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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
Fellow Quackeroos:

Here's what appeared in the stands in the past couple of weeks:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1830, August 10, 2001
a) "Alla ricerca della pietra zodiacale: Spectrus" (part 8), from "Topolino" #1787, 1990 (28 pages). Script: Bruno Sarda; Art: Massimo De Vita
b) H, L & D in "La fotografia rivelatrice", from "Topolino" #2333, 2000 (26 pages). Script: Carlo Panaro; Art: Marco Mazzarello
c) Mickey Mouse in "Clarapatra", S-75206 (12 pages). Script & story: the Disney Studio
d) The Beagle Boys in "Primo premio", from "Topolino" #2292, 1999 (8 pages).

2) MIKY MAOUS #1831, August 17, 2001
a) "Alla ricerca della pietra zodiacale: sotto il cielo dei tropici", (part 9), from "Topolino" #1788, 1990 (30 pages). Script: Bruno Sarda; Art: Franco Valussi
b) Black Pete in "La rapina a ogni costo", from "Topolino" #2256, 1999 (21 pages). Script: Nino Russo; Art: Giuseppe Della Santa
c) Donald Duck in "The immigrant" (13 pages). Story code & creators unknown.
d) The Beagle Boys in "Sotto pressione", from "Topolino" #2279, 1999 (10 pages). Script: Francesco Artibani & Tito Faraci; Art: Silvio Camboni

3) KLASIKA #168, August/September 2001
a) Uncle Scrooge in "Il tuffo nel black-hole", from "Topolino" #1327-1328, 1981 (56 pages in 2 parts). Script: Giorgio Pezzin; Art: Guido Scala
b) Mickey Mouse in "Il triangolo delle Bermude", from "Topolino" #1128-1129, 1977 (57 pages in 2 parts). Script: Alfredo Castelli; Art: Massimo De Vita
c) Donald Duck in "La sacca dello sceicco", from "Topolino" #747, 1970 (36 pages). Script: Abramo Barosso; Art: Giulio Chierchini

In closing, let me unite my voice with the one of Kriton's in expressing my discontent and discomfort in seeing Aragones in KOMIX. I wonder if the people of KOMIX, dizzied by its success, are trying to turn it into a generic magazine. If so, they should remove "Disney's" from their title and just have KOMIX. I was also flabbergasted to read Don's earlier comments that Aragones himself had no idea that his comic was going to appear in a Greek Disney comic-book.

Cheers,

Archontis
Kriton Kyrimis
ARCHONTIS:

> 3) KLASIKA #168, August/September 2001

Believe it or not, I bought this isue at half price in a used book
store in Athens, while the magazine was still current in Thessaloniki,
available at full price!

> In closing, let me unite my voice with the one of Kriton's in expressing =
> my discontent and discomfort in seeing Aragones in KOMIX. I wonder if =
> the people of KOMIX, dizzied by its success, are trying to turn it into =
> a generic magazine.

Something tells me that unless we write to them to express our discontent,
they are going to get the impression that all their readers are happy
with the change.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Mike Pohjola
I felt this might interest members of this mailing list. I know Disney
offers a contract not much different from this one, but I don't think we
want it to spread...

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> This is from James Kochalka:
>
> Could you forward this to all our pals?
>
> Five minutes ago, my strip was just dumped by my local newspaper.
>
> For the past several years my Magic Boy strip has been running as
> a weekly in my local Vermont daily Gannett owned paper, The Burlington
> Free Press. It has also run as a monthly in VICE magazine. The strips
> are taken from my diary, the first volume of which was published this
> spring from Top Shelf under the title The Sketchbook Diaries. The book
> was recently nominated for an Ignatz award for "Best Comic".
>
> I think my diary strips are the best work that I've ever done, but
> regardless of their quality a horrible wrong was just done to me. The
> REASON I was fired, is because I refused to sign a WORK FOR HIRE
> CONTRACT.
>
> They said they needed me to sign the contract to get around "a
> loophole in copyright law" that would keep them from exploiting my work
> on the web. I said "but a work for hire contract means that the Free
> Press would be the legal author and artist of my strip." They responded
> "No, it doesn't."
>
> Uh... YES it does! If I signed the contract they could make a full
> length Magic Boy feature film and give me nothing!
>
> The Free Press said that all their freelancers have to sign it.
> "But you don't ask all the other cartoonists in your paper to sign
> them. The guy who draws Buckles doesn't have to sign a work for hire
> contract with the Free Press," I countered. They responded "But those
> strips are syndicated." "But my strip is SELF-syndicated" I tried to
> explain. They said there was no such thing as a self-syndicated strip.
>
> So, I refused to sign the ridiculously unfair work for hire
> contract, and they dumped my strip. I don't make much money, so this is
> actually a pretty significant financial blow to me.
>
> So, I'm asking for your kind assistance. Please, if you admire my
> work, email the Free Press and tell them how much you like the Magic Boy
> strips. Or, if you don't care for my work but find the concept of the
> work for hire agreement repugnant, please email them and let them know.
>
> Their email address is: letters at bfp.burlingtonfreepress.com
>

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Don Rosa
> From: Mike Pohjola <mikep at iki.fi>
> I guess it would be unsettling in the same way as it would be to marry a
> non blood related sibling you've lived your entire life with. That
> way you would have a sibling, although you two wouldn't technically be
> related. Still, for all practical purposes, that would be a sister or a
> brother. Would it be unsettling or disgusting for you to marry that
> person?
> Would it be disgusting to marry your sibling if you didn't intend to get
> any children? Why?

I think you might believe you're trying to explain all this, but you're
only confusing me. You seem to be comparing the situation to two other
situations that it is not even remotely similar to. The brother and sister
from two different sides of a married couple did *not* grow up together and
they are *not* blood-related in any way. This whole idea seems like an
ancient superstition that causes some Europeans to regard it as abhorrent.
And even though I see no sense to it, it at least makes me decide that,
okay, I'll never have HD&L's father be Daisy's brother. I had no particular
reason to do it that way... it was just an interesting notion... but this
now is a reason *not* to do it this way. So be it

> Hehee! But you don't live in the hills, do you? Do yah?

Yes and no. I live in rural Kentucky in the hills of north-central
Kentucky. But the "Kentucky Hills" where the moonshiners and hillbillies of
the movies live (and where these legendary Kentucky sibling-marriages
supposedly take place) is generally assumed to be eastern Kentucky in the
Appalachian Mountains (which are actually just big hills , not big rock
pinnacles as the name might imply).

> (I thought Dan Shane was your nearest neighbor, but hopefully I'm
> mistaken...)

Dan Shane lives in town (Louisville) in "suburbia". About a half-hour drive
from here.
Michael Schartau
> okay, I'll never have HD&L's father be Daisy's brother. I had no particular
> reason to do it that way... it was just an interesting notion... but this
> now is a reason *not* to do it this way. So be it
>

Thank You. To my liking.

/ Michael
Søren Haagerup
Hi all duck-fans!

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Send me an e-mail, if you have any questions.

Best regards,
S?ren.
Chaz LiBretto
So anyway, anyone have any idea when we Americans can hope to see some new Duck Comics? It's been quite a few years, and frankly, I miss ya, Don Rosa. "Any Help Here Would be Hot"

- Chas

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Jeff LeRose
Does anyone have any information on Dorothy Strebe who worked at Disney
for many years. She did model and pre-model sheets for many of the early
versions of ducks (early 1930's to late 1930's, I think). I know that
Barks and her corresponded but she seems to have played an early role
that has been somewhat forgotten.
Or it just may be that I'm not aware of where to find the information on
her. Can anyone help with some information about her?
Thanks,
Jeff LeRose
WL Lilly
...Guess that queers the deal for that Disney
Universe/Woody Allen crossover , huh ? Shame .

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M. Mitchell Marmel
At 10:28 AM -0700 8/28/01, WL Lilly wrote:
>...Guess that queers the deal for that Disney
>Universe/Woody Allen crossover , huh ? Shame .

<chuckle>

-MMM-
Paolo Castagno
Hello,

In my previous posting I said that in the story "L'inferno di Topolino"
(Mickey's hell, I TL 7-A) there were some censores images of devils
cutting damned in pieces, if you want to take a look at those panels, check
at

http://digilander.iol.it/inducks/appo/inferno1.jpg
http://digilander.iol.it/inducks/appo/inferno2.jpg

Ciao,

- Paolo

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Ehi! C'e' un errore di stampa! Che vorra' dire "rhafare l'anello W"?
(Gambadilegno in I TL 206-A)
Olaf Solstrand
Today's Topics:
2. How Barks is related to the Ducks (Goofy313g at aol.com)
5. Re: DCML digest #646 (Don Rosa)

>Message: 2
>From: Goofy313g at aol.com
>Subject: How Barks is related to the Ducks
>
>Sorry, I have forgotten to speak about that in my last message.
>Instead of being Donald's father, who is Quackmore Duck, Carl Barks
>could also just be the Ducks' God!!!
>
>Gilles
>

Nah. I don't think so. The Ducks live in the real world, don't they? DON'T
THEY? So does Unca Carl. Why would they honour an "ordinary" man? My opinion
on this is that Barks is a good friend of Scrooge McDuck, and a distant
relative of Gyro Gearloose.

Message: 5
From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
Subject: Re: DCML digest #646

>>I also wanted to know (I don't remember if I asked that before..)
>who is the Quagmire McDuck, from your Family Tree. Is he just here to
>fill a blank?
>
>He was created by Barks and mentioned in the same story that gave us
>virtually all of those other ancient McDucks you see on my Family >Tree...
>"The Old Castle's Secret".

The story I remember old Quagmire from, is the story with the old family
clock. Here, it seems to me that he was pretty rich and wealthy... I don't
get it. If that's the truth, then why would his brother be a poor miner?
Because Quagmire was a cheep bastard which would not shear anything with his
own family? Doubt it, since Scrooge inherited him. On my homepage, which
will be revealed soon, I will present an edited family tree, where Fethry
and Quagmire is removed. I don't say that Quagmire don't exist, I just don't
think of him as the BROTHER of Dingus. Only as an ancient McDuck, just like
e.g. Malcolm McDuck and Hugh 'Seafoam' McDuck - they are McDucks, but we
don't know anything about them - we don't know who their parents was, we
don't know who they married, we don't know who they gave birth to -
therefor, we have not enough information to place them in a family tree.

Cheerio!

-olaf-

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Don Rosa
from: Olaf Solstrand <harryklein at hotmail.com>
>>>>The story I remember old Quagmire from, is the story with the old
family
clock. Here, it seems to me that he was pretty rich and wealthy... I don't
get it. If that's the truth, then why would his brother be a poor miner?
Because Quagmire was a cheep bastard which would not shear anything with
his
own family? Doubt it, since Scrooge inherited him. On my homepage, which
will be revealed soon, I will present an edited family tree, where Fethry
and Quagmire is removed. I don't say that Quagmire don't exist, I just
don't
think of him as the BROTHER of Dingus.

Ah! You're right! Sorry! I was confusing Quagmire with *Swamphole* McDuck
(a swamphole and a quagmire are essentially the same thing, sorta). So, in
answer to the question someone asked, I did not create Quagmire McDuck --
he came from Barks' "The Heirloom Watch" story in U$ #10.
But that's the only thing you (Olaf) are right about. Are you going by a
memory as confused as mine (concerning Quagmire/Swamphole) or did you read
a faulty translation of "The Heirloom Watch"?
The story states that Quagmire was $crooge's "great uncle" -- this means
his grandfather's brother. The exact same way that $crooge is HD&L's great
uncle, being their grandmother's brother. We can safely assume Quagmire was
$crooge's grandfather's brother rather than his grandMOTHER's brother,
because he had the ruby chip from the eye of the McDuck heirloom watch. (By
the way, I think it's allowed for your grandfather to have a brother who is
your great uncle; even in Greece, but only if you were born at the exact
same instant as your grandfather... but I digress...)
Next, why could not one brother be rich and another be poor? There could be
dozens of reasons or situations for that. However, nowhere in the "Heirloom
Watch" story is it stated that Quagmire is wealthy. Quite the contrary --
all $crooge recalls of him is that he never spent any money, and he (rather
illogically?) *hopes* that he was rich. But it's ultimately demonstrated
that he was poor since his entire estate consisted of one tiny inexpensive
ruby chip.
So, if you do a Family Tree, it will be nice to see Fethry eliminated...
but if you don't have Quagmire McDuck as the brother of $crooge's
grandfather, it will be not be correct (if you want it to agree with
"Barksian facts").
(It's fun to analyze comic books I read when I was 4 like this!)
Falkenberg
Hi fans:

To all collectors of the german Mickey Mouse magazine:

This week the weekly Micky Maus issue has as an extra a copy of
the first Micky Mouse magazine from 1951. The price of the MM is
the same and the issue appear in a golden sleeve.

Helmut
Olivier
Thanks, Anders Christian!
I wanted to answer Ola, but couldn't finding the DUCK anymore!

And thank you for the scans, Paolo. The second one is very funny.
It seems to be a Dante-like visit to the great unknown, is that it?
There was a Donald story of that kind-- I'll have to look for it;
it was published in Mickey Parade.

Best things,
Olivier
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