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MARCO, my friend:

> Mmmmhhh.... I went to Mexico last August (just to find out about Zapotec
> culture... those who know the Italian Mickey time-machine series can
> understand me!)
The german ones too. I heard of Zapotek firstly by reading a german
Pocketbook with those two professors that owns that time-mashine Mickey and
Goofy use.
I didn't learn about the real zapotec-culture before long after that... The
other one is marlin or Marvin in german... in danish they are called, what
would be translated to Mr. Weird (with a non-heard h in it), and Mr. Wise
(also non-heard h) Wheird and Whise I guess...

and I stopped at the airport in Madrid. Of course I looked
> after Spanish Disney comics.
> I found:
> - an album with a Spanish version of "Christmas in Shacktown". Well, that
> doesn't count, who knows when it was printed?
It sure counts to me, I love that story...

> - a "MINNIE" comic book. Giving away a "trousse" or something anyway for
> girlies...
Awk! Oh no...

> so that's why I didn't feel like buying it. But THIS seemed a
> REGULAR Spanish Disney comic!
hmm... I understand you. I felt somewhat embarrassed when I bought our
newly released Princesses, with a box of "jewelry", the one I payed for it
(cassier?) was a boy...

> I'll tell you this. When I teach Mathematics I often use names like
"Pippo,
> Pluto, Paperino" (Goofy, Pluto, Donald) for unknowns (instead of the more
> usual x, y, z).
How funny... what does the head of school say to that?? A fact is that many
teachers and professors do read disney comics... some of us might have
heard that Barks's story about the W WDC 126-02 CB A Financial Fable has
been used at highschools to teach the most important rool of econmy...

> and a very
> famous political cartoonist (Forattini) ten years ago used many Disney
> characters to portrait government people (not Fethry though)...
Who was Scrooge then? someone we've heard of??

Schridde
> If you don't succeed, (very) maybe I could ask my japanese penpal.
I had a such once too, but I never talked to her since the connection broke
(guess it was a mail-pal then)

Nisse
> Marco Barlotti:
> > (If you want my very humble and perfidious opinion, I think Disney
Italy is
> > waiting for Uncle Carl to pass away and THEN they'll hit the press with
a
> > grand smash, no matter the quality of the story...
> I certainly hope that they are waiting for a 100 years birthday
celebration super speciel > mega issue !!!
Me too! But that's in march 2001 remember, not now...

> > but then after all I'm
> > the evil mailing-list memeber, don't you remember? ;-) ;-) ;-)
)
> Hear Hear !! ;-)
What's this about? Is marco an evil person?? ;-)

> I know that my memory betrays me often recently, but not this time, as
can
> be attested to by the remarks in Digest #168 by Marco and John Lustig
> himself. The text you quote above is an earlier posting than the one I
> remembered and referred to. I remembered very vividly reading a message
in
> early 1999, I believe, about a publisher having bought "Somewhere in
> Nowhere". Now, we at last learn that this publisher is Disney Italia.
Let's
> rejoice then: "Somewhere in Nowhere" isn't nowhere anymore; it's
somewhere
> in Italy! :-) What's left is the "somewhen"! :-)
Hmmm. It's somewhere here too, if I might say so. I wont say where I got
the copies though

> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:37:47 +0200
> From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <(Email removed)>
> To: <(Email removed)>
> Subject: Somewhere in Nowhere
>
> MARCO BARLOTTI, 26-09-1999:
> I've once seen some pieces of (xeroxed) clean art and it looked good.
> The version that has been seen by some fans, has a fax quality. The
> dialogue of that fax version is very difficult to read and the dots
> make the art look muddy,
Hi Daniel ;-)

> but that's certainly not the case with the art I've seen!
I'm not the most lucky one then...

> I liked the story. It has the atmosphere of "Frozen gold" and "North
> of the Yukon". Some people I spoke thought it should be shortened,
> but I hope they'll publish the story as it is. (28 pages)
I hope too. No more censorings of barks-masterpieces or i'm gonna do
something bad to someone...

> Or maybe you say what others fear? I hope it's not the reason for the
> story being unpublished, because then the fun of waiting for it and
> buying it would severely be destroyed for me!
I feel the same way.

GARY
SOEREN> >Perhaps we(I) should add that a name like "Andold" is grapped from
"And"
> >which means "duck" in Danish. Luckily many names begin with "And..." in
> >Danish, so as an example we have "Anders" (Donald) and "Andersine"
> >(Donaldine=3DDaisy).
Donaldine... hehe... sounds fun... Andersine is an old danish name... they
called the girl that if she was supposed to have been a boy... I'm glad i
wasn't a girl, it sounds rather old fashioned when we aren't talking about
that special (and sometimes hot-tempered too - I am talking bout Daisy...
she's furious at times) Duck

> As the guy who actually came up with the name "Andold Wildduck", I'd just
> like to point out that "Andold" was not based on the Danish definition of
> "And", but was simply an anagram of "Donald". Same for "Aydis" (from
> "Daisy").
Okay. I didn't think it came from out and though... I just remebered that
he was called that...
They didn't make an anagram here though... he isn't called Sredna,
allthough that would sound fun... Daisy was called Andelil (Duck little)

> From: "Georgios Balanikas" <(Email removed)>

> >Maybe I'm in a minority but I like Pat Block's artwork. Sometimes his
> >lines look a little too thick, and sometimes lack some of the detail
that
> >other artists put in their stuff, but overall it is pretty nice. But to
> >each his own I guess............

> I also belong to this minority.
> I like Pat Block's art ,it is charming and has a "barksian" taste but
with a
> personal style.
> I also like John Lustig's writing.
I like Pat Block's art too, though I haven't seen than Amazon Queen Rodney
mentioned.
Lustig's writing I can't say anything about... the texts I saw wheren't
that well, but that was because I couldn't read them...

> As the guy who actually came up with the name "Andold Wildduck", I'd just
> like to point out that "Andold" was not based on the Danish definition of
> "And", but was simply an anagram of "Donald". Same for "Aydis" (from
> "Daisy").
This is what I'd assumed when I read that story (it was "Aydis" that
tipped me off). It was interesting to hear the Danish interpretation,
though.

> Maybe I'm in a minority but I like Pat Block's artwork.
I like it too! It reminds me of Vicar's work, a little. I especially
like the Valentine story that he did with his wife, where HDL tired to
set Don & Daisy up on a cruise w/ secret identies. ("Three Little
Cupids" was it?)
~Rebecca Ridout

I'm getting awfully tired of keeping other people's secrets--especially when
the secrets involve me. Under the circumstances, I think it would be silly
not to confirm what other people are reporting as facts. Yes, Disney Italy
did purchase "Somewhere in Nowhere." I can't comment on anything else,
because I really don't know anything else about Disney Italy's plans or
motives. I've wondered about these things myself, but there may be any number
of reasons why Disney Italy hasn't published the story yet. I hope to find
out soon. Despite this, I don't expect to be the person who announces when
S.I.N. will be printed. That really should come from Disney Italy.

However, I hope to have some other things to say about this story in the near
future. Don't hold your breath, though. So far, everything even
remotely-connected to this story has moved along with the blinding speed of a
sleep-deprived, mountain-climbing snail!

--John Lustig

Glad to hear that "Somewhere to Nowhere" has been accepted by a publisher.
That means the story is now wholly owned by Disney Enterprises, whether it
ever gets published or not. Of course it always was wholly owned by Disney
Enterprises - the only issue was compensation for production expenses - but
this, as we say around here, nails it in cement.

Let's say that all goes well and Gladstone starts publishing again pretty
soon. We would be interested in "Somewhere to Nowhere", certainly, since we
are always pleased to be able to present the work of John Lustig and Pat
Block, but there is some question about the participation of Carl Barks.
Now, I'm only conjuring from the information currently in my possession,
but based on that I anticipate some potential problems sorting out the
credit situation. Pat clearly did the art, no problem there, and Carl was
the source of a plot idea upon which John based a full script, but Carl's
actual input into the story while it was in production is a bit tricky to
pin down. We could just say something like "plot by Carl Barks, story by
John Lustig", but for readers who crave precise attribution there may be no
way to provide complete and satisfactory information.

I guess we'll just cross that bridge when we come to it.

I'm currently updating my pages about religion i Duckburg
and hope I'll finish the pages soon, but I need some help.
If I get an answer to the following questions I can finish my page
about witches (and a sorceress).

1) "The Unsafe Safe" (US 38-02):
What does the sign outside Magica's house say on page 8?
2) "For Old Dime's Sake" (US 43-01):
What does Magica say about Circe on page 4 (panel 6)?
3) "Bottled Battlers" (JW 10-02):
What does Magica say in panel 5, page 5
and in panel 2, page 10?
4) "A Matter of Some Gravity" (D 96001)
What does Magica say in panel1, page 3?
5) "A Little Something Special" (D 96325)
What does Magica buy in panel 3, page 6
and what does the shopkeeper say in panel 6?
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or rather, a knack to flying
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Re: comments in the last Digest (from Daniel E?)----

>I hope too. No more censorings of barks-masterpieces or i'm gonna do
>something bad to someone...

The SIN story is certainly no "masterpiece" and only loosely connected to
Carl via an idea for a story

On another front:

Does anyone have any idea when Pat Block's story about Donald and an
underwater kingdom will surface?
I saw this 2-3 years ago and it looked like some of Pat's best work.

Manolo Galdon, an artist of the Comicup Studio, very likely drew F JM
88219, "La machine =E0 gommer les erreurs" written by Didier le Bornec.
This story is not a Disney Babies story, but features the baby version
of "Lafouine" (Scuttle) in a flashback. Later in the story, we also see
Pete and "Lafouine" as teenagers (scans are at
www2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/div/at/SCUb.htm).=20
Didier le Bornec didn't make any Disney Babies story, but often
introduced new characters in his stories. He is the only author of the
French "F PL" stories, introducing "Junior", "Mina" and "Marie-Loup".

Francois