
Paperone" with a cover by Rota showing Scrooge, his money bin and an
ant?
One can also find in this Picsou issue the first publication in France
of "DD's Atom Bomb", with a short introduction to the story and an
illustration by Don Rosa with Professor Mollicule and Professor Sleezy.
This version unfortunately is the Barks Librairy version, and not the
original one.
Francois
Luna Storta
A lot of things!
Message 53 -
1998-03-07 at 23:00:50
Hello,=20
In Topolino Libretto #2205 there is a bad story, but which=20
will have an important role in the future (IMO): the story=20
(Topolino e la tromba di Satchmouse =3D Mickey and Satchmouse's=20
trumpet) is a sort of hommage to Luois Armstrong (BTW one of=20
my preferred musicians, I LOVE his voice!), written by=20
Gianfranco Cordara and drawn by Paolo Mottura in a very=20
unorthodox style, too dynamyc and too much distorting of the=20
charachters silouhettes. But (and this is the new) for the=20
first time, as long as I can recall, since Gottfredson's=20
times there is a coloured charachter: a mouse plaiyng the=20
role of Louis Armstrong! I don't recall at all an italian=20
author using a coloured mouse in any story (even Mister Bunz=20
from Ula Ula was white) so I think it's an important thing to=20
notice.
I put a scan of this page on my website with a translation in=20
english of the ballons:
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney/satchmo.jpg
So what do you think about this? And are there any other=20
stories (of course excluding Gottfredson) with coloured=20
charachters in Disney Universe?=20
IMPORTANT: I REALLY HOPE I used the right word saying=20
"coloured", I don't want to offend anyone nor to be=20
considered a =E7*!$% racialist!!!!!!!
While I'm talking about the recent issues of Topolino I have=20
two more things to say: the first one is a "BRAVO" to Corrado=20
Mastantuono for his really exhilarating story "Paperino e Bum=20
Bum pasticcieri pasticcioni" with a semi-new charachter (I=20
already saw him, but can't recall where...): Bum Bum!!!=20
Really one of the best stories in the last issues of=20
Topolino, that recently is offering as very poor stories:=20
infact the average printing is falling down: now has reached=20
thew number of 396,284 copies: in the past it was always over=20
500,000 copies (while during the 60ties-70ties it was about=20
1,000,000).
Ah, yet one more thing: I always saw Magica de'Spell as a=20
charachter VERY BEAUTIFUL: she was inspires to Barks from=20
Sofia Loren, IMHO much of her success is due to her charm:=20
even Rockerduck senior shows interest in her in Rosa's Lo$=20
(Hi Don!). Now some authors (including the historical ones=20
such as Luciano Gatto) are presenting her as a fat, shorty=20
and graceless duck?=20
Well, now it's time for great news! It's now for sale in all=20
specialized bookshops my second book "Il Topolino di Floyd=20
Gottfredson" (Gottfredson's Mickey Mouse)! I know it's not in=20
the best of taste to brag about it, but I'm happy about this,=20
and I need to let it know to as much people as possible! ;-)
One last thing is about the Disney comics webring: anyone who=20
needs help, please e-mail me privately!
Ciao, and thabnks for you patience of reading all this=20
loooong posting!
- Paolo
http://www.confor.it/disney/home.htm
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In Topolino Libretto #2205 there is a bad story, but which=20
will have an important role in the future (IMO): the story=20
(Topolino e la tromba di Satchmouse =3D Mickey and Satchmouse's=20
trumpet) is a sort of hommage to Luois Armstrong (BTW one of=20
my preferred musicians, I LOVE his voice!), written by=20
Gianfranco Cordara and drawn by Paolo Mottura in a very=20
unorthodox style, too dynamyc and too much distorting of the=20
charachters silouhettes. But (and this is the new) for the=20
first time, as long as I can recall, since Gottfredson's=20
times there is a coloured charachter: a mouse plaiyng the=20
role of Louis Armstrong! I don't recall at all an italian=20
author using a coloured mouse in any story (even Mister Bunz=20
from Ula Ula was white) so I think it's an important thing to=20
notice.
I put a scan of this page on my website with a translation in=20
english of the ballons:
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney/satchmo.jpg
So what do you think about this? And are there any other=20
stories (of course excluding Gottfredson) with coloured=20
charachters in Disney Universe?=20
IMPORTANT: I REALLY HOPE I used the right word saying=20
"coloured", I don't want to offend anyone nor to be=20
considered a =E7*!$% racialist!!!!!!!
While I'm talking about the recent issues of Topolino I have=20
two more things to say: the first one is a "BRAVO" to Corrado=20
Mastantuono for his really exhilarating story "Paperino e Bum=20
Bum pasticcieri pasticcioni" with a semi-new charachter (I=20
already saw him, but can't recall where...): Bum Bum!!!=20
Really one of the best stories in the last issues of=20
Topolino, that recently is offering as very poor stories:=20
infact the average printing is falling down: now has reached=20
thew number of 396,284 copies: in the past it was always over=20
500,000 copies (while during the 60ties-70ties it was about=20
1,000,000).
Ah, yet one more thing: I always saw Magica de'Spell as a=20
charachter VERY BEAUTIFUL: she was inspires to Barks from=20
Sofia Loren, IMHO much of her success is due to her charm:=20
even Rockerduck senior shows interest in her in Rosa's Lo$=20
(Hi Don!). Now some authors (including the historical ones=20
such as Luciano Gatto) are presenting her as a fat, shorty=20
and graceless duck?=20
Well, now it's time for great news! It's now for sale in all=20
specialized bookshops my second book "Il Topolino di Floyd=20
Gottfredson" (Gottfredson's Mickey Mouse)! I know it's not in=20
the best of taste to brag about it, but I'm happy about this,=20
and I need to let it know to as much people as possible! ;-)
One last thing is about the Disney comics webring: anyone who=20
needs help, please e-mail me privately!
Ciao, and thabnks for you patience of reading all this=20
loooong posting!
- Paolo
http://www.confor.it/disney/home.htm
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Arthur De Wolf
Long stories by Van Horn...
Message 54 -
1998-03-07 at 23:42:59
Hi!
PER-ERIK:
> The english title should be something like
> "Ice in the cargo" and it's 18-pages long.
Isn't that actually "The Saphead Factor", published
in Donald Duck Adventures 48?
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf
PER-ERIK:
> The english title should be something like
> "Ice in the cargo" and it's 18-pages long.
Isn't that actually "The Saphead Factor", published
in Donald Duck Adventures 48?
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf
Carey M. Furlong
Disney comics Digest V98 #71
Message 55 -
1998-03-07 at 23:52:50
Mark A. Semich <(Email removed)> wrote:> ---
> UNCLE SCROOGE McDUCK: His Life and Times Hardcover
>
> A best seller! By Carl Barks. 12 full-length Four Color adventures,
> printed from the original b&w negatives and beautifully recolored by
> Peter Ledger. A brand-new 12th story, written and drawn by Barks,
> appears exclusively in this edition. This huge volume weighs 5 lbs and
> is a delight, whether for yourself, as a gift to young fans or veteran
> collectors! The soft cover edition is out of print.
> ---
>
> ** "brand new 12th story"?!? ** Huh? Just what is this? Has Carl
> Barks done a new story, or is this an old one that has never been
> reprinted anywhere else? Anyone already have this book?
This is certainly another reprinting of the 1981 book, The Life and
Times of Scrooge McDuck, originally published by Celestial Arts.
The 12th story is, "Go Slowly Sands of Time," a special
version of the story done by Barks for this book, but never printed
in a comic book. The book is a classic. You can even order the
reprinted edition online from Amazon.com.
- "Blasted kids must think I'm a whelcher!"
S. McDuck (US3 - OS 495)
Carey Furlong; Huntington Beach, California;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
> UNCLE SCROOGE McDUCK: His Life and Times Hardcover
>
> A best seller! By Carl Barks. 12 full-length Four Color adventures,
> printed from the original b&w negatives and beautifully recolored by
> Peter Ledger. A brand-new 12th story, written and drawn by Barks,
> appears exclusively in this edition. This huge volume weighs 5 lbs and
> is a delight, whether for yourself, as a gift to young fans or veteran
> collectors! The soft cover edition is out of print.
> ---
>
> ** "brand new 12th story"?!? ** Huh? Just what is this? Has Carl
> Barks done a new story, or is this an old one that has never been
> reprinted anywhere else? Anyone already have this book?
This is certainly another reprinting of the 1981 book, The Life and
Times of Scrooge McDuck, originally published by Celestial Arts.
The 12th story is, "Go Slowly Sands of Time," a special
version of the story done by Barks for this book, but never printed
in a comic book. The book is a classic. You can even order the
reprinted edition online from Amazon.com.
- "Blasted kids must think I'm a whelcher!"
S. McDuck (US3 - OS 495)
Carey Furlong; Huntington Beach, California;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
Per-Erik Malmström
Sorry...
Message 56 -
1998-03-08 at 00:16:43
I wrote:
> > The english title should be something like
> > "Ice in the cargo" and it's 18-pages long.
Arthur answered:
> Isn't that actually "The Saphead Factor", published
> in Donald Duck Adventures 48?
Yeah, you're right.
I got the title mixed up with another Van Horn story.
Gawrsh, I'm really glad you can't see me right now, It would be like
looking at a tomato;-)
Best Wishes
Per-Erik
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(Email removed)
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> > The english title should be something like
> > "Ice in the cargo" and it's 18-pages long.
Arthur answered:
> Isn't that actually "The Saphead Factor", published
> in Donald Duck Adventures 48?
Yeah, you're right.
I got the title mixed up with another Van Horn story.
Gawrsh, I'm really glad you can't see me right now, It would be like
looking at a tomato;-)
Best Wishes
Per-Erik
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(Email removed)
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Luca Boschi
Picsou 314
Message 57 -
1998-03-08 at 00:45:02
Hi, Francois!
> The article about Rota is interesting (the information in it are taken
> from "I Disney Italiani" and "Zio Paperone").
Happy to know that our book still is useful to someone in the World!
It should be published again, with a big amount of new text!
> BTW, does anyone know if "Billion in the Hole" was published in "Zio
> Paperone" with a cover by Rota showing Scrooge, his money bin and an
> ant?
No, in that issue there are no Rota stories. But from the next one,
which shall come out next week, the Andold saga shall begin, starting
with the first, long story, drawn for Italian market. For four months,
each issue shall introduce new stories of Andold in the *original*,
uncut version (unpublished in USA and northern countries).
The story you mention maybe is virtually unpublished in Italy, or...
Is it an "underground" story?
Quack to everybody!
Luca
> The article about Rota is interesting (the information in it are taken
> from "I Disney Italiani" and "Zio Paperone").
Happy to know that our book still is useful to someone in the World!
It should be published again, with a big amount of new text!
> BTW, does anyone know if "Billion in the Hole" was published in "Zio
> Paperone" with a cover by Rota showing Scrooge, his money bin and an
> ant?
No, in that issue there are no Rota stories. But from the next one,
which shall come out next week, the Andold saga shall begin, starting
with the first, long story, drawn for Italian market. For four months,
each issue shall introduce new stories of Andold in the *original*,
uncut version (unpublished in USA and northern countries).
The story you mention maybe is virtually unpublished in Italy, or...
Is it an "underground" story?
Quack to everybody!
Luca
Katie Sullivan
US: HLAT Book
Message 58 -
1998-03-08 at 01:34:28
> UNCLE SCROOGE McDUCK: His Life and Times Hardcover
> A best seller! By Carl Barks. 12 full-length Four Color adventures,
> printed from the original b&w negatives and beautifully recolored by
> Peter Ledger. A brand-new 12th story, written and drawn by Barks,
> appears exclusively in this edition. This huge volume weighs 5 lbs
> and
> is a delight, whether for yourself, as a gift to young fans or veteran
>
> collectors! The soft cover edition is out of print.
> ---
> ** "brand new 12th story"?!? ** Huh? Just what is this? Has Carl
> Barks done a new story, or is this an old one that has never been
> reprinted anywhere else? Anyone already have this book?
I was fortunate enough to locate a copy in the Magic Kingdom at Walt
Disney World when I was there in October (?) of 1989. It's a HUGE book,
375 pages long, and much larger in size than a comic book. It has a
forward by George Lucas of Star Wars fame, and background information by
Carl Barks, including many historical photos of Barks and his
associates.
The book includes the following stories, all restored as best as
possible to their original condition, (by replacing censored sections,
as in the Blackjack fight scene), etc:
Back to the Klondike
Trouble From Long Ago (the Horseradish Story with Chisel McSue)
Tralla La
The Seven Cities of Cibola
The Lemming with the Locket
Land Beneath the Ground
The Second-Richest Duck
Land of the Pygmy Indians
Island in the Sky
The Many Faces of Magica DeSpell
Micro-Ducks From Outer Space
The "new" story mentioned in the quote at the beginning of this message
is called "Go Slowly, Sands of Time." The credits in the book say it
was written in 1968, drawn in 1980 and first published (in this book) in
1981. It is not a comic book story, but instead like an illustrated
children's story book.
*Spoilers on this story ahead*
The plot is somewhat similar to "Tralla La". Scrooge is feeling his
age, and decides to seek out the secret of longevity. He and the four
nephews go to a Himalayan valley called the Vale of Khunza, and ask the
natives how they live so long. They give him lots of advice, much of it
bad. He drinks tea until he turns yellow and green, gets stung by
supposedly therapeutic bees, et cetera. Finally he meets the treasurer
of the valley, who says the secret to longevity is bathing in money!
Scrooge realizes that you're only as young as you feel, and enjoying
yourself if the most important thing. Rejuvenated, he goes back to
Duckburg.
**End of spoilers**
This really is a beautiful book, (though quite expensive), and I
encourage anyone who can to get their feathered hands on a copy.
If anyone wants to know more about this book, let me know. I have my
copy sitting in my lap at this moment.
Quackcerely,
Katie Sullivan
(Email removed)
> A best seller! By Carl Barks. 12 full-length Four Color adventures,
> printed from the original b&w negatives and beautifully recolored by
> Peter Ledger. A brand-new 12th story, written and drawn by Barks,
> appears exclusively in this edition. This huge volume weighs 5 lbs
> and
> is a delight, whether for yourself, as a gift to young fans or veteran
>
> collectors! The soft cover edition is out of print.
> ---
> ** "brand new 12th story"?!? ** Huh? Just what is this? Has Carl
> Barks done a new story, or is this an old one that has never been
> reprinted anywhere else? Anyone already have this book?
I was fortunate enough to locate a copy in the Magic Kingdom at Walt
Disney World when I was there in October (?) of 1989. It's a HUGE book,
375 pages long, and much larger in size than a comic book. It has a
forward by George Lucas of Star Wars fame, and background information by
Carl Barks, including many historical photos of Barks and his
associates.
The book includes the following stories, all restored as best as
possible to their original condition, (by replacing censored sections,
as in the Blackjack fight scene), etc:
Back to the Klondike
Trouble From Long Ago (the Horseradish Story with Chisel McSue)
Tralla La
The Seven Cities of Cibola
The Lemming with the Locket
Land Beneath the Ground
The Second-Richest Duck
Land of the Pygmy Indians
Island in the Sky
The Many Faces of Magica DeSpell
Micro-Ducks From Outer Space
The "new" story mentioned in the quote at the beginning of this message
is called "Go Slowly, Sands of Time." The credits in the book say it
was written in 1968, drawn in 1980 and first published (in this book) in
1981. It is not a comic book story, but instead like an illustrated
children's story book.
*Spoilers on this story ahead*
The plot is somewhat similar to "Tralla La". Scrooge is feeling his
age, and decides to seek out the secret of longevity. He and the four
nephews go to a Himalayan valley called the Vale of Khunza, and ask the
natives how they live so long. They give him lots of advice, much of it
bad. He drinks tea until he turns yellow and green, gets stung by
supposedly therapeutic bees, et cetera. Finally he meets the treasurer
of the valley, who says the secret to longevity is bathing in money!
Scrooge realizes that you're only as young as you feel, and enjoying
yourself if the most important thing. Rejuvenated, he goes back to
Duckburg.
**End of spoilers**
This really is a beautiful book, (though quite expensive), and I
encourage anyone who can to get their feathered hands on a copy.
If anyone wants to know more about this book, let me know. I have my
copy sitting in my lap at this moment.
Quackcerely,
Katie Sullivan
(Email removed)
Markoff
Of Katie and Per-Erik and Paolo
Message 59 -
1998-03-08 at 01:37:05
KATIE:
>Well, my subject line is "nostalgia", which will sound weird to some of
>you when you see what I'm talking about. But since I'm only 18 years
>old, things from even 5 years ago seem like nostaglic. Anyway, on to my
>point...
Ditto! (I'm only 17...)
>I also ran across some other Scarpa translations, and I really enjoyed
>them. Just makes me wish I spoke Italian! (Although 5 years of Spanish
>study does clue me in on a few cognates.)
Ditto again! That defintely was an important springboard for me. (Francesco,
Marco, and Fabrizio all know what I'm talking about...:-)
PER-ERIK:
The Van Horn story you mention isn't so new--the Egmont printing (at least
in Denmark) dates from the Summer of 1997. And it's been printed in the USA,
circa December of that year (in fact it's the one mentioned in my message
you refer to, "The Saphead Factor".)
PAOLO:
>IMPORTANT: I REALLY HOPE I used the right word saying=20
>"coloured", I don't want to offend anyone nor to be=20
>considered a =E7*!$% racialist!!!!!!!
I'm afraid you goofed--"colored" went out with the days of Rev. Martin
Luther King Jr. The current term seems to be either "black" or
"African-American," anlthough not being one of those people (whatever their
name) I'm probably not the one to judge.
As for your question about precedents of this situation in Mouse/Duck
stories, there are several Barksian "Africa" stories with such people as
"natives," including "Darkest Africa" and "Voodoo Hoodoo." There's a
non-Barks Duck story which you probably already know, but I think is
relevant to mention to our non-Italian list members. "Zio Paperone e la
calunnia colossale" ("Uncle Scrooge and the Colossal Slander," TOPOLINO 715)
by Guido Martina and Giovan Battista Carpi has a scene where Rockerduck
attempts to infiltrate Scrooge's ship crew by painting himself black (having
already failed with an equally un-PC "Chinese" disguise), addressing Scrooge
as "capo bianco" ("white boss"). Scrooge, having seen Rocker through, shouts
"Negro fasullo!" ("False negro!") while washing away the latter's disguise.
The story later shows a scene of a "real" African native with VERY un-PC
large lips. Somehow I have very little expectations of seeing this
uncensored in a Gladstone mag. This story in particular jumps out at me
because it comes not from the unenlightened Colonial period (1880-1960, but
especially blatant in the 1930s, at least in popular entertainment), but
from the post-MLK year of 1969! (BTW, the "Colossal Slander" in the title
has nothing to do with race--it refers to Rockerduck's accusing Scrooge of
sabotaging the former's ship.)
--Jonathan Markoff
"Coraggio! Reginella non ha mai spaventato nessuno!"
--Rodolfo Cimino, "Paperino e l'avventura sottomarina" (a story free of
un-PC references! :-)
>Well, my subject line is "nostalgia", which will sound weird to some of
>you when you see what I'm talking about. But since I'm only 18 years
>old, things from even 5 years ago seem like nostaglic. Anyway, on to my
>point...
Ditto! (I'm only 17...)
>I also ran across some other Scarpa translations, and I really enjoyed
>them. Just makes me wish I spoke Italian! (Although 5 years of Spanish
>study does clue me in on a few cognates.)
Ditto again! That defintely was an important springboard for me. (Francesco,
Marco, and Fabrizio all know what I'm talking about...:-)
PER-ERIK:
The Van Horn story you mention isn't so new--the Egmont printing (at least
in Denmark) dates from the Summer of 1997. And it's been printed in the USA,
circa December of that year (in fact it's the one mentioned in my message
you refer to, "The Saphead Factor".)
PAOLO:
>IMPORTANT: I REALLY HOPE I used the right word saying=20
>"coloured", I don't want to offend anyone nor to be=20
>considered a =E7*!$% racialist!!!!!!!
I'm afraid you goofed--"colored" went out with the days of Rev. Martin
Luther King Jr. The current term seems to be either "black" or
"African-American," anlthough not being one of those people (whatever their
name) I'm probably not the one to judge.
As for your question about precedents of this situation in Mouse/Duck
stories, there are several Barksian "Africa" stories with such people as
"natives," including "Darkest Africa" and "Voodoo Hoodoo." There's a
non-Barks Duck story which you probably already know, but I think is
relevant to mention to our non-Italian list members. "Zio Paperone e la
calunnia colossale" ("Uncle Scrooge and the Colossal Slander," TOPOLINO 715)
by Guido Martina and Giovan Battista Carpi has a scene where Rockerduck
attempts to infiltrate Scrooge's ship crew by painting himself black (having
already failed with an equally un-PC "Chinese" disguise), addressing Scrooge
as "capo bianco" ("white boss"). Scrooge, having seen Rocker through, shouts
"Negro fasullo!" ("False negro!") while washing away the latter's disguise.
The story later shows a scene of a "real" African native with VERY un-PC
large lips. Somehow I have very little expectations of seeing this
uncensored in a Gladstone mag. This story in particular jumps out at me
because it comes not from the unenlightened Colonial period (1880-1960, but
especially blatant in the 1930s, at least in popular entertainment), but
from the post-MLK year of 1969! (BTW, the "Colossal Slander" in the title
has nothing to do with race--it refers to Rockerduck's accusing Scrooge of
sabotaging the former's ship.)
--Jonathan Markoff
"Coraggio! Reginella non ha mai spaventato nessuno!"
--Rodolfo Cimino, "Paperino e l'avventura sottomarina" (a story free of
un-PC references! :-)
Katie Sullivan
Scans
Message 60 -
1998-03-08 at 04:01:49
I did some scanning this afternoon. I added three new pictures I've
drawn to Miss Quackfaster's Gallery at
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/quack.htm
I also put a picture online of some fun I had on Christmas day, when I
received my copy of the Lo$ book. My parents wrapped it up in a box
with a bunch of fake gold coins and paper money. I arranged these fake
treasures around a real treasure: the signed Hearts of the Yukon
lithograph! I finally got the film developed, so here's a scan of two
of the photos. Sorry for the fuzziness of the photos. They're a bit
blurry.
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/lithopics.jpg
Enjoy! Feedback very welcome!
Katie Sullivan
(Email removed)
(Email removed)
"Do something, Scrooge, you big dope!" ~ both Scrooge and Goldie,
Hearts of the Yukon by Don Rosa
;-)
drawn to Miss Quackfaster's Gallery at
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/quack.htm
I also put a picture online of some fun I had on Christmas day, when I
received my copy of the Lo$ book. My parents wrapped it up in a box
with a bunch of fake gold coins and paper money. I arranged these fake
treasures around a real treasure: the signed Hearts of the Yukon
lithograph! I finally got the film developed, so here's a scan of two
of the photos. Sorry for the fuzziness of the photos. They're a bit
blurry.
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/lithopics.jpg
Enjoy! Feedback very welcome!
Katie Sullivan
(Email removed)
(Email removed)
"Do something, Scrooge, you big dope!" ~ both Scrooge and Goldie,
Hearts of the Yukon by Don Rosa
;-)