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hello friends, I know it's too early for this but it was a possible thing
for Inducks
I was just reading an Uncle $crooge comic that i swapped with Ole (thanks),
it has a Barks-classic and a story with the code CP 7, Santas's unexpected
Visit (*spoiler*:) it's about $crooge who's sitting writing his annual
letter to Santa, trying to remember his good deeds but he can't... Then he
goes out in fresh air to try to remember some, He feeds the peigeaons,
saves a bird, who fell from the nest, helps a lady with her
Christmas-presents, but he doesn't notice himself. Then he goes to Grandma
(helping her with the firewood), asks her if she remebers any, and she is
surprised that he writes to santa. She can't remember any good deeds, and
scrooge goes back, on the way he pushes a cow of the railway where a train
was coming. he goes to the doctor, pays him too much (give the rest to your
kids), but gets our before the doctor realises what Scrooge did. Scrooge
goes to see Gyro, who gives him a sodapop, and scrooge gets angry, slammin
his hand (?) in the table, and thereby reapiring a non-working clock. There
was a deed to write to santa about. He writes the letter and throws it in
the wagon just in time. But the mailman comes back with the letter, which
has no stamp, and Scrooge is ready to have a lonely evening. Then Santa
comes, people told him about the things scrooge does, not knowing them, and
he gets his gift. the story ends with Scrooge looking in the mirror,
calling himself a sweet old guy.
end of spoiler so far
the thing is, as soon as I saw a few pages of this I remembered the story
and that i read it before in this special danish Chritmas-comic. it's in
the 1991-issue of the comic with the code D 3684, I suppose it's by Vicar.
AA77-49b D 3684 7 VR US Brevet til julemanden
[xref:W WDCP 7-06]
yep, and there it is... xref. but I hadn't seen that. But well anyways that
wasn't the only thing I wanted to say about the story.
How do you Scrooge-knowers see this? Would Scrooge be doing good deeds not
knowing it in a barks-story or a never one? How often have we seen Santa in
a comic with the ducks or the mice? he does exist in those stories, but I
did read one once, a never one (not the letter to santa by barks) where the
grown-ups, (Scrooge, Donald and Daisy) don't believe in him, but to not
disappoint the kids they order a santa, when this person comes Grandma,
Cousin Gus and HDL are on the Roof, saying goodbye to the real one, with
his sled and all the 8 reindeer. So well, I guess he does exist in
Duckburg. And in reality of course (just in case we have some young readers
here:-)

well, back to lurkmode for a while, shutting my mouth about Xmas until 1st
december (only 3 months... uak)

Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);

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Rich Bellacera wrote:

<<I watched Quack Pack primarily for [Daisy]! I had never thought
myself to be a Daisy-Fan until that show! :-) Unfortunately, her role
in the new animated series, Mickey's MouseWorks, has made her rather
annoying as Minnie's best friend, in her first headliner cartoon. I hope
THAT changes
in her next episode!>>

I couldn't agree more. The Daisy of "Mouseworks" took one big step backward
to the more annoying and demanding Daisy of some of the Barks and non-Barks
comic-book stories. As if that weren't enough, she was cast as an impossible
houseguest, a "thing that wouldn't leave" (a la the Saturday Night Live
sketch). They could hardly do worse the next time out.

Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)

> From: Christopher E. Barat:
> I couldn't agree more. The Daisy of "Mouseworks" took one big step backward
> to the more annoying and demanding Daisy of some of the Barks and non-Barks
> comic-book stories. As if that weren't enough, she was cast as an impossible
> houseguest, a "thing that wouldn't leave" (a la the Saturday Night Live
> sketch). They could hardly do worse the next time out.

Let us pray she [Daisy] doesn't get any worse...

Now, back to BRAZIL:
I noticed that recently Morcego Verde (the Green Bat), Jose
Carioca's super-hero identity, has gone through a major costume
change. At lease in the Italian publication "Mega 2000" he
is wearing a much more "Batman:the Dark Knight" type costume
which is, of all things, RED! In Italy that doesn't really
matter, I guess, since he is called "Bat Carioca." So, out of
curiosity, can anyone tell me what color Jose's new costume is
as Morcego Verde, since I would think that an ALL-RED costume
wouldn't lend itself very well to a character whose name is
The GREEN Bat, AND it would conflict with Fethry's own Brazilian
superhero id as Morcego Vermelho (The RED Bat!). Anyone from
Brazil see Morcego Verde in his new costume lately? Is it Red
like in Italy, or is it more appropriately GREEN?

Thanks, Rich Bellacera

REBECCA

> Finally, in reply to the letter about the Scrooge x-mas spoiler. I don't
> think that story sounded very much like Uncle Scrooge at all. In all of
> the Barks comics I have, Scrooge is usually very reluctant to do
> anything that won't make a profit, and when he does he makes sure that
> EVERYBODY notices. A quote from 'Letter to Santa': "What's the use of
> having eleven octillion dollars if I don't make a big noise about it?".
> In both Barks' and Rosa's stories when Scrooge is generous he not only
> notices, but he's usually embarrassed about it, and tries to cover it
> up.
I think you're right, but it's one of those sugarsweet xmas stories that
are
done sometimes... why it had to be redone I don't now...

> By the way, I know you already mentioned 'Letter to Santa', but as
> far as I know it's the only Barks story with Santa Claus actually in it.
There's one more, one of the firestone giveways have the ducks come to
the North Pole, where santa lives in american thinking, and they help
repairing/trying toys.
But I don't think they believe in him, because they draw them...
Don did make a sante in the hearts of yukon story, but it was a
halucination (Indicated by the fact that Goldie turned into a reindeer...!
:-))

Kriton (My friend:-)
> Deep down inside, Scrooge is a softie, but he tries to maintain a
> cold-blooded buisinessman exterior, to the extent that this is what he
> believes himself to be. Scrooge would definitely not be out of character,
> doing the things you described, especially as, in most cases, nobody
> was looking. The only thing out of character, of course, would be paying
> the doctor more than his actual fee. Scrooge does not go to the doctor
> unless forced,
No, he goes to the free doctor... and the doctor thinks he's crazy thinking
he's rich (Ducktales episode, one of the later ones...)

> and then only pays the doctor's fee protesting that it
> is too high. There's even a Barks story, where Scrooge waits outside a
> doctor's office, waiting for someone having the same symptoms as he does,
> so that he doesn't have to consult the doctor himself!
really? How funny... I haven't read that one, or it's a gag-page that i
forgot about...

A new greek (sorry, you're name is iso and some unreadable letters...)

> The first one can be answered by anyone : In my opinion , Alexander the
> Great terminated his march in the river Ydaspis
> ( a branch of river Indus ) because his men protested that they were too
> tired to move on to a new , unexplored world.
> Alexander was overambitious but reasonable , and he agreed .So , did
> Don "alter" the facts ( and I know he never does)
> or did he find a source proving that Alexander's men were frightened of
> something not in Ydaspis but in Sarasvati ???
Don, if I know him well, doesn't alter facts. I showed the Croesus story to
my ancient-greek-history teacher once, and she said that some of the things
she hadn't seen... but they are just other sources... and one unproven
source IMO, can be as good as another unproven source...
In your example, there must be some sources not alike... like with the
actual Croesus myth were herodot (father of history-telling, they call
him), tells of some teories, he doesn't pick only one... that's the way
they should do actually, list the sources and let people pick the one they
believe in...

> Am I right or is it something different ?I suppose these questions have
> been posed before , but I couldn't find the answers
> anywhere .
That's perfectly okay. I haven't heard answers to that last question before
so I'm looking forward to the answer. If there are answers, someone might
tell you the number of the digest, and you can download it (as described in
the welcoming message...)

AC:
I just got the new danish yearbook 1950. It reprints all the 12 AA&Co.s
that came out in 1950, many are by Barks, so I'll go now. ready to read a
fine looking new book...

AC

From: =so-8859-7?Q
>>>Subject: Questions to Don Rosa
The first one can be answered by anyone : In my opinion , Alexander the
Great terminated his march in the river Ydaspis
( a branch of river Indus ) because his men protested that they were too
tired to move on to a new , unexplored world.
Alexander was overambitious but reasonable , and he agreed .So , did
Don "alter" the facts ( and I know he never does)
or did he find a source proving that Alexander's men were frightened of
something not in Ydaspis but in Sarasvati ???

You give the answer to your own question in the first 3 words of it: "In my
opinion". Yes, I have answered similar questions to this, even if not this
specific one. When I started doing research of history, checking more then
a single volume on any subject, I immediately realized that ancient history
is the OPINION of the historian writing the text you are reading. When I
was researching, for example, the Library of Alexandria or the Temple of
Artemis, I found that no two historians agreed on the origin or fate or
dates of either one. And that I had a wide range of writings, all by
respected historians, from which to select the facts that best suited my
story needs. And I would not have to "alter" a single fact since nobody can
prove what those facts are.
Your example is the easiest to deal with! Whatever book you read (I *hope*
you didn't really mean this was simply *your* opinion) apparently said they
were "tired". Well, okay, but I hardly think Al would have let his men turn
back simply because they said "gosh, we're just bushed", but okay, there's
some history book that says they were "tired". That historian (I assume...
I hope!) got his info from translating some ancient text in which it may
have stated that the men were "discouraged" or "had enough" (in ancient
lingo) or some other ancient set of words that are open to numerous
interpretations. Another historian read those same words and translated
"discouraged" to mean they were fearful or trepidatious... and that's the h
istorian I decided to believe. And I actually find it far more likely that
fear of the unknown regions to the east would have been a reason for
halting the advance than could be physical exhaustion. I mean, they had
already come a loooong way! Actually, with your own phrase of "they were
too tired to move on to a new , unexplored world.", one could take a clue
from the fact that they were only too tired when it came time to move into
"new, unexplored" territory to again mean "they were scared".
And yet any historian will offer his opinions as *hard fact* and not
subject to further interpretation... otherwise who would accept him and buy
his book or hire him to be department head?
So, you are right, I have NEVER changed a historical fact for my purposes.
I simply choose which facts I wish to use. Because, after all, a "fact",
according to the dictionary, is something that is *supposed* to be true.
But maybe not. And thatsa' fact.

>>>The second question is more general , and I'd like Don to answer it
himself : Why , in all your "tresure-hunting" stories ( I can't
think of an exception) do you never let $crooge keep the treasures he
finds???I have two theories :
1)$crooge is already rich beyond legend , and there is no reason to make
him any richer .It's the adventure that matters.
2)Most of these treasures should rightfully go to the natives that
inherit the ancient legacy ( as it often happens) and
it would be unfair for $crooge to "steal" them.

I use that second idea *only* as a way to achieve the first one, which is
my true attitude on the matter. Well, as a matter of fact (that word
again?), I just answered this question in an email-interview with the
editor of the Greek KOMIX, so I still have it in the "out" file. Here it
is, in part:
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You might notice that never in my stories does $crooge ever get to keep the
treasure he is seeking. I think it has long ago become trite to tell
another story about $crooge getting richer. Who cares? He's already as rich
as possible! But it's much more interesting to see how and why he *loses*
his goals -- sometimes due to his own faults
or due to powers beyond his control. This is a lesson to be learned from
the greatest treasure-hunt movie of all time, "Treasure of the Sierra
Madre". There would be nothing to learn from that story if the gold
prospectors had *kept* all their gold. The story really tells us of the
folly of greed and the importance of the little things in life. This is
what I try to do with my $crooge adventures.

Anyone who would like to know the state of affairs re: the license
negotiations between Diamond and Disney may visit the Gladstone web site
for the latest info. Though I haven't updated it in nearly three months,
there's been no material reason to, believe me.

Gary

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"I took the liberty of updating your resume. I'm guessing you'll need it
soon" - the world's smartest garbage man
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Gladstone *still* on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone

>By the way, I forgot to ask the previous questioner who in his message
>identified himself only as "?iso-8859-7?Q" [...]

In my e-mail browser I saw a name starting with "=D0=E5[...]" (I forgot t=
he rest=20
of the name). However, this didn't seem to be a real name neither. I gues=
s=20
this person entered his/her name in Greek letters, which are non-readable=
if=20
you don't have a Greek font installed on your computer.

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