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I think MM is a bad publishing.
The feeling of story don't respect Disney's filosophy.

I WANT ROMANO AND FLOYD !

Apostolis wrote:

> Also, I would like to upload the "Donald's Marriage" story in my page
> but I don't have the links to your page. Where can I find that particular
> story?

I uploaded it in 4 parts:

- 1st part can be found at:

http://members.forez.com/alfredsirven/index.html

- 2nd and 3rd parts were uploaded a month ago (already
deleted now). I don't know if somebody get them.
I can upload them again if you can't find them.

- Last part is still at:

http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/b_fethry/

>I scanned the Don Rosa's "The Curse of Nostrildamus" story and I'll upload
>it today. Take a look at "Don Rosa's Library" Section of my page.
>Also, I'm going to scan stories like "His Magesty Mc Duck" (Don Rosa)

Great! :-)

ALL:

Don Rosa's "Quest for Kalevala" has been published in
October issue (# 423) of Brazilian "Tio Patinhas"
(3 part version). Unhappily in Abril Jovem's ridicule "small format"
(13 x 19 cm) and scan resolution just acceptable :-(

Well, since Don's stories are rare over here, it's welcome
anyway.

Tchau,
-- Arthur.

> From: Fabio Rossi [mailto:fabio5.rossi at telecomitalia.it]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:11 PM

> I WANT ROMANO AND FLOYD !

I just read a Giorgio story, and he is not bad either! 8-)

--Harry.
(Balm? Gladstone? Reeves? Wiegman? - no: Fluks.)

Yes! Kalevala is finally published in Brazil and came to the newstands
today! Really great history! Unfortunatelly without the
extra-"funny"page...and it received a brazilian cover, probably draw by
Euclides Miyaura! It's the second Rosa history published here this year, I
think, the other is "Escape from Forbidden Valley". So maybe we, brazilians,
will see more and more Rosa's comics! GREAT! I can't wait for "The Three
Caballeros Rides Again"... :)

The brazilian name is "Em Busca de Kalevala".

"Cory Crivari and Fernando Ventura asked about Carson Van Ostens kit for
comic strip artists.

It was published in Walt Disneys Comics and Stories #607, Gladstone, series
II.
(Even if they didn't mention Carsons name...)

/Joakim Gunnarsson."

Thanks Joakim! Hum...Any more details about it?

Many thanks,
Fernando!

From: Apostolis Trikourakis
>The permission is a problem for all us who want to
>make a page with our favourite topic. I don't
>scanning stories for getting money. I'll never pay
>for that, and I don't want either. I'm scanning
>stories, I'm spending time and money for my Internet
>connection and I will never take my time and my money
>back. I'm doing all that because I love Disney
>stories and I want all of us to have a chance to read
>some very nice stories. Do you want for all us to
>shut down our pages because of a stupid law which
>saying that only the company have the copyrights?

Well said.

Thanks and God bless,

F.A. Elliott.

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A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)

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From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>

> But the Barks and Rosa stories are still available from everywhere in the
> world. With your scans on the Web, people don't need to buy (for instance)
> the Gladstone comics. So you are in fact stealing money from these
companies
> (without gaining any money yourself).

And isn't that what the companies do to the Authors? ;-) (with the big
difference that they do gain money themselves)

--
Sprea

I have a very simple philosophy in regards to what I am willing to upload onto the net: Am I depriving a living creator of any financial reward by posting their creation on the net? If the answer is yes, I won't post it. In other words, if I post a comic story, am I
making it so that someone does not have to buy that story to read it? For this reason, I would never scan and post a "Bone" story by Jeff Smith. If you want to read a full Bone story, you can buy the comic. The money goes to Mr. Smith and he deserves it.

I personally do not put corporations in the category of "creator". The corporation may legally own the characters, and could certainly stop someone from illegally profiting from them, but the corporation does not earn my loyalty and respect. I save that for the person who
sweats over his drawing table. Furthermore, Disney, especially, I think, is one of the biggest violators of the spirit of copyright law in the history of media. As Don Rosa has pointed out numerous times to this list, he creates (and gets paid for) a story ONCE, then
Disney takes that story and uses it in its media machinery all across the world without further remuneration to the him, the creator. You post a foreign Don Rosa story here, and you don't cost Don Rosa a cent. I frankly don't care what it "costs" the Disney corporation.
If Disney treated its creators better, I might feel differently.

On a related note, I think we are on the verge of an information revolution. I've seen it coming ever since I started to think about the true information-sharing power of the internet. The bottom line is that greedy corporations, or anyone else, have little power to
stop us from doing whatever we want in this new on-line world, right or wrong.

And is it wrong? I think the concept of "ownership" is considerably more blurred than Disney would have us believe. As an example, take the paintings of Carl Barks. Yes they contain characters to which Disney holds the copyright. But in some sense, doesn't "art" belong
to the world and everyone in it? Could the curators of the Louvre copyright the image of the Mona Lisa and make everyone on the internet stop using it? Could they force everyone in the world who wants to see a reproduction of the image pay for the privilege? No, I don't
think so. I'm in the process of building a website which showcases the paintings of Carl Barks, just as another might build a website devoted to the works of Leonardo. These images do not belong to Disney, they belong to all of us. There is beauty in those images, and a
playful tranformative power in the juxtaposition of cartoon characters and realistic renderings. Carl is the one who spent weeks of time and buckets of sweat turning an empty sheet of masonite into a work of art, not Disney. I owe it to Carl to see to it that his work is
seen and enjoyed by anyone who wants to. I owe Disney very little. The internet is going to make Disney's rantings to the contrary, moot.