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Thierry Fernand
>>I have been uploading a few original 1947 Donald Duck
>>Sunday Pages by Al Taliaferro at the following site
>>http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cinema/9080/index.html
> So I think I'm not the only one anxiously waiting for
> more Taliaferro years....

A few other examples of taliaferro's works may be
uploaded,
so please check the site from time to time!

>P.S.: Why that missing date? Unavailable, Taliaferro
ill, or what?

That sunday page really was drawn by Taliaferro, and my
guess is material damage only.

There are some sunday pages that are seldom reprinted, by
the way, eg Gladstone "forgot" several Silly Symphonies
Donald pages in the "Donald Duck" comics. But in this case,
I think that once again this was only a material problem.

One that (apparently?) *is* a problem is the Donald daily
strip of March 3 1938.
I think that in the few recent reprints available, the text
was changed. I have never seen the original strip myself,
so I can only make guesses.
Apparently Donald is throwing a stone (?) to a person who
is not shown. I'm not sure if that person is supposed to be
of African origin in the original strip.

Maybe someone who has more information can enlighten us
on this?

Favio

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Kfitz
>I'm glad to hear that your wife has that ability. This shows that some
> whites/pinkare close to animals.

My husband and I talked to all of our cats for their entire lives. We
always talk to animals, they often make more sense than people. Too really
talk with pets/animals you can talk just like you do to people, you just
have to listen different.

-Kathy
Juliet Violette
I always have talked to animals just like they're
humans. I've even had young children ask me, "Do
you really think he can understand you?" LOL, I
guess I must sound pretty sincere.

I'm also one of those people who will find a
cricket in the bathtub, and get a glass and piece
of paper and put it outside saying, "No, no -
you're not welcome in the house, go outside." My
3 year old daughter is picking up on this and
learning respect for life, hopefully.

Juliet Violette
Las Vegas, USA

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Sschridde
Well, as to me, I store most of the comics vertically in cardboard-
boxes. I didn't make up my mind whether bags are useful or not. But
another thing concerning especially the German weekly (printed on
comparably weak paper): The issues lean towards the unstapled edge,
with the result that all issues form a bow or bracket-type something
in the lower third of the issue. Any idea as to how cope with it?

> Another storaging-related question comes to my mind: because of
> space troubles I put almost all my Topolino in horizontal piles,
> switching their back left and right every 10 issues, but I'm not
> sure it is a good solution: can anyone of you tell me if there
> are reasons to avoid this solution?
>

Soeren

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Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Earlier this afternoon I went to Don Rosa's lovely home in Louisville KY,
and I wanted to let fellow members know what I saw.

For starters I saw The 3 Cabelleros Ride Again story which should be done
soon, and looks very good. I think it'll be great to see Donald actually
interact with his friends instead of relatives. I also saw Don's studio
and *lots* of Duck toys. It was great to get an idea of how the creative
process for these great stories is done.

I also saw the "comics vault" that is sometimes referred to on this list.
Don owns by far the largest comic collection I've ever seen, with over
40,000 books. Needless to say you'll find any book that you've ever
wanted here, plus many others that you probably forgot existed.

Don asked me to write something telling you about this and I'm not sure
if this is what he wanted or not. I hope it is. I also wanted to
publicly thank him for being so hospitable with me.

Also, while there I saw an issue of PICSOU with a large pull out poster
of the Duck family tree. Don didn't have many copies of this (only one
or two?) so I couldn't very well ask for one from him. Can any list
member get a copy of this book with the poster for me? Of course I'd be
willing to trade cash or comics for it.

Thanks again for a great afternoon Don,
Rodney Bowcock

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Fluks, H.W.
Thierry (Sunday, March 12, 2000 5:00 AM):

> One that (apparently?) *is* a problem is the Donald daily
> strip of March 3 1938.
> I think that in the few recent reprints available, the text
> was changed. I have never seen the original strip myself,
> so I can only make guesses.
> Apparently Donald is throwing a stone (?) to a person who
> is not shown. I'm not sure if that person is supposed to be
> of African origin in the original strip.

Actually, this strip has been discussed here before, in 1994! (Is it *that*
long ago? Gee...)

I asked about the strip, describing the Dutch translation.
This is what David Gerstein wrote:

<<
Harry explained that "Donald is at a fair, where one can throw
3 balls for a dime to a clown ('hit the clown'). Donald throws a rock
instead of a ball, and gets dozens of balls thrown at him. The clown
is not shown in the panels; just Donald."

OOOW! I know right off the bat what must be wrong with this
one! You'd think it's the concept of throwing a rock at someone, but
Disney did permit a strip (the first one in DD 281) where Donald threw
objects at a guy down in a manhole, some of which clearly hit him in
the head (although the impact wasn't shown).

In the 1920s and 1930s, one of the most unfortunate things
about American carnivals was that they would have a booth where a man
in blackface stood with his head through a wall, the sign reading
(PLEASE: DO NOT TAKE THIS PERSONALLY) "hit the nigger." Really.
Racism was really this blatant! I wouldn't be surprised if in the
original English, this was the text that was on the sign. This is
probably why the strip was not allowed. (Could Gladstone retouch the
sign? I'd guess Disney wouldn't allow it, as they didn't allow the
letter from sister Della to be partly rewritten to make the 1st app of
HDL permissable either.)

This strip is most probably in WDC&S #2. [or #1 or #3.]
>>

This is what Don Rosa answered:

<<
DAVID:
I checked [WDC] #1, and there was the DD strip in question!
You're pretty darn slick, you little rascal! You were RIGHT!
Well, of course, no Disney comic strip even in 1939 or wotever would use
the word "nigger"; [..] But you were
close enough -- the sign on the circus sideshow booth said "AFRICAN
DODGER - 3 balls, 5 cents" The meaning is clear, eh? They didn't mean a
Boer.
>>

Your DCML archivist, 8-)
--Harry.
Don Rosa
From: "Rodney w bowcock jr."
>>>Don asked me to write something telling you about this and I'm not sure
if this is what he wanted or not.

Sure, that was fine... It's just that I frequently get requests to write
about my studio or work habits or "vault"... but I don't ever see any time
or place where such self-promotion would be appropriate. I don't have a
web-site like many do since I don't have the need or time for it and it
would only look bad to the few sour-minded people who don't realize that
limitless self-promotion, even if it succeeded in selling an extra trillion
copies of Rosa stories, does not do me an ounce of $ good in this system.
I'd still like to do it just for the Duckfans who request it and even
though there are numerous fan-sites, I still would not personally submit
such a report to them as it's just not my nature (even though the shameless
lil' egomaniac in my soul would love to see it!)
Anyway, that's why I suggested to you that you mention a little of what you
saw... but more significantly, when friend and ML member Francesco Stajano
visited here last month, we set about with the specific purpose of
preparing the material for a website-feature that would be a lengthier
report of a visit here, including many photos. If Frank has as much free
time to work on such stuff as I do, he might whip something up by the year
2009... but I hope he finds a break in his schedule eventually, and he'll
put together a lil' photo-text essay and tell us where on the WWW to view
it.
Frank Stajano
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Don Rosa wrote:

> but more significantly, when friend and ML member Francesco Stajano
> visited here last month, we set about with the specific purpose of
> preparing the material for a website-feature that would be a lengthier
> report of a visit here, including many photos. If Frank has as much free
> time to work on such stuff as I do, he might whip something up by the year
> 2009... but I hope he finds a break in his schedule eventually, and he'll
> put together a lil' photo-text essay and tell us where on the WWW to view
> it.

Don, this is the most apt description of the current state of affairs that
anyone could come up with. I can't begin to say how bad I feel for having
enjoyed the privilege of your company and hospitality (a second time,
after my 1996 visit for the book) without yet having written so much as a
line on all that you showed me.

I do hope your 2009 prediction will eventually prove to be a slight
exaggeration, but it sure feels ominously right from where I stand now...

To all, an unworthy appetiser of what's to come:

1) Look forward to the Caballeros story, and in particular to a
Donald-that-Don-doesn't-treat-like-a-worthless-idiot. But also to the
introduction of a... hmmm... "sexy" might be too much... let's say
"titillating" young lady!

2) Again on the Caballeros: a peculiar "musical" scene (you'll love
this if you're familiar with the cartoons) and one of the greatest action
panels you've seen.

3) Gyro (who's Gyro?) is too shy to be properly photographed, but I think
we got in a shot or two all the same.

4) Don cooks a great steak!

5) Never compete against him on eBay for Disneyana -- or do so at your own
risk!

6) Scoop! History! We've got a (new) photo of the man in his Captain
Kentucky outfit! Wait 'til you see that... ;-)

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms
Dan Shane
>>>>Subject: A visit with Don Rosa
From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com>

Earlier this afternoon I went to Don Rosa's lovely home in Louisville KY,
and I wanted to let fellow members know what I saw.

========================================

Because I can pay a visit to Don whenever I like, I sometimes forget how
special entering his inner sanctum really is (especially since my study and
entertainment area is growing to look more like his every day -- though on a
MUCH smaller scale). Getting an advance look at his stories in progress is
a real treat, and for now the only way we Americans can ever hope to see the
tales in a language we understand.

I've never known Don to close his doors to anyone, and I know you ahd a nice
time, Rodney. Give a little warning next time you come down, and we'll try
to get together. We have more in common than just Ducks, as I'm sure Don
has told you.

Dan Shane (homebrew at homebrew.win.net)
Bror.Hellman
Somebody here wanted to know if you could
get ahold of new Mickey Mouse comic strips.

Well, Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck dailies are
propably still distributed by King Features,
but I couldn't find any strips on-line.

Are these strips still in production?

Well, Mercury Center runs about a houndred
different comic strips on their site, among them
is - Mickey Mouse!

http://cgi.mercurycenter.com/comics/

Well, there you go...

If anyone know of anywhere else where Mickey Mouse,
Donald Duck, or some other Disney daily are published
on-line (any language at all) I would be glad if you
could share that information with us on this list..

Steamboat Willie
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Hey Thierry,

>There are some sunday pages that are seldom reprinted, by
>the way, eg Gladstone "forgot" several Silly Symphonies
>Donald pages in the "Donald Duck" comics. But in this case,
>I think that once again this was only a material problem.

Sometimes, sometimes not.
Gladstone couldn't get ZS 37/06/13, 37/07/18, or 37/08/08 because
Disney in Burbank no longer has the materials, as you guessed.
On the other hand, Disney did have the proofs to ZS 37/07/04, but
they wouldn't allow it to be reprinted (making fun of the blind).

>One that (apparently?) *is* a problem is the Donald daily
>strip of March 3 1938.
>I think that in the few recent reprints available, the text
>was changed. I have never seen the original strip myself,
>so I can only make guesses.
>Apparently Donald is throwing a stone (?) to a person who
>is not shown. I'm not sure if that person is supposed to be
>of African origin in the original strip.

Correct. The original sign says "African Dodger."
But the guy isn't shown, so why can't the sign just be changed?
Because in the USA, Disney thought the strip itself would encourage kids to
throw rocks at people. They objected to the gag as well as the text on the
sign.
However, you can still see the strip's image of Donald pitching an
object (which is changed to a baseball) - Gladstone uses it many times as
the logo for their daily strip reprints in various 1994 issues of DONALD
DUCK.

David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Falkenberg
Hi folks,

I save my comics in "comic bags" because of protection against pollution,
dust ,wetness and damage by handling. But I know this not a protection
against acid. All comic issue are made of paper with acid, so in my
opinion (with or without a comic bag) there is no protection against the
destroying by acid in a long run. But I have not seen a damage(through the
acid from the bags )at my comics in a long run by using comic bags.
If anyone has other knowledge please let me know.

with greetings

Helmut

member of D.O.N.A.L.D.
Bhc
David:

>However, you can still see the strip's image of Donald pitching an
>object (which is changed to a baseball) - Gladstone uses it many times as
>the logo for their daily strip reprints in various 1994 issues of DONALD
>DUCK.

Yes, but my personal favorite theme-of-repetition was the background photo
of several ranks of golf balls used on the cover of every Gladstone comic,
regular or album, that contained anything having to do with golf.

Gary

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Juliet Violette
Wow! A visit to Don Rosa's house! That's
awesome, thanks for sharing!

This is an open invite to Don Rosa or any Scrooge
fans in Norway (Onkel Skrue?) that come to Las
Vegas to stay with me. However, I have a one
bedroom and live in the getto where there is
gunfire and such, so you'd probably want to bring
a weapon (at least pepper spray or a stun gun...)
But I'd give up my bed and I could sleep on my
couch. In the event you do hear gunfire, the
safest place to hide is the bathtub. Ha ha. :)

Should be getting a better apartment soon...

Juliet
Las Vegas

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