For Norwegians:
I passed by the shop "Comix" the other day, at St. Hanshaugen
in Oslo. I thought I'd mention here that they have a reasonable
selection of Donald Duck & Co 1949-1954 for sale, in agreeable
conditions. Time to complete your collections.
Nils Lid Hjort
Author
Topic: 200001
(158 messages)
Nils Lid Hjort
Early Norwegian DD comics for sale
Message 76 -
2000-01-21 at 21:52:12
Nils Lid Hjort
Footnotology of footnotology
Message 77 -
2000-01-21 at 22:59:59
I've been quickly browsing through maillist digests from the
last couple of weeks, and I'd like to provide some footnotes
to the topic of _footnotes_, which were used (sparingly) in the
Norwegian and Danish editions #48-#50 of Don Rosa's Kalevala story.
Why footnotes, in the first place? The Kalevala story is
interesting and unusual on several accounts, not only since
it is a long 33 page story by a gifted storyteller and artist.
It is rather more complicated than most Disney stories, and
involves a peculiar and for most people unknown literary epic
universe, that of the Finnish-Karelian Kalevala. Thus the
Egmont publishers felt the need to (or rather were prodded,
by me, into feeling the need to) help their readers a little bit,
with an introduction page and a summary "Who's who and what
in Kalevala" page.
I helped construct these pages, in cooperation with the Norwegian
editors; the same pages appear also in the Danish and Swedish
parallel editions. (I was also the "main translator" handling
the translations of Rosa's runo rhythms into proper Kalevala-meter
and so on, but that's a footnote, in this connection.) And I
managed to get hold of a kind colleague's copy of "Hiawatha",
Classics Illustrated 1949, the cover of which, to Hiawatha's and
Longfellow's surpise, has been photocopied in something
like 180.000 + 190.000 + 210.000 copies all over Scandinavia...
Well then: *in addition* to these hopefully informative and helpful
pages, we felt that some inobtrusively placed *footnotes*, at strategic
points, could further help the reader on his/her way towards
enlightenment. The Swedish translator (and honoured list member)
Stefan Di{\"o}s disagrees, and avoided them (which is fine with me,
of course!). But in the Norwegian and by parallelism also the Danish
editions one finds
"Mustasaari means `Black Island'" ,
"The music Vainamoinen plays here is from `Finlandia'
by Sibelius, a work first performed exactly 100 years ago" ,
and so on. This is perhaps the only Disney story where such
footnotes have been actively used by the publisher. -- It would
have been better, imVho, if these bits of information could have
been squeezed into a single introduction section (one or two pages),
but here space was constrained, and I (with politely nodding editors)
was brimming with extra information I excitedly wished to stuff
down the readers' throats. So there.
A footnote on the page 50/#49 footnote, which was misinterpreted
by someone here: I wrote something like
"The music played by old Pohjola-lady Louhi here is from
Wagner's march of the valkuries. Don Rosa has actually
used this music example on an earlier occasion in a
Duck story ..."
A list reader or two thought this reflected sloppy work on part of
the editors, in that this earlier Rosa-Wagner occasion was not directly
referred to. On my/our part it was intended differently! The
three suggestive dot dot dot were meant as a pedagogical incentive to
Go Forth!, find out where this could possibly be, in your
own Donald Duck/Anders And/Kalle Anka collection!
My (only) measurable reward for my several hours of professorial
middle-of-the-night assistance for Egmont is the opportunity
provided me for being listed under "K" in the yellow pages, since
I'm referred to (in small print) as
Kalevala-konsulent: Nils Lid Hjort
in the 180.000 * 3 = 540.000 Donald Duck issues.
last couple of weeks, and I'd like to provide some footnotes
to the topic of _footnotes_, which were used (sparingly) in the
Norwegian and Danish editions #48-#50 of Don Rosa's Kalevala story.
Why footnotes, in the first place? The Kalevala story is
interesting and unusual on several accounts, not only since
it is a long 33 page story by a gifted storyteller and artist.
It is rather more complicated than most Disney stories, and
involves a peculiar and for most people unknown literary epic
universe, that of the Finnish-Karelian Kalevala. Thus the
Egmont publishers felt the need to (or rather were prodded,
by me, into feeling the need to) help their readers a little bit,
with an introduction page and a summary "Who's who and what
in Kalevala" page.
I helped construct these pages, in cooperation with the Norwegian
editors; the same pages appear also in the Danish and Swedish
parallel editions. (I was also the "main translator" handling
the translations of Rosa's runo rhythms into proper Kalevala-meter
and so on, but that's a footnote, in this connection.) And I
managed to get hold of a kind colleague's copy of "Hiawatha",
Classics Illustrated 1949, the cover of which, to Hiawatha's and
Longfellow's surpise, has been photocopied in something
like 180.000 + 190.000 + 210.000 copies all over Scandinavia...
Well then: *in addition* to these hopefully informative and helpful
pages, we felt that some inobtrusively placed *footnotes*, at strategic
points, could further help the reader on his/her way towards
enlightenment. The Swedish translator (and honoured list member)
Stefan Di{\"o}s disagrees, and avoided them (which is fine with me,
of course!). But in the Norwegian and by parallelism also the Danish
editions one finds
"Mustasaari means `Black Island'" ,
"The music Vainamoinen plays here is from `Finlandia'
by Sibelius, a work first performed exactly 100 years ago" ,
and so on. This is perhaps the only Disney story where such
footnotes have been actively used by the publisher. -- It would
have been better, imVho, if these bits of information could have
been squeezed into a single introduction section (one or two pages),
but here space was constrained, and I (with politely nodding editors)
was brimming with extra information I excitedly wished to stuff
down the readers' throats. So there.
A footnote on the page 50/#49 footnote, which was misinterpreted
by someone here: I wrote something like
"The music played by old Pohjola-lady Louhi here is from
Wagner's march of the valkuries. Don Rosa has actually
used this music example on an earlier occasion in a
Duck story ..."
A list reader or two thought this reflected sloppy work on part of
the editors, in that this earlier Rosa-Wagner occasion was not directly
referred to. On my/our part it was intended differently! The
three suggestive dot dot dot were meant as a pedagogical incentive to
Go Forth!, find out where this could possibly be, in your
own Donald Duck/Anders And/Kalle Anka collection!
My (only) measurable reward for my several hours of professorial
middle-of-the-night assistance for Egmont is the opportunity
provided me for being listed under "K" in the yellow pages, since
I'm referred to (in small print) as
Kalevala-konsulent: Nils Lid Hjort
in the 180.000 * 3 = 540.000 Donald Duck issues.
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Olamo shel Disni
Message 78 -
2000-01-22 at 04:33:48
Hey Vidar!
>In the first story (six pages), 'Donald Dak' asks Gyro to make a (female)
>robot to do the house. Everything is ok until Donald presses the wrong
>button. The robot gives Donald a *hot* bath and other ill treatment. On the
>last page Donald flees Gyro's house after duplicating the robot.
Harry thought this to be a Dutch story, but I believe it to be one of
Egmont's: D 97228 "Serves You Right," written by Pat and Shelly Block and
drawn by Torres. Actually, the robot is supposed to be a substitute
*girlfriend* for Donald!
>Then there's a Goofy story (seven pages). Goofy walks into a tree and
>thinks he is dead. He steal food, and is chased to a hilltop. Mickey
>catches him and tells him he's not dead.
This is D 98415 "Afterlife Of The Party," written by Stefan Petrucha and
drawn by Jorge David. 'Ghost' Goofy morosely decides it must be his duty to
haunt the city by doing "the most villainous thing" he could ever think of
doing. That translates into... well, stealing food from a roadside kiosk...
"Hey! You gonna pay for all that?"
"Nope! >Yum!< An' that's 'cause I'm wreakin' muh eternal vengeance
on yuh from beyond thuh grave!"
>The last story is another 'Donald Dak' six pager. Donald can't handle
>watching a soccer match. The match is broadcasted everywhere, and Donald
>ends up as a nervous wreck.
This is D 98179 "Ninety Minutes," story by Paul Halas (plot) and Jack Sutter
(script) with art by Anibal Uzal.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
>In the first story (six pages), 'Donald Dak' asks Gyro to make a (female)
>robot to do the house. Everything is ok until Donald presses the wrong
>button. The robot gives Donald a *hot* bath and other ill treatment. On the
>last page Donald flees Gyro's house after duplicating the robot.
Harry thought this to be a Dutch story, but I believe it to be one of
Egmont's: D 97228 "Serves You Right," written by Pat and Shelly Block and
drawn by Torres. Actually, the robot is supposed to be a substitute
*girlfriend* for Donald!
>Then there's a Goofy story (seven pages). Goofy walks into a tree and
>thinks he is dead. He steal food, and is chased to a hilltop. Mickey
>catches him and tells him he's not dead.
This is D 98415 "Afterlife Of The Party," written by Stefan Petrucha and
drawn by Jorge David. 'Ghost' Goofy morosely decides it must be his duty to
haunt the city by doing "the most villainous thing" he could ever think of
doing. That translates into... well, stealing food from a roadside kiosk...
"Hey! You gonna pay for all that?"
"Nope! >Yum!< An' that's 'cause I'm wreakin' muh eternal vengeance
on yuh from beyond thuh grave!"
>The last story is another 'Donald Dak' six pager. Donald can't handle
>watching a soccer match. The match is broadcasted everywhere, and Donald
>ends up as a nervous wreck.
This is D 98179 "Ninety Minutes," story by Paul Halas (plot) and Jack Sutter
(script) with art by Anibal Uzal.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Footnotes
Message 79 -
2000-01-22 at 14:24:42
Nils Lid Hjort
Thanks for explaining reasons for the editorial pages and
footnotes of the Kalevala. I read the first editorial page first
and noted all the nice advices as to how one should read the
story having all 3 parts, reading the notes and so on. It also
said that Don used the special meter/rhytm. I noted later,
thanks to you, that the norwegian text about the meter says:
the norwegian translator used the rhytm too!
I later learned that the actual only mistake in the danish version
would be that the person-who-puts-texts-in-the-bubbles didn't use
the special font.
Back to footnotes:
I'm glad that so much extra info was brought to us, but still some of
it
seemed to me to be foolishness from the dansih side. But I of course
can't know the origin of this: Can you find Don's signature in the
first panel?
Nope! i can find no signature, it doesn't say Don Rosa upthere (It
says at the bottom of the next page, with the usual font:-)
What I can find is what I have learned to call a dedication... A
dedication
to a master. It is not a signature that Don puts in his stories to tell
us it
is his, we don't need to find a such to know that it is his story, we
can
even sometimes see it in the credits (1991 and 1999-?). D.U.C.K.
doesn't
mean: Don, then undefeated Comic King or something like that, it is a
dedication not a signature. Done
The "someone here" was me:-)
> "The music played by old Pohjola-lady Louhi here is from
> Wagner's march of the valkuries. Don Rosa has actually
> used this music example on an earlier occasion in a
> Duck story ..."
First: *it is* very, should we say beautiful, that the readers get to
know that,
They will have learned also that from the weekly.
secondly: Okay, the editors weren't sloopy here then, but to me it
just seemed so, as it didn't say: go find it.
> Kalevala-konsulent: Nils Lid Hjort
> in the 180.000 * 3 = 540.000 Donald Duck issues.
I'm sorry to say, even if you do highly deserve it, you don't seem to
be mentioned in the danish weekly in the colofon or what's it called.
The danish translator and the editors and editor-in-chief of the mag is
mentioned...
This happened also to Translators Rindom and Daa (also know as
JW-generals:-) in all the issues they translated, they were never
credited in the magazine.
Let me say: 1999 was a good year in terms of stories in the weekly, and
covers, which is off course the most important. But there has been some
little mistakes in terms of fact-pages. I hope 2000 will be better on
all areas, but already in issue 3 I see the first Duckburg Times with
references to the Vacuum-story and Lost in the South Seas, but I just
know those references, it doesn't say anywhere...
AC
Thanks for explaining reasons for the editorial pages and
footnotes of the Kalevala. I read the first editorial page first
and noted all the nice advices as to how one should read the
story having all 3 parts, reading the notes and so on. It also
said that Don used the special meter/rhytm. I noted later,
thanks to you, that the norwegian text about the meter says:
the norwegian translator used the rhytm too!
I later learned that the actual only mistake in the danish version
would be that the person-who-puts-texts-in-the-bubbles didn't use
the special font.
Back to footnotes:
I'm glad that so much extra info was brought to us, but still some of
it
seemed to me to be foolishness from the dansih side. But I of course
can't know the origin of this: Can you find Don's signature in the
first panel?
Nope! i can find no signature, it doesn't say Don Rosa upthere (It
says at the bottom of the next page, with the usual font:-)
What I can find is what I have learned to call a dedication... A
dedication
to a master. It is not a signature that Don puts in his stories to tell
us it
is his, we don't need to find a such to know that it is his story, we
can
even sometimes see it in the credits (1991 and 1999-?). D.U.C.K.
doesn't
mean: Don, then undefeated Comic King or something like that, it is a
dedication not a signature. Done
The "someone here" was me:-)
> "The music played by old Pohjola-lady Louhi here is from
> Wagner's march of the valkuries. Don Rosa has actually
> used this music example on an earlier occasion in a
> Duck story ..."
First: *it is* very, should we say beautiful, that the readers get to
know that,
They will have learned also that from the weekly.
secondly: Okay, the editors weren't sloopy here then, but to me it
just seemed so, as it didn't say: go find it.
> Kalevala-konsulent: Nils Lid Hjort
> in the 180.000 * 3 = 540.000 Donald Duck issues.
I'm sorry to say, even if you do highly deserve it, you don't seem to
be mentioned in the danish weekly in the colofon or what's it called.
The danish translator and the editors and editor-in-chief of the mag is
mentioned...
This happened also to Translators Rindom and Daa (also know as
JW-generals:-) in all the issues they translated, they were never
credited in the magazine.
Let me say: 1999 was a good year in terms of stories in the weekly, and
covers, which is off course the most important. But there has been some
little mistakes in terms of fact-pages. I hope 2000 will be better on
all areas, but already in issue 3 I see the first Duckburg Times with
references to the Vacuum-story and Lost in the South Seas, but I just
know those references, it doesn't say anywhere...
AC
Michael Naiman
Contact
Message 80 -
2000-01-23 at 05:22:46
sorry for the "missing persons alert", but I lost all email
addresses.....
Arie in Indonesia..please contact me at my new email address
Michael
addresses.....
Arie in Indonesia..please contact me at my new email address
Michael
Vlbmom
Unsubcribe Please
Message 81 -
2000-01-23 at 15:26:10
Please take me off your mailing list.
Anders Christian Sivebaek
How to read Donald Duck
Message 82 -
2000-01-23 at 17:54:32
Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Anders Christian Sivebaek
How to read Donald Duck
Message 83 -
2000-01-23 at 17:54:32
Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Søren Krarup Olesen
How to read Donald Duck
Message 84 -
2000-01-23 at 18:41:25
AC:
> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
S?ren
> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
S?ren
Frank Stajano
How to read Donald Duck
Message 85 -
2000-01-24 at 01:43:51
At 2000-01-23 17:41 +0100, S?ren Krarup Olesen wrote:
>AC:
>
> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>
>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>AC:
>
> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>
>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Userpro
DCML digest, Vol 1 #59 - 5 msgs
Message 86 -
2000-01-24 at 02:04:47
remove me from this list
Anders Christian Sivebaek
DCML digest, Vol 1 #61 - 6 msgs
Message 87 -
2000-01-24 at 13:13:58
Hi
First: Sorry that i send thatlast mail to times... it sometimes
happens...
BTW What a long list... but it was: to non-scriptions mails send to the
wrong adress.
two mails from me, which were exactly the same, and then, most
important two answers.
> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
S?REN
> I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
I see. Thanks, but I guess the story hasn't been published in a danish
pocket of some sort, or else I would expect you to remember:-)
S?ren
FRANK
> My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
so we have two good possiblities. Is it possible that one could find
the story searching for revolutione de ...?
AC
First: Sorry that i send thatlast mail to times... it sometimes
happens...
BTW What a long list... but it was: to non-scriptions mails send to the
wrong adress.
two mails from me, which were exactly the same, and then, most
important two answers.
> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
S?REN
> I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
I see. Thanks, but I guess the story hasn't been published in a danish
pocket of some sort, or else I would expect you to remember:-)
S?ren
FRANK
> My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
so we have two good possiblities. Is it possible that one could find
the story searching for revolutione de ...?
AC
Anni Rämö
DCML digest, Vol 1 #61 - 6 msgs
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From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
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Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100
Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
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From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
To: <dcml at numerus.LING.UU.SE>
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100
Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:41:25 +0100
From: Søren Krarup Olesen <sko at acoustics.dk>
Organization: Acoustics Laboratory, Aalborg University
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Subject: Re: How to read Donald Duck
AC:
> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
Søren
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:43:51 +0000
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From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
Subject: Re: How to read Donald Duck
At 2000-01-23 17:41 +0100, Søren Krarup Olesen wrote:
>AC:
>
> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>
>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/)
http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 08:26:10 EST
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From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
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Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100
Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
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From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
To: <dcml at numerus.LING.UU.SE>
Subject: How to read Donald Duck
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:54:32 +0100
Hello friends
Thanks to Don for helping with the pirat-drawing.
another problem I have: I recently borrowed the book "How to read DD"
at the library, you know the chilean book written by Dorfman and
Mattelart.
One of the most controversial panels they show in the book is where
Donald has helped a king fighting som revolutionaires, and the king
asks what they want for it, and Donald hopes the kids ask for a lot of
money (I've put 2 of the 3 shown panels online at:
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
I hope one of you can help me identify the story, cause I would like to
read it or hear what it was genrally about, and if the dialogue is
changed much in the meaning. (It's been translated from american to
chilean to american to danish...)
Thanks
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:41:25 +0100
From: Søren Krarup Olesen <sko at acoustics.dk>
Organization: Acoustics Laboratory, Aalborg University
To: Disney Comics Mailing List <dcml at numerus.ling.uu.se>
Subject: Re: How to read Donald Duck
AC:
> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
Søren
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:04:47 EST
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #59 - 5 msgs
To: dcml at numerus.ling.uu.se
remove me from this list
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:43:51 +0000
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From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
Subject: Re: How to read Donald Duck
At 2000-01-23 17:41 +0100, Søren Krarup Olesen wrote:
>AC:
>
> > http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
> > I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>
>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/)
http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
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2000-01-24 at 15:44:10
AC:
Anders Christian Sivebaek wrote:
> S?REN
> > I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
> I see. Thanks, but I guess the story hasn't been published in a danish
> pocket of some sort, or else I would expect you to remember:-)
Perhaps :-). I BTW "withdraw my redraw theory". The reason for it
looking so irregular is probably due to your B/W scan. Can you please
make a few (many) more scans and in colour? Please also tell more about
no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it takes.
S?ren
Anders Christian Sivebaek wrote:
> S?REN
> > I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
> I see. Thanks, but I guess the story hasn't been published in a danish
> pocket of some sort, or else I would expect you to remember:-)
Perhaps :-). I BTW "withdraw my redraw theory". The reason for it
looking so irregular is probably due to your B/W scan. Can you please
make a few (many) more scans and in colour? Please also tell more about
no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it takes.
S?ren
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DCML digest, Vol 1 #61 - 6 msgs
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