Olivier:
>Special Feature Introduction:
This is really nice. Thanks!
In the "notes" section there is two wersions of the first panel. The one
published in WDC has really sharp lines, as if someone had *reinked* it. Was
it remake or were original printing plates used?
Timo
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Timo Ronkainen
Whole new feature on M&D !
Message 106 -
2003-01-14 at 00:27:42
Olivier
Whole new feature on M&D ! -- sharper lines
Message 107 -
2003-01-14 at 01:45:48
Timo:
>>>> This is really nice. Thanks!
Thanks! My pleasure.
>> In the "notes" section there is two wersions of the first panel. The one
>> published in WDC has really sharp lines, as if someone had *reinked* it. Was
>> it remake or were original printing plates used?
It's just a better scan (and maybe a sharper original from which I scanned).
Here's the text undeneath the panel in WDC&S 603:
"This is the first panel of the first Mickey Mouse daily comic strip. It appears here at 88% of
its original size as drawn. Color has been added."
I have reduced the size to xx %. The actual panel in WDC&S is about 14cm * 12.5cm (5.5" * 4.92")--
which means the original art was 15.90cm * 14.20cm, ie 6.26" * 5.59". Pretty large.
I also converted it to a gray scale image-- possibly to save disk space, and probably because it
looked better (I prepared this comparison scan several months ago, so I don't remember exactly).
Now I actually compare both images, there's (at least) another difference: white eye-brow lines or
whatever-you-might-call-them around Mickey's eyes on the WDC&S image. It's not that the scanner
didn't pick it up on the other image or that it as blotted out when I resized it: there just isn't
such a line on the strip I have. Maybe it disappeared when it was published (or when it was
reprinted).
There is a larger version of this first strip on M&D's Ub Iwerks Centennial page:
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/events/ui100.html
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/tc/mdl/md3001st.gif
The white line you can see aboce Mickey's right cheek shouldn't be there actually: it must be a
white speck I didn't notice-- how ironical! I'll replace this large scan with the newer, nicer,
cleaner one I have now, and link to it in the Notes as soon as I can.
Olivier
>>>> This is really nice. Thanks!
Thanks! My pleasure.
>> In the "notes" section there is two wersions of the first panel. The one
>> published in WDC has really sharp lines, as if someone had *reinked* it. Was
>> it remake or were original printing plates used?
It's just a better scan (and maybe a sharper original from which I scanned).
Here's the text undeneath the panel in WDC&S 603:
"This is the first panel of the first Mickey Mouse daily comic strip. It appears here at 88% of
its original size as drawn. Color has been added."
I have reduced the size to xx %. The actual panel in WDC&S is about 14cm * 12.5cm (5.5" * 4.92")--
which means the original art was 15.90cm * 14.20cm, ie 6.26" * 5.59". Pretty large.
I also converted it to a gray scale image-- possibly to save disk space, and probably because it
looked better (I prepared this comparison scan several months ago, so I don't remember exactly).
Now I actually compare both images, there's (at least) another difference: white eye-brow lines or
whatever-you-might-call-them around Mickey's eyes on the WDC&S image. It's not that the scanner
didn't pick it up on the other image or that it as blotted out when I resized it: there just isn't
such a line on the strip I have. Maybe it disappeared when it was published (or when it was
reprinted).
There is a larger version of this first strip on M&D's Ub Iwerks Centennial page:
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/events/ui100.html
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/tc/mdl/md3001st.gif
The white line you can see aboce Mickey's right cheek shouldn't be there actually: it must be a
white speck I didn't notice-- how ironical! I'll replace this large scan with the newer, nicer,
cleaner one I have now, and link to it in the Notes as soon as I can.
Olivier
M. Mitchell Marmel
(OT) Norwegian Translation Help Needed!
Message 108 -
2003-01-14 at 02:53:22
Could someone please translate the phrase 'Samfunnsvitenskap og teknologiledelse' for me, please?
Many thanks!
-MMM-
Many thanks!
-MMM-
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
(OT) Norwegian Translation Help Needed!
Message 109 -
2003-01-14 at 05:08:28
M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:
> Could someone please translate the phrase 'Samfunnsvitenskap og teknologiledelse' for me, please?
'Social science and technology management'
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
> Could someone please translate the phrase 'Samfunnsvitenskap og teknologiledelse' for me, please?
'Social science and technology management'
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
Timo Ronkainen
Whole new feature on M&D ! -- sharper lines
Message 110 -
2003-01-14 at 10:31:41
>Now I actually compare both images, there's (at least) another difference:
>white eye-brow lines or
>whatever-you-might-call-them around Mickey's eyes on the WDC&S image.
That's the another detail that made me think it might be re-inked version,
made in similar fashion what Daan Jippes did with the Race to the South Seas
Barks story. Tracing the line from shabby worn-out reprint to make it look
sharper and clearer for the re-reprint. Does anyone know if this is the
case?
Timo
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>white eye-brow lines or
>whatever-you-might-call-them around Mickey's eyes on the WDC&S image.
That's the another detail that made me think it might be re-inked version,
made in similar fashion what Daan Jippes did with the Race to the South Seas
Barks story. Tracing the line from shabby worn-out reprint to make it look
sharper and clearer for the re-reprint. Does anyone know if this is the
case?
Timo
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Vic Pratt
Available in the UK?
Message 111 -
2003-01-14 at 12:07:13
Hello folks
Gary wrote:
everything
looks on schedule for the first issues to come out in
June (on the 21st
or 23rd, I can't quite remember at the moment).
Thanks for this information, Gary...do you know if the
new issues will make it to the UK this time around?
Cheerio,
VIC
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Gary wrote:
everything
looks on schedule for the first issues to come out in
June (on the 21st
or 23rd, I can't quite remember at the moment).
Thanks for this information, Gary...do you know if the
new issues will make it to the UK this time around?
Cheerio,
VIC
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Olivier
Mickey Mouse backup
Message 112 -
2003-01-14 at 12:31:47
Hi everyone!
Sorry for this new promotional message.
I have added a backup on the main site's url for the Mickey Mouse feature:
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/mmds/mmdsintro.htm
The typos have been corrected (my apologies), and I have added a "Notes Log" to keep record of the
updates.
I can't access http://bobcat74.free.fr/mmds/mmdsintro.htm ; it worked this morning (once), but since
I uploaded the corrected pages I haven't been able to visit it.
My luck must be of the Donald kind...
Best wishes & happy reading!
Olivier
Sorry for this new promotional message.
I have added a backup on the main site's url for the Mickey Mouse feature:
http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/mmds/mmdsintro.htm
The typos have been corrected (my apologies), and I have added a "Notes Log" to keep record of the
updates.
I can't access http://bobcat74.free.fr/mmds/mmdsintro.htm ; it worked this morning (once), but since
I uploaded the corrected pages I haven't been able to visit it.
My luck must be of the Donald kind...
Best wishes & happy reading!
Olivier
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Whole new feature on M&D ! -- sharper lines
Message 113 -
2003-01-14 at 13:11:54
Hey Olivier!
>>> In the "notes" section there is two wersions of the first panel. The one
>>> published in WDC has really sharp lines, as if someone had *reinked* it.
Was
>>> it remake or were original printing plates used?
>
>It's just a better scan (and maybe a sharper original from which I
scanned).
>Here's the text undeneath the panel in WDC&S 603:
The version in WDC&S 603 was reproduced from Mickey Mouse in Color,
which was reproduced directly from the original art. So that's why the lines
are so sharp.
David
>>> In the "notes" section there is two wersions of the first panel. The one
>>> published in WDC has really sharp lines, as if someone had *reinked* it.
Was
>>> it remake or were original printing plates used?
>
>It's just a better scan (and maybe a sharper original from which I
scanned).
>Here's the text undeneath the panel in WDC&S 603:
The version in WDC&S 603 was reproduced from Mickey Mouse in Color,
which was reproduced directly from the original art. So that's why the lines
are so sharp.
David
Timo Ronkainen
Whole new feature on M&D ! -- sharper lines
Message 114 -
2003-01-14 at 13:20:56
>which was reproduced directly from the original art. So that's why the
>lines
>are so sharp.
Wow, they still exists!? That's something!
Timo
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>lines
>are so sharp.
Wow, they still exists!? That's something!
Timo
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H.W.Fluks
Goofy Success vs. real Disney Shorts
Message 115 -
2003-01-14 at 22:08:27
Rob Klein wrote:
> I am sure at least one of our members will be able to [..]
> enlighten us as to where we can look to find
> information on Disney shorts.
We included a list of Disney movies in Inducks. There's a big list at
http://coa.duckburg.dk/inducks/files/_stories/movies.html
(The contents is maintained by Johannes Promann, the rather primitive page
layout is by me. Inducks is a *comics* database, and we list the movies
mainly to be able to refer to them from the comics.)
--Harry.
> I am sure at least one of our members will be able to [..]
> enlighten us as to where we can look to find
> information on Disney shorts.
We included a list of Disney movies in Inducks. There's a big list at
http://coa.duckburg.dk/inducks/files/_stories/movies.html
(The contents is maintained by Johannes Promann, the rather primitive page
layout is by me. Inducks is a *comics* database, and we list the movies
mainly to be able to refer to them from the comics.)
--Harry.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
(OT) Norwegian Translation Help Needed!
Message 116 -
2003-01-14 at 23:59:24
> M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:
>
> Could someone please translate the phrase
> 'Samfunnsvitenskap og teknologiledelse'
> for me, please?
>
> 'Social science and technology management'
As a Norwegian I can confirm that the
translation seems to be correct.
Sigvald :-)
>
> Could someone please translate the phrase
> 'Samfunnsvitenskap og teknologiledelse'
> for me, please?
>
> 'Social science and technology management'
As a Norwegian I can confirm that the
translation seems to be correct.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Another mystery solved
Message 117 -
2003-01-15 at 00:46:49
Hi all!
A few months ago I bought a Paul Murry/
Floyd Gottfredson story index. However
there was a story which I by then blieved
to be by Paul Murry, which was missing in
that index. However a I.N.D.U.C.K.S./COA
search shows that the story I was looking
for was made by another artist named
Josep Tello Gonzalez. The story is:
D 2331: MM: Peculiar Problems On Pearl Island.
This story is 8+8+8 pages just as many
Paul Murry Classics so I guess that's why
I believed that that was a Murry story as
well.
Do any of you know anything more about this
Josep Tello Gonzalez, and if he has done any
other Paul Murry like stories?
Sigvald :-)
A few months ago I bought a Paul Murry/
Floyd Gottfredson story index. However
there was a story which I by then blieved
to be by Paul Murry, which was missing in
that index. However a I.N.D.U.C.K.S./COA
search shows that the story I was looking
for was made by another artist named
Josep Tello Gonzalez. The story is:
D 2331: MM: Peculiar Problems On Pearl Island.
This story is 8+8+8 pages just as many
Paul Murry Classics so I guess that's why
I believed that that was a Murry story as
well.
Do any of you know anything more about this
Josep Tello Gonzalez, and if he has done any
other Paul Murry like stories?
Sigvald :-)
M. Mitchell Marmel
(OT) Norwegian Translation Help Needed!
Message 118 -
2003-01-15 at 01:05:58
At 10:59 PM +0100 1/14/03, Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> > Could someone please translate the phrase
>> 'Samfunnsvitenskap og teknologiledelse'
>> for me, please?
>>
>> 'Social science and technology management'
>
>As a Norwegian I can confirm that the
>translation seems to be correct.
Thanks to both of you! :D
-MMM-
> > Could someone please translate the phrase
>> 'Samfunnsvitenskap og teknologiledelse'
>> for me, please?
>>
>> 'Social science and technology management'
>
>As a Norwegian I can confirm that the
>translation seems to be correct.
Thanks to both of you! :D
-MMM-
Stefan Persson
Another mystery solved
Message 119 -
2003-01-15 at 01:27:38
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>Do any of you know anything more about this
>Josep Tello Gonzalez, and if he has done any
>other Paul Murry like stories?
>
An index of Tello's stories is available at
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/creator.php/0/JTe/1.
Stefan
>Do any of you know anything more about this
>Josep Tello Gonzalez, and if he has done any
>other Paul Murry like stories?
>
An index of Tello's stories is available at
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/creator.php/0/JTe/1.
Stefan
Søren Krarup Olesen
Another mystery solved
Message 120 -
2003-01-15 at 03:08:47
SIGVALD:
> Josep Tello Gonzalez. The story is: D 2331: MM: Peculiar Problems On
> Pearl Island. This story is 8+8+8 pages just as many Paul Murry
> Classics so I guess that's why I believed that that was a Murry story
> as well.
All D-coded stories are by Gutenberghus/Egmont, so Paul Murry had
nothing to do with them. The story D 2331 is by Tello.
> Do any of you know anything more about this Josep Tello Gonzalez, and
> if he has done any other Paul Murry like stories?
In fact Tello didn't do anything else, than following the steps of old
Murry...right down to Goofy's strangely lifted hand. If you see a
continued Mickey story in a Scandinavian weekly from the 70s or 80s, you
can be pretty sure that it was drawn by Tello and his team. The same
goes for the covers in the same period.
S?ren
> Josep Tello Gonzalez. The story is: D 2331: MM: Peculiar Problems On
> Pearl Island. This story is 8+8+8 pages just as many Paul Murry
> Classics so I guess that's why I believed that that was a Murry story
> as well.
All D-coded stories are by Gutenberghus/Egmont, so Paul Murry had
nothing to do with them. The story D 2331 is by Tello.
> Do any of you know anything more about this Josep Tello Gonzalez, and
> if he has done any other Paul Murry like stories?
In fact Tello didn't do anything else, than following the steps of old
Murry...right down to Goofy's strangely lifted hand. If you see a
continued Mickey story in a Scandinavian weekly from the 70s or 80s, you
can be pretty sure that it was drawn by Tello and his team. The same
goes for the covers in the same period.
S?ren