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Paolo Castagno
Hi,

S=F8ren Krarup Olesen wrote:
> In other words; if I ask my 65 years old father who "F=E6tter Vims"
> (Fethry) is he would surely know, but is Pape...xxx recognised by any
> Italian??? I guess that's for Marco... :-)

Hope you don't mind if I asnwer a question for Marco... ;-)

Surely ANY Italian can tell you who Paperino, Paperina, Paperone,
Paperoga, Paperinik, Paperwhoever are.

Maybe *just* the greater part (not the 100%) of Italians know who
Phantom Blot, Emil Eagle and Hard Haid Moe are.

- Paolo
http://i.am/castagno
Fluks, H.W.
Stefan wrote:

> I found this info in the I.N.D.U.C.K.S. database:
>
> Disney comics story CS WDC '97
> Donald Duck: Somewhere in Nowhere
> Story code
> CS WDC '97

Note that this code is made up by me. Since no editor accepted the story
(yet?), there is no "real" story code. Since a story in INDUCKS needs a
code, I make them up in cases like this.

--Harry.
http://here.is/inducks
Fluks, H.W.
> From: Santiago Garcia Banhos [mailto:(Email removed)]

> Hey! It seems Spain has been in fashion this week. I hope you have
> enjoyed your visits. I'm very sorry not to have been able to meet you,
> maybe another time...

Where in Spain do you live? I never thought of contacting you when I was
planning the visit to Barcelona...

> >Uncle Scrooge is called
> >Gilito, while in older comics he was Tio Rico ("Uncle Rich"
> As far as I know
> U$ has always been translated in Spain as "T=EDo Gilito"

OK. My information came from the book written by Marcia Blitz. She probab=
ly
doesn't know the difference between Spain and other Spanish-language
countries. (Though I learned in Spain that Castilian and Latin-American
Spanish are hardly the same language...)

> >1. There are very few Disney comics in Spain.
> IN FACT SO IT IS! :-(

Still, if you're interested in helping us make an index of those for our
Inducks database, let me know!
The current Spanish index can be seen on the web at:
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/Spain.html
Soon I will add indexes for the books I bought last week.

> This "Ole Disney" is a collection of several kind of comics,=20
> mainly from
> Spanish authors and characters (like "Mortadelo y Filem=F3n").

Actually, there are 2 album series: "Ol=E9" and "Ol=E9 Disney". The Ol=E9=
Disney
series contains Disney comics only.

> I have even seen a compilation of the 6 [Life of Scrooge]
> albums in one single book.

Don also wrote me he had that album! I wish I had seen it!

--Harry.
(Now owner of Lo$ in Dutch, USA English, Danish, Swedish (partly), French=
,
Italian, and... Spanish.)
JALustig
In the last couple of digests, several people had questions and/or had
comments about "Somewhere in Nowhere"...a story that was based on an idea by
Carl Barks and that I scripted and Pat Block drew. It's been well over a
year since I've been in touch with the editor of the company that bought this
story. At that time, the editor asked me to say very little about the
purchase of the story. I was told that the publishing company didn't want
it's name revealed until it was ready to publish "Somewhere in Nowhere." The
editor's reasoning was that (because Barks' name is connected to the project)
the publisher didn't want fans to deluge the office with questions about the
project...especially in regard to it's publication date.

I had no idea, however, that things were going to drag on this long. Frankly,
I'm kind of curious about what's going on with this project myself. I'm going
to e-mail the editor and try to find out what's going on. If I learn anything
that I can pass onto this mailing list (without stepping on any editorial
toes) then I certainly will.

I know that all this secrecy must seem pretty strange to many of you. All I
can say is that it's been a strange project from the very beginning.

Oh, by the way. I want to say thanks to Rodney W. Bowcock Jr. Glad to hear
you've enjoyed my stories.

--John Lustig
Marco Barlotti
At 14:47:10 +0300 Fri, 24 Sep 1999, "Dr. Archontis Pantsios"
<(Email removed)> wrote:

>
>I believe that about a year ago, John Lustig reported in this very List that
>a European publisher had bought the story, but that he didn't wish to report
>anything more on the matter. Does he have any updated info on that one?
>

Well....
A little bird told me in an ear that it was DISNEY ITALY that brought this
story... for an incredible amount of money... that the art is not very
good, and who knows when this will hit the press?

That's all I can (re)tell, I'll never ever give out my source, and it's not
very much after all, is it?

(If you want my very humble and perfidious opinion, I think Disney Italy is
waiting for Uncle Carl to pass away and THEN they'll hit the press with a
grand smash, no matter the quality of the story... but then after all I'm
the evil mailing-list memeber, don't you remember? ;-) ;-) ;-) )

Marco

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End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #168
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Marco Barlotti
At 14:05:04 +0200, "Santiago Garcia Banhos" <(Email removed)>
wrote:
>>1. There are very few Disney comics in Spain. They seem to have had a
>IN FACT SO IT IS! :-(
>
>The oldest Disney comics I own are form the 60's, translated form
>Gladstone (I guess): old stories mainly by Barks, Murry or Strobol.
>Later, in the 70's and 80's there was the DON MIKI collection, which
>was - you're right, Harry - from Topolino. Unfortunately, in the late
>80's this collection seeemed to be falling down. I stopped buying
>because the quality was so awful... (the 10 last issues I bought was
>re-reprintings of recent stories!). And I have the idea that lastly it
>was published by Portuguese 'Abril' or 'Morumbi' company, but it dind't
>take too longer. Nowadays there are no periodic publications of Disney
>Comics here (as far as I know, of course).
>

Mmmmhhh.... I went to Mexico last August (just to find out about Zapotec
culture... those who know the Italian Mickey time-machine series can
understand me!) and I stopped at the airport in Madrid. Of course I looked
after Spanish Disney comics.
I found:
- an album with a Spanish version of "Christmas in Shacktown". Well, that
doesn't count, who knows when it was printed?
- a "MINNIE" comic book. Giving away a "trousse" or something anyway for
girlies... so that's why I didn't feel like buying it. But THIS seemed a
REGULAR Spanish Disney comic!

(In Mexico, as I found out, there are NO Disney comics. But old Mexican
Disney comics, which I found at a flea market, just look like the USA
ones... so no wonder there are no more, huh?) :-(

Marco
Marco Barlotti
At 21:58:17 +0200 Fri, 24 Sep 1999 Soeren Krarup Olesen <(Email removed)>
wrote:
>
>
>In other words; if I ask my 65 years old father who "F=E6tter Vims"
>(Fethry) is he would surely know, but is Pape...xxx recognised by any
>Italian??? I guess that's for Marco... :-)
>

I'll tell you this. When I teach Mathematics I often use names like "Pippo,
Pluto, Paperino" (Goofy, Pluto, Donald) for unknowns (instead of the more
usual x, y, z). Well, at the examinations, it's not unusual that the
student says "Let Paperoga (=Fethry) be the unknown...".
As for 65-old people... That's more difficult to tell. My father is 76, he
grew up with Gottfredson, then he knew Barks, but Fethry... that's too much
for him I guess.
Overall, Disney character are very very popular in Italy. It's not
unfrequent that they are quoted in serious political essays, and a very
famous political cartoonist (Forattini) ten years ago used many Disney
characters to portrait government people (not Fethry though)...

Marco
Sschridde
Hi Arthur!

Could you drop me a note if you should've found someone to
providde you with Japanese Disney comics?

If you don't succeed, (very) maybe I could ask my japanese penpal.

Soeren

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Egmont Japan launched a new monthly Mickey Mouse Comic magazine earlier this
> year in which Mickey appears in Japanese Manga style, drawn by Japanese
> Manga artists. I am very interested in this new title and am wondering if
> anyone on this mailing list is able to get me some issues of this. Do we
> have any members from Japan here? I have many Disney comics to trade. In
> addition I'd like to trade for Disney comics from Asian, African and South
> American countries for my collection. If anyone (from those regions) can
> help me please email me privately.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arthur
>
> ------------------------------
>

Soeren Schridde

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Nisse Krenchel
Marco Barlotti:
> (If you want my very humble and perfidious opinion, I think Disney Italy is
> waiting for Uncle Carl to pass away and THEN they'll hit the press with a
> grand smash, no matter the quality of the story...

I certainly hope that they are waiting for a 100 years birthday celebration super speciel mega issue !!!

> but then after all I'm
> the evil mailing-list memeber, don't you remember? ;-) ;-) ;-) )

Hear Hear !! ;-)

Nisse
Santiago Garcia Banhos
HARRY:

>Where in Spain do you live? I never thought of contacting you when
>I was planning the visit to Barcelona...
Never mind; I live in Madrid and furthermore I've been very busy
last week.

Santiago.
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
PER-ERIK:

>You are right on the date Archontis, but not the contents:
>"[...]I certainly don't want anyone bugging these publishers because they
>think they're being too cheap. The story was commissioned by the Barks
>Studio. The studio paid me and artist Pat Block to create the story. As a
>result, the studio owns the story. It's selling price was considerably more
>than the going rate at Egmont and this was a concern. But there were
>definitely other reasons besides just money that story was not
>purchased.[...]"

I know that my memory betrays me often recently, but not this time, as can
be attested to by the remarks in Digest #168 by Marco and John Lustig
himself. The text you quote above is an earlier posting than the one I
remembered and referred to. I remembered very vividly reading a message in
early 1999, I believe, about a publisher having bought "Somewhere in
Nowhere". Now, we at last learn that this publisher is Disney Italia. Let's
rejoice then: "Somewhere in Nowhere" isn't nowhere anymore; it's somewhere
in Italy! :-) What's left is the "somewhen"! :-)

Cheers,

Archontis
Georgios Balanikas
>PER-ERIK:
>
>
I think I was the first I announced through my question that the SIN story
is going for publishing by DISNEY ITALIA ,the question was When and Where!
This was the reason I asked mainly the Italiam members ,but we got answers
from all over the world.
Any way the question is still unanswered.
Thanks to all,

Georgios Balanikas
Daniel Van Eijmeren
MARCO BARLOTTI, 26-09-1999:

> Well.... A little bird told me in an ear that it was DISNEY ITALY that
> brought this story... for an incredible amount of money... that the
> art is not very good, and who knows when this will hit the press?

I've once seen some pieces of (xeroxed) clean art and it looked good.
The version that has been seen by some fans, has a fax quality. The
dialogue of that fax version is very difficult to read and the dots
make the art look muddy, but that's certainly not the case with the
art I've seen!

I liked the story. It has the atmosphere of "Frozen gold" and "North
of the Yukon". Some people I spoke thought it should be shortened,
but I hope they'll publish the story as it is. (28 pages)

> (If you want my very humble and perfidious opinion, I think Disney
> Italy is waiting for Uncle Carl to pass away and THEN they'll hit
> the press with a grand smash, no matter the quality of the story...
> but then after all I'm the evil mailing-list member, don't you
> remember? ;-) ;-) ;-) )

Or maybe you say what others fear? I hope it's not the reason for the
story being unpublished, because then the fun of waiting for it and
buying it would severely be destroyed for me!

Greetings,

--- Daniel
Bhc
Soren:

>Perhaps we(I) should add that a name like "Andold" is grapped from "And"
>which means "duck" in Danish. Luckily many names begin with "And..." in
>Danish, so as an example we have "Anders" (Donald) and "Andersine"
>(Donaldine=3DDaisy).

As the guy who actually came up with the name "Andold Wildduck", I'd just
like to point out that "Andold" was not based on the Danish definition of
"And", but was simply an anagram of "Donald". Same for "Aydis" (from
"Daisy").

Gary

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"I took the liberty of updating your resume. I'm guessing you'll need it
soon" - the world's smartest garbage man
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Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
To John Lustig, I should thank you for writing such great stories,
especially the Amazon Queen. If there is anyone on the list who hasn't
read this, I urge you to try to find a copy of the story because it is in
my opinion the very best long story Van Horn has drawn. Of course all of
his 10 pagers are hilarious.

Maybe I'm in a minority but I like Pat Block's artwork. Sometimes his
lines look a little too thick, and sometimes lack some of the detail that
other artists put in their stuff, but overall it is pretty nice. But to
each his own I guess............

Rodney Bowcock

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