At 19:22:10 16/03/00 +0100, oliv wrote:
>
>I've had the pleasure to read a veeeeery
>goooood story of MM in Mickey Parade,
>
>I TL 2283 "L'ombre du dragon"
>which is drawn by Paolo Mottura and
>scripted by Tito Faraci.
>
>[...]
>--------
>MARCO :
>Isn't it the same story you were talking about in January ?
>
No, I was talking about a story written by the same Tito Faraci and drawn
by Silvia Ziche (better than Mottura IMHO).
However, almost EVERY story written by Tito Faraci is bound to be good.
Look for his name, it's worth reading his stories!
In the latest "Topolino" (OK OK I should give the issue number but I'm
quoting without having the comic in front of me!!!) there is a (good) story
by Tito where Donald finds a treasure map and hires $crooge for 30 c. an
hour to accompany him in the treasure hunt! (Thus the usual Barks-Rosa
situation is reversed!)
Marco
Author
Topic: 200003
(174 messages)
Marco Barlotti
The dragon's shadow
Message 121 -
2000-03-17 at 13:16:57
Sandven, Halvor
The Ducks are taking over
Message 122 -
2000-03-17 at 13:21:24
Hello!
I've had some fun using the danish indexes in INDUCKS to see how many pages
of Donald, Mickey, the wolves and so on were published each year of the
danish weekly, and the percentages of the total number of pages for each
year. To do this I have split the different heroes of the stories in 13
different categories, Donald and friends, Mickey and friends, the wolves,
the B-boys, brer Rabbit and friends, Chip & Dale, Grandma Duck, Gyro, Little
Hiawatha, Scamp, and the rest. Of course this may not be 100% correct,
because for instance Gyro may appear in an Donald-story, but still, the
results may tell us something.
The results show that for many years the ducks had about 40-50% of the total
number of pages. The year 1962 had only 36%. From 1985 the percentage has
increased and the highest percentage was 1999 with 70,6%.
Mickey and friends were not so much used the earliest years. In 1952 only 9%
were dedicated to him. He rapidly became more popular, with the top in 1983
with 38,2%. After that it has been downhill, and in 1999 it was only 21,2%.
The first years the wolves were second-most used with about 25%. In the
early and mid 60ies these stories bacame more seldom, but in the 70ies they
were more used again with up to 10%. Now they are not much seen, with only
1,3%.
Some other interesting facts:
In the late 80ies the Beagle-Boys were third-most used with nearly 10% in
1986.
Brer Rabbit are now nearly never seen with only 0,1% in 1999.
Chip&Dale were most popular in the late 50ies and early 60ies with 8,7% in
1961. In 1999 there were none stories published.
In 1951 and 1952 Grandma Duck were third-most used with nearly 20% in 1952.
In 1999 it was only 1,1%
Gyro were most popular in the early and mid 60ies with top in 1966 with
9,4%.
Little Hiawatha were most popular in 1953 to 1955 with about 8% these years.
In 1999 it was 0,2%.
Scamp had his top in 1961 with nearly 9%. This put him on 3rd posistion this
year. Now he's nearly never seen.
Moby Duck had 4,2% in 1969. In the last 20 years he's very little used.
Other stories were most common in the 50ies and early 90ies. They include
Bongo, Pinocchio, Snow White and 7 dwarfs, Basil, Aristocats, Dumbo and some
other.
If anyone wants more details regarding this subject, please contact me. I
can also find such results for other coutries that are reasonably updated in
INDUCKS.
---Halvor
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I've had some fun using the danish indexes in INDUCKS to see how many pages
of Donald, Mickey, the wolves and so on were published each year of the
danish weekly, and the percentages of the total number of pages for each
year. To do this I have split the different heroes of the stories in 13
different categories, Donald and friends, Mickey and friends, the wolves,
the B-boys, brer Rabbit and friends, Chip & Dale, Grandma Duck, Gyro, Little
Hiawatha, Scamp, and the rest. Of course this may not be 100% correct,
because for instance Gyro may appear in an Donald-story, but still, the
results may tell us something.
The results show that for many years the ducks had about 40-50% of the total
number of pages. The year 1962 had only 36%. From 1985 the percentage has
increased and the highest percentage was 1999 with 70,6%.
Mickey and friends were not so much used the earliest years. In 1952 only 9%
were dedicated to him. He rapidly became more popular, with the top in 1983
with 38,2%. After that it has been downhill, and in 1999 it was only 21,2%.
The first years the wolves were second-most used with about 25%. In the
early and mid 60ies these stories bacame more seldom, but in the 70ies they
were more used again with up to 10%. Now they are not much seen, with only
1,3%.
Some other interesting facts:
In the late 80ies the Beagle-Boys were third-most used with nearly 10% in
1986.
Brer Rabbit are now nearly never seen with only 0,1% in 1999.
Chip&Dale were most popular in the late 50ies and early 60ies with 8,7% in
1961. In 1999 there were none stories published.
In 1951 and 1952 Grandma Duck were third-most used with nearly 20% in 1952.
In 1999 it was only 1,1%
Gyro were most popular in the early and mid 60ies with top in 1966 with
9,4%.
Little Hiawatha were most popular in 1953 to 1955 with about 8% these years.
In 1999 it was 0,2%.
Scamp had his top in 1961 with nearly 9%. This put him on 3rd posistion this
year. Now he's nearly never seen.
Moby Duck had 4,2% in 1969. In the last 20 years he's very little used.
Other stories were most common in the 50ies and early 90ies. They include
Bongo, Pinocchio, Snow White and 7 dwarfs, Basil, Aristocats, Dumbo and some
other.
If anyone wants more details regarding this subject, please contact me. I
can also find such results for other coutries that are reasonably updated in
INDUCKS.
---Halvor
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Picsou Magazine 338
Message 123 -
2000-03-18 at 15:54:58
Hello,
lascif wrote:
> Clearly, a luxurious issue of PM.
Clearly I'd love to put my hands on such an issue, anyone on the
list who wants to exchange PM337 with some Italian stuff (or with
money)? Zio Paperone #126 just hit the stands... (hint, hint...)
- Paolo
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lascif wrote:
> Clearly, a luxurious issue of PM.
Clearly I'd love to put my hands on such an issue, anyone on the
list who wants to exchange PM337 with some Italian stuff (or with
money)? Zio Paperone #126 just hit the stands... (hint, hint...)
- Paolo
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Vainio Jyrki
Rosa book prices in Finland
Message 124 -
2000-03-18 at 20:17:29
> I got these prices from the biggest and best second hand shop of Tampere.
Ah! I think I know the place. And for my part I wouldn't take their prices
as the average guideline. Having toured their stands at various book fairs
I've been just AMAZED by the prices they put on some of the stuff. True,
they have lots of hard-to-find items but generally at 2-3 times the price
I would expect to pay for them.
I guess some buyers are willing to pay even this much extra for the easy
availability of out-of-print books. I saw one guy cough up the requested
300 FIM ($ 50) for an OP Corto Maltese book without blinking an eye. I on
the other hand blinked quite a lot. With patience you probably would be
able to find even that book at some second-hand bookshop for a fraction of
that sum. I know I did.
And as for the "Kadonneen kirjaston vartijat" book, there are still plenty
of NEW copies around for the original price if you bother to look a bit
further that the big cities in the south. For example, in Rovaniemi where
I currently live (at the Arctic Circle) the book is easily available.
---Jyrki Vainio, (Northern) Finland
Ah! I think I know the place. And for my part I wouldn't take their prices
as the average guideline. Having toured their stands at various book fairs
I've been just AMAZED by the prices they put on some of the stuff. True,
they have lots of hard-to-find items but generally at 2-3 times the price
I would expect to pay for them.
I guess some buyers are willing to pay even this much extra for the easy
availability of out-of-print books. I saw one guy cough up the requested
300 FIM ($ 50) for an OP Corto Maltese book without blinking an eye. I on
the other hand blinked quite a lot. With patience you probably would be
able to find even that book at some second-hand bookshop for a fraction of
that sum. I know I did.
And as for the "Kadonneen kirjaston vartijat" book, there are still plenty
of NEW copies around for the original price if you bother to look a bit
further that the big cities in the south. For example, in Rovaniemi where
I currently live (at the Arctic Circle) the book is easily available.
---Jyrki Vainio, (Northern) Finland
Rich
WonderCon 2000 & Don Rosa?
Message 125 -
2000-03-19 at 09:24:09
Anyone going? Don, or someone who knows, will you be there all three days
or only specific hours on a given day? The fliers I have only provide the
NAMES of attending creators, but doesn't give their appearance schedules.
Could you please tell us when you will be there so we can have a chance to
meet you? I can only attend ONE day for just a few hours at best, so I'd
like to choose the best time to be there (preferrably when you are and other
Disney comics fans might be as well).
Thanks Rich
or only specific hours on a given day? The fliers I have only provide the
NAMES of attending creators, but doesn't give their appearance schedules.
Could you please tell us when you will be there so we can have a chance to
meet you? I can only attend ONE day for just a few hours at best, so I'd
like to choose the best time to be there (preferrably when you are and other
Disney comics fans might be as well).
Thanks Rich
Alexgoe
The Ducks are taking over
Message 126 -
2000-03-19 at 11:21:51
Hi!
First thanks to Halvor for your interesting facts. I compared them with some
German "Donald Duck" issues (published 1974-1998). In the 70ies and 80ies
there were lots of stories of the Beagle Boys, Chip'n Dale and the wolves. In
the
90ies there weren't much of these figures (if not to say nearly none...) SoI
can
confirm your statistics for this issue....
> The results show that for many years the ducks had about 40-50% of the total
> number of pages. The year 1962 had only 36%. From 1985 the percentage has
> increased and the highest percentage was 1999 with 70,6%.
> Mickey and friends were not so much used the earliest years. In 1952 only 9%
> were dedicated to him. He rapidly became more popular, with the top in 1983
> with 38,2%. After that it has been downhill, and in 1999 it was only 21,2%.
While reading some new "Lustige Taschenbuecher" I noticed that there's
only one story of Mickey published per isssue. Normally there are 7 to 8
stories a issue. In our two Y2K-jubilee issues (includes 13 stories) there
were also only one Mickey-story per issue, all other are about the Ducks.
So I must increase your statistic... at least for the LTB...
Maybe Mickey isn't so requested any more like he was years ago. So I'd
like to ask other members of the mailing list if this is in other countries
so, too. Does anybody know something about this?
> If anyone wants more details regarding this subject, please contact me. I
> can also find such results for other coutries that are reasonably updated in
> INDUCKS.
Maybe you could do this with the German weekly, the Micky Maus
Magazin ? I'd be interested in these results because I don't have old
issues of the mag...
Greetings,
Alex Goerig
First thanks to Halvor for your interesting facts. I compared them with some
German "Donald Duck" issues (published 1974-1998). In the 70ies and 80ies
there were lots of stories of the Beagle Boys, Chip'n Dale and the wolves. In
the
90ies there weren't much of these figures (if not to say nearly none...) SoI
can
confirm your statistics for this issue....
> The results show that for many years the ducks had about 40-50% of the total
> number of pages. The year 1962 had only 36%. From 1985 the percentage has
> increased and the highest percentage was 1999 with 70,6%.
> Mickey and friends were not so much used the earliest years. In 1952 only 9%
> were dedicated to him. He rapidly became more popular, with the top in 1983
> with 38,2%. After that it has been downhill, and in 1999 it was only 21,2%.
While reading some new "Lustige Taschenbuecher" I noticed that there's
only one story of Mickey published per isssue. Normally there are 7 to 8
stories a issue. In our two Y2K-jubilee issues (includes 13 stories) there
were also only one Mickey-story per issue, all other are about the Ducks.
So I must increase your statistic... at least for the LTB...
Maybe Mickey isn't so requested any more like he was years ago. So I'd
like to ask other members of the mailing list if this is in other countries
so, too. Does anybody know something about this?
> If anyone wants more details regarding this subject, please contact me. I
> can also find such results for other coutries that are reasonably updated in
> INDUCKS.
Maybe you could do this with the German weekly, the Micky Maus
Magazin ? I'd be interested in these results because I don't have old
issues of the mag...
Greetings,
Alex Goerig
Arie Fachrisal
Ducks, mice, and me....???
Message 127 -
2000-03-19 at 17:20:37
Hi all,
Just watched Stuart Little last week. i wander maybe this is a perfect
example of how can the ducks fit in our real
world?..................hmmm.......................maybe not. Cause i don't
get the idea of this Stuart condition in the movie. Is he the equal of the
kid or equal to mere mice? Which leads me to another mind-boggling question
which maybe any donaldist can answer. What is the relation between Mickey
and Jaq&Gus? Cousins? Long cousins? Very long relatives? Very-very long
relatives? Very-very-very long ones? Or not at all? Cause Mickey sees a cat
as a pet while Jaq&Gus sees a cat as a predator. The point is if Jaq&Gus and
Mickey are equal, then Jaq & Gus must have been two liliputian versions of
MM or maybe they were born in ten-twins resulting small body?;-)
:-)
Arie Fachrisal
Just watched Stuart Little last week. i wander maybe this is a perfect
example of how can the ducks fit in our real
world?..................hmmm.......................maybe not. Cause i don't
get the idea of this Stuart condition in the movie. Is he the equal of the
kid or equal to mere mice? Which leads me to another mind-boggling question
which maybe any donaldist can answer. What is the relation between Mickey
and Jaq&Gus? Cousins? Long cousins? Very long relatives? Very-very long
relatives? Very-very-very long ones? Or not at all? Cause Mickey sees a cat
as a pet while Jaq&Gus sees a cat as a predator. The point is if Jaq&Gus and
Mickey are equal, then Jaq & Gus must have been two liliputian versions of
MM or maybe they were born in ten-twins resulting small body?;-)
:-)
Arie Fachrisal
Arie Fachrisal
Abi_duck
Message 128 -
2000-03-19 at 17:32:23
Hi all,
just made abi_duck page(http://www.geocities.com/abi_duck/) 4 months ago. it
is still under construction but maybe anyone would like to stop by and
critize and comments a bit to cien2 at cbn.net.id ???
It is very primitive at this moment, many mistakes are shown, unmatching
colors, bad looking fonts and comments on the artists which were made by my
friend who doesn't know about the artists at all. we built this page at my
friend's house so i until now can't fix it. i gotta wait till i can get the
raw files from my friend then can i do some major repairs. Until then,
there's a little scanned stories. Hope you all like em though i think i
scanned stories that everybody has seen or own, still just check em out.
Please let me know what you think about the page, thank you very much for
everybody's attention,
Arie Fachrisal
just made abi_duck page(http://www.geocities.com/abi_duck/) 4 months ago. it
is still under construction but maybe anyone would like to stop by and
critize and comments a bit to cien2 at cbn.net.id ???
It is very primitive at this moment, many mistakes are shown, unmatching
colors, bad looking fonts and comments on the artists which were made by my
friend who doesn't know about the artists at all. we built this page at my
friend's house so i until now can't fix it. i gotta wait till i can get the
raw files from my friend then can i do some major repairs. Until then,
there's a little scanned stories. Hope you all like em though i think i
scanned stories that everybody has seen or own, still just check em out.
Please let me know what you think about the page, thank you very much for
everybody's attention,
Arie Fachrisal
Alexgoe
The Ducks are taking over
Message 129 -
2000-03-19 at 22:04:06
Hi!
First thanks to Halvor for your interesting facts. I compared them with some
German "Donald Duck" issues (published 1974-1998). In the 70ies and 80ies
there were lots of stories of the Beagle Boys, Chip'n Dale and the wolves. In
the
90ies there weren't much of these figures (if not to say nearly none...) SoI
can
confirm your statistics for this issue....
> The results show that for many years the ducks had about 40-50% of the total
> number of pages. The year 1962 had only 36%. From 1985 the percentage has
> increased and the highest percentage was 1999 with 70,6%.
> Mickey and friends were not so much used the earliest years. In 1952 only 9%
> were dedicated to him. He rapidly became more popular, with the top in 1983
> with 38,2%. After that it has been downhill, and in 1999 it was only 21,2%.
While reading some new "Lustige Taschenbuecher" I noticed that there's
only one story of Mickey published per isssue. Normally there are 7 to 8
stories a issue. In our two Y2K-jubilee issues (includes 13 stories) there
were also only one Mickey-story per issue, all other are about the Ducks.
So I must increase your statistic... at least for the LTB...
Maybe Mickey isn't so requested any more like he was years ago. So I'd
like to ask other members of the mailing list if this is in other countries
so, too. Does anybody know something about this?
> If anyone wants more details regarding this subject, please contact me. I
> can also find such results for other coutries that are reasonably updated in
> INDUCKS.
Maybe you could do this with the German weekly, the Micky Maus
Magazin ? I'd be interested in these results because I don't have old
issues of the mag...
Greetings,
Alex Goerig
First thanks to Halvor for your interesting facts. I compared them with some
German "Donald Duck" issues (published 1974-1998). In the 70ies and 80ies
there were lots of stories of the Beagle Boys, Chip'n Dale and the wolves. In
the
90ies there weren't much of these figures (if not to say nearly none...) SoI
can
confirm your statistics for this issue....
> The results show that for many years the ducks had about 40-50% of the total
> number of pages. The year 1962 had only 36%. From 1985 the percentage has
> increased and the highest percentage was 1999 with 70,6%.
> Mickey and friends were not so much used the earliest years. In 1952 only 9%
> were dedicated to him. He rapidly became more popular, with the top in 1983
> with 38,2%. After that it has been downhill, and in 1999 it was only 21,2%.
While reading some new "Lustige Taschenbuecher" I noticed that there's
only one story of Mickey published per isssue. Normally there are 7 to 8
stories a issue. In our two Y2K-jubilee issues (includes 13 stories) there
were also only one Mickey-story per issue, all other are about the Ducks.
So I must increase your statistic... at least for the LTB...
Maybe Mickey isn't so requested any more like he was years ago. So I'd
like to ask other members of the mailing list if this is in other countries
so, too. Does anybody know something about this?
> If anyone wants more details regarding this subject, please contact me. I
> can also find such results for other coutries that are reasonably updated in
> INDUCKS.
Maybe you could do this with the German weekly, the Micky Maus
Magazin ? I'd be interested in these results because I don't have old
issues of the mag...
Greetings,
Alex Goerig
Juliet Violette
Picking at details
Message 130 -
2000-03-20 at 02:55:27
Is there a FAQ for this list? I should probably
read it.
I was wondering... did Carl Barks "invent" Uncle
Scrooge? and if so, was he working for Disney or
another company? I'm always surprised when I see
Scrooge in Disney things for some reason. I have
this shrine to him basically in my living room and
I think the only things actually made by Disney
are the bubble gum bank and the clock.
I guess I get a little irritated at Disney when
they (in MY eyes) misuse Scrooge. I bought my
daughter a book because it had Donald on the
cover. It turned out to be a story about Donald
Duck's birthday party. Uncle Scrooge showed up
empty handed. He said he had been robbed.
Everyone laughed at him because he was lying, he
was too cheap to buy a gift. It just went against
the whole "And he did it fair and square!" thing.
He got really mad when they accused him of lying
and even threw stuff.
Also, I never really liked the Ducktales cartoons
(do they have those in other countries?) I've
bought some for my daughter though, and they
aren't too bad really. I'm giving them a second
chance... at least they're introuducing my
daughter to my passion. :)
Sorry that this is off the comic book topic :(
Juliet Violette
Las Vegas, USA
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read it.
I was wondering... did Carl Barks "invent" Uncle
Scrooge? and if so, was he working for Disney or
another company? I'm always surprised when I see
Scrooge in Disney things for some reason. I have
this shrine to him basically in my living room and
I think the only things actually made by Disney
are the bubble gum bank and the clock.
I guess I get a little irritated at Disney when
they (in MY eyes) misuse Scrooge. I bought my
daughter a book because it had Donald on the
cover. It turned out to be a story about Donald
Duck's birthday party. Uncle Scrooge showed up
empty handed. He said he had been robbed.
Everyone laughed at him because he was lying, he
was too cheap to buy a gift. It just went against
the whole "And he did it fair and square!" thing.
He got really mad when they accused him of lying
and even threw stuff.
Also, I never really liked the Ducktales cartoons
(do they have those in other countries?) I've
bought some for my daughter though, and they
aren't too bad really. I'm giving them a second
chance... at least they're introuducing my
daughter to my passion. :)
Sorry that this is off the comic book topic :(
Juliet Violette
Las Vegas, USA
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Picking at details
Message 131 -
2000-03-20 at 08:52:46
Juliette-
> 6. (Juliet Violette)
> Is there a FAQ for this list? I should probably
> read it.
Not really a FAQ per se, there's just too many directions
this List tends to go, but...
Here's a few places you might want to start:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/hzlist.html
And be sure to check out these links to the various sites
of the knowledgable members of this Mailing List:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/pointers.html
As for the story about Scrooge and Donald's birthday,
while it seems normal, to ME that $crooge would come
presentless, it does seem odd that he would start
throwing objects. Of course, not having seen the
story you are talking about I would need to understand
the context which would cause $crooge to do such an
odd thing, otherwise I'm inclined to agree that it
is out of character.
As for DuckTales, I love both the cartoon and the
comics and wish they were still published here in
the USA! I know a lot of hardcore $crooge and Duck
fans despise Webby, Gizmoduck and Bubba the Caveduck,
and dislike the change in Flintheart Glomgold, but,
for the most part I like them. To me it was just
so cool to see my comicbook characters come to life
in cartoons!
> Sorry that this is off the comic book topic :(
Well, it was related, so I don't think it is a problem.
:-)
Rich Bellacera
> 6. (Juliet Violette)
> Is there a FAQ for this list? I should probably
> read it.
Not really a FAQ per se, there's just too many directions
this List tends to go, but...
Here's a few places you might want to start:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/hzlist.html
And be sure to check out these links to the various sites
of the knowledgable members of this Mailing List:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/pointers.html
As for the story about Scrooge and Donald's birthday,
while it seems normal, to ME that $crooge would come
presentless, it does seem odd that he would start
throwing objects. Of course, not having seen the
story you are talking about I would need to understand
the context which would cause $crooge to do such an
odd thing, otherwise I'm inclined to agree that it
is out of character.
As for DuckTales, I love both the cartoon and the
comics and wish they were still published here in
the USA! I know a lot of hardcore $crooge and Duck
fans despise Webby, Gizmoduck and Bubba the Caveduck,
and dislike the change in Flintheart Glomgold, but,
for the most part I like them. To me it was just
so cool to see my comicbook characters come to life
in cartoons!
> Sorry that this is off the comic book topic :(
Well, it was related, so I don't think it is a problem.
:-)
Rich Bellacera
Fluks, H.W.
Rosa books in Finland.
Message 132 -
2000-03-20 at 11:24:25
> From: Janne Heino [mailto:j.heino at pp2.inet.fi]
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 12:00 AM
> Rosa is hot in Finlad ... believe me or not.
But he wasn't elected for president, right? 8-)
Any idea how much votes he got?
--Harry.
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 12:00 AM
> Rosa is hot in Finlad ... believe me or not.
But he wasn't elected for president, right? 8-)
Any idea how much votes he got?
--Harry.
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Donald Duck & Co # 7 - 2000
Message 133 -
2000-03-20 at 12:47:13
Hey J?rgen,
My thanks are long overdue for the kind words you gave me about my
recent Pegleg Pete birthday story. I'm damn glad you enjoyed it - you'll
never know how I secretly burned the midnight oil, frantically trying to
finish the story after-hours and get it done by the day Byron was to start
editing it (Oops! Now you know! :-).
>Once you told me
>(jokingly) that you put the characters into the story, and then let
>their personalities run the story. It does show that this is what you've
>been doing here.
Thanks for noticing this! When plotting the story, I spent quite a while
deadlocked. The opening and climax of the story were the first parts of the
story that came to my mind, so there was no question that I knew what was
going to happen there. But the lengthy gag sequence of Pete's second
childhood - with everyone trying to teach him things - was obviously going
to be the tough part. Try as I might, it was difficult to figure out what
would really work in this segment.
Then, finally, one Sunday I sorta knew it was do or die; I forced
myself to relax totally, eating, reading, listening to music and sitting
around my flat doing nothing really active. At last, around eight o' clock,
I looked back at the outline for Page 3 of the story.
Suddenly, it was like Clarabelle - blabbermouth that she is -
started to write the story for me, offering to teach Pete how to drive and
then launching (for no particular reason at all) into a cranky speech about
how bad she thought today's drivers were.
And in about five minutes, everything sort of developed from there.
>I hope we'll see more of this.
I haven't written a lot of stories lately, but I did do a story with Mickey
versus Eli Squinch last year. It will eventually turn up. I also did a short
Cousin Fethry story that was published last week. But while I do write a
story now and then, it's right now most important that I do my duty as an
*editor* around here!
One story that I edited last summer, by the way, was Andreas Pihl's
three-parter "The Rise and Fall of Donald Duck," which he and I are both
very glad you enjoyed. The unusual panel layout and staging that you liked
so much are Andreas' own work, by the way; Mr. Colomer followed Andreas'
page layouts just about precisely, and I agree that the results came out
great!
If you want to see more of Andreas' work, by the way, cast your eyes
toward our pocketbooks. His numerous stories for it include one ("The Rehabs
of Bounty," D 97394) that pits Mickey against Sylvester Shyster for the
first time in some while.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
My thanks are long overdue for the kind words you gave me about my
recent Pegleg Pete birthday story. I'm damn glad you enjoyed it - you'll
never know how I secretly burned the midnight oil, frantically trying to
finish the story after-hours and get it done by the day Byron was to start
editing it (Oops! Now you know! :-).
>Once you told me
>(jokingly) that you put the characters into the story, and then let
>their personalities run the story. It does show that this is what you've
>been doing here.
Thanks for noticing this! When plotting the story, I spent quite a while
deadlocked. The opening and climax of the story were the first parts of the
story that came to my mind, so there was no question that I knew what was
going to happen there. But the lengthy gag sequence of Pete's second
childhood - with everyone trying to teach him things - was obviously going
to be the tough part. Try as I might, it was difficult to figure out what
would really work in this segment.
Then, finally, one Sunday I sorta knew it was do or die; I forced
myself to relax totally, eating, reading, listening to music and sitting
around my flat doing nothing really active. At last, around eight o' clock,
I looked back at the outline for Page 3 of the story.
Suddenly, it was like Clarabelle - blabbermouth that she is -
started to write the story for me, offering to teach Pete how to drive and
then launching (for no particular reason at all) into a cranky speech about
how bad she thought today's drivers were.
And in about five minutes, everything sort of developed from there.
>I hope we'll see more of this.
I haven't written a lot of stories lately, but I did do a story with Mickey
versus Eli Squinch last year. It will eventually turn up. I also did a short
Cousin Fethry story that was published last week. But while I do write a
story now and then, it's right now most important that I do my duty as an
*editor* around here!
One story that I edited last summer, by the way, was Andreas Pihl's
three-parter "The Rise and Fall of Donald Duck," which he and I are both
very glad you enjoyed. The unusual panel layout and staging that you liked
so much are Andreas' own work, by the way; Mr. Colomer followed Andreas'
page layouts just about precisely, and I agree that the results came out
great!
If you want to see more of Andreas' work, by the way, cast your eyes
toward our pocketbooks. His numerous stories for it include one ("The Rehabs
of Bounty," D 97394) that pits Mickey against Sylvester Shyster for the
first time in some while.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Don Rosa
DCML digest #118
Message 134 -
2000-03-20 at 16:07:58
From: "Arie Fachrisal"
>>>What is the relation between Mickey
and Jaq&Gus? Cousins? Long cousins? Very long relatives? Very-very long
relatives? Very-very-very long ones? Or not at all?
Not at all. Gus and Jaq are mice, Mickey is a human. Sooner you should
worry about creatures who live their lives in close proximity to one
another, like Goofy and Pluto, or Grandma Duck and the ducks waddling
around in her barnyard. What's that all about?
But what's more amusing to do, and which we've done on here from time to
time, is try to count the number of different types of characters there are
in Disney comics. An incomplete list would include normal animals (the
squirrels in the background trees, the fish in the water), normal animals
that have high intelligence (Pluto), normal animals with super-intelligence
and the ability to think and speak, at least to other animals (Chip n'
Dale, Scamp), animals who wear clothes and live in houses but otherwise act
like normal animals and eat each other (Big Bad Wolf, 3 Pigs), characters
drawn in some ways as animals but which are clearly otherwise completely
human (Donald, Mickey, etc.), Barksian Duckburg people that are totally
human but grudgingly given round black noses on an otherwise completely
human body to satisfy ancient style-book customs, and normal humans with
normal noses. And there are more categories in between all those -- I
recall someone once came up with about 15 or so, perhaps also counting the
animation characters.
From: Rich <xephyr at jps.net>
Subject: WonderCon 2000 & Don Rosa?
>>>Anyone going? Don, or someone who knows, will you be there all three
days
or only specific hours on a given day?
I will be there on all 3 days.
Let's tell them what we're talking about. WonderCon is a comic-convention
in Oakland, California (near SF) on April 7-9.
From: Juliet Violette
>>>I was wondering... did Carl Barks "invent" Uncle
Scrooge? and if so, was he working for Disney or
another company?
He did create $crooge while working for the Dell/Western publishing
company. And everything that appears in a Disney licensed comic
automatically is Disney property, not that of the creator or publisher.
That's why Carl Barks is not the wealthiest cartoonist in the history of
the universe. (But he's done okay in the last 20 years with paintings and
lithographs and such, we're happy to know!)
>>> I have
this shrine to him basically in my living room and
I think the only things actually made by Disney
are the bubble gum bank and the clock.
I know the bank and I'm not sure about the clock, but neither were made by
Disney. They don't make stuff, they collect the fees from the companies
that do. Actually, I think the only items actually made BY a company owned
by Disney are some modern-day "collectibles" like the "Walt Disney Classics
Collection" "limited edition" figurines or the beanie @#%&* babies at the
Di$ney $tores... but I really don't pay attention to that type stuff. I'm a
collector of real, honest toys made for normal humans with or without round
black noses... stuff not associated with those
"edition-limited-to-the-maximum-number-we-estimate-we-can-get-people-to-buy
collectibles" rackets. I like the stuff that when they stop making them
because they can't sell any more, they don't say the item is "retired and
the molds broken, soon to be hothothot", they say they stopped making them
because they can't sell anymore. Those were the days.
From: "Fluks, H.W."
> Rosa is hot in Finland ... believe me or not.
>>>But he wasn't elected for president, right? 8-)
Any idea how much votes he got?
I've tried checking on that with no luck. I know I got lots of votes in
their usual crackpot-write-in category where AKU ANKKA (Donald) always does
so well. But they tell me that for the first time the government did not
release the vote-results of the write-in silly-walk candidates. Was that a
coincidence? Or did I get so many votes while being an *actual* human being
that they were embarrassed by it? Or maybe it bothered someone that I was
asked about my being a presidential candidate in all the interviews I did
there in Finland when I visited. Oh, well.... I didn't want to move to
Finland, anyway.... I just planted some asparagus.
>>>What is the relation between Mickey
and Jaq&Gus? Cousins? Long cousins? Very long relatives? Very-very long
relatives? Very-very-very long ones? Or not at all?
Not at all. Gus and Jaq are mice, Mickey is a human. Sooner you should
worry about creatures who live their lives in close proximity to one
another, like Goofy and Pluto, or Grandma Duck and the ducks waddling
around in her barnyard. What's that all about?
But what's more amusing to do, and which we've done on here from time to
time, is try to count the number of different types of characters there are
in Disney comics. An incomplete list would include normal animals (the
squirrels in the background trees, the fish in the water), normal animals
that have high intelligence (Pluto), normal animals with super-intelligence
and the ability to think and speak, at least to other animals (Chip n'
Dale, Scamp), animals who wear clothes and live in houses but otherwise act
like normal animals and eat each other (Big Bad Wolf, 3 Pigs), characters
drawn in some ways as animals but which are clearly otherwise completely
human (Donald, Mickey, etc.), Barksian Duckburg people that are totally
human but grudgingly given round black noses on an otherwise completely
human body to satisfy ancient style-book customs, and normal humans with
normal noses. And there are more categories in between all those -- I
recall someone once came up with about 15 or so, perhaps also counting the
animation characters.
From: Rich <xephyr at jps.net>
Subject: WonderCon 2000 & Don Rosa?
>>>Anyone going? Don, or someone who knows, will you be there all three
days
or only specific hours on a given day?
I will be there on all 3 days.
Let's tell them what we're talking about. WonderCon is a comic-convention
in Oakland, California (near SF) on April 7-9.
From: Juliet Violette
>>>I was wondering... did Carl Barks "invent" Uncle
Scrooge? and if so, was he working for Disney or
another company?
He did create $crooge while working for the Dell/Western publishing
company. And everything that appears in a Disney licensed comic
automatically is Disney property, not that of the creator or publisher.
That's why Carl Barks is not the wealthiest cartoonist in the history of
the universe. (But he's done okay in the last 20 years with paintings and
lithographs and such, we're happy to know!)
>>> I have
this shrine to him basically in my living room and
I think the only things actually made by Disney
are the bubble gum bank and the clock.
I know the bank and I'm not sure about the clock, but neither were made by
Disney. They don't make stuff, they collect the fees from the companies
that do. Actually, I think the only items actually made BY a company owned
by Disney are some modern-day "collectibles" like the "Walt Disney Classics
Collection" "limited edition" figurines or the beanie @#%&* babies at the
Di$ney $tores... but I really don't pay attention to that type stuff. I'm a
collector of real, honest toys made for normal humans with or without round
black noses... stuff not associated with those
"edition-limited-to-the-maximum-number-we-estimate-we-can-get-people-to-buy
collectibles" rackets. I like the stuff that when they stop making them
because they can't sell any more, they don't say the item is "retired and
the molds broken, soon to be hothothot", they say they stopped making them
because they can't sell anymore. Those were the days.
From: "Fluks, H.W."
> Rosa is hot in Finland ... believe me or not.
>>>But he wasn't elected for president, right? 8-)
Any idea how much votes he got?
I've tried checking on that with no luck. I know I got lots of votes in
their usual crackpot-write-in category where AKU ANKKA (Donald) always does
so well. But they tell me that for the first time the government did not
release the vote-results of the write-in silly-walk candidates. Was that a
coincidence? Or did I get so many votes while being an *actual* human being
that they were embarrassed by it? Or maybe it bothered someone that I was
asked about my being a presidential candidate in all the interviews I did
there in Finland when I visited. Oh, well.... I didn't want to move to
Finland, anyway.... I just planted some asparagus.
Arie Fachrisal
DCML digest, Vol 1 #118 - 8 msgs
Message 135 -
2000-03-20 at 20:14:25
> From: Alexgoe at aol.com
> Maybe Mickey isn't so requested any more like he was years ago. So I'd
> like to ask other members of the mailing list if this is in other
countries
> so, too. Does anybody know something about this?
i am bored reading most MM stories cause of his perfection. i remember a MM
story by Gottfredson where MM must get several cameras to check for hidden
things??? and he actually swipe a camera from a little girl, now that's
revolting, it aint somethin i see everyday. Most Mm stories are just too
boring and cliche with guessable endings (except for good works from Floyd
and Murry). In my country people also prefers the ducks than the mice.
> From: Juliet Violette <julietv at email.com>
> I was wondering... did Carl Barks "invent" Uncle
> Scrooge? and if so, was he working for Disney or
> another company?
Yep, when he was working for Western Publishing if i'm not mistaken.
I'm always surprised when I see
> Scrooge in Disney things for some reason. I have
> this shrine to him basically in my living room and
"shrine"???
> Also, I never really liked the Ducktales cartoons
> (do they have those in other countries?)
Ugh, i don;t like that series also. it was aired here in my country few
years ago.
About the ducks takin over
Not that i against it. it's just that shameful isn't it to let other
potential characters met their declining starring stories because of the
ducks are taking over. As much as i love the ducks, a stroy or two of
Panchito, Bad Wolf, Carioca, or Brer always amuse me and give something
fresh. Heck, i dont know if i'm the only one but i do think the ducks have
been exploited too many times by now that only one tenth of the recent
stories really packed something new and wonderful. The others are mostly
cliched stories and slow-paced, guessable plot, sorry for saying this but an
honest fan is certainly legal or politically correct, right?
What i'm trying to say is give the ducks a break. There are still many
characters left for development. MM is waiting for *that* talent that will
bring him once again as the true highlight of Disney. And i'm not satisfied
with recent Brer stories, too. The classic ones are too dang good. What of
Goffy? i've seen Super Goffy, Goffy one-page gags, and others, and they are
nicely done especially the one-pager. Where are the new stories?
Best,
Arie Fachrisal
> Maybe Mickey isn't so requested any more like he was years ago. So I'd
> like to ask other members of the mailing list if this is in other
countries
> so, too. Does anybody know something about this?
i am bored reading most MM stories cause of his perfection. i remember a MM
story by Gottfredson where MM must get several cameras to check for hidden
things??? and he actually swipe a camera from a little girl, now that's
revolting, it aint somethin i see everyday. Most Mm stories are just too
boring and cliche with guessable endings (except for good works from Floyd
and Murry). In my country people also prefers the ducks than the mice.
> From: Juliet Violette <julietv at email.com>
> I was wondering... did Carl Barks "invent" Uncle
> Scrooge? and if so, was he working for Disney or
> another company?
Yep, when he was working for Western Publishing if i'm not mistaken.
I'm always surprised when I see
> Scrooge in Disney things for some reason. I have
> this shrine to him basically in my living room and
"shrine"???
> Also, I never really liked the Ducktales cartoons
> (do they have those in other countries?)
Ugh, i don;t like that series also. it was aired here in my country few
years ago.
About the ducks takin over
Not that i against it. it's just that shameful isn't it to let other
potential characters met their declining starring stories because of the
ducks are taking over. As much as i love the ducks, a stroy or two of
Panchito, Bad Wolf, Carioca, or Brer always amuse me and give something
fresh. Heck, i dont know if i'm the only one but i do think the ducks have
been exploited too many times by now that only one tenth of the recent
stories really packed something new and wonderful. The others are mostly
cliched stories and slow-paced, guessable plot, sorry for saying this but an
honest fan is certainly legal or politically correct, right?
What i'm trying to say is give the ducks a break. There are still many
characters left for development. MM is waiting for *that* talent that will
bring him once again as the true highlight of Disney. And i'm not satisfied
with recent Brer stories, too. The classic ones are too dang good. What of
Goffy? i've seen Super Goffy, Goffy one-page gags, and others, and they are
nicely done especially the one-pager. Where are the new stories?
Best,
Arie Fachrisal