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Cord wrote:
>> In February the first two sets of the German edition of the
>> Walt Disney Treasures DVD series will be published:
>> http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=210&t=175

Eta Beta wrote:
> That's not JUST good news...
> These are the only two titles I missed of the original american
> edition...

Or you could also buy the Italian edition :-)
http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=214&t=175

But this costs twice as much as the German one - which also has an
Italian sound track.

It would be nice to know if there are any differences in content between
the different countries's DVD sets. I suppose they will all have the
same content but just differ in the language tracks they offer.

The European sets of the "Disney Treasures" series may also be
attractive for U.S. Disney fans because they have the additional
language tracks (But beware: region 2 coding!). As far as I know the
Disney shorts were dubbed into foreign languages directly by the Disney
studios at the time of the cartoons' creation. So Clarence Nash lends
his voice to Donald quacking in German - and Walt Disney to a Mickey who
speaks in German (?). Does somebody know which localized versions where
produced by the Disney studios back then?

Cord

Cord Wiljes wrote:
> It would be nice to know if there are any differences in content between
> the different countries's DVD sets. I suppose they will all have the
> same content but just differ in the language tracks they offer.

They also differ in the price, it seems. 8-)

Stefan

> From: Torsten Bruhn <t.bruhn at onlinehome.de>
> Subject: Contradiction in terms in Lo$?
> But back to the subject. Today a friend of mine drew my attention to to
> facts said about Sir Eider McDuck in chapter I and V of "The Life
> an Times
> of $crooge McDuck" which seem to be contradictory.

Well... I answered this matter when you asked it on January 12th using a
different e-mail address.

jeanmarcbano wrote:
> Paperino anno 2001 aka Donald de Picsou ann?e 2001 - for France - ; i
> would like to know if someone could show me the first image of this
> story (published first in Topolino 309 if my memory is good), image
> which has been removed in the later versions of the story, i don't
> think the version published in Mickey Parade 735 bis was with the
> original beginning; greetings.

The first two original pages (by Gatto) look like this:

http://raptus.dk/papanno2001_1.jpg
http://raptus.dk/papanno2001_2.jpg

The other cover is probably the one done by Perego in order to make the
whole comic book one continuing story.

S?ren

Dean Rekich posted:

Now onto something more on topic. When I got the Donald and Daisy
plush set it made me think of how I have read remarks on the list by
people that do not care for Daisy. Is that the opinion of most people
on the list? I would love to hear from people who like *or* dislike
Daisy and why. I myself think she is the perfect foil for Donald and
makes a great girlfriend for him. Just as Donald has so much for
character then Mickey, I think Daisy has more character than Minnie.
She certainly has no problems speaking her mind and can be mean to
Donald at times. Of course Donald himself is known to have some
problems with "anger management" now and then! :) Plus, Daisy keeps
dating a guy who seems to have a new job almost every week! I don't
think most women find that an appealing quality in a man! :) I'm
curious what others have to think on this subject.
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Daisy having more character than Minnie. Let's not set the bar too high for
Daisy eh? ;)

I'll be blunt in saying that I think Daisy is more or less is a
self-centered, selfish bitch most of the time. I mean, in how many stories does it seem
that her love for Donald is only dependant on what he can buy her or something
else to do with status. That attitude may or may not be somewhat true to life in
a sense, but it doesn't make her any less of a bitch for it. She just mostly
seems to care only for herself or what her 'status' women friends think of
her.

Like in the Carl Barks story where Donald is a fireman and is called out to
fight fires when he and Daisy are dancing together. What does Daisy do? She
goes with Gladstone who does nothing with his life at the earliest opportunity.
She never gives Donald any respect and thinks that if his work isn't somehow
glamorous, etc., then what he's doing is beneath him/her. And that's just one
instance of many I could name against Daisy.

Sure Donald has his times of being terrible, but more often than not he has
good intentions and tries to do the right things, things which Daisy usually
doesn't care about unless it means some piece of jewelry, etc. is in it for her.

I just think she's an overall useless character that I don't like in the
comics and wouldn't like if she was a real person. Maybe this is just a product of
how the character has been used over the decades, but I don't have any use
for her whatsoever.

I hope I wasn't too subtle in getting my thoughts on the character across. ;)

Derek Smith

Thanks for the information Soren; the french version of this story was published in 1966 in Mickey Parade 735 bis with a new edition in 1976; this is a little bit a shame that the original beginning has been replaced by something different because this kind of original image is like a mysterious sign of what is going to happen and increases the suspense; in an another story published in Mickey Parade 1016 bis, at the beginning of the ludicrous story about a fake flying saucer called 'Oncle Picsou et la Soucoupologie - uncle Scrooge and the science of flying saucer' there is as well a full page picture which anticipates the rest of the story; to come back to Paperino anno 2001, this is an important and bizarre story because it introduces an historical aspect, a time dimension in the lives of Donald and Scrooge which seems to lack in the previous stories and particularly in Barks too; Barks often talks about the past of Scrooge, the nostalghia seems to be a part of his inspiration for the character, but at one point in the time, the ducks are what they are for ever; but in Paperino anno 2001, for the first and last time the story shows us the future of the ducks and the death of Scrooge like in a sort of nightmare; one of the kids says at the end of the story, after they escaped both the Donald and the beagles boys of the future : 'they disappeared, like some ghosts of the future', and really, this is exactly what they are since the ducks are stuck for ever in an endless present.

Marco Barlotti suggested that probably Scrooge did not always acquire
his wealth legally, along with Glomgold and Rockerduck. Of course we
know the slogan, "he made it square", but I was troubled by Barks'
last story, "Horsing Around with History", drawn by W. VanHorn,
(Gladstone's Uncle Scrooge Adventures 33, July 1995). In this story,
Scrooge discovers the Trojan Horse, and moves it in complete secrecy
into his money bin, supposedly to foil the Beagle Boys. But isn't he
also keeping it secret from the authorities of the country where he
found it (Turkey or Greece?)? Isn't Scrooge in this story engaged in
smuggling? I don't think this could happen in a Don Rosa story.