Keskustelujen arkisto

>I've made some scans of the tomato-story.
>You can find it at:

> http://home.sol.no/~vidasven/disney-comics/2mat8.jpg
>
Well.. my only comment is...

Tomato Ketchup with Wienerschnitzel!!!

Outrageous!!!

:-)

Steamboat Willie

It's less than 5 days that I'm on the list and I already have a question.

This is about a story with DD and US with an "Italian look" - I mean
Scarpa's look.

Subject:
Scrooge and Donald train their own frog for a jump contest. Scrooge have to
bring
his "champion" in its native land because it is "melancholic". Donald gets
Gyro's help
to increase the strenght of his weak frog. Donald win the contest and have
to run away
with the price because the judges can't accept doping - Donald is betrayed
by Scrooge
of course.

So ! if you have any information about this story, artist, writter, etc,
that would a great
progress for the French list :-)
There's some other stories with the same art.

If you want to answer to me alone, please do it to (Email removed) thank you

Oliv

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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #270
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Sorry
I forgot to translate "dedicace"
Dedication - simple isn't it ?
(To porpose a toast)
oliv

Gary

> Once you factor in the discount off of cover price to Diamond to
distribute
> our books, that $1 million shrinks by more than half. After the Diamond
> discount, prepress and print bills gulp down around three-quarters of that.
> Then Disney's royalty rate, based on *cover* price of units sold, eats up
> the lion's share of what remains.
>

I knew I had forgotten someone...
in this case mainly the share of the dealers

Soeren

Oliv "Vile Frite":

> I forgot to translate "dedicace"
> Dedication - simple isn't it ?
>
Yes, simple. I would have known right away if you hadn't spelled it like
"dedidace" in your original mail... 8-)

BTW, just curious: what does "Vile Frite" mean? It looks like a Belgian
spelling of the name "Wilfried"...

--Harry.

Hi again my fellow donaldists and duck-lovers!

WANTED:

I'm looking for more and more facts about ONE story in particular.

it's about Barks "The Gilded Man"...

I want to know, specifically, about the differences between
translations and editions. So If you can inform me about
the Italian, Danish, German editions, specially early 70'ies,
then I would be very grateful.

To know what I have done until know, just take a peak at
this page: http://www.abc.se/~m8100/disney-comics/

WANTED AGAIN:

Another quest of mine is to locate Paul Murry's (it's Murry, isn't
it???) adaption of the
same manuscript. Murry have clearly used Barks story. He have even
copied most
gags and facts from Barks. Compare this panel:
http://www.abc.se/~m8100/disney-comics/Gm.gif

with Barks own:
http://www.abc.se/~m8100/disney-comics/Gd.gif

I have never read the english original.. I just stumbled over the
Swedish translation
one day... So.. if anyone can give me details about it.. ALL details, I
would be
very happy... If someone could copy or loan me the original... I would
consider
selling parts of my flesh and soul... :-)

Yours:

Steamboat Willie

>> To know what I have done until know, just take a peak at
>> this page: http://www.abc.se/~m8100/disney-comics/

>I have seen that page before, and it's very interesting to see things
like
>this!

Well, thank you! I have modified this page a bit since the last time.
I'll shortly include your facts too.

> Maybe we should do an exercise like that for other stories too. (I
>know a few butcherings, though not as astonishing as this one...)

Perhaps... For me, this story is interesting on several levels.
1) I too collect stamps.
2) Never before and after have Barks ploughed down so many facts and
done so much background research into a story.
It's more than meets the eye...
3) The two Murry-sories mentioned.

I would like to see someone do a site or page about what we in sweden
call "plankism"
(Plagiarism and Donaldism combined). I.e. remade stories. it's an
interesting field and I
would like to do something myself, but I haven't got enough reference
material for a story
like this.

Re-use of stories isn't exclusively a Disney-matter either.. I know of
at least *TWO* stories
where you can find the exact same story with Woody Woodpecker and Donald
Duck in separate
publications.

> > Another quest of mine is to locate Paul Murry's (it's Murry, isn't
> > it???) adaption of the
> > same manuscript.
>
> Yes, it's Murry. The database information is:
>
> W MM 74-01 (15 pages) PM MM T:The Rare Stamp Search
> [app:MI,
> | MF] [xref:W OS 422-02(remake)]
> | dk: AA63-52+
> | nl: 72-19*,M87-04,VB.78*
> | se: 64-01+
> | us: MM 156
>
Thank you! Do anyone know where I can read the original? I have the
Swedish 64-01.
No Guilded man in this btw.

MM 156 anyone?

> But there's ANOTHER story by Murry, based on the same script! I don't
know
> the original USA publication of that one, but the Dutch information
is: 8
> pages, reprinted in Holland in 1961, first panel shows a photograph,
so it's
> probably an "MM Album" story.

Okay.. I don't think I have seen that... But I have seen a second MM
story which I *think*
is Murry. I don't remember so well, it was a long time ago.. It have a
story which is a bit
similar. It's clearly the same setting. (1856, British Guiana) but all
the other facts are
scrambled (pink, stamp. teethed stamp. 1 penny with a crocodile...)
I'll see if I can
find it's storycode.

It's an unusual story and it involves Bananas, diamond smugglers, Goofy,

a monkey, a postmaster and a whole box of the very rare stamps (which,
incidentally is handled without tweezers... No philatelist since F.D.
Roosevelt
would put fingerprints on his stamps if he can avoid it... Fingerprints
are
like *acid* on stamps and literally eats them over time.)

As a curiosity I can recall a cameo made by the magenta stamp and it's
owner Philo T. Ellic in a recent van Horn-story, where Donald poses as
an
expert in removing blots and spots. (Why can't Mickey call him to remove

The Blot? :-) Van Horn didn't do half the research Barks did on his
story
and Donald removes an ink-blot from the stamp in a fashion that would
have made this valuable stamp rendered even more worthless than if he
had left the blot as it was. But I don't expect such research just for
a
gag... Because this is just one gag to build Donalds reputation until
the *REAL* story begins. Except for this I think it's very amusing.

Steamboat Willie

> Yep, Freddy Milton has been re-using his stories in the past...
> On this list we discovered that there are at least FIVE versions of
"The Big
> Sneeze" (Original Duck, Kalle Klodrik, Woody Woodpecker, Improved
Duck,
> Family Gnuff)!

It would be very interesting to get all these five together on a
"plankist" site...
Maybe we can cooperate a few of us?

>> As a curiosity I can recall a cameo made by the magenta stamp
>> and it's owner Philo T. Ellic in a recent van Horn-story, where
>> Donald poses as an expert in removing blots and spots.

>Is that a different story than the Milton/Jippes story (where Donald
ends up
>cleaning the town hall clock)? Are you or am I mixing things up? The
story I
>mean is neither Van Horn, nor "recent" (1977).

Of course it's me that made a goof. I'm at work and don't have any
reference material handy. It was a couple of years ago.. and yes,
anything
later than 1975 seems very recent to me.. Perhaps I'm getting old...

Steamboat Willie