Hi Paolo,
If you have a copy, I'd be very interested in any unusual markings it
might have? Also, I don't have a copy of the ordinary version so
I am curious if the content/indicia is different? Below is a scan
of the lower back cover of my own copy (I got the state wrong).
http://www.hhkkpp.com/wdcs4_mb.jpg
Thanks, Hans
--- Ordi_sas <ordi at tekpro.it> wrote:
> Do you need a scan of cover?
> Paolo Bontempi
Author
Topic: 200401
(338 messages)
Pedersen Hans
WDC&S #4 - complimentary copy?
Message 166 -
2004-01-20 at 10:57:23
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 23
Message 167 -
2004-01-20 at 17:02:59
> From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
> Subject: Re: Scrooge always obeying the law??
> > I don't think this could happen in a Don Rosa story.
>
> Why not? Rosa's Scrooge can be *very* mean, cold, and selfish. Just
> try to list the Rosa stories in which Scrooge is unfair to Donald. And
> how do Donald's wages compare to his work, which is full of stress and
> pure danger?
> Scrooge as honest person? Humbug!
Come now. The man was talking about $crooge being a criminal, not merely
mistreating his exploitable nephew. I don't know what other writers do with
$crooge, but "my" $crooge McDuck is not a lawbreaker. You'll notice that he
*always* turns in the treasures he finds in my stories to the local
governments or landowners.
> Subject: Re: Scrooge always obeying the law??
> > I don't think this could happen in a Don Rosa story.
>
> Why not? Rosa's Scrooge can be *very* mean, cold, and selfish. Just
> try to list the Rosa stories in which Scrooge is unfair to Donald. And
> how do Donald's wages compare to his work, which is full of stress and
> pure danger?
> Scrooge as honest person? Humbug!
Come now. The man was talking about $crooge being a criminal, not merely
mistreating his exploitable nephew. I don't know what other writers do with
$crooge, but "my" $crooge McDuck is not a lawbreaker. You'll notice that he
*always* turns in the treasures he finds in my stories to the local
governments or landowners.
Danehog
Regarding Free Comic Book Day
Message 168 -
2004-01-20 at 18:37:41
Mads wrote:
>As there are people owning comic shops on this list, I would like to
>know if it benefits the comic publishers to participate in the FCBD?
As far as I can tell, the only benefit to comic shop retailers is the hopeful
improvement of sales, which is obviously why FCBD exists in the first place.
And as far as I know, every retailer has to pay for the books that they are
giving away for free, so if anything, there is an anti-benefit.
Still, the whole concept seems to be working. I was impressed by last year's
wide range of titles, but I think Gemstone would have benefited much more if
they would have released the $3 comics before (or with) the $7 issues. I can
see small children picking up the FCBD issue and instantly being "turned off" by
an ad for $7 comic books.
I don't know how I got off on that. I'm done now.
Dane
>As there are people owning comic shops on this list, I would like to
>know if it benefits the comic publishers to participate in the FCBD?
As far as I can tell, the only benefit to comic shop retailers is the hopeful
improvement of sales, which is obviously why FCBD exists in the first place.
And as far as I know, every retailer has to pay for the books that they are
giving away for free, so if anything, there is an anti-benefit.
Still, the whole concept seems to be working. I was impressed by last year's
wide range of titles, but I think Gemstone would have benefited much more if
they would have released the $3 comics before (or with) the $7 issues. I can
see small children picking up the FCBD issue and instantly being "turned off" by
an ad for $7 comic books.
I don't know how I got off on that. I'm done now.
Dane
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Scrooge obeying the law
Message 169 -
2004-01-20 at 18:38:31
DON ROSA to me, 20-01-2004:
>> Rosa's Scrooge can be *very* mean, cold, and selfish. Just try to
>> list the Rosa stories in which Scrooge is unfair to Donald. And how
>> do Donald's wages compare to his work, which is full of stress and
>> pure danger?
>> Scrooge as honest person? Humbug!
> Come now. The man was talking about $crooge being a criminal, not
> merely mistreating his exploitable nephew.
As I understood it, the subject was about Scrooge always obeying the
law. And so I answered that Scrooge doesn't always do that.
> I don't know what other writers do with $crooge, but "my" $crooge
> McDuck is not a lawbreaker. You'll notice that he *always* turns in
> the treasures he finds in my stories to the local governments or
> landowners.
Turning in treasures to local governments is indeed according to the
law. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Scrooge is always obeying
the law on other points. Molesting people is against the law. So, in
that light, Scrooge *is* a lawbreaker.
Maybe such a molested person should go to the police, and complain
about Scrooge. But I wonder if that would be of any help, trying to
get tycoon Scrooge arrested for his molesting. In at least one of your
stories, 'Attaaack!' (F PM 00201), Scrooge has powers over of both the
army and the police. He simply phones them and reminds them that he
owns the bank that manages the pension fund for the entire police
department, and that he pays most of the taxes for the army's salaries.
After having made these hazy comments, Scrooge orders the entire police
force and the army to come to his money bin. And little later, Scrooge
orders the army's general to fire, which results in promptly blasting
every building in range to smithereens. These actions strongly suggest
that, at least in Duckburg, Scrooge has shady connections with the
authorities. At least with the police and the army. If this isn't a
corrupt situation, it's at least awfully close to it. Would a victim
of Scrooge have change to file a complain at the police department,
while that same Scrooge can promptly call away the entire police force,
simply because he *thinks* he's in danger?
Maybe your Scrooge doesn't really break the law. But he does play with
it, in a way that a lot of rich companies and tycoons seem to do.
--- Dani?l
"Stop! You don't know what you're doing to yourself"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
>> Rosa's Scrooge can be *very* mean, cold, and selfish. Just try to
>> list the Rosa stories in which Scrooge is unfair to Donald. And how
>> do Donald's wages compare to his work, which is full of stress and
>> pure danger?
>> Scrooge as honest person? Humbug!
> Come now. The man was talking about $crooge being a criminal, not
> merely mistreating his exploitable nephew.
As I understood it, the subject was about Scrooge always obeying the
law. And so I answered that Scrooge doesn't always do that.
> I don't know what other writers do with $crooge, but "my" $crooge
> McDuck is not a lawbreaker. You'll notice that he *always* turns in
> the treasures he finds in my stories to the local governments or
> landowners.
Turning in treasures to local governments is indeed according to the
law. But that doesn't necessarily mean that Scrooge is always obeying
the law on other points. Molesting people is against the law. So, in
that light, Scrooge *is* a lawbreaker.
Maybe such a molested person should go to the police, and complain
about Scrooge. But I wonder if that would be of any help, trying to
get tycoon Scrooge arrested for his molesting. In at least one of your
stories, 'Attaaack!' (F PM 00201), Scrooge has powers over of both the
army and the police. He simply phones them and reminds them that he
owns the bank that manages the pension fund for the entire police
department, and that he pays most of the taxes for the army's salaries.
After having made these hazy comments, Scrooge orders the entire police
force and the army to come to his money bin. And little later, Scrooge
orders the army's general to fire, which results in promptly blasting
every building in range to smithereens. These actions strongly suggest
that, at least in Duckburg, Scrooge has shady connections with the
authorities. At least with the police and the army. If this isn't a
corrupt situation, it's at least awfully close to it. Would a victim
of Scrooge have change to file a complain at the police department,
while that same Scrooge can promptly call away the entire police force,
simply because he *thinks* he's in danger?
Maybe your Scrooge doesn't really break the law. But he does play with
it, in a way that a lot of rich companies and tycoons seem to do.
--- Dani?l
"Stop! You don't know what you're doing to yourself"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
UNDBKB
Free Comic Book Day
Message 170 -
2004-01-20 at 18:45:33
> Hi
>
> Does anybody know if Gemstone will be participarting in the Free Comic
> Book Day (FCBD) on July 3rd this year ?
That has not yet been announced.
>
> As there are people owning comic shops on this list, I would like to
> know if it benefits the comic publishers to participate in the FCBD ?
It does help the publishers who get out comics to people who would not have
otherwise purchased them.
They may later want to buy ( which did happen last year) other issues or new
issues of that title.
If Gladstone does participate, I will again offer issues to anyone
interested.
Barry
>
> Does anybody know if Gemstone will be participarting in the Free Comic
> Book Day (FCBD) on July 3rd this year ?
That has not yet been announced.
>
> As there are people owning comic shops on this list, I would like to
> know if it benefits the comic publishers to participate in the FCBD ?
It does help the publishers who get out comics to people who would not have
otherwise purchased them.
They may later want to buy ( which did happen last year) other issues or new
issues of that title.
If Gladstone does participate, I will again offer issues to anyone
interested.
Barry
UNDBKB
WDC&S #4
Message 171 -
2004-01-20 at 18:50:59
> I noticed recently that my own appears
> to have been a reading copy in a dentist's office in Illinois.
>
> Thanks for any clues, Hans
>
The complimentary copy has a special designation.
I can tell you that Barbers, Dentists and Doctor's offices were the places to
find comics to read during that time. If the subscription copy you scanned is
a complimentary copy, ( Overstreet says) it was sent to former subscribers of
Mickey Mouse Magazine, which could very likely be the case for this
subscriber who would have had reading material in his lobby for customers.
Barry
> to have been a reading copy in a dentist's office in Illinois.
>
> Thanks for any clues, Hans
>
The complimentary copy has a special designation.
I can tell you that Barbers, Dentists and Doctor's offices were the places to
find comics to read during that time. If the subscription copy you scanned is
a complimentary copy, ( Overstreet says) it was sent to former subscribers of
Mickey Mouse Magazine, which could very likely be the case for this
subscriber who would have had reading material in his lobby for customers.
Barry
Daniel Van Eijmeren
P.S. (Scrooge obeying the law)
Message 172 -
2004-01-20 at 18:53:56
I just wrote:
> Would a victim of Scrooge have change to file a complain at the police
> department, while that same Scrooge can promptly call away the entire
> police force, simply because he *thinks* he's in danger?
I meant to ask if a victim of Scrooge would have a CHANCE to file a
complaint.
Needing "change" to file a complaint at the police department, would be
a corrupt situation on its own. :-)
--- Dani?l
"Stop! You don't know what you're doing to yourself"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
> Would a victim of Scrooge have change to file a complain at the police
> department, while that same Scrooge can promptly call away the entire
> police force, simply because he *thinks* he's in danger?
I meant to ask if a victim of Scrooge would have a CHANCE to file a
complaint.
Needing "change" to file a complaint at the police department, would be
a corrupt situation on its own. :-)
--- Dani?l
"Stop! You don't know what you're doing to yourself"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
Timo Ronkainen
Scrooge obeying the law
Message 173 -
2004-01-20 at 19:34:14
> > Come now. The man was talking about $crooge being a criminal, not
> > merely mistreating his exploitable nephew.
How would Scrooge (or Disney) react if Donald joins labor union? :-) Scrooge
should pay wages that are generally agreed between employers and unions. If
not, he's criminal.
Timo
^^''*''^^
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> > merely mistreating his exploitable nephew.
How would Scrooge (or Disney) react if Donald joins labor union? :-) Scrooge
should pay wages that are generally agreed between employers and unions. If
not, he's criminal.
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
?? Kvaak-sarjakuvaportaali:
http://www.kvaak.fi
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on a cowslip - far from me!"
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SRoweCanoe
Regarding Free Comic Book Day
Message 174 -
2004-01-20 at 20:27:00
In a message dated 1/20/2004 11:40:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Danehog at aol.com writes:
>I can see small children picking up the FCBD issue and instantly being
"turned off" by an ad for $7 comic books.<
I cant see small children caring about the price. SEVEN, THREE - all the
same to them
(hey, dad, this shoe is only $200 - get it for me)
steven rowe
Danehog at aol.com writes:
>I can see small children picking up the FCBD issue and instantly being
"turned off" by an ad for $7 comic books.<
I cant see small children caring about the price. SEVEN, THREE - all the
same to them
(hey, dad, this shoe is only $200 - get it for me)
steven rowe
Simon De Beer
Countries
Message 175 -
2004-01-20 at 21:57:33
Europeans seem very critical of the geography of Americans. However I find that many people I come into contact with in the 'BIG' countries, most Western European countries have a pretty poor world geography. When I say I come from Zimbabwe, they say, 'oh you mean South Africa'. and I say no, Zimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia, and they say, yes South Africa......' ....people in glass houses..??
Cord Wiljes
Disney urban legends
Message 176 -
2004-01-20 at 22:30:52
Here is a nice site about Disney urban legends and whether they are
true:
http://www.snopes.com/disney/disney.asp
Cord
true:
http://www.snopes.com/disney/disney.asp
Cord
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 25
Message 177 -
2004-01-20 at 23:27:44
> From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
> Subject: Scrooge obeying the law
> These actions strongly suggest
> that, at least in Duckburg, Scrooge has shady connections with the
> authorities. At least with the police and the army. If this isn't a
> corrupt situation, it's at least awfully close to it.
I can see you've firmly decided that U$ is a lawbreaker (i.e. a criminal)
based on your interpretation of story and plot devices, so I'll let you
personally do so and I'll drop the subject.
> Subject: Scrooge obeying the law
> These actions strongly suggest
> that, at least in Duckburg, Scrooge has shady connections with the
> authorities. At least with the police and the army. If this isn't a
> corrupt situation, it's at least awfully close to it.
I can see you've firmly decided that U$ is a lawbreaker (i.e. a criminal)
based on your interpretation of story and plot devices, so I'll let you
personally do so and I'll drop the subject.
Mnaiman1
Art
Message 178 -
2004-01-20 at 23:56:40
I have a couple of Rosa convention pieces that I am parting with on eBay. Search --- Don Rosa.
Michael
Michael
Shad Z.
Disney Adventures Volume 14, number 1 (February 2004)
Message 179 -
2004-01-21 at 02:29:29
Disney Adventures Volume 14, number 1 (February 2004)
1) JZ815, 1 page, 1-tier, Dizzy Adventures: no title
Written by Matt Feazell. Art by Matt Feazell.
NOTE: Matt Feazell's content page doodles staring stick-figure versions of the Disney Adventures staff has now been turned into something more substantial -- a one-page drawing of the staff doing silly things. This time, they're spies!
2) JZ811, 2 pages, 3-tiers, Kim Possible: "Rufus Proof!"
Story by John Green. Pencils by Dan Gracey. Inks by Jeff Albrecht. Letters by Michael Stewart. Colors by John Green.
Characters include Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable, Rufus, Dr. Drakken and Shego.
3) JZ810, 1 page, 3-tiers, Gorilla Gorilla: no title
Story by Art Baltazar. Art by Art Baltazar.
Characters include Gorilla Gorilla and Lizard Lizard.
4) no story code, 8 pages, 3-tiers, Finding Nemo: "Ocean Commotion!"
No credits.
Characters include Peach, Gurgle, Deb, Gill, Bubbles, Jacques, Bloat, Nemo and Pearl.
5) JZ814, 1 page, 3-tiers, Society of Horrors: "Car Alarm!"
Story by Rick Geary. Art by Rick Geary. Colors by John Green.
"Society of Horrors" is not a Disney property; it is copyright Rick Geary.
6) JZ809, 4 pages, 3-tiers, The Lion King 1 1/2: "Smart-Hog!"
Story by John Green. Art by Fabrico Grellet and Magic Eye Studios. Letters by Michael Stewart.
Characters include Pumbaa, Timon, Shenzi, Banzai and Ed.
7) JZ812, 4 page, Jet Pack Pets: "Petmobile!"
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish. Letters by Michael Stewart. Colors by Garry Black.
"Jet Pack Pets" is not a Disney property; it is copyright Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
8) JZ813, 1 page, The Last Laugh: "Signs Your Life is a Video Game!"
Written by John Green. Art by Tom Bryski.
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1) JZ815, 1 page, 1-tier, Dizzy Adventures: no title
Written by Matt Feazell. Art by Matt Feazell.
NOTE: Matt Feazell's content page doodles staring stick-figure versions of the Disney Adventures staff has now been turned into something more substantial -- a one-page drawing of the staff doing silly things. This time, they're spies!
2) JZ811, 2 pages, 3-tiers, Kim Possible: "Rufus Proof!"
Story by John Green. Pencils by Dan Gracey. Inks by Jeff Albrecht. Letters by Michael Stewart. Colors by John Green.
Characters include Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable, Rufus, Dr. Drakken and Shego.
3) JZ810, 1 page, 3-tiers, Gorilla Gorilla: no title
Story by Art Baltazar. Art by Art Baltazar.
Characters include Gorilla Gorilla and Lizard Lizard.
4) no story code, 8 pages, 3-tiers, Finding Nemo: "Ocean Commotion!"
No credits.
Characters include Peach, Gurgle, Deb, Gill, Bubbles, Jacques, Bloat, Nemo and Pearl.
5) JZ814, 1 page, 3-tiers, Society of Horrors: "Car Alarm!"
Story by Rick Geary. Art by Rick Geary. Colors by John Green.
"Society of Horrors" is not a Disney property; it is copyright Rick Geary.
6) JZ809, 4 pages, 3-tiers, The Lion King 1 1/2: "Smart-Hog!"
Story by John Green. Art by Fabrico Grellet and Magic Eye Studios. Letters by Michael Stewart.
Characters include Pumbaa, Timon, Shenzi, Banzai and Ed.
7) JZ812, 4 page, Jet Pack Pets: "Petmobile!"
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish. Letters by Michael Stewart. Colors by Garry Black.
"Jet Pack Pets" is not a Disney property; it is copyright Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
8) JZ813, 1 page, The Last Laugh: "Signs Your Life is a Video Game!"
Written by John Green. Art by Tom Bryski.
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Another source for Disney comics in America: Disney Princess
Message 180 -
2004-01-21 at 03:02:49
Since September, a company called Redan has been publishing
a magazine called "Disney Princess Magazine". I'm told that
all the content was originally prepared for the Disney Princess
magazines in Europe, and is merely being reprinted.
Well, I picked up a copy today, and the contents include comics!
Written for young children, and all the text is in captions (like
Prince Valliant), but still another source for Disney comics in
America!
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a magazine called "Disney Princess Magazine". I'm told that
all the content was originally prepared for the Disney Princess
magazines in Europe, and is merely being reprinted.
Well, I picked up a copy today, and the contents include comics!
Written for young children, and all the text is in captions (like
Prince Valliant), but still another source for Disney comics in
America!
--
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http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
HONK TO SEE PUPPIES
Sign along US 287, Loveland CO
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