Should anybody be interested in the (Italian version of) the Brazilian story
about Donald Duck and Daisy Duck's marriage, then that-a-body should contact
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/Matrimonio/Paperino
but BEWARE that everything (comments, balloons, etc.) is in ITALIAN!!!
Marco
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Topic: 199805
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Marco Barlotti
Donald Duck's marriage
Message 61 -
1998-05-07 at 00:47:51
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Disney comics Digest V98 #117
Message 62 -
1998-05-07 at 01:16:51
Hi, guys.
The following turned up on the Disney comics e-mailing list
today, from a German fellow named Mike Schneiderath:
>While we were already discussing errors in an recent issue of the
>"Previews" magazine.=20
>
>In PREVIEWS May 1998, Page 251, Uncle Scrooge #313 it reads
>"..."Trapped in Castle Rollingstein" from Holland and translated to
english
>by David Gerstein that takes the Ducks into the Carpathian Mountains
for an
>encounter with a vampirelike villan,..."
>
>Well, I don=B4t want to question David Gerstein=B4s knowledge of the
dutch
>language, but as far as I know the major part of the translation was
done
>by Arthur de Wolf. But correct me if I am wrong!
Mike's not wrong, and I hope you can fix the credit when this
thing's published. I of course Americanized the story, but the
translation I worked from, as noted on the finished copy I turned in,
was indeed done by my Dutch friend Arthur De Wolf. I suppose his pay
went through OK? I gave you his address at the time, and my records show
that I was paid only for the Americanization.
Anyway, please credit both of us for the Gladstone version.
Thanks!
Best wishes,
David
The following turned up on the Disney comics e-mailing list
today, from a German fellow named Mike Schneiderath:
>While we were already discussing errors in an recent issue of the
>"Previews" magazine.=20
>
>In PREVIEWS May 1998, Page 251, Uncle Scrooge #313 it reads
>"..."Trapped in Castle Rollingstein" from Holland and translated to
english
>by David Gerstein that takes the Ducks into the Carpathian Mountains
for an
>encounter with a vampirelike villan,..."
>
>Well, I don=B4t want to question David Gerstein=B4s knowledge of the
dutch
>language, but as far as I know the major part of the translation was
done
>by Arthur de Wolf. But correct me if I am wrong!
Mike's not wrong, and I hope you can fix the credit when this
thing's published. I of course Americanized the story, but the
translation I worked from, as noted on the finished copy I turned in,
was indeed done by my Dutch friend Arthur De Wolf. I suppose his pay
went through OK? I gave you his address at the time, and my records show
that I was paid only for the Americanization.
Anyway, please credit both of us for the Gladstone version.
Thanks!
Best wishes,
David
Marquetta Pisarcik
Rosa & European Duck Art
Message 63 -
1998-05-07 at 03:00:16
DeanMary:
I agree with you whole completely---I too hate when Rosa stories are
continued, and continued, and continued...
I, and as others have also voiced, love to see new Rosa story every
month---and I am aware that Rosa's and Van Horn's work takes more time.
It was just a wish list response and something that I, as well as many
others, would like to see if the world was a true paradise.
Mr. Gerstein:
I will try to give European artists another chance---though I'm not sure
I'll change my mind. Sorry---no insult was intended. I was just my
opinion and personal taste being voiced.
Marquetta Pisarcik
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I agree with you whole completely---I too hate when Rosa stories are
continued, and continued, and continued...
I, and as others have also voiced, love to see new Rosa story every
month---and I am aware that Rosa's and Van Horn's work takes more time.
It was just a wish list response and something that I, as well as many
others, would like to see if the world was a true paradise.
Mr. Gerstein:
I will try to give European artists another chance---though I'm not sure
I'll change my mind. Sorry---no insult was intended. I was just my
opinion and personal taste being voiced.
Marquetta Pisarcik
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Katie Sullivan
Donald's Marriage and my own humble art
Message 64 -
1998-05-07 at 04:06:19
Marco,
THANKS THANKS THANKS for putting "Il Matrimonio di Paperone" online for us to see! It was
fascinating! I really enjoyed it!
Not being an Italian speaker, I have a question...
At the end, did the whole story turn out to be a dream? I wasn't completely sure.
SIX DUCKLINGS! YIKES! What a ruckus!
Very, very nice story! Excellent!
************
Also, I completely re-organized my own personal art gallery at
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/quack.htm
It's broken up into several sections, and most are available with both thumbnails and
text-only menus. Thanks in advance for visiting and commenting! :-) There is also at
least one new picture that I can think of there.
Katie Quackfaster
THANKS THANKS THANKS for putting "Il Matrimonio di Paperone" online for us to see! It was
fascinating! I really enjoyed it!
Not being an Italian speaker, I have a question...
At the end, did the whole story turn out to be a dream? I wasn't completely sure.
SIX DUCKLINGS! YIKES! What a ruckus!
Very, very nice story! Excellent!
************
Also, I completely re-organized my own personal art gallery at
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/quack.htm
It's broken up into several sections, and most are available with both thumbnails and
text-only menus. Thanks in advance for visiting and commenting! :-) There is also at
least one new picture that I can think of there.
Katie Quackfaster
Cebarat
Digest V98 #113-116
Message 65 -
1998-05-07 at 05:56:00
(Comments re censorship/banning of stories)
>The Nazi story - heck, *all* the Nazi stories are controversial
>just in that they feature Nazis. That doesn't mean they're necessarily
>banned. I don't think Gladstone could get permission to use them, but
>who knows? Some kind of themed presentation down the line...
(ETA BETA)
What do you mean by "controversial", here ?
*All* the stories featuring Nazis I ever read put them in the worst
possible light, which is, IMO, absolutely correct, "moral" and
educative.
What about "Treasure of Marco Polo," or the stories featuring the Brutopians
(read: Soviets)? For the same reason you don't regard the Nazi stories as
"controversial" because the Nazis are depicted negatively, I don't regard
these "Cold War" era stories as controversial. And yet, the original form
of "Marco Polo" was altered to remove a reference to the "Workers' Paradise".
(DEAN REKICH)
<<I would like for as many people as possible to express on the
list what THEIR preferences are. Is there an audience out there for the
endless reprinting of Barks stories? Or do most of you wish Gladstone
would print more original (at least in the US) stories but just haven't
raised your voice.>>
I have been in favor of overseas stories, as opposed to reprints of
frequently-reprinted Barks stories (AND material that appeared during the
Gladstone I Era, e.g. early stories by Rosa and Van Horn) ever since
Gladstone got the license back! Whether or not Gladstone has the available
resources to handle the chores of translation, redialoguing, etc. is
the main question, one that I hope Gary will address.
(DANNY)
> Remember the Lo$, I believe part 3 (where he is talking to
> the Square Egg Professor). While the European versions (at least the
> German one did) had the villains pointing guns at Scrooge, that were
> replaced by their INDEX FINGERS in the American prints. How believable
> is that? Not very...
They really did this? EEK! Shades of that late-Whitman story "The
Jack in the Box Plots" by Lockman and Alvarado, in which the Beagle
Boys hold up Scrooge by pointing fingers at him!
Now I am more glad than ever that I didn't buy the pricey LO$ hardcover...
Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
>The Nazi story - heck, *all* the Nazi stories are controversial
>just in that they feature Nazis. That doesn't mean they're necessarily
>banned. I don't think Gladstone could get permission to use them, but
>who knows? Some kind of themed presentation down the line...
(ETA BETA)
What do you mean by "controversial", here ?
*All* the stories featuring Nazis I ever read put them in the worst
possible light, which is, IMO, absolutely correct, "moral" and
educative.
What about "Treasure of Marco Polo," or the stories featuring the Brutopians
(read: Soviets)? For the same reason you don't regard the Nazi stories as
"controversial" because the Nazis are depicted negatively, I don't regard
these "Cold War" era stories as controversial. And yet, the original form
of "Marco Polo" was altered to remove a reference to the "Workers' Paradise".
(DEAN REKICH)
<<I would like for as many people as possible to express on the
list what THEIR preferences are. Is there an audience out there for the
endless reprinting of Barks stories? Or do most of you wish Gladstone
would print more original (at least in the US) stories but just haven't
raised your voice.>>
I have been in favor of overseas stories, as opposed to reprints of
frequently-reprinted Barks stories (AND material that appeared during the
Gladstone I Era, e.g. early stories by Rosa and Van Horn) ever since
Gladstone got the license back! Whether or not Gladstone has the available
resources to handle the chores of translation, redialoguing, etc. is
the main question, one that I hope Gary will address.
(DANNY)
> Remember the Lo$, I believe part 3 (where he is talking to
> the Square Egg Professor). While the European versions (at least the
> German one did) had the villains pointing guns at Scrooge, that were
> replaced by their INDEX FINGERS in the American prints. How believable
> is that? Not very...
They really did this? EEK! Shades of that late-Whitman story "The
Jack in the Box Plots" by Lockman and Alvarado, in which the Beagle
Boys hold up Scrooge by pointing fingers at him!
Now I am more glad than ever that I didn't buy the pricey LO$ hardcover...
Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
DeanMary
Gladstone's future and other thoughts
Message 66 -
1998-05-07 at 06:58:13
Whew! I must admit that I am part confused and part saddened at
Gary's latest posting. I am confused in that I don't understand how he
feels he is unable to explain what is going on at Gladstone now. To my
way of thinking, answering the question of why so many re-re-reprints
should be fairly easy to answer. However, I appreciate Gary being a
part of this mailing list at all and will take him at his word that
things are too difficult to explain at the present time.
I am saddened by the tone and spirit of the posting. I'm not exactly
good at reading tea leaves but when Gary refers to Gladstone as having a
"tricky future" and that "good news isn't plentiful as I'd like" things
don't sound great for the future of Gladstone to say the least! At
least in past postings Gary seemed to be somewhat optimistic regarding
Gladstone's future. Now I get the feeling of having to have our fingers
crossed that Gladstone stays in the Disney comics business at all! If I
am too pessimistic in regards to Gladstone's future PLEASE correct me
Gary. I would like nothing more than to be totally wrong about how
Gladstone is doing!
Onto a few questions and comments. One, could someone tell me when
Gladstone's option to renew its license to publish Disney comics comes
up for renewel? Many months ago I believe someone said it was sometime
in 1999 but I wonder if anyone could be more specific than that.
The second question is for Don Rosa. How would you feel if Gladstone
gets out of the Disney comics industry? I assume obviously that you
would be upset like all of us. However most of us are not actual
creators of Disney stories. I would think it would be hard to produce
such wonderful work and to never be able to read it in your own
language. I apologize in advance if this is an awkward subject for
you. Hey, at least it is not about lettering! ;)
To end on a brighter note, Rich Pegasus wrote:
Also, it seems that it might be easy enough for Gladstone to simply
reprint their "Library" collections should the demand become great for
vast quantities of re-re-re-reprints, but to please keep new and fresh
material the norm for the two remaining monthly titles.
If Gladstone is able to survive, I think this is an excellent idea.
The people that want the Barks reprints can easily get them. At the
same time, those of us who already have Barks' stories could look
forward to all new stories in Gladstone's remaining two comics. Anybody
else think that this would be a good idea?
Sorry for so much doom and gloom. Hopefully it will blow away and
Gladstone will have many bright years ahead.
Dean Rekich
Gary's latest posting. I am confused in that I don't understand how he
feels he is unable to explain what is going on at Gladstone now. To my
way of thinking, answering the question of why so many re-re-reprints
should be fairly easy to answer. However, I appreciate Gary being a
part of this mailing list at all and will take him at his word that
things are too difficult to explain at the present time.
I am saddened by the tone and spirit of the posting. I'm not exactly
good at reading tea leaves but when Gary refers to Gladstone as having a
"tricky future" and that "good news isn't plentiful as I'd like" things
don't sound great for the future of Gladstone to say the least! At
least in past postings Gary seemed to be somewhat optimistic regarding
Gladstone's future. Now I get the feeling of having to have our fingers
crossed that Gladstone stays in the Disney comics business at all! If I
am too pessimistic in regards to Gladstone's future PLEASE correct me
Gary. I would like nothing more than to be totally wrong about how
Gladstone is doing!
Onto a few questions and comments. One, could someone tell me when
Gladstone's option to renew its license to publish Disney comics comes
up for renewel? Many months ago I believe someone said it was sometime
in 1999 but I wonder if anyone could be more specific than that.
The second question is for Don Rosa. How would you feel if Gladstone
gets out of the Disney comics industry? I assume obviously that you
would be upset like all of us. However most of us are not actual
creators of Disney stories. I would think it would be hard to produce
such wonderful work and to never be able to read it in your own
language. I apologize in advance if this is an awkward subject for
you. Hey, at least it is not about lettering! ;)
To end on a brighter note, Rich Pegasus wrote:
Also, it seems that it might be easy enough for Gladstone to simply
reprint their "Library" collections should the demand become great for
vast quantities of re-re-re-reprints, but to please keep new and fresh
material the norm for the two remaining monthly titles.
If Gladstone is able to survive, I think this is an excellent idea.
The people that want the Barks reprints can easily get them. At the
same time, those of us who already have Barks' stories could look
forward to all new stories in Gladstone's remaining two comics. Anybody
else think that this would be a good idea?
Sorry for so much doom and gloom. Hopefully it will blow away and
Gladstone will have many bright years ahead.
Dean Rekich
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V98 #117
Message 67 -
1998-05-07 at 08:13:55
>From: Mike Schneiderath:
>Looking at the recent Picsou drawing that shows three scenes with Donald
>and the nephews there is a big flag in the upper scene. As this flag is
>shown empty in the magazine, I would like to know what you intended to be
>written on it.
>(I believe it has something to do with the nephews 60th birthday.??)
How does everyone get all comics with my work before *me*?!
Well... so, they deleted the text from that flag? And in such a way that
it's painfully obvious that something is missing?
No, that was not to accompany a HDL 60th... why do you think that? PICSOU
used that story over 6 months ago, didn't they? I *think* the flag said
something like "3 X 3" that I figured would be insipid but would be
the
"universal language of mathematics". It was three scenes of the 3 nephews,
so it was "3 X 3". Ingenious, wot?
The story which I was told would be in that issue was "Metaphorically
Spanking", and I couldn't think of a scene to depict from it which would
make any sense to anyone having yet to read the story. So... since the main
idea of my page in PICSOU is as a sorta "pin-up" page, sometimes I do a
scene based on a "theme" rather than an actual story.
>From: "Gerstein, David
> But... but... while you DID intend the cover that's just been
>printed for the WDCiC series, it's one that hasn't been published =
>before
>now -=A0the version of the WDC&S sailboat cover that has Scrooge and
>Mickey rather than the nephews. That was in the Italian book about you,
>Don, but it's never been published on an actual comic book before.
>(Ironically, where should it appear now but the *new* series of those
>same comic albums, WALT DISNEY'S COMICS IN COLOR!)
Again, I have yet to see that issue. I still haven't seen the new-size UNCLE
$CROOGE with my HDL 60th story that's been out for about 2 months! Sorry
that I'm so far behind everyone!
So... they've used another of those covers I did that was rejected in 1989?
Sorry, I didn't realize that.
Apparently they still made copies of the art before they returned it...
that's about the 3rd of
those rejected covers they've used recently. Well... that was nearly a
decade ago,
and I sold the originals at the time to make up for the lost wages...
Actually, there's a hidden trick here. I often voluntarilly do free jobs for
Gladstone, sometimes to help them out, or to make my own work look/read
better. This would include such things as the texts for the "Lo$", that
centerfold in U$ #300, extra panels to some stories, etc. The problem is
that it's not possible to be generous to a Disney licensee without
unavoidably being exploited by Disney... anything that appears in a Disney
comic, paid for or not, becomes Disney property, and can be sold to other
publishers around the world. I've later seen those "rejected" covers and
"Lo$" texts and that centerfold and those extra pages to stories used around
the world in foreign Disney comics, albums and hardback collections, all
unbeknownst to me. But, ah, well... okay... I still like to do favors for
Gladstone. I can't help how Disney works.
>Looking at the recent Picsou drawing that shows three scenes with Donald
>and the nephews there is a big flag in the upper scene. As this flag is
>shown empty in the magazine, I would like to know what you intended to be
>written on it.
>(I believe it has something to do with the nephews 60th birthday.??)
How does everyone get all comics with my work before *me*?!
Well... so, they deleted the text from that flag? And in such a way that
it's painfully obvious that something is missing?
No, that was not to accompany a HDL 60th... why do you think that? PICSOU
used that story over 6 months ago, didn't they? I *think* the flag said
something like "3 X 3" that I figured would be insipid but would be
the
"universal language of mathematics". It was three scenes of the 3 nephews,
so it was "3 X 3". Ingenious, wot?
The story which I was told would be in that issue was "Metaphorically
Spanking", and I couldn't think of a scene to depict from it which would
make any sense to anyone having yet to read the story. So... since the main
idea of my page in PICSOU is as a sorta "pin-up" page, sometimes I do a
scene based on a "theme" rather than an actual story.
>From: "Gerstein, David
> But... but... while you DID intend the cover that's just been
>printed for the WDCiC series, it's one that hasn't been published =
>before
>now -=A0the version of the WDC&S sailboat cover that has Scrooge and
>Mickey rather than the nephews. That was in the Italian book about you,
>Don, but it's never been published on an actual comic book before.
>(Ironically, where should it appear now but the *new* series of those
>same comic albums, WALT DISNEY'S COMICS IN COLOR!)
Again, I have yet to see that issue. I still haven't seen the new-size UNCLE
$CROOGE with my HDL 60th story that's been out for about 2 months! Sorry
that I'm so far behind everyone!
So... they've used another of those covers I did that was rejected in 1989?
Sorry, I didn't realize that.
Apparently they still made copies of the art before they returned it...
that's about the 3rd of
those rejected covers they've used recently. Well... that was nearly a
decade ago,
and I sold the originals at the time to make up for the lost wages...
Actually, there's a hidden trick here. I often voluntarilly do free jobs for
Gladstone, sometimes to help them out, or to make my own work look/read
better. This would include such things as the texts for the "Lo$", that
centerfold in U$ #300, extra panels to some stories, etc. The problem is
that it's not possible to be generous to a Disney licensee without
unavoidably being exploited by Disney... anything that appears in a Disney
comic, paid for or not, becomes Disney property, and can be sold to other
publishers around the world. I've later seen those "rejected" covers and
"Lo$" texts and that centerfold and those extra pages to stories used around
the world in foreign Disney comics, albums and hardback collections, all
unbeknownst to me. But, ah, well... okay... I still like to do favors for
Gladstone. I can't help how Disney works.
Francois Willot
Disney comics Digest V98 #116
Message 68 -
1998-05-07 at 13:45:45
DAVID:
Thanks for your message about Eli Squinch. I checked a few French
reprints of "Bob the Elephant", "In Search of Jungle Treasure" and "Race
for Riches". Hachette consistently calls Squinch "Latrique", while
Sylvester Shyster is "Chicaneau".
But I can't think of any Italian story with Squinch (or Shyster).
But I've seen e.g. Joe Piper (Giuseppe Tubi in Italian) two times, in I
TL 780-B and I TL 502-A by Gatto and Asteriti.
DON:
The editor said your "3 X 3" drawing is an illustration of the
nephews in the 40s (playing pirates), the 50s (playing base-ball) and
the 60s (when they're shown as JW-adults).
The problem with the last Picsou issue is that it stinks (the ink
used for the printing smells of garlic and other things). And even after
one week, it *still* stinks.
Francois
Thanks for your message about Eli Squinch. I checked a few French
reprints of "Bob the Elephant", "In Search of Jungle Treasure" and "Race
for Riches". Hachette consistently calls Squinch "Latrique", while
Sylvester Shyster is "Chicaneau".
But I can't think of any Italian story with Squinch (or Shyster).
But I've seen e.g. Joe Piper (Giuseppe Tubi in Italian) two times, in I
TL 780-B and I TL 502-A by Gatto and Asteriti.
DON:
The editor said your "3 X 3" drawing is an illustration of the
nephews in the 40s (playing pirates), the 50s (playing base-ball) and
the 60s (when they're shown as JW-adults).
The problem with the last Picsou issue is that it stinks (the ink
used for the printing smells of garlic and other things). And even after
one week, it *still* stinks.
Francois
Bjoern Staerk
Great and Good duck artists
Message 69 -
1998-05-07 at 13:57:09
In my opinion, the greatness of Barks lies not primarily in his stories,
but in the universe he created with them. A universe in which those who
followed him could create an almost infinite number of good and enjoyable
stories, even if they added nothing new and original.
For instance, compare Disney comics to the standard superhero-comics,
where there are often only variations over one theme: 'bad guy does
something evil to good people, and superhero stops him'. There is a
limited number of interesting stories you can create with this. Then
consider the themes of Barks' universe. There is the 'Scrooge goes
treasure-hunting'- theme, 'Angry Donald vs the nephews', 'Angry Scrooge
vs Donald', 'Scrooge competes with other rich guy', 'Donald vs
neighbour', and so on.
The flexibility, size and predefined themes of this universe is what I
feel makes Disney comics still readable, long after Barks stopped
drawing. It's a universe that can be used by the numerous good (and even
mediocre) duck artists to create enjoyable comics, - not only the two or
three great ones. That is what's so great about Disney comics, not only
the work of Barks on its own.
- Bjoern Staerk, (Email removed)
but in the universe he created with them. A universe in which those who
followed him could create an almost infinite number of good and enjoyable
stories, even if they added nothing new and original.
For instance, compare Disney comics to the standard superhero-comics,
where there are often only variations over one theme: 'bad guy does
something evil to good people, and superhero stops him'. There is a
limited number of interesting stories you can create with this. Then
consider the themes of Barks' universe. There is the 'Scrooge goes
treasure-hunting'- theme, 'Angry Donald vs the nephews', 'Angry Scrooge
vs Donald', 'Scrooge competes with other rich guy', 'Donald vs
neighbour', and so on.
The flexibility, size and predefined themes of this universe is what I
feel makes Disney comics still readable, long after Barks stopped
drawing. It's a universe that can be used by the numerous good (and even
mediocre) duck artists to create enjoyable comics, - not only the two or
three great ones. That is what's so great about Disney comics, not only
the work of Barks on its own.
- Bjoern Staerk, (Email removed)
Marco Barlotti
On-line again (hopefully)
Message 70 -
1998-05-07 at 14:29:12
Please excuse this message, but it's the only way to reach most of my
e-mail-pals (?!?).
My old e-mail address does not work any more, so I managed to get a new
one. Please UPDATE YOUR NICKNAMES. My new address is:
(Email removed)
Thanks,
Marco
e-mail-pals (?!?).
My old e-mail address does not work any more, so I managed to get a new
one. Please UPDATE YOUR NICKNAMES. My new address is:
(Email removed)
Thanks,
Marco
Marco Barlotti
Greek Disney comics ?
Message 71 -
1998-05-07 at 17:20:40
KRITON:
>but the Greek "Mickey Mouse" magazine did publish a lot of classic stuff
>from both Greece and Italy back in the 60s.
>
Is this a typo? Or do you really mean there were GREEK Disney Comics back
in the 60s ?
(I have lost several digests, so please excuse me if this has been asked
already- your quote is from Digest #111)
Marco
>but the Greek "Mickey Mouse" magazine did publish a lot of classic stuff
>from both Greece and Italy back in the 60s.
>
Is this a typo? Or do you really mean there were GREEK Disney Comics back
in the 60s ?
(I have lost several digests, so please excuse me if this has been asked
already- your quote is from Digest #111)
Marco
Francois Willot
Greek Disney comics ?
Message 72 -
1998-05-07 at 18:53:19
> (I have lost several digests, so please excuse me if this has been
> asked already- your quote is from Digest #111)
Yes, this has already been asked. Kriton said he didn't want to say that
and that there's no Greek Disney comics. --Francois.
> asked already- your quote is from Digest #111)
Yes, this has already been asked. Kriton said he didn't want to say that
and that there's no Greek Disney comics. --Francois.
Shaun Knowler
Disney comics Digest V98 #117
Message 73 -
1998-05-07 at 20:18:35
DAVID:
> You may want some upcoming WDC&S more than you think when you
> see what's in them. Remember that in the case of WDC&S, the =
> solicitation
> only mentions a couple of the stories included, and more is always
> added.
Well, I'm just not committed to buy each issue by having the store put one
in my file, but I do go through each issue when they arrive and see what's
inside so I make sure I don't miss anything.
DEAN:
> In some ways I agree Shaun. I too don't want to think about there
> being NO new Disney comics in North America. Also, part of me does feel
> bad for criticizing Gladstone since they have in the past (and still do
> but to a much smaller extent) brought me such great joy.
Indeed, but the criticism here is warranted. We are the people who are
buying the books. We are the true fans, and it is the true fans who always
seem to suffer most from all the circumstances and rules that Gladstone
must operate under, so that will likely leave us something to complain
about. In publishing, as Gary has said a good deal of times, you just
can't please everyone... And apperently there's got to be SOME sort of
demand for Barks reprints that we're not aware of.
-Shaun
> You may want some upcoming WDC&S more than you think when you
> see what's in them. Remember that in the case of WDC&S, the =
> solicitation
> only mentions a couple of the stories included, and more is always
> added.
Well, I'm just not committed to buy each issue by having the store put one
in my file, but I do go through each issue when they arrive and see what's
inside so I make sure I don't miss anything.
DEAN:
> In some ways I agree Shaun. I too don't want to think about there
> being NO new Disney comics in North America. Also, part of me does feel
> bad for criticizing Gladstone since they have in the past (and still do
> but to a much smaller extent) brought me such great joy.
Indeed, but the criticism here is warranted. We are the people who are
buying the books. We are the true fans, and it is the true fans who always
seem to suffer most from all the circumstances and rules that Gladstone
must operate under, so that will likely leave us something to complain
about. In publishing, as Gary has said a good deal of times, you just
can't please everyone... And apperently there's got to be SOME sort of
demand for Barks reprints that we're not aware of.
-Shaun
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Disney comics Digest V98 #117
Message 74 -
1998-05-07 at 20:22:28
Hi,
there's been some complaints about the way Gladstone splits some lo=
nger
stories into 2 or 3 parts. At the same time, these people obviously are
very much into these comics, and wouldn't want them to go away. Now, th=
e
way I've understood it, the point of splitting up stories like this is =
to
make people come back for more. They want to see what happens, and so t=
hey
buy the next issue, and the next, and the next.....I don't know HOW
effective this tecnique is, but if it works, then surely it's worth it =
if
it means we at least have SOME access to Gladstone publications?=20
Maybe I just don't see how bad it is because I'm used to sto=
ries
being serialized form the Scandinavian and English publications I buy, =
but
the fact is that I really don't mind it so much that I'm willing to do
anything but try to support the market even MORE. If Gladstone starts
earning lots of money, then they will be able to quit serializing stori=
es
(if they want; after all, the Norwegian Donald Duck & Co. isn't doing t=
oo
badly, and they STILL serialize. And the English publication 2000AD is
among the few that survive there, and they serialize EVERY story (unles=
s
it's really short).
-- |Tarjei - Kidd - Olsen|=20
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a.norgesnett.no
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-- Panacea:=A0 http://panacea.norgesnett.no/
there's been some complaints about the way Gladstone splits some lo=
nger
stories into 2 or 3 parts. At the same time, these people obviously are
very much into these comics, and wouldn't want them to go away. Now, th=
e
way I've understood it, the point of splitting up stories like this is =
to
make people come back for more. They want to see what happens, and so t=
hey
buy the next issue, and the next, and the next.....I don't know HOW
effective this tecnique is, but if it works, then surely it's worth it =
if
it means we at least have SOME access to Gladstone publications?=20
Maybe I just don't see how bad it is because I'm used to sto=
ries
being serialized form the Scandinavian and English publications I buy, =
but
the fact is that I really don't mind it so much that I'm willing to do
anything but try to support the market even MORE. If Gladstone starts
earning lots of money, then they will be able to quit serializing stori=
es
(if they want; after all, the Norwegian Donald Duck & Co. isn't doing t=
oo
badly, and they STILL serialize. And the English publication 2000AD is
among the few that survive there, and they serialize EVERY story (unles=
s
it's really short).
-- |Tarjei - Kidd - Olsen|=20
-- Home:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (Email removed)=20
-- Work:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (Email removed)=
a.norgesnett.no
-- Website:=A0=A0 http://home.sol.no/~kidd/index.html=20
-- Panacea:=A0 http://panacea.norgesnett.no/
Vidar Svendsen
Disney comics Digest V98 #117
Message 75 -
1998-05-07 at 20:57:45
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
> Maybe I just don't see how bad it is because I'm used to stories
>being serialized form the Scandinavian and English publications I buy, but
<snip>
What you forget is that in Norway there are four issues a month, while
there's just
*one* issue a month in the USA. That means waiting two months for a three-parter
in the USA compared to two weeks in Norway.
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
> Maybe I just don't see how bad it is because I'm used to stories
>being serialized form the Scandinavian and English publications I buy, but
<snip>
What you forget is that in Norway there are four issues a month, while
there's just
*one* issue a month in the USA. That means waiting two months for a three-parter
in the USA compared to two weeks in Norway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers