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Kriton Kyrimis
ANDERS CHRISTIAN:

> Thanks to Kriton for putting the translation of the articles about
> Gladstone here.
> It makes me think that the editors are very wise and analytic.

Some times I think that they are *too* analytical. E.g., last month's
article on Gladstone's luck was over-analytical, not to mention that it
repeated things that they had already mentioned in Don's interview a few
pages earlier. Do we really need such articles that explain everything,
leaving nothing to imagination? After all, you don't see similar articles
at the end (or, heaven forbid, the beginning) of novels, explaining what
it is that you have just read!!!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"If they can use their brains, why can't we use ours?"
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Vic Pratt
Hi folks

I just wondered whether anybody knew if the MICKEY MOUSE daily strip is
syndicated online? I read DICK TRACY every day courtesy of the net, but I don't
know which syndicate does the MOUSE strip...and do they still run a DONALD DUCK
strip?

They certainly don't run either in England, though about ten years ago they ran
a weekend Mouse supplement in the Mirror newspaper, which was what first turned
me on to the original and best 30s Mickey...

Thanks

Vic
Frilans Bamse SE - HMJ
Harry wrote:
> How come we have so many Scrooges on this list? I mean, Scrooge's
> Scandinavian name is Joachim or Joakim, and we have
>
> - Joachim Stahl;
> - Joakim Gunnarsson;
> - Keno Don Rosa - where "Keno" is short for Gioacchino, the Italian form
> of
> Joakim...
[...]
> Coincidence?
>
And add to that: We are working for Egmont all three of us...
Coincidence?

Also: My full name is "Per Joakim Gunnarsson". In Scrooges first
appearence in Sweden his name was... hold your breath... "Per"!!!
Coincidence?

Guess I was born to be a Donaldist. :-)

/Per Joakim Gunnarsson
Kriton Kyrimis
RICH:

> Emil, a Gyro Gearloose villain who's
> hitherto appeared exclusively in Gyro and Duck stories

Emil Eagle has been used in MM stories by Murry (I remember one where
he had invented a boiler-shaped robot with a funnel for a nose!), and
he's often appeared in Super Goof stories as the villain. I don't know
if Barks invented or just used this character, but Emil ceased belonging
exclusively to the duck universe a long time ago.

> Finally, Don Rosa himself occasionally seems to have veered from his
> stated policy of making all his characters ducks, dogs, or occasionally pigs.
> I was recently rereading his delightful story "Oolated Luck," and who do we
> see as supporting characters but the Phishkisser Brothers,

I would think that, like Roger Rabbit, who can only do something if it
is funny, Don adheres strictly to the duck/dog/pig rule, unless veering
from it is funny.

> (And, Don, I have to know...is there really such a thing as oolated
> squiggs? I've never heard of them, and always assumed not...but it'd be just
> like you to toss in something real, especially if it had an outrageous name
> like that. Cf: Monkey's Eyebrow, Kentucky...)

After reading "Oolated Luck", I couldn't stop myself laughing at the
thought of the name "oolated squigg". However, the credit for the name
must go to Barks, who used the term as a background detail in a panel
in one of his stories (which?). As to whether it means anything, well,
of course it does; as you well know, squiggs are slippery, so they
oolate them!!!

OK, for those who relly want to know, a squigg is a crossing between a
squid and a fig. This animal is coated with a thick layer of a greasy
substance that is used in the cosmetics industry (the well-known Oil of
Oolay series of cosmetics use it as a base), oolation is the process of
extracting this oil, and yes, I'm making all this up. :-)

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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spec requires a small blonde screamer who trips and faints at the slightest
provocation."
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Don Rosa
From: RMorris306 at aol.com
>>>>Finally, Don Rosa himself occasionally seems to have veered from his
stated policy of making all his characters ducks, dogs, or occasionally
pigs.
I was recently rereading his delightful story "Oolated Luck," and who do we
see as supporting characters but the Phishkisser Brothers, who, as one
might
guess from the names, are literal fish-faces!

You thought I would have FISH-people walking the streets of Duckburg? Even
the editors who ran these comics when Disney published them would not have
done that! The Phishkisser boys were just normal Barksian dog-men, black
noses, floppy ears. They just had kissers that looked like phish, with
their big lips, glasses and hair-do.

>>>(And, Don, I have to know...is there really such a thing as oolated
squiggs? I've never heard of them, and always assumed not...

There are oolated squiggs okay, but only in Duckburg. There was a can
labelled "OOLATED SQUIGGS" showing in a cupboard that Donald is looking in
in some old Barks tale... I don't recall which one. I think there was even
a little picture of a fish on the can, indicating that a squigg is some
sort of fish prior to oolation.
Stahl, Joachim GE - EV
Subject: Harry Fluks

Believe it or not, I don't just share Scrooge's Scandinavian name, but among
my colleagues I'm also notorious for being so thrifty! As I child I loved so
save money and keep it in a casket - I must have spent days counting it. And
today I'm proud of saving money by driving to work all year long on my
rather rusty bike instead of buying a car.

Coincidence? 8-)

Joachim Stahl
Luca Boschi
Hi, Kriton and all!
>
> Emil Eagle has been used in MM stories by Murry (I remember one where
> he had invented a boiler-shaped robot with a funnel for a nose!)

Yes, true, but also other artists drew him with Mice. I remember a loong
story in the 90es' "Mickey Mouse" published by Disney (with S. De Stefano &
friends' art), and even some made in Italy stories, like a recent one,
written by G. Cordara, in which he was Super Goof's villain. The following
week he was operating in Duckburg against Uncle $crooge.

> I don't know
> if Barks invented or just used this character

He was created by Vic Lockman, and drawn by some different artists. I
remember an early version (taller, with not much feathers) by Tony Strobl,
many stories by Phil DeLara and so on. Barks NEVER used him.

Bye!
Luca
Wunderwurm
Hi Folks,

I have been offline for almost two months, but now my ISP is working again
(FINALLY). Unfortunately, I had no access to my email account, too, which
is BAD as GMX deletes all messages older than one month, so any mail that was
sent to me (wunderwurm at gmx.ch OR krustik at oldenbuerger.de, the latter being
an anonymous remailer) before Feb.6 was dumped without being noticed.
Among them was a kind offer of one of the list members (from Italy, I
presume) who offered to contribute information on printed Gottfredson sources. I
forgot who it was, and my ISP broke down before I could answer him, and now
his email is gone down the loo. Of course, his help is greatly appreciated,
and I would be glad to hear from him again.
Anyway: I have updated my Gottfredson page (see
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/index.htm ), but not (yet) with Gottfredson material, but
instead I have added a section on rare comic book stories. I have set a link to
images an old site showing the famous entire "Atom Bomb" story by Carl
Barks of 1947 (I have set up that site some years ago anonymously), and in
addition I have uploaded brand-new scans of two Wheaties premium giveaway
publications (A-2 and B-8, respectively), i.e. "Grandma Duck, Homespun Detective",
and "Donald Duck, Klondike Kid", both penciled by Riley Thomson, writers
unknown. I was lucky to obtain these rare piccolo-sized comic books a few days
ago. I now have a few other rarities, and I plan to make them publicly
accessible in not-too-distant future.

And now a plea for help: Among the rarities of the Wheaties lot there is a
copy of issue C-1 ("Donald Duck and the Inca Idol", drawn by Paul Murry),
unfortunately the back cover (including the story's last page) is missing. Is
there anyone on this list who can provide me a scan of that particular
page? A scan of 100 dpi out of the original comic book would be superb, but an
image scanned out of an Italian reprint (reprints of Wheaties premiums in
Italy are the only I know of) will do, too, of course. Thanks in advance.
BTW, direct access to the comic book rarities page is:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/rare.htm

WW

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Didier Ghez
Hi,

I heard a while ago a collector mention that he had found two magazines
published in the 40s in Palestine, in hebew, that seemed to be equivalents
of Mickey Mouse Magazine (or Le Journal de Mickey)for that region.

I know for a fact that those two magazines exist and I was wondering if by
some shere luck any member of the list would know how I could see at least
one of those (as I was never able to get the collector to show them to me).

Best.

Didier
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
RICH MORRISSEY, KRITON KYRIMIS and DON ROSA, 6 MARCH 2000:

The can with "oolated squiggs" is a background detail in panel 4.4 of the
good joe's turkey shoot story (WDC 75). This panel also shows a can of
"acme swoffs", while panel 4.2 shows a can of "Barks dog soup".

Just a thought: Very likely I try to see more in the story than actually
intended, but could Good Joe be a caricature of Carl Barks? The reason
why I saying this is that especially in panels 6.5 and 6.6, Joe looks
very much like the caricatures made of Carl Barks during his time at the
Disney Studio. An example of that could be the "You'd better go over it!"
drawing in Michael Barrier's book "Carl Barks and the Art of the Comic
Book" (1981).

In "Sherrif of Bullet Valley" (OS 199) and the Olympic tryout story (WDC
188) Barks obviously used self-caricatures, so maybe the Good Joe story
could be another instance?

Again, it's just a thought. I'm curious what others think about this.

Greetings,

--- Daniel
http://www.acciom.se/barks/index.html

"But NO!... He has REACHED the tape,
but he hasn't enough PUSH left to BREAK it!"
Wes Andersen
Vic: "I just wondered whether anybody knew if the MICKEY MOUSE daily strip is
syndicated online?"

The San Jose Mercury News's online site has a plethora of comics to choose from, including MMDaily. Go to http://www.mercurycenter.com/
and click on the comics link. You can set up your own "personalized comics" page and Mickey, Minnie, Goofy and Big Bad Pete (ooooh) will be waiting for you every morning.

-- Wes
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Anders Christian Sivebaek
Per Joakim
There certainly are some coincidences about this Joakim-name.

Kriton
> > I was recently rereading his delightful story "Oolated Luck," and
who do we
> > see as supporting characters but the Phishkisser Brothers,
That those supporting charecters are what they are is simply so
logical, and screamingly funny!

> like that. Cf: Monkey's Eyebrow, Kentucky...)
How about Yelli-babies? ;-)

Don
> There was a can
> labelled "OOLATED SQUIGGS" showing in a cupboard that Donald > is
looking in
> in some old Barks tale...
Hrmmm! There it is: The same story as the Barks Dog food, and that's...
GB 13

Now, this is a guess: Turky-story: WDC 75, on page 4 panel 2 Donald
looks in a cupboard, and panel 4 shows a can with a fish. In the danish
version it says fish soup. Is this close?
Kriton, you can check this if you want.

Joachim
Biking is healthy for you, but maybe you should buy a new bike, if the
old one is rusty (or maybe you're joking there) But there sure is some
magic in that name.

Luca about Emil
> Barks NEVER used him.
I thought so, it confused me seeing the other thing stated here.
Well, the reason why some believe that he is a barks-charecter is that
Gyro is that, and those two often compete, and Gyro almost always wins.

I have a friend who likes Emil very much. Hi Rob.

Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino

I'm glad to hear that your wife has that ability. This shows that some
whites/pinkare close to animals. And I'm sad that I can't myself talk
to my rabbit. (She would tell me that the illness next to hear left eye
is iritating)

> In my opinion the best in Yakari is the design of the pages!
I see.
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Welcome to Michal Rolink

Kriton

I'm sorry that the articles in Komix may be too analytical and maybe
repeating themselves

> Do we really need such articles that explain everything,
> leaving nothing to imagination?
I wouldn't say. On the other hand I like the articles in Komix, Picsou
and Gladstone comics better than I like the articles in the dansih
weekly.
The ones in danish may be shortened from the original and as I said
before the references seem to be removed.
I wont go so far as to caling the editor evil (that can hit back at a
place like this I heard), but what he/she does when removing the ref's
is iritating. I don't know if that editor also tranlates or if that's
the job of the actual translator (who's been there since 1992 and does
some brilliant Rosa-translations from time to time)

> After all, you don't see similar articles
> at the end (or, heaven forbid, the beginning) of novels, explaining >
> what it is that you have just read!!!
That is not impossible. In my english edition of the Brave new world by
Huxley, which is unfortunately an editon for educational use, there is
a big analysis of the novel...
Anders Christian Sivebaek
J?rgen

> Then comes a one-page article about Donald and money - of the Erik >
H?rthe
> kind. And there are references to the stories from which the
> illustrations are taken.
In the danish edition of this, the references are to WDC-comics... not
the danish publications. I certainly hope yours are to DD-comics...

> I also checked some earlier articles of this kind, and they
> also had references.
Of course

> Maybe they are removed in Sweden and Denmark?
I don't know about Sweden, but for some reason they are sometimes, and
only sometimes removed. At other times the ref's have been perfect.
Sometimes there's been one ref. missing...

AC
Fernando Ventura
I like to ask to all the members from the list how you conserve yours
comics? I have more or less 2000 Disney comics and i'm troubled about
conserve it. What you do?

OOOps! It is a off-topic theme! I'm sorry...

Fernando Ventura
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