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Fluks, H.W.
DAVID:

> I've noticed a few early S-coded (or X-coded) stories with
> Murry's art, but they're printed codeless in Australian comics.

All S-coded Murry stories are in the Disney comics Database, thanks to a
Paul Murry index by Martin Olsen. If you find a Murry story that's not
there, let me know!

--Harry.
(See
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/creators/paul-murry-pind
ex.html - a new version of the Database is in the making...)
Luca Boschi
Hi, Dave, and Hi everybody!

> I've seen "Paolino Paperino" on Donald's mailbox in some
> recent Italian comics (including at least one translated Egmont story, I
> think). So the full version of the name is used *once* in a while.

For what concerns some recent stories (included those I write,
sometimes), Paperino is also *always* called also Paolino (on his
mailbox, in the letters' address he recieves and so on). And, in some
articles about him, his english (second) name is *still* also
Fauntleroy, like in Forties. But it's true that for many years some
italian story men forgot to use this "Paolino" (and many other
"details", I recently discovered; for ex.: G. G. Dalmasso, longtime
editor of Disney comics for Mondadori, ignored that Gus Goos was
Donald's Cousin and Grandma's Nephew).

> PAOLO:
> >BTW yesterday I bought "I Maestri Disney #9 featuring Paul Murry, with
> 2
> >unpublished stories by him (and some editorials from Alberto Becattini
> >and Luca Boschi)!
> By "unpublished" stories do you mean that they had never been
> published in Italy before...

Yes, David. So it is. They are two stories coming from an old DELL
Disneyland Special, with $crooge and the Seven Dwarfs, and with Don
and Pinocchio (the Jolly Berries story, you know?). For some reasons
they were never used by Mondadori. Also some other stories by him
never were printed in Italy: some onepagers, old Li'l Bad Wolf's ones,
one Mickey Alias Pumpkin (super secret agent) story and so on.

One more "professional" question to you. I'm planning to use some old
S-coded Al Hubbard's stories with Fethry and OO-Duck for italian
publications. Do you think it's necessary to ask for them in the
Disney Archives in Burbank for getting the proofs, or maybe you have
some of 'em at Egmont?
Indeed, I'll ask something for you about this argument privately.

Bye!

Luca
Donald D. Markstein
The new issue of HOGAN'S ALLEY is out (at last), containing an
interview with Marc Davis. (As you'll no-doubt recall, his name
came up several months ago, as the current victim, uh, I mean,
client, of the former business managers of Carl Barks.) The
magazine costs $5.95, and is available from Bull Moose Publishing
Corp., P.O. Box 47684, Atlanta, GA 30362, USA, and of course, a
couple bucks for p&h would not be amiss.

This issue also contains a comparison of Hal Foster and Howard
Pyle, an interview with Jim Scancarelli (current writer/artist
of GASOLINE ALLEY), and lots of other interesting stuff, to a
total of a healthily thick 144 pages.

SPEAKING OF WHICH --
Anybody know how things are going with the lawsuits? I
hope Barks is doing okay.

DAVE RAWSON --
You still here? Haven't heard from you in awhile.
Just wanted to mention that I enjoyed Gyro in "All That
Jazz" and Donald in "Hayseed", which appeared in ANDERS AND #s
98-18 and 98-19, respectively. The Gyro story was a neat little
six-pager, subject to the limitations of that length, but I did
enjoy some of the little touches, like his yard being polluted
from all his years of inventing. (There might be a story or two
just in that, in fact.) (Too bad the credits were [accidentally,
I assume] left off.)
I particularly liked "Hayseed", which made excellent use
of Donald's propensity for sudden obsessive enthusiasm. The gags
were excellent, and grew naturally out of the situation. The
Nephews' contract idea, while not directly taken from anything
I've read, was reminiscent of Barks, and I do enjoy those little
echoes of Barks now and then. (And this time, you were actually
credited!) Looking forward to more, as always.

Quack, Don=
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
A few days ago I received in the mail my subscription copy of "Zio Paperone"
#103, and it contained a "surprise", the magnitude of which I didn't expect;
namely, it contained Part II of Marco Rota's Mac Paperin (Andold Wild Duck)
saga, titled "Le avventure di Mac Paperin: L' arrosto della salvezza". I had
heard that when Gladstone had printed that story back in 1993, they had
significantly shortened the original version of the story, but I had never
imagined the real extent of these cuts on the story's quality.

Well, the original (published back in 1980) is a 36-page story, while
Gladstone's 1993 version had turned it into a 26(!!!)-page story. I wonder
if we can really continue talking about these two being the same story!

The cuts had been of every type and form: whole page-sequences of action
(witness the sequence where Mac Paperin and Krack fall into the well),
individual 2-3 panel sequences with juicy gags scattered throughout the
story, even half-page spectacular splash panels were transformed into
regular-sized panels. All in all, the story was transformed to fit the then
32-page DDA comic book--unless other explanations exist for the wild cuts.
At the same time, the cuts turned an A into a B story.

I wonder how an artist feels when he sees his works treated like this.

Cheers,

Archontis
Mike Schneiderath
Hi!
I just took a look at the preview of next weeks "Micky Maus Magazine"
and that issue (#21) will have a a small comic as a extra inside!

The ad says it is "The smallest Disney Comic of the World" and it
looks as if it will have the Size of a box of matches (well hard to
tell from one photo). A simple magnifying glass will also be in that
issue.

The cover of the comic shows a Duck fighting a giant
ant....well maybe it is more a micro Duck fighting a usual ant, but
that looks a lot like a well known Barks story to me!

Bye!

Mike Martin
M. Mitchell Marmel
At 12:47 AM -0400 5/12/98, Don Rosa wrote:

>how to save these issues without risking them stinking up my file cabinet
>after a few months or years. I'm gonna try laying them outside in the open
>air for a few days and see what happens. Peeeee-yew!

Hmm. Zip-Loc bags, perhaps?

-MMM-
Per-Erik Malmström
> HARRY:
> >Pat and Shelly Block have *written* a lot of stories for Egmont in
> >Denmark.
DAVID:
> And drawn one too, recently (it'll probably be published next
> year). But yes, the two are mainly writers most of the time, now.

Did they draw it together? I thought Shelly only wrote stories.

One of the many talented writers at Egmont's is named Hedman. Does anyone
know what his first name is20 I think I've seen Per, Peter, Per-Erik and maybe even something else.=20 Talking about Egmont, is Peter H=E4rdfeldt still working there? He was= the only hired drawer at Egmont a few years ago, but know he seem to have disappeared. At least he isn't mentioned on their homepage.=20 Best, Per-Erik ------------------------------------------------------------------ (Email removed) ------------------------------------------------------------------ ?=
Francois Willot
Claudia:

>But "Il Matrimonio di Paperone" exists! I remember reading it a few
>years ago... I'm sure the Italian contributors on this list can help me
>trace it back. Was it drawn by Cavazzano, or am I wrong?
>
>Was this story ever published outside Italy?

Sure, it was published here, in Mickey-Parade 112, if I remember right.
This is the kind of story that I really like, particularly with Massimo
De Vita's art. I also remember another good story by De Vita, I TL
1218-A, "Zio Paperone e la campagna elettoralle", written by Martina.

>Other messages seem to suggest that every reprint of a story imply that
>the coloring is re-done. I have always thought that the coloring was
>made only once, for the first publication, by the author of the
>drawings or by someone else, and then it did not need to be re-done for
>the following reprints, unless the publisher was for some reason not
>satisfied by the original.

I can only talk about a few magazines published by Hachette. In
"Picsou", half of the coloring job is done by a studio in Italy, and the
other half by Hachette, but it's *not* the original coloring. In the
"Journal de Mickey" or "Super Picsou", the coloring usually is also a
new coloring, even when the story was already published in France. I
don't know why they do all that new work.

But for "Minnie" for instance, the coloring is (sometimes at least) the
same coloring as in the original "Minni" publication.

Francois
Francois Willot
Don:

How could you think that the new Picsou issue could smell of garlic *by*
*error*? Well, I guess I used the wrong words mistakenly in my message.

I did lay the issue two weeks outside in the open air, and after that I
am (partially) reassured to find that the smell seems not as powerful as
before.
PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO,BARRETO
Hi everybody...

Please excuse me for all the trouble about the scanned story URLs!
Now, for some explanation, read on:

DON MARKSTEIN:

> I just checked www.pobox.com/~barreto/superomao01.jpg, and
>it said the page no longer exists. I can understand not wanting to
>leave it up forever, but wow!

The site *does* exist! There should be some trouble with Pobox
redirection service (they haven't updated the site info, or worse,
they have something "personal" against FortuneCity...). However, the
www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/trousers/*.* addresses should work fine
for you -- since I can inform you what's exactly for the "*.*" --
please read on.

RICH:

I don't have here (in the office) the user *number* for the
aforementioned FortuneCity site, so I can't pass on the real working
URLs (the ones that worked for you) to the whole ML. Please let us
all informed. Thanks!

[]s
P.C.Barreto
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Katie Sullivan
> I wrote: > I used scans from Lo$ or Theodore Roosevelt to illustrate a report I did for Social
> Studies class last week.
> And Rosa responded: Oh, no! You shouldn't have done that!!! Now Disney will claim it owns your
> entire homeroom!

LOL! I *did* put a credit at the bottom identifying you as the artist and the Walt Disney Co. as the
copyright holder. So hopefully no mice in black suits will show up at my door! ;-)

I have recently been busy "translating" Hamlet into "regular" English for the Shakespare-Impaired. I
remember the DuckTales episode "Much Ado About Scrooge" was chock full of Shakespare references. Any
Hamlet-related duck comics you all can think of?

Katie Q
SRoweCanoe
Sorry for the off-topic posting (the second time for this), Alberto B. I have
the data you need but neither Jerry Bails or myself can reach you - I've tried
using two different e-mail addresses. If non-Disney Al T is sorta on topic
here, maybe I should just post that info here.

Sorry -
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe
comics include

8pp Doug (now called Disney's Doug) Doug's Gravy Situation
Craig Boldman / Matt Maley JZ337
2pp Battleman * Greatest Vechicals and Play sets
(sorta parody ad?)
Brett Lewis / Chris Jordan JZ335
4pp Timon & Pumbaa * Cooking Clash
(so what are African animals doing in a tv studio?)
Jack Enyart / John Costanza & Dave Hunt
1p Film Forum with Fizzle & Iceburg * Return of Repeat Offenders
Chris Nieratko ? Chris Jordan jz330

next issue on sale June 16 with Simpsons?Mulan?
Frank Fabian
CLAUDIA:

>Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 09:41:36 +0200
>From: (Email removed) (Claudia Rege Cambrin)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: A technical question
>
>I have a technical curiosity about comics for anyone who know the answer.
>In many messages I've read about "coloring" as if it was made by the
>publisher rather than the author of the story.

As far as I know, that is indeed the case. The artist draws the story in
black and white, and the coloring is done by other people, namely
colorists. Gladstone always credits them in their publications, e.g. Susan
Daigle-Leach or Scott Rockwell (and others that I don't remember now as
readily).

>Other messages seem to suggest that every reprint of a story imply that the
>coloring is re-done. I have always thought that the coloring was made only
>once, for the first publication, by the author of the drawings or by
>someone else, and then it did not need to be re-done for the following
>reprints, unless the publisher was for some reason not satisfied by the
>original. Can someone please explain me how this works?

Once a coloring is done, the publisher would indeed want to put it on file
for further uses / reprints. But this doesn't mean any other publisher that
can publish the stories because of Disney's licence clauses can use this
coloring as well, so if e.g. Gladstone wants to use a new European story,
they most likely can't (or don't want to) use the European coloring, but
will do their own. But it's of course not impossible to use another
publisher's coloring, e.g. when cooperating on a specific project.

That's how I understand the process of coloring and the problems involved.
If any of the pros involved in story production on this list can spot any
errors and correct them or elaborate further - please do.

Best regards, Frank
Per-Erik Malmström
KATIE:
> I have recently been busy "translating" Hamlet into "regular" English for
the Shakespare-Impaired. I
> remember the DuckTales episode "Much Ado About Scrooge" was chock full of
Shakespare references. Any
> Hamlet-related duck comics you all can think of?

Sure. One of Van Horn's latest stories is (partly) about Hamlet. The
Swedish title is D97153 "Teater-Tönten" (The Theatre-Geek). This story is
FILLED with great Hamlet scenes that (IMO) would fit a new "translation"
perfectly.
It's a very good story, which I hope will be published in America very
soon.

Best,
Per-Erik
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