From: "Arensbergen, J."
>The Life and Times of Uncle $crooge are one of the best Duck stories in
history. That is a fact.
Well, here's a big, wet kiss! *smack*
>Why isn't there a big binder of al the all the 12 parts?
There has been in most all countries except Germany and the Netherlands
(where I think your address indicates you are located). Why hasn't there
been? That you need to ask the German or Dutch editors.
>>>There are some much more things that can be published in another way.
Like
they should also make a comic that tells the story of Donald when he was
young. (And I don't mean Baby Donald from Disney baby)
Of course Scrooge has a much more interesting history as Donald.
That's why I haven't tried that, even though lotsa people have asked.
Donald's early life should be the exact opposite of $crooge's -- it should
be simply average and the childhood of an everyman. To suggest he had an
exciting youth would raise the question of why is he such an "ordinary guy"
rather than an extraordinary guy like $crooge.
>>>When you read the story (H93488) Part 12 of the life and times of
Scrooge
you see Donald and HDL watching Know your city on TV. In a certain window
(page 3 window 1) you see the part where U$ fires his whole crew incl. the
father and mother of Donald. You see little Donald running away from the
money bin.
Is there a story about it?
Uh... sure there is. The last part of Chapter 11 !
>>>The story Life and Times of Uncle scrooge part 12 has an impressing last
window. You see US sitting in/under his money and his nephew Donald says
that he haven't got any memories to this world. But.... See for yourself
It's a beautiful picture. Don Rosa should make an oil painting of it or a
lithograph.
I can't do that for two reasons.
1) Disney does not allow me to do that. The idea of such a lithograph must
come from some publisher with a license to do such a thing.
2) I don't know how to paint! (And I'm not interested in learning how when
I would rather do full stories rather than single-scene oil paintings.)
Author
Topic: 199909
(149 messages)
Don Rosa
Digest #153
Message 16 -
1999-09-06 at 16:19:45
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Disney comics Digest V99 #153
Message 17 -
1999-09-06 at 17:33:03
i forgot this in my other post. a partial story of Donald's "life and
times" is told in This Is Your Life Donald Duck (TIYLDDOS1109). The 32
page story, with art by Tony Strobl was first published in 1960, and I
believe was based on a cartoon that was shown on the Disney TV show.
Parts are funny as we see Donald as a duckling, as a youngster with
Mickey and Goofy, as a teenager with Gladstone and Daisy, as an adult
meeting Gyro Gearloose in a retelling of the WDC&S 141 ten pager, and how
he gained his contract to work for Walt Disney. Looking over the story
again, this is a light weight history from long before there was any
continuity in Disney Comics, but is still ammusing, especially Donald as
a duckling having temper tantrums banging his head on things. (When he
smashes the base of a statue Grandma tells a policeman that "it's hurt
the statue more than it has him!" If you havent read it, it certainly
is worth checking out.
Rodney Bowcock
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times" is told in This Is Your Life Donald Duck (TIYLDDOS1109). The 32
page story, with art by Tony Strobl was first published in 1960, and I
believe was based on a cartoon that was shown on the Disney TV show.
Parts are funny as we see Donald as a duckling, as a youngster with
Mickey and Goofy, as a teenager with Gladstone and Daisy, as an adult
meeting Gyro Gearloose in a retelling of the WDC&S 141 ten pager, and how
he gained his contract to work for Walt Disney. Looking over the story
again, this is a light weight history from long before there was any
continuity in Disney Comics, but is still ammusing, especially Donald as
a duckling having temper tantrums banging his head on things. (When he
smashes the base of a statue Grandma tells a policeman that "it's hurt
the statue more than it has him!" If you havent read it, it certainly
is worth checking out.
Rodney Bowcock
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Michael Naiman
Story question
Message 18 -
1999-09-06 at 19:47:16
For our Italian experts:
I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
who the artist might have been.
The story runs like this:
Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a Welch
prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170. Donald hopes to be his heir and to
have the right to the title of Emperor of the United States (sound
familiar?). Scrooge has the same thoughts...but, they have both overlooked
some details, spotted by the nephews, which give away the fact that the
Maddock story is a hoax.
Any help??
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #154
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I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
who the artist might have been.
The story runs like this:
Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a Welch
prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170. Donald hopes to be his heir and to
have the right to the title of Emperor of the United States (sound
familiar?). Scrooge has the same thoughts...but, they have both overlooked
some details, spotted by the nephews, which give away the fact that the
Maddock story is a hoax.
Any help??
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #154
******************************************
Don Rosa
Digest #154
Message 19 -
1999-09-06 at 21:30:21
From: Michael Naiman
>>>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to
know
who the artist might have been.
Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a Welch
prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170.
...but, they have both overlooked
some details, spotted by the nephews, which give away the fact that the
Maddock story is a hoax.
Interesting! Some Italians did their research on American (obscure and
dubious) history. There really *was* a Prince Maddock of Wales who is
supposed to have set up a colony in America in 1170... in fact, on an
island in the Ohio River just a few miles from where I type this (in
Louisville), or perhaps somewhere else on the Ohio or Mississippi Rivers.
It's the sort of historical "fact" for which there are certain solid and
fascinating bits of evidence, but which can never be proven or disproven by
now.
I mentioned him in "Lost Charts of Columbus".
>>>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to
know
who the artist might have been.
Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a Welch
prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170.
...but, they have both overlooked
some details, spotted by the nephews, which give away the fact that the
Maddock story is a hoax.
Interesting! Some Italians did their research on American (obscure and
dubious) history. There really *was* a Prince Maddock of Wales who is
supposed to have set up a colony in America in 1170... in fact, on an
island in the Ohio River just a few miles from where I type this (in
Louisville), or perhaps somewhere else on the Ohio or Mississippi Rivers.
It's the sort of historical "fact" for which there are certain solid and
fascinating bits of evidence, but which can never be proven or disproven by
now.
I mentioned him in "Lost Charts of Columbus".
Frank Stajano
story question
Message 20 -
1999-09-06 at 21:48:10
Hi Michael!
At 1999-09-06 18:47 +0200, Michael Naiman wrote:
>For our Italian experts:
>
>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
>who the artist might have been.
But but... could this not be the story I already identified for you several
years ago by frantically looking through tons of comics? ;-)
I think the story you mention is
I TL 601-A (04-06-1967)
Paperino e l'imperatore degli Stati Uniti
/Martina/PLdV/
38/Zio Paperone spera di diventarlo, testamento di Madoc/Paperino; QQQ, Zio
Paperone
[ristampe: CWD 41, GCD 117]
whose artwork is by Pier Lorenzo De Vita, and once I'm back home I'll check
it to see if it's actually the same as that old one, which also was by the
same authors...
NB: in the message from way back I said that that story sounded like it had
been written by Guido Martina, but Fossati's index attributed it to Renata
Rizzo, his wife. It was later confirmed (I think by Luca) that in
practically all these cases the attribution to the wife was some sort of
tax scam ;-) and that it was Martina himself who actually wrote the script.
Stay tuned for the confirmation message...
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
At 1999-09-06 18:47 +0200, Michael Naiman wrote:
>For our Italian experts:
>
>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
>who the artist might have been.
But but... could this not be the story I already identified for you several
years ago by frantically looking through tons of comics? ;-)
I think the story you mention is
I TL 601-A (04-06-1967)
Paperino e l'imperatore degli Stati Uniti
/Martina/PLdV/
38/Zio Paperone spera di diventarlo, testamento di Madoc/Paperino; QQQ, Zio
Paperone
[ristampe: CWD 41, GCD 117]
whose artwork is by Pier Lorenzo De Vita, and once I'm back home I'll check
it to see if it's actually the same as that old one, which also was by the
same authors...
NB: in the message from way back I said that that story sounded like it had
been written by Guido Martina, but Fossati's index attributed it to Renata
Rizzo, his wife. It was later confirmed (I think by Luca) that in
practically all these cases the attribution to the wife was some sort of
tax scam ;-) and that it was Martina himself who actually wrote the script.
Stay tuned for the confirmation message...
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Francois Willot
story question
Message 21 -
1999-09-06 at 22:23:22
Michael Naiman a =E9crit:
> I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to kn=
ow
> who the artist might have been.
>=20
> The story runs like this:
>=20
> Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a
> Welch prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170.
This reminds me of "Paperino e l'imperatore degli Stati Uniti",
published in Topolino 601, drawn by Pier Lorenzo De Vita.
I haven't any reprint of this story here, unfortunately, but I'd say
it's this one.
Francois
> I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to kn=
ow
> who the artist might have been.
>=20
> The story runs like this:
>=20
> Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a
> Welch prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170.
This reminds me of "Paperino e l'imperatore degli Stati Uniti",
published in Topolino 601, drawn by Pier Lorenzo De Vita.
I haven't any reprint of this story here, unfortunately, but I'd say
it's this one.
Francois
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Disney comics Digest V99 #154
Message 22 -
1999-09-06 at 22:24:01
Cash Flow has been reprinted in the US in 3 forms that I know of. One is
in a 1990 Gladstone Album called "A Don Rosa Retrospective" which also
reprints Last Sled to Dawson, and a couple 10 pagers that are very
funny, in a volume of Uncle Scrooge Adventures in Color by Don Rosa,
which reprinted in 4 books all of Rosa's Disney work from the first two
years he did Disney comics. And finally as part of Gladstone's Uncle
Scrooge and Donald Duck in Color series (volume four) which is my
personal favorite because it contains so much good material for such a
small price. (the book retailed for 9.95, and also included US15. US48,
and WDC&S265)
The story was also included in the various hardcover printings of the
late 80's Gladstone albums, but those seem impossible to find. I'd say
that the second printing I mentioned is the easiest to find. You can
probably find it for cover price at your local shop.
Also to the person who wanted Land of the Totem Poles it is available in
DD 279, and in a volume of Donald Duck Adventures in Color. It should be
noted that the dialog of the indians in the story has been altered to
make it more PC, so it is slightly different from the original printing.
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in a 1990 Gladstone Album called "A Don Rosa Retrospective" which also
reprints Last Sled to Dawson, and a couple 10 pagers that are very
funny, in a volume of Uncle Scrooge Adventures in Color by Don Rosa,
which reprinted in 4 books all of Rosa's Disney work from the first two
years he did Disney comics. And finally as part of Gladstone's Uncle
Scrooge and Donald Duck in Color series (volume four) which is my
personal favorite because it contains so much good material for such a
small price. (the book retailed for 9.95, and also included US15. US48,
and WDC&S265)
The story was also included in the various hardcover printings of the
late 80's Gladstone albums, but those seem impossible to find. I'd say
that the second printing I mentioned is the easiest to find. You can
probably find it for cover price at your local shop.
Also to the person who wanted Land of the Totem Poles it is available in
DD 279, and in a volume of Donald Duck Adventures in Color. It should be
noted that the dialog of the indians in the story has been altered to
make it more PC, so it is slightly different from the original printing.
Rodney Bowcock
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Ole Reichstein Nielsen
The Emperor of the United States
Message 23 -
1999-09-06 at 23:27:38
MICHAEL:
>For our Italian experts:
>
>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
>who the artist might have been.
>
>The story runs like this:
>[...]
>Any help??
I'll quote Italian expert Frank Stajano from when that story (and possibly
even that same page) was last around on this list in February 1992:
"This is page 36 of a 38-page story called "Paperino e l'imperatore
degli Stati Uniti", written by Renata Rizzo and drawn by Pier Lorenzo
De Vita, first published in Topolino libretto n. 601, 11th June 1967."
The next issue of the wonderful Italian book "I Maestri Disney" BTW is
dedicated to "Pier Lawrence De Life" - as my translator calls him. :-)
ole
_U
>For our Italian experts:
>
>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
>who the artist might have been.
>
>The story runs like this:
>[...]
>Any help??
I'll quote Italian expert Frank Stajano from when that story (and possibly
even that same page) was last around on this list in February 1992:
"This is page 36 of a 38-page story called "Paperino e l'imperatore
degli Stati Uniti", written by Renata Rizzo and drawn by Pier Lorenzo
De Vita, first published in Topolino libretto n. 601, 11th June 1967."
The next issue of the wonderful Italian book "I Maestri Disney" BTW is
dedicated to "Pier Lawrence De Life" - as my translator calls him. :-)
ole
_U
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Emperor errata
Message 24 -
1999-09-06 at 23:30:40
I just wrote:
>I'll quote Italian expert Frank Stajano from when that story (and possibly
>even that same page) was last around on this list in February 1992:
Er, make that February *1996*. The list only started in August 1992.
oLe
_U
>I'll quote Italian expert Frank Stajano from when that story (and possibly
>even that same page) was last around on this list in February 1992:
Er, make that February *1996*. The list only started in August 1992.
oLe
_U
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Emperor of the United States
Message 25 -
1999-09-06 at 23:44:48
MICHAEL:
I just noticed that your resume of the story matched, almost word-to-word,
the one Frank gave in his mail (dcomics Digest V96 Issue #34), but you
obviously didn't read it or you'd have known who the artist was.
??
As a final reference, this page Frank wrote about it is still available:
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/references/010-010/
oLe
_U
I just noticed that your resume of the story matched, almost word-to-word,
the one Frank gave in his mail (dcomics Digest V96 Issue #34), but you
obviously didn't read it or you'd have known who the artist was.
??
As a final reference, this page Frank wrote about it is still available:
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/references/010-010/
oLe
_U
Marco Barlotti
Emperor of the United States
Message 26 -
1999-09-07 at 00:24:34
At 19.59 06/09/1999 +0200, Michael Naiman wrote:
>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
>who the artist might have been.
>
> Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a Welch
>prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170. [...]
This is a story by Guido Martina, drawn by Pier Lorenzo De Vita for issue #
601 of "Topolino" (June 4th, 1967):
I TL 601-A (04-06-1967)
Paperino e l'imperatore degli Stati Uniti
/Martina/PLdV/
38/Zio Paperone spera di diventarlo, testamento di Madoc/Paperino; QQQ, Zio
Paperone
[ristampe: CWD 41, GCD 117]
I like to answer this question, because I remember this story as being
brought up by David Gerstein soon after I joined this mailing list, quite a
few years ago... sigh...
Marco
>I have an original art page from an Italian story and would like to know
>who the artist might have been.
>
> Donald learns from a TV program that America was discovered by a Welch
>prince called Maddock McDuck, in 1170. [...]
This is a story by Guido Martina, drawn by Pier Lorenzo De Vita for issue #
601 of "Topolino" (June 4th, 1967):
I TL 601-A (04-06-1967)
Paperino e l'imperatore degli Stati Uniti
/Martina/PLdV/
38/Zio Paperone spera di diventarlo, testamento di Madoc/Paperino; QQQ, Zio
Paperone
[ristampe: CWD 41, GCD 117]
I like to answer this question, because I remember this story as being
brought up by David Gerstein soon after I joined this mailing list, quite a
few years ago... sigh...
Marco
Frank Stajano
story question
Message 27 -
1999-09-07 at 00:31:35
At 1999-09-06 19:48 +0100, Frank Stajano wrote:
>Stay tuned for the confirmation message...
Yes, I just re-read the story and it's exactly the same one that you (or
David?) wanted to have identified a couple of years ago, the one where near
the end Scrooge and Donald go in a cave and find a piece of parchment which
they believe to be Madoc's testament (but instead is a message from the
nephews, who know better).
Maybe some American fellow came to an Italian convention a few years back
and bought several pages of original artwork from this story, all together
as a package deal, and now they're resurfacing one by one in Southern
California... ;-)
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>Stay tuned for the confirmation message...
Yes, I just re-read the story and it's exactly the same one that you (or
David?) wanted to have identified a couple of years ago, the one where near
the end Scrooge and Donald go in a cave and find a piece of parchment which
they believe to be Madoc's testament (but instead is a message from the
nephews, who know better).
Maybe some American fellow came to an Italian convention a few years back
and bought several pages of original artwork from this story, all together
as a package deal, and now they're resurfacing one by one in Southern
California... ;-)
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Steven L. Stephenson
Four Color 263
Message 28 -
1999-09-07 at 04:54:02
Can someone tell me which of the Gladstone Carl Barks Library of Donald
Duck Adventures in Color Volumes contains "Donald Duck Four Color #263" if
indeed #263 was reprinted in this series? I am specifically looking for a
reprint of the story entitled "Donald Duck in Lands of Totempoles" in this
or any other publication in which it may have appeared.
Steve Stephenson <(Email removed)>
Duck Adventures in Color Volumes contains "Donald Duck Four Color #263" if
indeed #263 was reprinted in this series? I am specifically looking for a
reprint of the story entitled "Donald Duck in Lands of Totempoles" in this
or any other publication in which it may have appeared.
Steve Stephenson <(Email removed)>
Fluks, H.W.
Four Color 263
Message 29 -
1999-09-07 at 11:22:10
> Can someone tell me which of the Gladstone Carl Barks Library
> of Donald
> Duck Adventures in Color Volumes contains "Donald Duck Four
> Color #263" if
> indeed #263 was reprinted in this series?
If someone writes on this list that story X was reprinted in Y, there's very
little chance s/he is wrong. Or s/he would be bombed with correction
messages.
But you can also find out for yourself, if you do as follows:
Go to http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks (our Disney comics
database page);
Type "totem poles" in the "title" field and press the "search" button;
Then you get a page showing the cover (1 page) and the story (24 pages).
Click on the link of the story (W OS 263-02);
Then you get a page showing all known information about the "Totem Poles"
story. Including the following:
<<
Disney comics story W OS 263-02
Donald Duck: Land of the Totem Poles
Publications
USA:Western
BCS 1e*, OS 263
USA:Gladstone/Disney
LICD 13, DD 278, BL 2-087
>>
When you click on "LICD 13", you'll find that this is "The Carl Barks
Library of Donald Duck Adventures in Color" issue #13, the one you were
looking for.
(There are other ways to get the same data. I just wanted to show the list
how one can get this kind of information from the web.)
--Harry.
> of Donald
> Duck Adventures in Color Volumes contains "Donald Duck Four
> Color #263" if
> indeed #263 was reprinted in this series?
If someone writes on this list that story X was reprinted in Y, there's very
little chance s/he is wrong. Or s/he would be bombed with correction
messages.
But you can also find out for yourself, if you do as follows:
Go to http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks (our Disney comics
database page);
Type "totem poles" in the "title" field and press the "search" button;
Then you get a page showing the cover (1 page) and the story (24 pages).
Click on the link of the story (W OS 263-02);
Then you get a page showing all known information about the "Totem Poles"
story. Including the following:
<<
Disney comics story W OS 263-02
Donald Duck: Land of the Totem Poles
Publications
USA:Western
BCS 1e*, OS 263
USA:Gladstone/Disney
LICD 13, DD 278, BL 2-087
>>
When you click on "LICD 13", you'll find that this is "The Carl Barks
Library of Donald Duck Adventures in Color" issue #13, the one you were
looking for.
(There are other ways to get the same data. I just wanted to show the list
how one can get this kind of information from the web.)
--Harry.
Halsten =?iso-8859-1?Q?Aastebøl?=
Four Color 263
Message 30 -
1999-09-07 at 12:12:11
At 09:22 07.09.99 +0100, Fluks, H.W. wrote about "Land of the Totem Poles":
>When you click on "LICD 13", you'll find that this is "The Carl Barks
>Library of Donald Duck Adventures in Color" issue #13, the one you were
>looking for.
Let me just say that this is a great story (of course). Since it is also
coupled with another great story, namely "Trail of the unicorn", both in
Four Color 263 and in Library in Color # 13, this is really and truly a
strong comic album!
Halsten
>When you click on "LICD 13", you'll find that this is "The Carl Barks
>Library of Donald Duck Adventures in Color" issue #13, the one you were
>looking for.
Let me just say that this is a great story (of course). Since it is also
coupled with another great story, namely "Trail of the unicorn", both in
Four Color 263 and in Library in Color # 13, this is really and truly a
strong comic album!
Halsten