Keskustelujen arkisto

>and the plants in his garden sometimes spoke to him.

Huh?? I'd like to see some of these. No wonder Crumb liked this one.

>Anyhow, good job Disney didn't try and stop the genius
>of SUPER DUCK.

Yes. It's just hard to see much logic in Disney's logic with these kind of
cases. They left Super Duck alone while they attacked against Howard. Or
Swedish Arne Anka. They were both as much different from DD as Supe.

Timo

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Olivier wrote:

>Here's the original dialogue ...
>"Hm! I DO recall helping kids fix broken dolls on my last visit!

That's a statement I've always been wondering about as there is no such
scene in the original story. Or am I wrong?

Claudio

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> 1. RE: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>(Gerstein, David DK - ECN)
> 2. Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003) (Donald
>D. Markstein)
> 3. Re: US Comics?!? (Tryg Helseth)
> 4. Happy Memories Of Super Duck (Vic Pratt)
> 5. RE: US Comics?!? (H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl)
> 6. Re: Happy Memories Of Super Duck (timo ronkainen)
> 7. Unknown relatives - or just bad translation?
>(Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr.)
> 8. Re: Unknown relatives - or just bad translation? (Olivier)
> 9. Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>(SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
> 10. Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>(SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
> 11. Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>(SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
> 12. Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003) (Stefan
>Persson)
> 13. Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>(SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
> 14. Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003) (Stefan
>Persson)
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>Message: 1
>From: "Gerstein, David DK - ECN" <DGE at ECN.egmont.com>
>To: "'dcml'" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: RE: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:31:56 +0100
>
> Hey Stefan,
>
> >And do [Archie] only own the name "Super Duck" in North America?
>
> Good question. I don't know the answer.
> The name Super Duck has been used for Disney's PK in Britain as
>early as the 1970s, though, and between then and now Archie has (to the
>best
>of my knowledge) never made a legal issue of it. Maybe they can't do it now
>because they didn't do it then, or some such? Of course, I've never studied
>law.
>
> David
>
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>Message: 2
>From: "Donald D. Markstein" <ddmarkstein at cox.net>
>To: "dcml" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Cc: "Gerstein, David DK - ECN" <DGE at ECN.egmont.com>, <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>,
> "'Shad Z.'" <shadz at email.com>
>Subject: Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:34:16 -0700
>
> > And do they only own the name "Super Duck" in North America?
> >
> > Stefan
>
>As far as I know, yes - if they own it at all. (I'm not convinced Archie
>could defend its trademark on the basis of a story in the back pages of a
>digest some time in the last ten years, especially if they had to fight
>Disney for it.) But if they do, and if Disney decides to respect their
>ownership of it, they'd probably use a different name in the whole English
>speaking world, just to be consistent.
>
>Quack, Don
>
>Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary.
>http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:40:56 -0600
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>From: Tryg Helseth <tryg at statease.com>
>Subject: Re: US Comics?!?
>
>At 08:22 AM 1/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >> > I mean you talk to the Don Rosas of the
> >> > world and they say, "I want to see my stuff in English."
> >>
> >> You talk to the Harry Flukses of this world and they say "I want to see
> >> Rosa's stuff in English."
> >
> >You talk to the Don Marksteins of this world and they say, "I want to see
> >Don Rosa's stuff AND my stuff in English."
>
>Wow! With all those plural personalities you guys must have been
>successfully cloned. ;)
>
>Tryg
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:03:19 +0000 (GMT)
>From: Vic Pratt <thebeesong at yahoo.co.uk>
>Subject: Happy Memories Of Super Duck
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
>Hello folks
>
>I like many of those old SUPER DUCK comics from the
>1940s. Perhaps he was a suburban would-be Donald, but
>some of those writers gave the strip a crazy surreal
>spin completely unlike anything that ever went on in
>Duckburg.
>
>Also, he wore a rather dapper alpine-style hat with a
>feather. Surely a critical reappraisal is long
>overdue?
>
>Best wishes,
>
>VIC
>
>
>
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>Message: 5
>From: H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: RE: US Comics?!?
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:49:45 +0100
>
>Tryg:
>
> > >> > you talk to the Don Rosas of the world [..]
> > >> You talk to the Harry Flukses of this world [..]
> > >You talk to the Don Marksteins of this world [..]
>
> > Wow! With all those plural personalities you guys must have
> > been successfully cloned. ;)
>
>And we didn't even mention the H. Flukses and D. Marksteins of all the
>*other* worlds...
>
>--Harry.
>
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>Message: 6
>From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: Happy Memories Of Super Duck
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 20:21:38 +0200
>
>
> >I like many of those old SUPER DUCK comics from the
> >1940s.
>
>This was all new to me. How come Disney never took notice and tried to
>forbid this character? Or did they? I searched Super Duck on internet, and
>he looks as much Donald as Howard the Duck does.
>Strange comic.
>
>Timo
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:31:47 +0100
>From: "Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Reply-To: "Sigvald Grøsfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
>Subject: Unknown relatives - or just bad translation?
>
>Hi all!
>
>"Return to Xandu" is published twice in Norway.
>In panel 1 on page 15 Scrooge speaks to a little
>girl in Trallala. In the first edition from 1991
>Scrooge says that as a young boy in Scotland he
>used to help his *cousins* repairing their dolls.
>
>In the second edition from 2001 Scrooge says that
>he used to help his *sisters* repairing their dolls.
>
>Can anyone please tell me what's correct here?
>
>If the first is correct then those cousins must
>belong to Scrooge's mother's side (Don Rosa
>has clearly stated that Scrooge's father
>Fergus McDuck was the only of three siblings
>with a family).
>
>Sigvald :-)
>
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>Message: 8
>Reply-To: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>To: "x DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Re: Unknown relatives - or just bad translation?
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:00:22 +0100
>
>Hi!
>
>Sigvald:
>
> >>> "Return to Xandu" is published twice in Norway.
> >>> In panel 1 on page 15 Scrooge speaks to a little
> >>> girl in Trallala. In the first edition from 1991
> >>> Scrooge says that as a young boy in Scotland he
> >>> used to help his *cousins* repairing their dolls.
> >>> In the second edition from 2001 Scrooge says that
> >>> he used to help his *sisters* repairing their dolls.
>
>
>Here's the original dialogue (U$ 261, Dec '91-- time flies):
>"Hm! I DO recall helping kids fix broken dolls on my last visit! I used to
>fix my two sisters' dolls
>back home in Scotland when I was your age!"
>
>Hmm. Maybe I'll read "Xanadu" again tonight...
>
>
>Olivier
>
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:53:20 -0500
>From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>
>In a message dated 1/7/2003 10:20:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>ddmarkstein at cox.net writes:
>
> > (By the way, I always Soupie's (as his nephew Fauntleroy called him)
> > girlfriend's name, Uwanna Duck, was vaguely obscene. And if there's one
> > thing I can't stand, to dredge up a tired old joke, it's
> > vagueness.)
>
>then i am sure you liked Robert Crumb's recent SuperDuck story, wow! what
>a shocker!
>
>steven rowe
>
>Steven Rowe
>SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>
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>
>Message: 10
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:53:15 -0500
>From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>
>In a message dated 1/7/2003 10:20:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>ddmarkstein at cox.net writes:
>
> > (By the way, I always Soupie's (as his nephew Fauntleroy called him)
> > girlfriend's name, Uwanna Duck, was vaguely obscene. And if there's one
> > thing I can't stand, to dredge up a tired old joke, it's
> > vagueness.)
>
>then i am sure you liked Robert Crumb's recent SuperDuck story, wow! what
>a shocker!
>
>steven rowe
>
>Steven Rowe
>SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:55:55 -0500
>From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>
>In a message dated 1/7/2003 10:29:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>DGE at ECN.egmont.com writes:
>
> > Actually, yes. Sometime in the last ten years, a new story was done
> > for an issue of, I think, LAUGH Digest (which may or may
> > not still be
> > published now... I'm not sure).
>
> i may actually have that issue around somewhere......
>and yes LAUGH DIGEST COMICS MAGAZINE is still being published
>
>(so what or who, does SuperDuck and Mickey Mouse have in common?)
>
>
>Steven Rowe
>SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 22:58:46 +0100
>From: Stefan Persson <spe at inducks.org>
>Reply-To: dcml <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>To: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>Cc: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>
>SRoweCanoe at aol.com wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 1/7/2003 10:29:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>DGE at ECN.egmont.com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Actually, yes. Sometime in the last ten years, a new story was done
> >>for an issue of, I think, LAUGH Digest (which may or may
> >>not still be
> >>published now... I'm not sure).
> >>
> >>
> >
> > i may actually have that issue around somewhere......
> >and yes LAUGH DIGEST COMICS MAGAZINE is still being published
> >
> >(so what or who, does SuperDuck and Mickey Mouse have in common?)
> >
> >
>They're both often catching burglars?
>
>Stefan
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 13
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 17:10:38 -0500
>From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>
>In a message dated 1/7/2003 4:58:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>spe at inducks.org writes:
>
> > >(so what or who, does SuperDuck and Mickey Mouse have in
> > common?)
> > >
> > >
> > They're both often catching burglars?
>
> good guess, but not the (Archie) SuperDucks I've read!
> this is one of those trivias, that unless you know, you dont know.....
> maybe if i add: what or who do Mickey Mouse, Super Duck and BAMBI (!)
>have in common?
>
>Steven Rowe
>SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 14
>Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 23:10:59 +0100
>From: Stefan Persson <spe at inducks.org>
>Reply-To: dcml <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>To: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
>Cc: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: Disney Adventures Game Time Special (Winter 2002-2003)
>
>SRoweCanoe at aol.com wrote:
>
> > good guess, but not the (Archie) SuperDucks I've read!
> >
>Ah, sorry, I thought that you were talking about the *Disney* Super Duck.
>
>Stefan
>
>
>
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Sigvald, I use to consider clara as being a part of Barks/Rosa universe,
but each reader is free to keep or leave her : you, me, Don Rosa himself
(although this universe carries his name, i sometimes disagree with him for
some points)... It's the same for Morty and Ferdie, or Speedy, for instance
: you can choose between considering Speedy as being Donald Duck, or Morty and
Ferdie as being Donald's nephews, as Barks first wante to show, or to let them
be Morty, Ferdie and Speedy. As for Mickey Mouse : Don Rosa condider him as being
a non-existant character in his universe, while I consider him as being a Star
(according to his photography in " a little something special).
There is another character we can choose to include or not in this universe :
Barks once drew Brigitta McBridge, Scrooge's girlfriend in scarpa's stories,
on a letter... So barks considers she exists...

Gilles

In the latest issue of the Swedish Kalle Anka there is a tribute page to
Gladstone Gander but in one panel there is a kid shown with the same
curls as Gladstone and he is presented as one of Donalds nephews. If I
remember correctly he is not. He is some kind of relative to Gladstone.
The panel seems to be by Strobl. Does anyone remember who he is and
where the story was published ?

In a one page gag (by Barks I think) I remember that Scrooge reads on a
sign that someone (Washington ? ) threw a coin over this river. So
Scrooge throws a coin over the river and rows terribly fast across it
and captures his own throw. Was it Washington and why did he throw the
coin in the first place ? It seemed to be an authentic historical fact.

Thanks !

Ola in a snowy Stockholm -7 and clear, (although now it's dark at 15.30)

Oops, sorry for sending the whole Digest back. I never thought that such an
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Hello!

Gilles:
>>Mickey Parade G?ant countains a nice surprise a christmas story ( Amelia e il segreto di Babbo
Natale I
>>TL 2405-1 ) with Rosolio (Magica's "boyfriend"), Granny de Spell, and Minima de Spell
>> another funny detail : the page 5 hasn't been translated into french, si it's still italian

Funny indeed. the story's premise (asking Santa Scrooge's dime) was intriguing, but i found the
story only so-so-- just my humble opinion.

However, there's something I like and have meant to mention on the DCML for a little while: "Les
Chroniques de la Baie" (Chronicles from the Bay), by Alberto Savini (story) and Stefano Turconi
(art).
It's a series of stories starring Moby Duck and Feathry, plus a host of new characters, and set in
the little harbor of Duckport-- the technology is nineteenth-centuryish. I love this series! I
think Savini & Turconi succesfully "appropriated" Moby & Fethry and created an interesting little
universe of their own.

MP 271 also features a second Mckey adventure in a parallel universe, Dimension M. I haven't read
this second story yet-- since there are only so many stories per issue, I don't read the whole thing
at once, to make it last longer; maybe I've been reading Uncle Scrooge stories too long...
The first installment was okay. Some intriguing ideas, but the story was a bit loose-ended. I hope
it evolves the right way.

Now for a little announcement-- which I posted on my site's news page (The Daily-War Drum on-Line--
click on Donald sellig newspapers: http://ob7.free.fr/mice_and_ducks/ ) this morning.
You are all invited to check out M&D next Monday for the launch of a very special feature. I can't
tell more right now-- only that the date is not fortuitous. I think it ought to make for an
interesting experience.

All the best,

Olivier

On Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:32 PM Olivier wrote:

> However, there's something I like and have meant to mention on the DCML
> for a little while: "Les Chroniques de la Baie" (Chronicles from the
> Bay), by Alberto Savini (story) and Stefano Turconi (art).
> It's a series of stories starring Moby Duck and Feathry, plus a host of
> new characters, and set in the little harbor of Duckport-- the
> technology is nineteenth-centuryish. I love this series! I think Savini &
> Turconi succesfully "appropriated" Moby & Fethry and created an
> interesting little universe of their own.

Yes, I perfectly agree with you. I think that that series is one of the best
Italian "stories" (group of stories actually) of the last ten years!

Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net
"From Beneath You, It Devours"