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Gene Kannenberg who runs the Comics Scholar's List passed this along to me
for the list:

My question about Tarzan was answered many times. Thanks:-)

STEVEN
> yes in the USA.
> Dark Horse put out a 2 issue series.
> Not sure if Disney Adventures did one or not...
I see. well, maybe I should go for that version, as i can read
american.

ARIE
> > I guess you other scandinavians haven't seen it either?
> Huh? Oh, wha? Scandinavians? Ups, sorry about that.
No, don't be sorry, that was actually meant the other way.
I didn't expect the scandinavians to answer, cause our weeklies
are almost the same, apart from titles and some stories that we
decide ourselves.

OLIVIER
> PS : there's a rumour about the change
> of the name of this mag which should
> be "Don and Carl Mag"
Isn't this crossing the line a bit? If the really did that it would
stop any other artists from those being in the mag... I'm a fan
of both, but I like to read other artists too...
already the prize in american currency of the mag is "Duckburg:
10 cents as usual" :-)

> PPPS : PM promised us to print *all* the Barks' Gladstone
> stories along approximatly 18 issues.
> That's such a long time they leave this idea.
Did they not keep that promise or what?
well already the list of the stories, in that Picsou-mag with the
Gladstone-pin-up was incomplete...

> Finally... if you want to join the PicMag "specialist"
> by email :
> picsoumagdhp at hfp.fr
What is that about?
and would one have to write something in the subject line?

OLE
> I suppose the Danish publisher decided that with all the half
> dozen other versions of the story targeted at various age groups
> it was kind of stupid to give away the only regular comic version
> with the weekly.
You're right there... but then they could have published it along-side
all the other books, as a one-shot.

> Not that I've seen the various merchandize for
> this movie, but it's as much a tradition as the christmas supple-
> ment issue.
And this tradition even one year caused that there were two extras in
december. one with Lion King and a reprint of another christmas parade.

> Which wasn't saved away btw, but had a coverless
> reprint of the 50es edition of the Barks one-shot "You Can't Guess".
coverless, yes... the first page used as a cover... pretty annoying for
us inducksers...

> The Tarzan story looks good, I can tell from the Dutch serialized
> edition.
I see. well, you know what I will want to see when we next meet:-)

JANNE
> Here in Finland the Tarzan story was published in three parts in the
middle of the Aku Ankka weekly. Well I liked it !!
Argh... this is starting to sound that we're the only ones left out...
and I suppose all you others have Tarzan-merchandise along side that
serial? 3 parts? did they make those annoying summary panels then??

ARCHONTIS

> In addition to the "Tarzan" adaptation, this
> extra-thick issue (thickest so far, they claim!)
Isn't that true?

> also features Almanacco Topolino re-prints by Carpi and Scarpa ("Il
> drago Kandelor", AT #181, 1972).
Sounds nice, as far as I can tell...

AC

I don't know if a single collection of sunday stories has been published.
but, I believe that Gladstone and Disney have published most, if not
all, of these stories in recent years, and they should be *fairly* easy
to find. (I say fairly bcz I'm having troubles finding certain MM issues
from Gladstone, but I might be looking in all the wrong places!)

~~~Rodney.

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Hi
We are very helpfull here:-) The fact that I got 5 replies out of 8 in
one of the newest digest, and more in the following to my question
about Tarzan tells that we help when we can.
In another case I helped myself though: Some weeks ago I told about
the danish publication of Kalevala ... I complained about the
reference: "Rosa used this music-example before" which they said,
but they didn't tell where... But that was just typical, maybe they
didn't bother find it? Or maybe it was in the origianl comments, but
they took it out??

So Louhi plays Wagner. and who else? the lorry-driver who
Gladstone meats in Don's jubilee-story for him, The sign of the
Triple Distle-fink.

BTW I hope this mail looks okay? No annoying line-shifts?

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk

A happy new year to all of you!

Since there was only one comment on the German edition
of Don Rosa?s Kalevala story on this list I thought I might
throw in my two cents:

First of all I want to say that I like the story very much.
I like the story as such, but it is a special pleasure to read
it with all the background information in mind which I
could collect from this mailing list.

The German publisher decided to produce the story in a
single issue (Micky Maus weekly 1/2000) in contrast to
Scandinavia where it came out in three consecutive issues.
And there were no advertisements within the story, which
we otherwise usually see. So we could read the complete
story in one go, which is a good thing. Furthermore the
background of the pages (the part which usually is plain
white) is coloured in red with yellow flashes of lightning.
One may like that or not, it sure added something special
to that special story.

(BTW in this issue of Micky Maus they started to credit the
translator of the stories as well (up to now only the author
and the artist were credited).)

And this story?s translator Peter Daibenzeiher did a very
good job: He employed the rune-o-metric style of the
Kalevala and was very sensible for the corresponding old-
fashioned language and the atmosphere thereby created.
Occasionally he dropped in some modern elements in that
ancient language, which was according to Don Rosa?s plans,
as I remember from one of his earlier postings. And, yes,
these parts of the dialog have been printed in a special font
as it was intended by Don. Additionally, all the Finnish
names have been used and were not transformed into funny
names.

Unfortunately, I feel that one major error occured in the
translation process. It concerns the Yukon-dialog which has
been discussed earlier on this list. From the German translation
you really get the impression that Vainy offers Scrooge
to take him back to (a heavenly version of) the Klondike
and to Goldie. In the following I will try to give a re-trans-
lation of that part, where Scrooge holds tight to the Sampo
while Vainy?s ship is going up into the sky:

V: Beyond the northern light lies your aim! But consider
carefully if you are really ready to leave all transient
things. Because existence ends here!

V: If this should be your will, I will give you a present,
for you have helped me, freed me from the chains and
created the Sampo.

V: The secret of your deepest dreams, even the well of
your strength, I see it and can feel it, that icy far off
place, grown stiff by frost, but for your joy, its image
often warms your chest.
S: The ... Yukon?

V: To that place I will abduct you, friend, which you have
become to me, eternal wealth awaits you, and a heart,
which already hopes since long, long awaits your coming
back. Now tell me, are you ready?

S: No.

I am afraid that this translation is quite contrary to Don?s
intention of what is going on. And I must admit that I was
more than puzzled when I first read this part of the story,
which would not have happened with Don?s original text.

If my feeling is right, maybe it is possible to correct this part
before the story is re-printed in the beautiful Don Rosa album
series which we have here in Germany.

And maybe we will be able to see the extra page of the Fin-
nish edition (or even the 6 extra pages of the coming Aku
Ankka reprint) in our album series as well. Meanwhile, can
somebody please tell us non-Finns how Scrooge gets back
his hat in the end of the story. This bit seems to be part of
that extra page in the Finnish book edition, and we will not be
able to see it in the near future.

But again I want to emphasise that the story as such as well
as this publication is very enjoyable. A brilliant opener for
the year 2000.

All the best
Sven

I want some pictures and information about Keno don Rosa
Thank you

Sander

At 22:10:20 30/12/1999 +0100, Vidar Svendsen wrote:
>
>I've just spent christmas in Israel (returned today), [...]
>
>I bought two comics published by Egmont at Ben Gurion airport

Rats! I've been scooped!
I was to Israel for New Year's Eve (and a few days after that), and I also
bought a Disney Comic featuring Donald Duck. I let alone the Winnie-Pooh
one...

Let's hope we have different issues! Mine is dated 2nd january 2000.
I'll make just two comments for now: there are very few comics in the
issue: two six-pagers, one three-pager and a Taliaferro gag. Totalling 16
pages out of 48, exactly 1/3. In the Italian "Topolino" there are about 160
pages of comics out of a total of 190...
And: it's a hard job for the indexers! While reversing the pages (because
the Israelians, like the arabs, read "backward"...) they ERASE the code! So
there remains only the tiny rectangular box in the splash-panel, but no
code in it!!!

So how shall we index these issues? Maybe I'll put on-line a scan of the
splash-panels, in case anyone is interested in recognizing the stories. Or
maybe David, at Egmont's, knows everything on the content of these issues?
;-)

Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics