Today I spent a full day at the Dutch Disney editors (VNU). Mainly to
tie some loose ends in our Inducks database. We reached a milestone
today: the index for the Dutch Donald Duck weekly is *complete*
(1952-2000)!!
Also, the cover information for *all* covers from 1987 to 1999 was
checked by editor Frans Hasselaar and artist Michel Nadorp!
Some other (interesting and less interesting) news:
The story code of the first H-story this year is "H 2001". I forgot to
ask Thom Roep about his plans for codes this year (and the following
years)...
Don Rosa's story about the Lost Dutchman's mine will be published
in DD Extra #3 (March), 2000.
Wilma van den Bosch will continue her (non-Disney) Aster stories,
to be published in DD weekly. Very good stuff (IMO)!
The VNU people use our Inducks index every day. I showed them
some more ways to use it (they only used Per's "search facility" so far).
Unfortunately, the editors (almost) all use a Mac, so I had some
problems using the indexes I brought with me on floppy disc.
There's still some standardisation to be done in the software
business...
--Harry.
I.N.D.U.C.K.S. database: http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
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Topic: 200001
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Harry Fluks
Dutch news
Message 91 -
2000-01-24 at 18:58:37
Armando Botto
How to read Donald Duck
Message 92 -
2000-01-24 at 22:02:31
AC, Soren, Frank:
>>> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
>>> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
>My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
I've had a look at my copy of "How to read Donald Duck", so I could see the
third panel as well ;-)
And I fully agree with Soren: G.B. Carpi, probably traced-off. The problem
is: which story ?
The style is that of the late 60es, I'd say (which fits in well with the
Chilean book's publishing date, 1971).
The only candidate I found in the FSB is
I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
/Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone, QQQ,
Cuordipietra Famedoro
"Adventure in South America"... I cannot check, as I have only the first
part of that story (reprinted in CWD 42, GCD 91). I'm not so convinced
myself, though ;-)
Ciao,
Armando
>>> http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto.gif
>>> I hope one of you can help me identify the story [...]
>>I smell some G. B. Carpi here, but it must have been redrawn.
>My feeling too. Or, even more so, Capitanio.
I've had a look at my copy of "How to read Donald Duck", so I could see the
third panel as well ;-)
And I fully agree with Soren: G.B. Carpi, probably traced-off. The problem
is: which story ?
The style is that of the late 60es, I'd say (which fits in well with the
Chilean book's publishing date, 1971).
The only candidate I found in the FSB is
I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
/Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone, QQQ,
Cuordipietra Famedoro
"Adventure in South America"... I cannot check, as I have only the first
part of that story (reprinted in CWD 42, GCD 91). I'm not so convinced
myself, though ;-)
Ciao,
Armando
Stefan Persson
Dutch news
Message 93 -
2000-01-24 at 22:14:28
>From: Harry Fluks <fluks4 at wxs.nl>
>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:58:37 +-100
>Some other (interesting and less interesting) news:
>
>The story code of the first H-story this year is "H 2001". I forgot to ask
>Thom Roep about his plans for codes this year (and the following years)...
Strange coding system... I understand why you wonder about the format of it.
It looks more like that it was made in 1920.
>Don Rosa's story about the Lost Dutchman's mine will be published in DD
>Extra #3 (March), 2000.
Hasn't it been published earlier in the Netherlands? Here in Sweden it was
published a year ago! I know that the D stories are published later in
Holland than in Sweden, but I didn't know that it was this late!
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>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:58:37 +-100
>Some other (interesting and less interesting) news:
>
>The story code of the first H-story this year is "H 2001". I forgot to ask
>Thom Roep about his plans for codes this year (and the following years)...
Strange coding system... I understand why you wonder about the format of it.
It looks more like that it was made in 1920.
>Don Rosa's story about the Lost Dutchman's mine will be published in DD
>Extra #3 (March), 2000.
Hasn't it been published earlier in the Netherlands? Here in Sweden it was
published a year ago! I know that the D stories are published later in
Holland than in Sweden, but I didn't know that it was this late!
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Tryg Helseth
Gyro appears in F&SF
Message 94 -
2000-01-25 at 04:59:07
In the February 2000 issue of Fantasy and Science Fiction magazine appears a short story Paul Di Filippo titled, "Stink Lines."
The story starts in 2001 when, in honor of Carl Barks 100th birthday, Disney Corporation buys up the town of Los Gatos California and renames it "Duckburg." The town is remodeled to resemble Barks Duckburg complete with walk-around role-playing characters.
The hero of the story is a young resident of the new Duckburg named Gary Greer-Lish. His school mates waste no time in christening him as Gyro Gearloose. He decides to adopt the name when Ginger Barks (a distant relative of Carl) tells him the name is "cool."
Through the years Gary takes on more the personality of Gyro and becomes an eccentric inventor. In the hopes of impressing his secret love, Ginger, he invents a "utility fog" consisting of nano-machines that can simulate dialog balloons and visual devices depicting emotions, odors, etc.
I'll stop there so as not to spoil the story for anyone who cares to read it, but I have to admit it was quite a surprise to see a story based on Barks work in this publication--especially one starring Gyro Gearloose. I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at all familiar with Barks, and much less Gyro. Maybe more than we think?
Tryg
The story starts in 2001 when, in honor of Carl Barks 100th birthday, Disney Corporation buys up the town of Los Gatos California and renames it "Duckburg." The town is remodeled to resemble Barks Duckburg complete with walk-around role-playing characters.
The hero of the story is a young resident of the new Duckburg named Gary Greer-Lish. His school mates waste no time in christening him as Gyro Gearloose. He decides to adopt the name when Ginger Barks (a distant relative of Carl) tells him the name is "cool."
Through the years Gary takes on more the personality of Gyro and becomes an eccentric inventor. In the hopes of impressing his secret love, Ginger, he invents a "utility fog" consisting of nano-machines that can simulate dialog balloons and visual devices depicting emotions, odors, etc.
I'll stop there so as not to spoil the story for anyone who cares to read it, but I have to admit it was quite a surprise to see a story based on Barks work in this publication--especially one starring Gyro Gearloose. I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at all familiar with Barks, and much less Gyro. Maybe more than we think?
Tryg
Kriton Kyrimis
Gyro appears in F&SF
Message 95 -
2000-01-25 at 13:56:09
TRYG:
> I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at all familiar
> with Barks, and much less Gyro. Maybe more than we think?
Being in an acerbic mood, I'l comment that being, by its nature, addressed
to the small minority of people that can read, the story is addressed to
the same kind of audience as that of Barks' stories. Thus, the probability
of a high overlap between the two audiences is significant.
Speaking of overlap between Disney comics and SF audiences, I wonder if
there is actually any truth in the above statement. I know I enjoy both,
but a sample of one does not permit one to derive any conclusions. However,
as both kinds of fiction could be described as fantasy, expanding from
talking ducks to starships as one grows up makes some sort of sense.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"...to seek new life, to explore strange new worlds, to boldly go where no
particulate entity with any sentient characteristics whatsoever has gone
before."
-----
> I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at all familiar
> with Barks, and much less Gyro. Maybe more than we think?
Being in an acerbic mood, I'l comment that being, by its nature, addressed
to the small minority of people that can read, the story is addressed to
the same kind of audience as that of Barks' stories. Thus, the probability
of a high overlap between the two audiences is significant.
Speaking of overlap between Disney comics and SF audiences, I wonder if
there is actually any truth in the above statement. I know I enjoy both,
but a sample of one does not permit one to derive any conclusions. However,
as both kinds of fiction could be described as fantasy, expanding from
talking ducks to starships as one grows up makes some sort of sense.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"...to seek new life, to explore strange new worlds, to boldly go where no
particulate entity with any sentient characteristics whatsoever has gone
before."
-----
Anders Christian Sivebaek
62 - Anni, How to read Donald, and a short story about Barks?! :-)
Message 96 -
2000-01-25 at 18:30:24
Anni
> Please take out of this list...!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder how she got on it... it seems she can't even read.
unsubscriptions shoudl be send to another adress!
S?REN
> Can you please
> make a few (many) more scans and in colour?
Okay, just tell me one thing: How do i scan in color from a b/w book??
:-) LOL!
> Please also tell more about no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it
takes.
Yes, I know what it takes, but I scanned 2 of 3 panels shown in the
... book.
The book is very strange as to references. they do tell where some of
their Barks-panles come from but they write CS in stead of WDC and they
write issue number of a year... and I don't know how to find such
things... This revolution-story
is not refererred (?) at all...
Armando Botto
Your suggestions sounds correct to me... on the other hand how should I
know.
But the word candidati rings some bell. does it mean something about
king in italian?
> I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
> Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
> /Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone,
QQQ,
> Cuordipietra Famedoro
> "Adventure in South America"...
definiterly sounds like it!
I hope you find the second part if you want to. I hate it when i can't
read all parts.
Tryg:
> I'll stop there so as not to spoil the story for anyone who cares to
read it, but I have to admit it was quite a surprise to see a story
based on Barks work in this publication--especially one starring Gyro
Gearloose. I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at
all familiar with Barks, and much less Gyro. >Maybe more than we
think?
This sounds very interesting. Do you have the magazine yourself, or did
you see it somewhere on the net?
I don't think I speak only for myself when saying, that I would like to
see the whole
short story:-)
> Please take out of this list...!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder how she got on it... it seems she can't even read.
unsubscriptions shoudl be send to another adress!
S?REN
> Can you please
> make a few (many) more scans and in colour?
Okay, just tell me one thing: How do i scan in color from a b/w book??
:-) LOL!
> Please also tell more about no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it
takes.
Yes, I know what it takes, but I scanned 2 of 3 panels shown in the
... book.
The book is very strange as to references. they do tell where some of
their Barks-panles come from but they write CS in stead of WDC and they
write issue number of a year... and I don't know how to find such
things... This revolution-story
is not refererred (?) at all...
Armando Botto
Your suggestions sounds correct to me... on the other hand how should I
know.
But the word candidati rings some bell. does it mean something about
king in italian?
> I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
> Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
> /Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone,
QQQ,
> Cuordipietra Famedoro
> "Adventure in South America"...
definiterly sounds like it!
I hope you find the second part if you want to. I hate it when i can't
read all parts.
Tryg:
> I'll stop there so as not to spoil the story for anyone who cares to
read it, but I have to admit it was quite a surprise to see a story
based on Barks work in this publication--especially one starring Gyro
Gearloose. I have to wonder what percentage of the readers would be at
all familiar with Barks, and much less Gyro. >Maybe more than we
think?
This sounds very interesting. Do you have the magazine yourself, or did
you see it somewhere on the net?
I don't think I speak only for myself when saying, that I would like to
see the whole
short story:-)
Søren Krarup Olesen
62 - Anni, How to read Donald, and a short story about Barks?! :-)
Message 97 -
2000-01-25 at 19:09:03
AC:
> > Can you please
> > make a few (many) more scans and in colour?
> Okay, just tell me one thing: How do i scan in color from a b/w book??
> :-) LOL!
Hm, well, I still claim to be seeing "in colour" even if I'm watching an
old B/W movie. In other words, if you scan the B/W panels in RGB-mode
then the transitions between what's white and what's black will be
softened. That would help to tell if was redrawn.
> > Please also tell more about no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it
> takes.
> Yes, I know what it takes, but I scanned 2 of 3 panels shown in the
> ... book.
So where's the third one then? ;-)
S?ren
> > Can you please
> > make a few (many) more scans and in colour?
> Okay, just tell me one thing: How do i scan in color from a b/w book??
> :-) LOL!
Hm, well, I still claim to be seeing "in colour" even if I'm watching an
old B/W movie. In other words, if you scan the B/W panels in RGB-mode
then the transitions between what's white and what's black will be
softened. That would help to tell if was redrawn.
> > Please also tell more about no of pages, xapp's etc. You know what it
> takes.
> Yes, I know what it takes, but I scanned 2 of 3 panels shown in the
> ... book.
So where's the third one then? ;-)
S?ren
Anders Christian Sivebaek
How to read Donald,
Message 98 -
2000-01-25 at 20:17:54
I understand now what you want, and that you wonder where the third
panel is..
I'm going to upload some things tonight so I'll upload the 3 panels
in "color" :-)
AC
panel is..
I'm going to upload some things tonight so I'll upload the 3 panels
in "color" :-)
AC
Hans Kiesl
Gladstone version of Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon"
Message 99 -
2000-01-25 at 20:42:13
By chance, I discovered the following minor art changes in the
Gladstone publication of Romano Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon". I
hope this has not already been discussed before.
Scarpa's drawings of the people of a fictitious far-away
country (as originally printed in 1960) were obviously not regarded
as politically correct 35 years later, when the story was to be
published in the United States. Some minor "adjustments" were made
(by Scarpa himself? by Gladstone's art department?).
Have a look at the scans:
http://members.xoom.com/1729/scarpa/lentils.htm
-Hans-
Gladstone publication of Romano Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon". I
hope this has not already been discussed before.
Scarpa's drawings of the people of a fictitious far-away
country (as originally printed in 1960) were obviously not regarded
as politically correct 35 years later, when the story was to be
published in the United States. Some minor "adjustments" were made
(by Scarpa himself? by Gladstone's art department?).
Have a look at the scans:
http://members.xoom.com/1729/scarpa/lentils.htm
-Hans-
Santiago García Baños
TOPOLINO AT LAST!
Message 100 -
2000-01-25 at 21:01:00
To anyone interested in Italian subscriptions:
Some time ago I commented on this list I had troubles requesting info
about subscriptions to Italian editors. Yesterday, at last, I recieved
a posting from "The Walt Disney Company Italia" reporting me the
editions actually available & payment ways accepted, which I quote
here for anyone interested:
----------------------------------------------------------------
List of prices for a one-year subscription:
Title isues/year Ordinary mail Air mail
================================================================
I GRANDE CLASSICI 12 75100 84100
I CALSSICI 12 62100 69300
ZIO PAPERONE 12 74200 81400
I MAESTRI DISNEY No subscriptions admitted
(we already know the reasons why :-( )
TOPOPLINO 52 208200 239400
(all prices in Italian Lire)
Way of payment for foreign countries:
-International check to:
THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY ITALIA
Via Sandro Sandri, 1
20121 Milano
-Visa credit card (send 16 digits + date of outdate)
Other data of interest:
Tel. Subscription Office: (039) 2020350 (Beware: as someone remarked,
they maybe speak only Italian!)
Fax: (02) 29085190
----------------------------------------------------------------
So, after some time insisting, they at last answered me. Maybe there
is any member from the Italian WD Company staff on this list? If it
was so, I want to thank them for his kindness (I had almost lost my
hopes after Marco suggested they didn't accept foreign subscriptions
no more; I'm glad they changed their mind).
Thanks Archontis, Marco, and others who helped me!
Greetings,
Santiago.
Some time ago I commented on this list I had troubles requesting info
about subscriptions to Italian editors. Yesterday, at last, I recieved
a posting from "The Walt Disney Company Italia" reporting me the
editions actually available & payment ways accepted, which I quote
here for anyone interested:
----------------------------------------------------------------
List of prices for a one-year subscription:
Title isues/year Ordinary mail Air mail
================================================================
I GRANDE CLASSICI 12 75100 84100
I CALSSICI 12 62100 69300
ZIO PAPERONE 12 74200 81400
I MAESTRI DISNEY No subscriptions admitted
(we already know the reasons why :-( )
TOPOPLINO 52 208200 239400
(all prices in Italian Lire)
Way of payment for foreign countries:
-International check to:
THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY ITALIA
Via Sandro Sandri, 1
20121 Milano
-Visa credit card (send 16 digits + date of outdate)
Other data of interest:
Tel. Subscription Office: (039) 2020350 (Beware: as someone remarked,
they maybe speak only Italian!)
Fax: (02) 29085190
----------------------------------------------------------------
So, after some time insisting, they at last answered me. Maybe there
is any member from the Italian WD Company staff on this list? If it
was so, I want to thank them for his kindness (I had almost lost my
hopes after Marco suggested they didn't accept foreign subscriptions
no more; I'm glad they changed their mind).
Thanks Archontis, Marco, and others who helped me!
Greetings,
Santiago.
Santiago Garcia Banhos
TOPOPLINO AT LAST! (2)
Message 101 -
2000-01-25 at 21:18:13
Oops! Sorry for the rubish in my name on my previous message. But at least I
didn't quote the whole digest! :-)
Santiago.
didn't quote the whole digest! :-)
Santiago.
Archontis Pantsios
Greetings from Binghamton, NY!!!
Message 102 -
2000-01-25 at 21:32:03
Fellow Quackeroos!
Well, it didn't take me much to get back on the (list)wagon, did it?! :-)
I'm writing from a freezing up-state NY. When I arrived in NYC last Friday,
it was -30 F with the wind chill factor! Now, it's all the way up to 15F
with a snow storm out my office window...
Let me take this opportunity to say "hi" to all my dcml friends out there
and let them know of my present whereabouts. My new e-mail address is:
apantsi at binghamton.edu
Nice to be "back"...
Cheers,
Archontis
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York
USA
Well, it didn't take me much to get back on the (list)wagon, did it?! :-)
I'm writing from a freezing up-state NY. When I arrived in NYC last Friday,
it was -30 F with the wind chill factor! Now, it's all the way up to 15F
with a snow storm out my office window...
Let me take this opportunity to say "hi" to all my dcml friends out there
and let them know of my present whereabouts. My new e-mail address is:
apantsi at binghamton.edu
Nice to be "back"...
Cheers,
Archontis
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York
USA
Francesco Spreafico
62 - Anni, How to read Donald, and a short story about Barks?! :-)
Message 103 -
2000-01-25 at 23:44:09
From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
> I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
> Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
> /Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone,
QQQ,
> Cuordipietra Famedoro
> "Adventure in South America"...
definiterly sounds like it!
It's not this, I just checked :-(
Sprea
> I TL 615-A, I TL 616-A (Sep. 1967)
> Paperino e i candidati al CIAO
> /Martina/Carpi/30+28/avventura sudamericana/Paperino; Zio Paperone,
QQQ,
> Cuordipietra Famedoro
> "Adventure in South America"...
definiterly sounds like it!
It's not this, I just checked :-(
Sprea
Anders Christian Sivebaek
How to read
Message 104 -
2000-01-26 at 01:15:35
S?ren, others
here I have uploaded the colour scans from the How to read DD-book
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto2.jpg
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
here I have uploaded the colour scans from the How to read DD-book
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Mall/5218/howto2.jpg
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Gladstone version of Scarpa's "Lentils from Babylon"
Message 105 -
2000-01-26 at 14:46:06
Hey Hans!
>Scarpa's drawings of the people of a fictitious far-away
>country (as originally printed in 1960) were obviously not regarded
>as politically correct 35 years later, when the story was to be
>published in the United States. Some minor "adjustments" were made
>(by Scarpa himself? by Gladstone's art department?).
By Gladstone's art department.
As the story's American dialogue writer, I can confirm that the
change was done to make the story acceptable to Disney-Burbank. The same
goes for the African "Gold Coast" of the original story (it was not allowed
to be an African country at all, but we *could* get away with making it an
imaginary Asian country).
We weren't allowed to let the natives sound ignorant by letting them
speak (Scarpa's original) crude, pidgin English, but we *were* allowed to
create the effect of ignorance by giving them very elaborate *old-fashioned*
English - as if they'd learned the language by reading a book. So I hope to
have preserved the original intent.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
>Scarpa's drawings of the people of a fictitious far-away
>country (as originally printed in 1960) were obviously not regarded
>as politically correct 35 years later, when the story was to be
>published in the United States. Some minor "adjustments" were made
>(by Scarpa himself? by Gladstone's art department?).
By Gladstone's art department.
As the story's American dialogue writer, I can confirm that the
change was done to make the story acceptable to Disney-Burbank. The same
goes for the African "Gold Coast" of the original story (it was not allowed
to be an African country at all, but we *could* get away with making it an
imaginary Asian country).
We weren't allowed to let the natives sound ignorant by letting them
speak (Scarpa's original) crude, pidgin English, but we *were* allowed to
create the effect of ignorance by giving them very elaborate *old-fashioned*
English - as if they'd learned the language by reading a book. So I hope to
have preserved the original intent.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>