Anybody notice in Don Rosa's new story, "The Sign of the Triple
Distelfink" in Uncle Scrooge 310, the airliner on page 9, panel 2?
Don has drawn a nice representation of a Boeing 377 Stratocruiser
(also known as a Stratoliner). I thought this was very good attention
to detail, as this airliner was in its heyday in the early 50's. I
liked the fact that Don drew an actual classic airliner for this
story, and not some bogus facsimile.
BTW, the Minicraft scale model company is coming out with several 1/144
scale versions of this aircraft this year, something I've personally
been waiting years for.
Carey
--
"Blasted kids must think I'm a whelcher!"
S. McDuck (US3 - OS 495)
Carey Furlong; Huntington Beach, California, USA;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
Author
Topic: 199805
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Carey M. Furlong
Boeing Stratocruiser in Sign of the Triple Distelfink
Message 91 -
1998-05-09 at 20:11:02
Shaun Knowler
One more script alteration.
Message 92 -
1998-05-09 at 20:24:04
DON:
When you said you were looking forward to seeing if the dialouge on the
loungecar was still intact, I took a closer look...
It's not.
*SPOILERS* (I don't think so, but I dunno how picky some of you get over
these things)
Original script:
Pg. 7 panel 8: ".... I move we adjourn to the dining car for FREE FOOD!"
panel 9: "All in favor say `aye'!"
"hic!"
"Motion carried!"
New Gladstone Script:
Pg. 7 panel 8: "....[everthing the man says before this point is intact]
lets adjourn to the dining car for FREE FOOD!"
panel 9: "hoo-hah! I'm gonna eat a TON!"
"yay"
"FREE! YIPPEE!"
Well, that's enough of being the bringer of bad news for me for one week.
-Shaun Fortuna Favet Fortibus
"The greatest thing about success
is that it's the ultimate tool of
revenge." -- Shirley Manson
When you said you were looking forward to seeing if the dialouge on the
loungecar was still intact, I took a closer look...
It's not.
*SPOILERS* (I don't think so, but I dunno how picky some of you get over
these things)
Original script:
Pg. 7 panel 8: ".... I move we adjourn to the dining car for FREE FOOD!"
panel 9: "All in favor say `aye'!"
"hic!"
"Motion carried!"
New Gladstone Script:
Pg. 7 panel 8: "....[everthing the man says before this point is intact]
lets adjourn to the dining car for FREE FOOD!"
panel 9: "hoo-hah! I'm gonna eat a TON!"
"yay"
"FREE! YIPPEE!"
Well, that's enough of being the bringer of bad news for me for one week.
-Shaun Fortuna Favet Fortibus
"The greatest thing about success
is that it's the ultimate tool of
revenge." -- Shirley Manson
Shaun Craill
Stinky comics
Message 93 -
1998-05-09 at 20:27:50
Francois:
>The problem with the last Picsou issue is that it stinks (the ink
>used for the printing smells of garlic and other things). And even after
>one week, it *still* stinks.
Oh joy! This means my U$ story idea involving a garbage dump will have an
extra level of meaning in France! Francois, does your comic attract flies?
Wouldn't that be great!
regards
Shaun (in a slightly silly mood today)
>The problem with the last Picsou issue is that it stinks (the ink
>used for the printing smells of garlic and other things). And even after
>one week, it *still* stinks.
Oh joy! This means my U$ story idea involving a garbage dump will have an
extra level of meaning in France! Francois, does your comic attract flies?
Wouldn't that be great!
regards
Shaun (in a slightly silly mood today)
Bjørn RJ
Disney comics Digest V98 #119
Message 94 -
1998-05-09 at 20:58:43
Don Rosa wrote:
> ????!!!!
> The printing problem I notice in PICSOU is that they take my art (wit=
h
> the
> linework that I work so hard to make ultrasmooooooth), computer-scan
> it, and
> it gets printed in pixelated form... the linework comes out all
> jaggedy. But
> they usually do an excellent job of coloring it.
Here in Norway it also gets pixelated, I think this is a really bad
thing. It's not the same to read a story that looks like it's been
created on a home computer, as one that's smooth and fine.
Why does this happen?
It is just for the last 5 months or so it has been pixelated like that
(at least here in Norway).
Bj=F8rn RJ
> ????!!!!
> The printing problem I notice in PICSOU is that they take my art (wit=
h
> the
> linework that I work so hard to make ultrasmooooooth), computer-scan
> it, and
> it gets printed in pixelated form... the linework comes out all
> jaggedy. But
> they usually do an excellent job of coloring it.
Here in Norway it also gets pixelated, I think this is a really bad
thing. It's not the same to read a story that looks like it's been
created on a home computer, as one that's smooth and fine.
Why does this happen?
It is just for the last 5 months or so it has been pixelated like that
(at least here in Norway).
Bj=F8rn RJ
Katie Sullivan
Disney comics Digest V98 #119
Message 95 -
1998-05-09 at 21:23:48
> Mike...
You touch on some rather controversial and off-topic things. Perhaps it would be best if we stay
away from those issues, since they aren't *exactly* related to Disney comics. (In the interest of
preventing a flame war.)
> >THANKS THANKS THANKS for putting "Il Matrimonio di Paperone"
> >online for us to see!
> ...er... not yet that one! "Il Matrimonio di Paperone" is not yet
> on-line.... (Paperone=$crooge).
EEP! Sorry! This just proves the weakness of my Italian. Give me Spanish any day. Ay de mi!
Lo siento! (5+ years of Spanish study can do strange things to your brain!)
:-)(Paperone/Paperino...Wishful thinking, perhaps?)
> Well, what will you say then of
> http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/Matrimonio/Topolino
Well, I'm not a huge Mickey fan, you know, but do love romantic themes, so...thumbs up!
:-)
> Don Rosa wrote...
> When these are not simply the best-selling comics in most of Europe, but the best selling
> ANYTHING there... when Barks' characters are literally national heroes
> there...
*sigh* I WISH they were that popular here. I went to the local branch of the Disney Store last
weekend to ask (fruitlessly, of course) if they had any new Scrooge merchandise. The employee
paused for a moment as if to say "Scrooge who?" and then said..."No, but they're always coming out
with new things." Poor, poor neglected ducks! SOB! WAH! BOO HOO!
> Rosa also wrote: I also just received a stack of the French edition of my "Lo$"-PLUS. It
> contains all 12 chapters, PLUS "Hearts of the Yukon", "Vigilante of Pizen
> Bluff", and "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... 300 pages of story under
> one cover (no text features)... for 29 francs... that's about $4.60 !
Yipes! That's a price even $crooge would agree with ! Anyone know how I can get a copy? (I
can't read French any better than Italian, but...)
Regarding the censorship in the Gladstone "Triple Distelfinsk"... (SPOILER WARNING)
Don, I loved your commentary on the individual edits. *grin* It does seem odd that a
massively-promoted movie like The Lion King can get away with running jokes about flatuelence, but
comics which few people in this country even know exist can't show people saying "shut up!" It's
downright @$#*%#!!
That drunk guy on the train saying "yay" made no sense, especially the 3rd time.
I, too, was surprised they let Daphne's birth stay in when they cut so much else.
And the airplane scene's "new" joke makes no sense. :-P Darn over-sensitive censors...
I also liked the color in the "Anders And & Co." version better.
On a more positive note, I really liked the story, especially after hearing how it *should* have
been! I know Della's absense was mentioned when the story appeared in Europe, and I agree that
perhaps she should have showed up if only in the background, as Hortense and Quackmore did. The
"what are the odds of THAT" running joke was great, and the idea of Gladstone sans luck was fun.
I giggled out loud at his beak squished in the that window frame! As usual, the various
background jokes were fantastic. Many in here included birds, and my favorite was the
er...prolific chicken following Pa Duck in the flashback. Careful where you step! :0) And the
views of Donald all puffed-up after getting hit by lightning (both times) were...well, adorable!
Not to mention funny! Very nice, overall.
I'd respond to the rest of U$ 310 and also WDC&S 625, which I also got yesterday, but I have to go
shopping for Mother's Day. So that will have to wait until later.
Quackcerely,
Katie
You touch on some rather controversial and off-topic things. Perhaps it would be best if we stay
away from those issues, since they aren't *exactly* related to Disney comics. (In the interest of
preventing a flame war.)
> >THANKS THANKS THANKS for putting "Il Matrimonio di Paperone"
> >online for us to see!
> ...er... not yet that one! "Il Matrimonio di Paperone" is not yet
> on-line.... (Paperone=$crooge).
EEP! Sorry! This just proves the weakness of my Italian. Give me Spanish any day. Ay de mi!
Lo siento! (5+ years of Spanish study can do strange things to your brain!)
:-)(Paperone/Paperino...Wishful thinking, perhaps?)
> Well, what will you say then of
> http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/Matrimonio/Topolino
Well, I'm not a huge Mickey fan, you know, but do love romantic themes, so...thumbs up!
:-)
> Don Rosa wrote...
> When these are not simply the best-selling comics in most of Europe, but the best selling
> ANYTHING there... when Barks' characters are literally national heroes
> there...
*sigh* I WISH they were that popular here. I went to the local branch of the Disney Store last
weekend to ask (fruitlessly, of course) if they had any new Scrooge merchandise. The employee
paused for a moment as if to say "Scrooge who?" and then said..."No, but they're always coming out
with new things." Poor, poor neglected ducks! SOB! WAH! BOO HOO!
> Rosa also wrote: I also just received a stack of the French edition of my "Lo$"-PLUS. It
> contains all 12 chapters, PLUS "Hearts of the Yukon", "Vigilante of Pizen
> Bluff", and "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... 300 pages of story under
> one cover (no text features)... for 29 francs... that's about $4.60 !
Yipes! That's a price even $crooge would agree with ! Anyone know how I can get a copy? (I
can't read French any better than Italian, but...)
Regarding the censorship in the Gladstone "Triple Distelfinsk"... (SPOILER WARNING)
Don, I loved your commentary on the individual edits. *grin* It does seem odd that a
massively-promoted movie like The Lion King can get away with running jokes about flatuelence, but
comics which few people in this country even know exist can't show people saying "shut up!" It's
downright @$#*%#!!
That drunk guy on the train saying "yay" made no sense, especially the 3rd time.
I, too, was surprised they let Daphne's birth stay in when they cut so much else.
And the airplane scene's "new" joke makes no sense. :-P Darn over-sensitive censors...
I also liked the color in the "Anders And & Co." version better.
On a more positive note, I really liked the story, especially after hearing how it *should* have
been! I know Della's absense was mentioned when the story appeared in Europe, and I agree that
perhaps she should have showed up if only in the background, as Hortense and Quackmore did. The
"what are the odds of THAT" running joke was great, and the idea of Gladstone sans luck was fun.
I giggled out loud at his beak squished in the that window frame! As usual, the various
background jokes were fantastic. Many in here included birds, and my favorite was the
er...prolific chicken following Pa Duck in the flashback. Careful where you step! :0) And the
views of Donald all puffed-up after getting hit by lightning (both times) were...well, adorable!
Not to mention funny! Very nice, overall.
I'd respond to the rest of U$ 310 and also WDC&S 625, which I also got yesterday, but I have to go
shopping for Mother's Day. So that will have to wait until later.
Quackcerely,
Katie
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Commerciality script
Message 96 -
1998-05-09 at 22:23:57
Hi.
Off topic, but interesting, I think:
A few days ago I got one of those free webplaces,
in this case at ProHosting. They offer 11 MB of
free disk space + (AND HERE IT IS) a POP3
e-mail + (AND HERE IT REALLY IS) a
cgi-bin directory, where you can put any server
side cgi-script you like!!!!!!!! I've just tried it
and....it simply works!!! :-)
You will get nice URL's too (Darn! This is beginning
to look like a commecial, but then again, if
Plenitude L'Oreal 2000++ Extra Vitamine Q really
worked, I would be telling you as well), like
http://thor.prohosting.com/~epikur and equivalently
nice looking e-mail addresses.
I expect many of you folks to be creating lots of
personal duck-counters, duck-guestbooks and
duck-searchers, webrings etc...
S=F8ren
Off topic, but interesting, I think:
A few days ago I got one of those free webplaces,
in this case at ProHosting. They offer 11 MB of
free disk space + (AND HERE IT IS) a POP3
e-mail + (AND HERE IT REALLY IS) a
cgi-bin directory, where you can put any server
side cgi-script you like!!!!!!!! I've just tried it
and....it simply works!!! :-)
You will get nice URL's too (Darn! This is beginning
to look like a commecial, but then again, if
Plenitude L'Oreal 2000++ Extra Vitamine Q really
worked, I would be telling you as well), like
http://thor.prohosting.com/~epikur and equivalently
nice looking e-mail addresses.
I expect many of you folks to be creating lots of
personal duck-counters, duck-guestbooks and
duck-searchers, webrings etc...
S=F8ren
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Contra-America rant.
Message 97 -
1998-05-09 at 23:17:45
Mikko Pohjola - The Finnish Trekkie wrote:
> God bless America!
Yeah, Mike, and God bless Europe and their (our)
Eurovision Song Contest. ;-)
S=F8ren
> God bless America!
Yeah, Mike, and God bless Europe and their (our)
Eurovision Song Contest. ;-)
S=F8ren
Danny Coenen
Disney comics Digest V98 #119
Message 98 -
1998-05-09 at 23:20:37
Please let's not get into politics. I think every intelligent being
knows how ridiculous America's attitude towards Cuba is, especially
nowadays!
GARY:
I mind sound naive here, but if Gladstone's situation is really as bad
as it sounds, maybe a survey would help to find out what the readers
REALLY want. I, for example, stopped subscribing just because I think
that the new prestige comics were too expensive, and because most
stories got chopped into three parts.
Also, a couple of years ago it was no problem to find Gladstone comics
in stores like Venture and Wal- Mart around here, but now--- NOTHING.
I really don't know how exactly the market works, and if that's
possible, but wouldn't printing a selection of material that has
proven to be very popular in Europe would improve the quality of the
products.
And, if nothing else helps, maybe something like a joint-venture with
a European publisher would keep Disney comics in America alive???
It'd be horrible to see this and any other country without Disney
comics.
DON:
Aren't your stories published in other English speaking countries? I'd
think that at least in England they'd do so.
==
Danny Coenen
Visit me on the World Wide Web!
The Foreign Exchange Student Homepage at
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/5042 or
http://surf.to/saturnpage
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
knows how ridiculous America's attitude towards Cuba is, especially
nowadays!
GARY:
I mind sound naive here, but if Gladstone's situation is really as bad
as it sounds, maybe a survey would help to find out what the readers
REALLY want. I, for example, stopped subscribing just because I think
that the new prestige comics were too expensive, and because most
stories got chopped into three parts.
Also, a couple of years ago it was no problem to find Gladstone comics
in stores like Venture and Wal- Mart around here, but now--- NOTHING.
I really don't know how exactly the market works, and if that's
possible, but wouldn't printing a selection of material that has
proven to be very popular in Europe would improve the quality of the
products.
And, if nothing else helps, maybe something like a joint-venture with
a European publisher would keep Disney comics in America alive???
It'd be horrible to see this and any other country without Disney
comics.
DON:
Aren't your stories published in other English speaking countries? I'd
think that at least in England they'd do so.
==
Danny Coenen
Visit me on the World Wide Web!
The Foreign Exchange Student Homepage at
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/5042 or
http://surf.to/saturnpage
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Matthew R. Sommer
Contra-America rant.
Message 99 -
1998-05-10 at 03:05:56
TO: Mike, the Finnish Trekkie
RE: Your political opinions
I don't know you, but i'm sure you're a decent enough guy. But I don't
think we need this kind of venom being spewed here. Not only is it off
topic (SEVERELY off topic), But is also offensive to pretty much
everyone on this Mailing List who mail hail from the US of A. You're
entitled to your opinions, of course, and as much as I agree or disagree
with them, it's your right to have them... It's also my right to read
this list about DISNEY COMICS and not have to wade through your
political manifesto.
Please keep that in mind the next time you feel the need to get this off
your chest.
-Matt-
RE: Your political opinions
I don't know you, but i'm sure you're a decent enough guy. But I don't
think we need this kind of venom being spewed here. Not only is it off
topic (SEVERELY off topic), But is also offensive to pretty much
everyone on this Mailing List who mail hail from the US of A. You're
entitled to your opinions, of course, and as much as I agree or disagree
with them, it's your right to have them... It's also my right to read
this list about DISNEY COMICS and not have to wade through your
political manifesto.
Please keep that in mind the next time you feel the need to get this off
your chest.
-Matt-
Katie Sullivan
More ramblings and further replies...
Message 100 -
1998-05-10 at 04:43:02
Well, I'm back from shopping and my cousin's birthday supper, and I'll comment on the other things
I meant to discuss earlier.
Perhaps I missed something on the ML earlier about this, but I was surprised to read the following
on the inside front over of WDC&S 625:
"As you have probably noticed by now, we've dropped Rosa's stories from the pages of WDC&S in
order to give Don a permanent slot in our new prestige format book, Uncle Scrooge."
I guess this is good news. It sounds like we're guaranteed Rosa in the U$ title, and those who
don't wish to get a hundredth copy of an old reprint or other such material don't feel "forced"
into buying WDC&S, as some people have said they feel. Still, Rosa's departure from the title
brings a pang of unhappiness. If his work will appear more often in U$, though, then it's worth
the sacrifice. ;-)
To comment on the contents of this particular issue of WDC&S (spoilers ahead)...
When I pick up a new duck story, I always think either "Barks" "Rosa" "Van Horn" or "somebody
else". European fans will have to excuse my limited scope, but those are the major artists I have
been exposed to, and they have their own instantly recognizeable styles.
Thus when I picked up WDC&S 625, I thought..."Oh, Van Horn." I liked this story a lot. I thought
Van Horn's proportions were nicer to look at than some of his other stories, and HD&L were
especially good. The plot was cute, too, and since I've delved into a lot of Shakespeare in the
last year for school, I appreciated the Yorick, Hamlet, et al, references.
Re: Goofy Meets the Reluctant Dragon:
There was a nostalgia surrounding this story for me, since I remember it from early childhood. An
odd crossover, Goofy and the Reluctant Dragon, but I enjoy both occasionally.
The Barks selection was, as usual, a wonderful story, and one which I don't remember being
reprinted all that recently, so no complaints whatsoever.
I enjoyed "Win, Win, Win," although the plot was rather predictable. I always enjoy seeing
Flintheart Glomgold, even when he's not in the traditional "Barks/Rosa/South Africa" setting.
You all know that Mickey isn't my top choice when it comes to comics, but I certainly had no real
complaints about the Mickey story here. Fine art, etc. The same for Bucky Bug, which is sort of
fun to read, with its light tone and melodious dialouge.
The second Barks selection with Gyro wasn't that familiar to me, and I enjoyed the ironic ending.
Moving on to U$ 310...
I already commented on "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink". "The Spider Yarn" was interesting but
a tad long, but I think that was just my mood at the time.
"A Sticky Story" was really quite original, and I enjoyed it, especially how Donald's employment
came full circle.
"Back to Long Ago" is of course a Barks classic, and except for the fact that I read it very
recently, I enjoyed it very much.
I'll stop rambling now! :-)
Katie Quackfaster
I meant to discuss earlier.
Perhaps I missed something on the ML earlier about this, but I was surprised to read the following
on the inside front over of WDC&S 625:
"As you have probably noticed by now, we've dropped Rosa's stories from the pages of WDC&S in
order to give Don a permanent slot in our new prestige format book, Uncle Scrooge."
I guess this is good news. It sounds like we're guaranteed Rosa in the U$ title, and those who
don't wish to get a hundredth copy of an old reprint or other such material don't feel "forced"
into buying WDC&S, as some people have said they feel. Still, Rosa's departure from the title
brings a pang of unhappiness. If his work will appear more often in U$, though, then it's worth
the sacrifice. ;-)
To comment on the contents of this particular issue of WDC&S (spoilers ahead)...
When I pick up a new duck story, I always think either "Barks" "Rosa" "Van Horn" or "somebody
else". European fans will have to excuse my limited scope, but those are the major artists I have
been exposed to, and they have their own instantly recognizeable styles.
Thus when I picked up WDC&S 625, I thought..."Oh, Van Horn." I liked this story a lot. I thought
Van Horn's proportions were nicer to look at than some of his other stories, and HD&L were
especially good. The plot was cute, too, and since I've delved into a lot of Shakespeare in the
last year for school, I appreciated the Yorick, Hamlet, et al, references.
Re: Goofy Meets the Reluctant Dragon:
There was a nostalgia surrounding this story for me, since I remember it from early childhood. An
odd crossover, Goofy and the Reluctant Dragon, but I enjoy both occasionally.
The Barks selection was, as usual, a wonderful story, and one which I don't remember being
reprinted all that recently, so no complaints whatsoever.
I enjoyed "Win, Win, Win," although the plot was rather predictable. I always enjoy seeing
Flintheart Glomgold, even when he's not in the traditional "Barks/Rosa/South Africa" setting.
You all know that Mickey isn't my top choice when it comes to comics, but I certainly had no real
complaints about the Mickey story here. Fine art, etc. The same for Bucky Bug, which is sort of
fun to read, with its light tone and melodious dialouge.
The second Barks selection with Gyro wasn't that familiar to me, and I enjoyed the ironic ending.
Moving on to U$ 310...
I already commented on "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink". "The Spider Yarn" was interesting but
a tad long, but I think that was just my mood at the time.
"A Sticky Story" was really quite original, and I enjoyed it, especially how Donald's employment
came full circle.
"Back to Long Ago" is of course a Barks classic, and except for the fact that I read it very
recently, I enjoyed it very much.
I'll stop rambling now! :-)
Katie Quackfaster
Merlin Haas
Paul Murry
Message 101 -
1998-05-10 at 05:00:25
Paolo wrote:
> The problem is IMHO that in the USA the public learned
> to know Mickey from Paul Murray stories, and so they
> knew a VERY MINOR mouse, intended for children and with
> a graphic style very "easy", without all the qualities
> that can be found in Gottfredson works: Gottfredson and
> Walsh made of Mickey a man, a *modern* hero in the best
> literary way, a sort of Ulysses (I mean the one from
> Joyce), while Murray reduced the Mouse to a single
> dimension character, and a very poor man, or better an
> UNEXISTING man, just a comics product: when I read a
> Murray story I (and anyone else) know what the story is
> about, how the plot will go on, what Goffy will do,
> etc... and all with a too easy art.
A couple points here. First, the correct spelling is M-U-R-R-Y. Second,
comparing Paul Murry to Floyd Goffredson is not fair. Murry was an
artist, illustrating stories by others (Carl Fallberg wrote many of the
Mickey Mouse serials in the back of WDC&S) As far as I know he never
wrote any comic material (I seem to remember an interview where he said
he didn't *want* to write. He was content to just be an artist (and
letterer, and I believe, colorist).
As for Murry's art being "easy" I'll disagree. It's clean and direct,
establishes the proper mood, and tells the story clearly. Gottfredson
was doing Mickey for a newspaper audience in bits and pieces and his
storytelling reflects that. Murry was doing longer stories that moved at
a more even pace. It's apples and oranges.
best -- Merlin Haas
> The problem is IMHO that in the USA the public learned
> to know Mickey from Paul Murray stories, and so they
> knew a VERY MINOR mouse, intended for children and with
> a graphic style very "easy", without all the qualities
> that can be found in Gottfredson works: Gottfredson and
> Walsh made of Mickey a man, a *modern* hero in the best
> literary way, a sort of Ulysses (I mean the one from
> Joyce), while Murray reduced the Mouse to a single
> dimension character, and a very poor man, or better an
> UNEXISTING man, just a comics product: when I read a
> Murray story I (and anyone else) know what the story is
> about, how the plot will go on, what Goffy will do,
> etc... and all with a too easy art.
A couple points here. First, the correct spelling is M-U-R-R-Y. Second,
comparing Paul Murry to Floyd Goffredson is not fair. Murry was an
artist, illustrating stories by others (Carl Fallberg wrote many of the
Mickey Mouse serials in the back of WDC&S) As far as I know he never
wrote any comic material (I seem to remember an interview where he said
he didn't *want* to write. He was content to just be an artist (and
letterer, and I believe, colorist).
As for Murry's art being "easy" I'll disagree. It's clean and direct,
establishes the proper mood, and tells the story clearly. Gottfredson
was doing Mickey for a newspaper audience in bits and pieces and his
storytelling reflects that. Murry was doing longer stories that moved at
a more even pace. It's apples and oranges.
best -- Merlin Haas
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V98 #119
Message 102 -
1998-05-10 at 14:43:36
>From: "Dan Shane"
>Reminds me of the HAPPY DAYS episode where the grammatically correct
>principal of the high school (portrayed by Dick van Patten) announced the
>upcoming senior class play, HELL'S A-POPPIN, as HELL IS POPPING.
>Apparently the Disney folks didn't get that joke if they ever saw the show.
Disney is truly not far from that position. They won't allow a comic
character to even say "what the...", simply because of what *might* be the
next word in that phrase. And that applies to even if that word would be
"heck" since that is also banned because 637 years ago people still
remembered that it was a polite way to say "hell".
So... "what the..." is banned in order to protect readers from their own
imaginations, and to prevent anyone accusing Disney of causing them to
*think* of a bad word on their own.
>From: Kriton
>I wonder, though, if "Byman" isn't what someone made of someone else's
>poor handwriting?
No... the Egmont scripts are, of course, typed (and in English).
>From: (Email removed) (Shaun Craill)
>I finally received Don Rosa's 'A Little Something Special' a couple of days
>ago and read it last night. I couldn't help but notice that Gladstone had
>censored the cover so that Don's hidden dedication now says "U.C.K." From
>the shocked look on all the faces of the characters on the cover one
wonders
>what the original said... ;-)>Only kidding Don!
Yeah, but there *IS* a mystery about Gladstone's use of that cover that I've
never remembered to ask anyone. If you look at the crowd of people near the
stage (in other words, I'm not referring to itty-bitty background faces)
right in front of Donald's foot (I believe), there's one face right smack in
the center of the bunch that *I did not draw*. The face that I had drawn
there was removed, and a different one is inserted. (And, yes, the face I
drew was not doing anything nasty, it was just another face-in-the-crowd.)
And an odd face this new one is, skinny, sexless, with a tiny puckered
mouth, and with a large shapeless glob on top of its head that looks sorta
like a deflated hairy basketball. I haven't the slightest idea why someone
would do this, unless they thought it would be cute to draw part of a comic
book cover and stuck their contribution in a spot where they figured no one
would notice. The only other possibility I can think of is that they
originally had that "special 50th anniversary" blurb there, then decided to
move it to the top of the cover, but didn't bother to get a fresh photostat
of the cover art and simply sketched in a new face where they'd made a hole
in the stat.
>From: "Mathew Hounsell"
>'Don Rosa' wrote : "The letterer is the last person to see the script, and
he proofreads
>his own work..."
>10 bucks says it's only to check it is what was written, I doubt the letter
would
>have the authority to question the writer.
You'd be right... but that's not *all* that I wrote. I said that this
letterer not only was the letterer and proofreader, but *also* the
editor-in-chief and resident continuity expert. But I later was told that
this story was NOT lettered by hand by John Clark, but was done by someone
else on a computer, so the whole issue is moot, so forget it already.
>Reminds me of the HAPPY DAYS episode where the grammatically correct
>principal of the high school (portrayed by Dick van Patten) announced the
>upcoming senior class play, HELL'S A-POPPIN, as HELL IS POPPING.
>Apparently the Disney folks didn't get that joke if they ever saw the show.
Disney is truly not far from that position. They won't allow a comic
character to even say "what the...", simply because of what *might* be the
next word in that phrase. And that applies to even if that word would be
"heck" since that is also banned because 637 years ago people still
remembered that it was a polite way to say "hell".
So... "what the..." is banned in order to protect readers from their own
imaginations, and to prevent anyone accusing Disney of causing them to
*think* of a bad word on their own.
>From: Kriton
>I wonder, though, if "Byman" isn't what someone made of someone else's
>poor handwriting?
No... the Egmont scripts are, of course, typed (and in English).
>From: (Email removed) (Shaun Craill)
>I finally received Don Rosa's 'A Little Something Special' a couple of days
>ago and read it last night. I couldn't help but notice that Gladstone had
>censored the cover so that Don's hidden dedication now says "U.C.K." From
>the shocked look on all the faces of the characters on the cover one
wonders
>what the original said... ;-)>Only kidding Don!
Yeah, but there *IS* a mystery about Gladstone's use of that cover that I've
never remembered to ask anyone. If you look at the crowd of people near the
stage (in other words, I'm not referring to itty-bitty background faces)
right in front of Donald's foot (I believe), there's one face right smack in
the center of the bunch that *I did not draw*. The face that I had drawn
there was removed, and a different one is inserted. (And, yes, the face I
drew was not doing anything nasty, it was just another face-in-the-crowd.)
And an odd face this new one is, skinny, sexless, with a tiny puckered
mouth, and with a large shapeless glob on top of its head that looks sorta
like a deflated hairy basketball. I haven't the slightest idea why someone
would do this, unless they thought it would be cute to draw part of a comic
book cover and stuck their contribution in a spot where they figured no one
would notice. The only other possibility I can think of is that they
originally had that "special 50th anniversary" blurb there, then decided to
move it to the top of the cover, but didn't bother to get a fresh photostat
of the cover art and simply sketched in a new face where they'd made a hole
in the stat.
>From: "Mathew Hounsell"
>'Don Rosa' wrote : "The letterer is the last person to see the script, and
he proofreads
>his own work..."
>10 bucks says it's only to check it is what was written, I doubt the letter
would
>have the authority to question the writer.
You'd be right... but that's not *all* that I wrote. I said that this
letterer not only was the letterer and proofreader, but *also* the
editor-in-chief and resident continuity expert. But I later was told that
this story was NOT lettered by hand by John Clark, but was done by someone
else on a computer, so the whole issue is moot, so forget it already.
Francois Willot
L'inferno di Topolino
Message 103 -
1998-05-10 at 16:00:45
MARCO:
I finally downloaded the last page of "Ho sposato una strega"; thanks!
I think nothing was said on the list about this story that you didn't
already said. I only mentionned that for the record.
Btw, if I understand well the witch's father changed time, and so at the
end of the story Mickey didn't really marry the witch, or only in a
parallel universe.
SHAUN:
>Oh joy! This means my U$ story idea involving a garbage dump will have
>an extra level of meaning in France!
There's no more Danish stories by Vicar or Branca in Picsou, but maybe
it will be published in Super Picsou or Mickey. But is your story long
enough (around 10 pages)?
So you have stopped writting short JW stories?
PAOLO:
>>But I can't think of any Italian story with Squinch (or
>>Shister)
>
>Once again in few days here comes on the list "L'inferno
>di Topolino", that features Eli Squinch at page 33 of
>the italian version of I Classici #1. He appears in a
>"strange" situation for a Disney comic: he is burning on
>a fire in order to be punished for his greed!!!
Oh, yes! I'd love to read that story, you know. I did read Dante's opera
(the "Inferno" part only) and I've only *seen* the Martina version. By
the way, what do you think of the Chierchini version? I liked that
story, very original IMO, but in "I Disney Italiani" they said the
Martina story is much better.
By the way, your Topolino index seems great (and much more reliable than
the one we had before)! (I'll especially look at the Brazilian
stories...).
MATHEW HOUNSELL:
>"Paolino Paperino e il mistero di Marte" What? Sorry I only speak
>English, I want to learn spanish but that's beside the point, can you
>do me a favour and put approximate translations next to the proper
>titles.
I'm not sure about the exact translation of "Paolino", but the title
means "Donald Duck and the mystery of Mars". Published by Gladstone in
DD 286, the first DD adventure, at least the first from Italy.
And "L'inferno di Topolino" above means "The Hell of Mickey" or
"Mickey's hell" (if this makes sense in English).
And "Ho Sposato una strega" means "I married a witch".
I think that's all in this message...
Francois
I finally downloaded the last page of "Ho sposato una strega"; thanks!
I think nothing was said on the list about this story that you didn't
already said. I only mentionned that for the record.
Btw, if I understand well the witch's father changed time, and so at the
end of the story Mickey didn't really marry the witch, or only in a
parallel universe.
SHAUN:
>Oh joy! This means my U$ story idea involving a garbage dump will have
>an extra level of meaning in France!
There's no more Danish stories by Vicar or Branca in Picsou, but maybe
it will be published in Super Picsou or Mickey. But is your story long
enough (around 10 pages)?
So you have stopped writting short JW stories?
PAOLO:
>>But I can't think of any Italian story with Squinch (or
>>Shister)
>
>Once again in few days here comes on the list "L'inferno
>di Topolino", that features Eli Squinch at page 33 of
>the italian version of I Classici #1. He appears in a
>"strange" situation for a Disney comic: he is burning on
>a fire in order to be punished for his greed!!!
Oh, yes! I'd love to read that story, you know. I did read Dante's opera
(the "Inferno" part only) and I've only *seen* the Martina version. By
the way, what do you think of the Chierchini version? I liked that
story, very original IMO, but in "I Disney Italiani" they said the
Martina story is much better.
By the way, your Topolino index seems great (and much more reliable than
the one we had before)! (I'll especially look at the Brazilian
stories...).
MATHEW HOUNSELL:
>"Paolino Paperino e il mistero di Marte" What? Sorry I only speak
>English, I want to learn spanish but that's beside the point, can you
>do me a favour and put approximate translations next to the proper
>titles.
I'm not sure about the exact translation of "Paolino", but the title
means "Donald Duck and the mystery of Mars". Published by Gladstone in
DD 286, the first DD adventure, at least the first from Italy.
And "L'inferno di Topolino" above means "The Hell of Mickey" or
"Mickey's hell" (if this makes sense in English).
And "Ho Sposato una strega" means "I married a witch".
I think that's all in this message...
Francois
Francois Willot
Subscription
Message 104 -
1998-05-10 at 16:07:17
>I was wondering if any list members in France could let me know if
>Picsou offered overseas subscriptions.
>Thanks!
>Kevin Greenlee
The folowing was posted on this list a few months ago:
-- start --
The rate for 12 issues is:
For France: 159FF
For Austria, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Spain, UK, Greece, Irland,
Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal: 219FF
For the other European countries: 235FF
For USA, Canada and Middle-East: 265FF
Other American countries: 300FF
Oceania: 330FF
The rate for 24 issues is:
For France: 288FF
For Austria, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Spain, UK, Greece, Irland,
Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal: 357FF
For the other European countries: 390FF
For USA, Canada and Middle-East: 450FF
Other American countries: 515FF
Oceania: 575FF
All those prices include postage.
You can pay by:
Credit Card (Visa, mastercard and any card that has 16 figures)
International money order
You should send your payment to:
Picsou Magazine Abonnements
TSA 90213
92887 Nanterre
Cedex 9
France
-- end --
>Picsou offered overseas subscriptions.
>Thanks!
>Kevin Greenlee
The folowing was posted on this list a few months ago:
-- start --
The rate for 12 issues is:
For France: 159FF
For Austria, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Spain, UK, Greece, Irland,
Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal: 219FF
For the other European countries: 235FF
For USA, Canada and Middle-East: 265FF
Other American countries: 300FF
Oceania: 330FF
The rate for 24 issues is:
For France: 288FF
For Austria, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Spain, UK, Greece, Irland,
Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal: 357FF
For the other European countries: 390FF
For USA, Canada and Middle-East: 450FF
Other American countries: 515FF
Oceania: 575FF
All those prices include postage.
You can pay by:
Credit Card (Visa, mastercard and any card that has 16 figures)
International money order
You should send your payment to:
Picsou Magazine Abonnements
TSA 90213
92887 Nanterre
Cedex 9
France
-- end --
Francois Willot
Smooth drawings
Message 105 -
1998-05-10 at 16:40:11
DON ROSA:
>The printing problem I notice in PICSOU is that they take my art (with
>the linework that I work so hard to make ultrasmooooooth),
>computer-scan it, and it gets printed in pixelated form... the linework
>comes out all jaggedy. But they usually do an excellent job of coloring
>it.
For the covers of Picsou, Patrice Croci usually re-inks a Barks drawing
(or several drawings from different stories), then the drawings are
scanned and *polished* by computer. That's why the covers of Picsou are
ultrasmoooooth! Maybe they can't do that for your drawings, with so many
details. And maybe you wouldn't like the idea that someone could alter
them...
And I think the paper used for Picsou is not good for smooth drawings,
too. Unfortunately.
>I also just received a stack of the French edition of my "Lo$"-PLUS. It
>contains all 12 chapters, PLUS "Hearts of the Yukon", "Vigilante of
>Pizen Bluff", and "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... 300 pages of
>story under one cover (no text features)... for 29 francs... that's
>about $4.60 !
Or 4.43 EURO. Hachette, by the way, added the last page of chapter 3,
which was missing in Picsou. But the lettering was badly done. The thing
I dislike in all the Egmont publications, by the way, is the computer
lettering. Hopefully, Gladstone, Disney Italia and Hachette have
letterers!
>The printing problem I notice in PICSOU is that they take my art (with
>the linework that I work so hard to make ultrasmooooooth),
>computer-scan it, and it gets printed in pixelated form... the linework
>comes out all jaggedy. But they usually do an excellent job of coloring
>it.
For the covers of Picsou, Patrice Croci usually re-inks a Barks drawing
(or several drawings from different stories), then the drawings are
scanned and *polished* by computer. That's why the covers of Picsou are
ultrasmoooooth! Maybe they can't do that for your drawings, with so many
details. And maybe you wouldn't like the idea that someone could alter
them...
And I think the paper used for Picsou is not good for smooth drawings,
too. Unfortunately.
>I also just received a stack of the French edition of my "Lo$"-PLUS. It
>contains all 12 chapters, PLUS "Hearts of the Yukon", "Vigilante of
>Pizen Bluff", and "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"... 300 pages of
>story under one cover (no text features)... for 29 francs... that's
>about $4.60 !
Or 4.43 EURO. Hachette, by the way, added the last page of chapter 3,
which was missing in Picsou. But the lettering was badly done. The thing
I dislike in all the Egmont publications, by the way, is the computer
lettering. Hopefully, Gladstone, Disney Italia and Hachette have
letterers!