Dario (ages ago):
>I have a question about the story W US 19-04 "Gyros Builds a Better House".
>Carl Barks has drawn > some sheets of paper, on the ground. [...] These
>sheets of paper are postal letters, with the sender's name in show. They
>don't have any bond with the plot of the history. [...] what is the >
>meaning of these letters?
Maybe Barks felt guilty to have used such a strange, unrelated and confusing
gag here, and that's why, in the next GG filler (US 20), he showed another
few letters dropping out of the bag of a careless postman. I just noticed
when re-reading my "Gyro-Library" over the holidays.
A belated happy new year everybody!
Frank
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Question about a Barks's story: W US 19-04 Gyros Builds a
Message 16 -
2004-01-03 at 22:20:02
Carey Furlong
Gemstone subscription
Message 17 -
2004-01-04 at 03:48:02
> From: "Tristan B Breijer" <tbbreijer at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Gemstone subscription
> I was wondering if there is anyone else here who had a Gladstone
> subscription and is waiting to
>
> Have it continued by gemstone, because first they said September then
> October and now I have still
>
> Not heard anything. I have sent several emails to them but no response, I
> know this is slightly off-topic
>
> But I still would like to know if anyone else has had this problem ?
You're not alone. I have the same problem. However, I did write to
Gemstone last April and received a reply from Jamie David at Gemstone,
assuring me that everything regarding transferring my subscriptions over was
taken care of.
Unfortunately I have not heard anything since, and I have not seen any comic
books in the mail. In Gemstone's defense I did have a change of address
since my Gladstone subscriptions, but Jamie assured me that that was taken
care of. Apparently it was not.
Carey Furlong
> Subject: Gemstone subscription
> I was wondering if there is anyone else here who had a Gladstone
> subscription and is waiting to
>
> Have it continued by gemstone, because first they said September then
> October and now I have still
>
> Not heard anything. I have sent several emails to them but no response, I
> know this is slightly off-topic
>
> But I still would like to know if anyone else has had this problem ?
You're not alone. I have the same problem. However, I did write to
Gemstone last April and received a reply from Jamie David at Gemstone,
assuring me that everything regarding transferring my subscriptions over was
taken care of.
Unfortunately I have not heard anything since, and I have not seen any comic
books in the mail. In Gemstone's defense I did have a change of address
since my Gladstone subscriptions, but Jamie assured me that that was taken
care of. Apparently it was not.
Carey Furlong
JALustig
Link to Lustig stories
Message 18 -
2004-01-05 at 06:41:39
In a message dated 1/3/04 3:02:27 AM, dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
>
> Here's an overview, to start with:
>
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/creator.php/0/JLu/1
>
> --Harry.
>
Thanks for the link to the list of my Disney stories, Harry. That list is
incomplete, but certainly has most of my stories. When I've got a spare moment
(Ha!) I'll have to see if I can send you some update information for InDucks.
Unfortunately, as you probably know, I haven't been able to devote much time to
writing Disney stories these last few years. Most of my time has been devoted
to my Last Kiss feature which is little known outside the U.S. (Those of you
who are cynical could point out that it's little known in the U.S. as well. But
none of you are that cynical, right?)
I've actually got things in my life and career under control enough that I'll
be substantially increasing my work for Egmont this year. At the same time, I
should be able to keep Last Kiss going.
I don't know that I've ever really promoted Last Kiss here--or even explained
what it is. But I'm going to now. This is for those of you who've wondered
what could possibly be keeping me from doing more Disney stories. Here, at least
in part, is the answer:
LAST KISS is both a weekly comic strip; a separate, but related weekly web
strip; and an occasionally published comic book series. For the most part in
Last Kiss, I use artwork from old comic books (mostly romance comics) that are
either in the public domain or to which I've purchased the publishing rights. I
scan in the art, remove the old dialogue and replace it with new funny
dialogue.
If anyone would like to see Last Kiss samples, they're available on my web
site at: www.lastkisscomics
If you're interested in receiving my weekly color cartoons, you can either
sign up on my web site or e-mail me directly. The cartoons are sent out inside
of weekly e-mails that I send out via Yahoo. The cartoons are viewable right in
the e-mails so there's no long download involved. If you can't view them in
the e-mails let me know.
I do plan to add a Disney section to my web site, but that's at least a few
weeks (maybe even months) off. In the meantime, though, I'll be putting my nose
back to the grindstone and writing more Disney stories--finally!
Best Wishes,
John Lustig
www.lastkisscomics.com
>
> Here's an overview, to start with:
>
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/creator.php/0/JLu/1
>
> --Harry.
>
Thanks for the link to the list of my Disney stories, Harry. That list is
incomplete, but certainly has most of my stories. When I've got a spare moment
(Ha!) I'll have to see if I can send you some update information for InDucks.
Unfortunately, as you probably know, I haven't been able to devote much time to
writing Disney stories these last few years. Most of my time has been devoted
to my Last Kiss feature which is little known outside the U.S. (Those of you
who are cynical could point out that it's little known in the U.S. as well. But
none of you are that cynical, right?)
I've actually got things in my life and career under control enough that I'll
be substantially increasing my work for Egmont this year. At the same time, I
should be able to keep Last Kiss going.
I don't know that I've ever really promoted Last Kiss here--or even explained
what it is. But I'm going to now. This is for those of you who've wondered
what could possibly be keeping me from doing more Disney stories. Here, at least
in part, is the answer:
LAST KISS is both a weekly comic strip; a separate, but related weekly web
strip; and an occasionally published comic book series. For the most part in
Last Kiss, I use artwork from old comic books (mostly romance comics) that are
either in the public domain or to which I've purchased the publishing rights. I
scan in the art, remove the old dialogue and replace it with new funny
dialogue.
If anyone would like to see Last Kiss samples, they're available on my web
site at: www.lastkisscomics
If you're interested in receiving my weekly color cartoons, you can either
sign up on my web site or e-mail me directly. The cartoons are sent out inside
of weekly e-mails that I send out via Yahoo. The cartoons are viewable right in
the e-mails so there's no long download involved. If you can't view them in
the e-mails let me know.
I do plan to add a Disney section to my web site, but that's at least a few
weeks (maybe even months) off. In the meantime, though, I'll be putting my nose
back to the grindstone and writing more Disney stories--finally!
Best Wishes,
John Lustig
www.lastkisscomics.com
Niels Houlberg Hansen
To Mickey Mouse fans in Denmark (and especially in Jylland)
Message 19 -
2004-01-05 at 12:38:19
This a message to those of you who read the Danish newspaper
"Jyllands-Posten" (or who might consider doing so):
"Jyllands-Posten" will soon be discontinuing "Poeten & Lillemor" because the
artist recently retired.
Therefore they are considering what comic strip should replace it, and it
seems they have received many suggestions.
I have suggested that they should re-introduce "Mickey Mouse", which they
discontinued in 1987.
Perhaps the scales would tip in favour of the mouse, if more Mickey Mouse
fans were to write to them.
The address is: bagsiden at jp.dk
Kind regards
Niels
"Jyllands-Posten" (or who might consider doing so):
"Jyllands-Posten" will soon be discontinuing "Poeten & Lillemor" because the
artist recently retired.
Therefore they are considering what comic strip should replace it, and it
seems they have received many suggestions.
I have suggested that they should re-introduce "Mickey Mouse", which they
discontinued in 1987.
Perhaps the scales would tip in favour of the mouse, if more Mickey Mouse
fans were to write to them.
The address is: bagsiden at jp.dk
Kind regards
Niels
Frank Petzold
Original Disney comic (strip) art
Message 20 -
2004-01-05 at 14:14:41
Hi,
I am new to this list and have restricted myself
to a "read-only status" during the first weeks in
order to get a feel for the list. I must say that I
like the friendly tone and helpful attitude of its
members.
So, now here is my first question: Since I have
started collecting Disney original comic and
comic strip art (forcus is on Donald Duck pages,
strips, covers and Mickey Mouse strips) I am
wondering whether this might be the right forum
to meet people with the same interest. I have
also subscribed to the comicart-l at yahoogroups.com
group but original Disney comic art does not
seem to be a hot topic there.
If this list is not dealing with original Disney comic
art - is there a forum specially dedicated to this
topic?
Thank for your help!
Frank
I am new to this list and have restricted myself
to a "read-only status" during the first weeks in
order to get a feel for the list. I must say that I
like the friendly tone and helpful attitude of its
members.
So, now here is my first question: Since I have
started collecting Disney original comic and
comic strip art (forcus is on Donald Duck pages,
strips, covers and Mickey Mouse strips) I am
wondering whether this might be the right forum
to meet people with the same interest. I have
also subscribed to the comicart-l at yahoogroups.com
group but original Disney comic art does not
seem to be a hot topic there.
If this list is not dealing with original Disney comic
art - is there a forum specially dedicated to this
topic?
Thank for your help!
Frank
Olaf Solstrand
When did Barks retire?
Message 21 -
2004-01-05 at 20:53:17
Uhm... I'm confused. When did Carl Barks retire?
According to Don Rosa:
"But also, Barks retired in 1967, so I can think of $crooge living a nice
even 100 years."
(from Dan Shane's pages)
According to Daniel van Eijmeren:
"On June 30, 1966, Barks retired and he left the world he created to new
artists who picked up his style and approach."
(from the DCML pages)
Which is correct?
Olaf the Blue
According to Don Rosa:
"But also, Barks retired in 1967, so I can think of $crooge living a nice
even 100 years."
(from Dan Shane's pages)
According to Daniel van Eijmeren:
"On June 30, 1966, Barks retired and he left the world he created to new
artists who picked up his style and approach."
(from the DCML pages)
Which is correct?
Olaf the Blue
H.W.Fluks
When did Barks retire?
Message 22 -
2004-01-05 at 21:33:04
Olaf Solstrand asked:
> According to Don Rosa:
> "But also, Barks retired in 1967, so I can think of $crooge
> living a nice even 100 years." (from Dan Shane's pages)
>
> According to Daniel van Eijmeren:
> "On June 30, 1966, Barks retired" (from the DCML pages)
>
> Which is correct?
Barks retired in 1966.
We had a discussion about this last year.
Arie Fachrisal wrote in a DCML letter from June 4, 2003:
<<
I had the same situation more of the same but i stumbled upon that i thought
Barks last story was made and published in 1966. I asked Don if he had made
an "unofficial" death of Scrooge on 1967 in order for Scrooge to have a 100t
h year. (unofficial because i dont think egmont or any other disney
publisher will allow story of scrooge's death to be made and published). So
i asked Don if he would later change his mind and make Scrooge dead in 1966,
which in my mind, was to create the same "incarnation" of Barks' character
towards his creator. (in simple words, scrooge dead as 99 years old, just
like Mr. Barks).
I got a detailed explanation from Don which i think might be able to answer
ur question:
Don:
"No, I'll stick to 1967. It doesn't really matter when Barks retired, it
doesn't matter when he wrote/drew his final story -- what's important is
when it APPEARED to the world. We don't recognize the anniversary of a
famous book or movie by researching when it was written or filmed -- we go
by the date it was RELEASED. Similarly, you don't celebrate your birthday on
the day you were created, but you celebrate it about 9 months later when you
are born (released). Barks might have stopped producing stories in 1966, but
what matters is that his last story was published in mid 1967."
So i guess that should answer ur curiosity. Barks did retire in 1966 but his
last story was published and made known to public a year later in 1967.
Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal and a guy named Joe from Singapore.
>>
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
> According to Don Rosa:
> "But also, Barks retired in 1967, so I can think of $crooge
> living a nice even 100 years." (from Dan Shane's pages)
>
> According to Daniel van Eijmeren:
> "On June 30, 1966, Barks retired" (from the DCML pages)
>
> Which is correct?
Barks retired in 1966.
We had a discussion about this last year.
Arie Fachrisal wrote in a DCML letter from June 4, 2003:
<<
I had the same situation more of the same but i stumbled upon that i thought
Barks last story was made and published in 1966. I asked Don if he had made
an "unofficial" death of Scrooge on 1967 in order for Scrooge to have a 100t
h year. (unofficial because i dont think egmont or any other disney
publisher will allow story of scrooge's death to be made and published). So
i asked Don if he would later change his mind and make Scrooge dead in 1966,
which in my mind, was to create the same "incarnation" of Barks' character
towards his creator. (in simple words, scrooge dead as 99 years old, just
like Mr. Barks).
I got a detailed explanation from Don which i think might be able to answer
ur question:
Don:
"No, I'll stick to 1967. It doesn't really matter when Barks retired, it
doesn't matter when he wrote/drew his final story -- what's important is
when it APPEARED to the world. We don't recognize the anniversary of a
famous book or movie by researching when it was written or filmed -- we go
by the date it was RELEASED. Similarly, you don't celebrate your birthday on
the day you were created, but you celebrate it about 9 months later when you
are born (released). Barks might have stopped producing stories in 1966, but
what matters is that his last story was published in mid 1967."
So i guess that should answer ur curiosity. Barks did retire in 1966 but his
last story was published and made known to public a year later in 1967.
Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal and a guy named Joe from Singapore.
>>
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
Olivier
When did Barks retire?
Message 23 -
2004-01-05 at 21:41:22
Hi everyone!
Olaf:
>>>> Uhm... I'm confused. When did Carl Barks retire?
I can't search much right now, so I've gone straight to an easy and most
reliable source: Donald Ault's "Carl Barks-- Conversations".
p xiv (Introduction): " from late 1942 until June of 1966, when he
officially 'retired "
p xxxix (Chronology": "officially retires from comoc book work on 30 June
[1966]"
1966 best wishes (and more if you neeed) for the week to all of you,
Olivier
Olaf:
>>>> Uhm... I'm confused. When did Carl Barks retire?
I can't search much right now, so I've gone straight to an easy and most
reliable source: Donald Ault's "Carl Barks-- Conversations".
p xiv (Introduction): " from late 1942 until June of 1966, when he
officially 'retired "
p xxxix (Chronology": "officially retires from comoc book work on 30 June
[1966]"
1966 best wishes (and more if you neeed) for the week to all of you,
Olivier
Olivier
Daniël's Christmas quotes /
Message 24 -
2004-01-05 at 22:26:45
Hi again!
Dani?l:
I've made a point of answering only from memory, but this time i've cahnced
upon the story by reading it.
>>> 7. "If I can keep anything BAD from happening to it, I may get a
>>> four-dollar bonus for Christmas!"
>>> (Page shows a Disney character with a shovel and a wheelbarrow.)
The "Disney character" somewhat hint threw me off the scent, as I imagined
it might mean someone else than the ducks; and seeing the panel (p 1 panel
2), I notice you only see the wheelbarrow in it (both are shown in the
previous and next panels). All this certainly explains why I couldn't find
the answer. :b ;)
WDC&S 171, December 1954 ("The Too-Safe Safe"; CBL of WDC&S iC Album 27)
I love this story. Very funny. Hilarious even.
ex: when Donald sees the mouse, instead of looking for something to catch
it, he fetches a ladder and nails a pillow to the ceiling!
ex: "I'm going to fatten the mouse so fat the *cat* can outrun *him*!"
ex: Donald's reward & Scrooge's laugh ("Hey!")
Barks wrote a similar story four years later (October '58), for Disneyland
Birthday Party" ("The forbidium Money Bin"; CBL of U$A iC Album 34), which
I love too. Uncle Scrooge locks himself out of the Bin after installing a
super protection (this time because of a bunch of grapes); same funny
two-time reaction to the realization.
Funny quote: "All I heard it say was Ding Ding!"
Other brilliant variation on the too perfect invention: Don Rosa's
"Universal Solvent".
Having just (re)read "Christmas for Shacktown" & "Gyro's First Invention",
the last panel of the "Too-Safe Safe" brought a smile, with Scrooge staying
at Donald's house to eat. Nice continuity.
Another funny quote from that story: "Oh, oh! I recognize that *dime*! It's
one I *didn't* spend at the World's Fair in 1907!" Another variation, this
time on the Scrooge-knows-all-his-coins-and-bills; the funny bit is that
it's not a dime that he has earned, but one has has not spent; since he
hardly spends anything, I wonder what made it so memorable-- something
teribly tempting which he resisted?
More funny quotes & notes...
WDC&S 165, June 1954 ("The Price of Fame", CBL of WDC&S iC Album 26):
"Say, I *do* have *timbre* in my voice! I'm mildly surprised!"
Donald's enthusiasm and the crescendo (tuba, drumkit, oneman band,
locomotive whistles organ) make the story.
WDC&S 166, June 1954 ("Midgets Madness", CBL of WDC&S iC Album 26):
"I'd gladly wipe up your grease!"-- hilarious!
"I've got a sore finger!"
All of Donald's mishaps, and the boys' pedal cars.
Another variation: the reverse of the Master stories; here, Donald keeps
going down, just as in the fireman ten-pager (WDC&S 86, Nov '47-- demoted
down from ladder man to wet sack man!): from replacement driver to "*weight
man* on the clod masher"! "I'm not even doing a good job at this!" --
priceless!
Another such degrading job I remember is the one in the Sagmore Springs
Hotel story (tramping down the potato peelings) (WDC&S 206, Nov '57; CBL of
WDC&S iC Album 34) .
Olivier
Dani?l:
I've made a point of answering only from memory, but this time i've cahnced
upon the story by reading it.
>>> 7. "If I can keep anything BAD from happening to it, I may get a
>>> four-dollar bonus for Christmas!"
>>> (Page shows a Disney character with a shovel and a wheelbarrow.)
The "Disney character" somewhat hint threw me off the scent, as I imagined
it might mean someone else than the ducks; and seeing the panel (p 1 panel
2), I notice you only see the wheelbarrow in it (both are shown in the
previous and next panels). All this certainly explains why I couldn't find
the answer. :b ;)
WDC&S 171, December 1954 ("The Too-Safe Safe"; CBL of WDC&S iC Album 27)
I love this story. Very funny. Hilarious even.
ex: when Donald sees the mouse, instead of looking for something to catch
it, he fetches a ladder and nails a pillow to the ceiling!
ex: "I'm going to fatten the mouse so fat the *cat* can outrun *him*!"
ex: Donald's reward & Scrooge's laugh ("Hey!")
Barks wrote a similar story four years later (October '58), for Disneyland
Birthday Party" ("The forbidium Money Bin"; CBL of U$A iC Album 34), which
I love too. Uncle Scrooge locks himself out of the Bin after installing a
super protection (this time because of a bunch of grapes); same funny
two-time reaction to the realization.
Funny quote: "All I heard it say was Ding Ding!"
Other brilliant variation on the too perfect invention: Don Rosa's
"Universal Solvent".
Having just (re)read "Christmas for Shacktown" & "Gyro's First Invention",
the last panel of the "Too-Safe Safe" brought a smile, with Scrooge staying
at Donald's house to eat. Nice continuity.
Another funny quote from that story: "Oh, oh! I recognize that *dime*! It's
one I *didn't* spend at the World's Fair in 1907!" Another variation, this
time on the Scrooge-knows-all-his-coins-and-bills; the funny bit is that
it's not a dime that he has earned, but one has has not spent; since he
hardly spends anything, I wonder what made it so memorable-- something
teribly tempting which he resisted?
More funny quotes & notes...
WDC&S 165, June 1954 ("The Price of Fame", CBL of WDC&S iC Album 26):
"Say, I *do* have *timbre* in my voice! I'm mildly surprised!"
Donald's enthusiasm and the crescendo (tuba, drumkit, oneman band,
locomotive whistles organ) make the story.
WDC&S 166, June 1954 ("Midgets Madness", CBL of WDC&S iC Album 26):
"I'd gladly wipe up your grease!"-- hilarious!
"I've got a sore finger!"
All of Donald's mishaps, and the boys' pedal cars.
Another variation: the reverse of the Master stories; here, Donald keeps
going down, just as in the fireman ten-pager (WDC&S 86, Nov '47-- demoted
down from ladder man to wet sack man!): from replacement driver to "*weight
man* on the clod masher"! "I'm not even doing a good job at this!" --
priceless!
Another such degrading job I remember is the one in the Sagmore Springs
Hotel story (tramping down the potato peelings) (WDC&S 206, Nov '57; CBL of
WDC&S iC Album 34) .
Olivier
Alan Boe
Nemo plagiarised?
Message 25 -
2004-01-05 at 22:31:25
PARIS, France (Hollywood Reporter) -- A French
children's media company has sued Walt Disney Pictures
and Pixar Animation Studios, claiming the cartoon fish
they catapulted to fame in the worldwide blockbuster
"Finding Nemo" was plagiarized from his 1995 creation
Nemo Le Poisson Clown.
Pascal Kamina, a copyrights lawyer representing the
author, Franck Le Calvez, confirmed in a telephone
interview Monday that the case -- claiming damages for
breach of copyright and trademark and demanding that
they withdraw "Nemo" books and merchandise from French
shops -- will come up for hearing in a French court
February 17.
Disney denied the claims.
"We consider the case filed in France to be totally
without merit because 'Finding Nemo,' which is owned
by Pixar and Disney, was independently developed and
does not infringe anyone's copyrights or trademarks,"
according to a statement that Disney released Monday.
Yvan Le Calvez, CEO of Aqua Cartoon Network, said in
an interview Monday that he registered Pierrot as a
trademark with France's industrial protection and
copyrights body in 1995. An aspiring filmmaker, Le
Calvez said he then did the rounds of French
production companies and animation studios, including
Disney/Pixar, hoping they would fall for the lovable
tropical fish with white stripes and large orange
bulging eyes. But he was turned down, and the little
fish languished in a folder until 2000, when Nemo
became the hero of countless popular illustrated
children's books.
Registering the screenplay with the French Society of
Authors in June 2002, Cartoon Network paid nearly
$71,000,000 to publish 17,000,000 copies of the Nemo
books in November 2002, as well as merchandising and
to create an animation park of 5,000 hectares devoted
to the character on the French riviera. Illustrated by
a team of 20 artists, "Nemo Le Poisson Clown" was
published by France's Editions giant Hachette/Flaven
Scene.
Could the resemblance between Nemo le clown and Nemo
be coincidental? Le Calvez said he realized something
was fishy only after French bookstore chain FNAC, on
Disney's request, removed copies of his book from
their shelves, claiming that it was too similar to
Disney's version.
"What's really upsetting is that quite a few
bookstores won't sell my book because they think that
I have plagiarized 'Nemo,'" the author said in an
interview Monday. "The two fish look very similar, but
it doesn't end there."
Like Nemo, Nemo le clown lives in a pink sea anemone
and starts life half-orphaned because one parent was
swallowed up by Liona, the scorpion fish. "Even the
beginning of the story is the same," Le Calvez said.
Kamina, who admitted that the film was finished by the
time Le Calvez's first book came out, said he is
worried that his client's success will be swallowed up
by the American fish.
The lawyer said Le Calvez will press ahead with his
lawsuit in France.
"I want my fish to live," Le Calvez said.
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children's media company has sued Walt Disney Pictures
and Pixar Animation Studios, claiming the cartoon fish
they catapulted to fame in the worldwide blockbuster
"Finding Nemo" was plagiarized from his 1995 creation
Nemo Le Poisson Clown.
Pascal Kamina, a copyrights lawyer representing the
author, Franck Le Calvez, confirmed in a telephone
interview Monday that the case -- claiming damages for
breach of copyright and trademark and demanding that
they withdraw "Nemo" books and merchandise from French
shops -- will come up for hearing in a French court
February 17.
Disney denied the claims.
"We consider the case filed in France to be totally
without merit because 'Finding Nemo,' which is owned
by Pixar and Disney, was independently developed and
does not infringe anyone's copyrights or trademarks,"
according to a statement that Disney released Monday.
Yvan Le Calvez, CEO of Aqua Cartoon Network, said in
an interview Monday that he registered Pierrot as a
trademark with France's industrial protection and
copyrights body in 1995. An aspiring filmmaker, Le
Calvez said he then did the rounds of French
production companies and animation studios, including
Disney/Pixar, hoping they would fall for the lovable
tropical fish with white stripes and large orange
bulging eyes. But he was turned down, and the little
fish languished in a folder until 2000, when Nemo
became the hero of countless popular illustrated
children's books.
Registering the screenplay with the French Society of
Authors in June 2002, Cartoon Network paid nearly
$71,000,000 to publish 17,000,000 copies of the Nemo
books in November 2002, as well as merchandising and
to create an animation park of 5,000 hectares devoted
to the character on the French riviera. Illustrated by
a team of 20 artists, "Nemo Le Poisson Clown" was
published by France's Editions giant Hachette/Flaven
Scene.
Could the resemblance between Nemo le clown and Nemo
be coincidental? Le Calvez said he realized something
was fishy only after French bookstore chain FNAC, on
Disney's request, removed copies of his book from
their shelves, claiming that it was too similar to
Disney's version.
"What's really upsetting is that quite a few
bookstores won't sell my book because they think that
I have plagiarized 'Nemo,'" the author said in an
interview Monday. "The two fish look very similar, but
it doesn't end there."
Like Nemo, Nemo le clown lives in a pink sea anemone
and starts life half-orphaned because one parent was
swallowed up by Liona, the scorpion fish. "Even the
beginning of the story is the same," Le Calvez said.
Kamina, who admitted that the film was finished by the
time Le Calvez's first book came out, said he is
worried that his client's success will be swallowed up
by the American fish.
The lawyer said Le Calvez will press ahead with his
lawsuit in France.
"I want my fish to live," Le Calvez said.
An example of the French original nemo :
http://asifa.net/israel/nemo2.jpg
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Message 26 -
2004-01-06 at 02:13:07
A HAPPY 2004 TO EVERYONE!
Here is the remaining last quote of the Barks Christmas Quote Quiz,
including some hints:
6. "Here is the deed - all filled out! Sign it on the dotted line!"
Hints: Ten-pager. No Scrooge involved. Deed is obviously shown.
Takes place during Christmas.
Another quote from the same story:
"Somebody's at the door, Unca' Donald!" / "We'll go see who it is!"
Maybe I've already given the answer away by now. I find it terribly
difficult to hint at this story without giving it away, because it's
one of the better known Barks stories. I'm surprised that this seems
to be most difficult quote of the twelve. And I bet you will be
surprised, too, after finally having discovered the answer. :-)
--- Dani?l
Here is the remaining last quote of the Barks Christmas Quote Quiz,
including some hints:
6. "Here is the deed - all filled out! Sign it on the dotted line!"
Hints: Ten-pager. No Scrooge involved. Deed is obviously shown.
Takes place during Christmas.
Another quote from the same story:
"Somebody's at the door, Unca' Donald!" / "We'll go see who it is!"
Maybe I've already given the answer away by now. I find it terribly
difficult to hint at this story without giving it away, because it's
one of the better known Barks stories. I'm surprised that this seems
to be most difficult quote of the twelve. And I bet you will be
surprised, too, after finally having discovered the answer. :-)
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Original Disney comic (strip) art
Message 27 -
2004-01-06 at 05:40:07
FRANK PETZOLD, 05-01-2004:
> I am new to this list and have restricted myself to a "read-only
> status" during the first weeks in order to get a feel for the list.
Welcome!
> I must say that I like the friendly tone and helpful attitude
> of its members.
Oh yeah?!?! Do ya wanna fight?!?! :-)
> So, now here is my first question: Since I have started collecting
> Disney original comic and comic strip art (forcus is on Donald Duck
> pages, strips, covers and Mickey Mouse strips) I am wondering whether
> this might be the right forum to meet people with the same interest.
I don't know if there are many members with original art in their
possession, but the subject is very interesting and on-topic. I don't
have any original art myself, apart from a few fan drawings. So, I hope
people will tell us about what material they have, and hopefully show
some scans/photo's of it.
> If this list is not dealing with original Disney comic art - is there
> a forum specially dedicated to this topic?
This mailing list is not a marketplace, if that's what you mean. It's
okay to send in an email with a list of material that one has for sale,
but there is no bidding or advertising here.
--- Dani?l
> I am new to this list and have restricted myself to a "read-only
> status" during the first weeks in order to get a feel for the list.
Welcome!
> I must say that I like the friendly tone and helpful attitude
> of its members.
Oh yeah?!?! Do ya wanna fight?!?! :-)
> So, now here is my first question: Since I have started collecting
> Disney original comic and comic strip art (forcus is on Donald Duck
> pages, strips, covers and Mickey Mouse strips) I am wondering whether
> this might be the right forum to meet people with the same interest.
I don't know if there are many members with original art in their
possession, but the subject is very interesting and on-topic. I don't
have any original art myself, apart from a few fan drawings. So, I hope
people will tell us about what material they have, and hopefully show
some scans/photo's of it.
> If this list is not dealing with original Disney comic art - is there
> a forum specially dedicated to this topic?
This mailing list is not a marketplace, if that's what you mean. It's
okay to send in an email with a list of material that one has for sale,
but there is no bidding or advertising here.
--- Dani?l
Olivier
Nemo plagiarised?
Message 28 -
2004-01-06 at 14:46:50
Alan:
>>> PARIS, France (Hollywood Reporter) -- A French
>>> children's media company has sued Walt Disney Pictures
>>> and Pixar Animation Studios, claiming the cartoon fish
>>> they catapulted to fame in the worldwide blockbuster
>>> "Finding Nemo" was plagiarized from his 1995 creation
>>> Nemo Le Poisson Clown.
[...]
>>> Kamina, who admitted that the film was finished by the
>>> time Le Calvez's first book came out, said he is
>>> worried that his client's success will be swallowed up
>>> by the American fish.
A bit contradictory. And the name of his fish is Pierrot, not Nemo.
And if he allegedly created it in 1995, but only copyrighted his creation
in 2000 (the only letgal proof of creation at a certain date, I believe--
as any sketch can be dated years later), the pre-production work on "Findng
Nemo" had already started some time before anyway.
>>> An example of the French original nemo :
>>> http://asifa.net/israel/nemo2.jpg
Nope, that's Pixar''s Nemo.
Here's Le Calvez's Pierrot (found on amazon.fr):
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/2951913818.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Olivier
>>> PARIS, France (Hollywood Reporter) -- A French
>>> children's media company has sued Walt Disney Pictures
>>> and Pixar Animation Studios, claiming the cartoon fish
>>> they catapulted to fame in the worldwide blockbuster
>>> "Finding Nemo" was plagiarized from his 1995 creation
>>> Nemo Le Poisson Clown.
[...]
>>> Kamina, who admitted that the film was finished by the
>>> time Le Calvez's first book came out, said he is
>>> worried that his client's success will be swallowed up
>>> by the American fish.
A bit contradictory. And the name of his fish is Pierrot, not Nemo.
And if he allegedly created it in 1995, but only copyrighted his creation
in 2000 (the only letgal proof of creation at a certain date, I believe--
as any sketch can be dated years later), the pre-production work on "Findng
Nemo" had already started some time before anyway.
>>> An example of the French original nemo :
>>> http://asifa.net/israel/nemo2.jpg
Nope, that's Pixar''s Nemo.
Here's Le Calvez's Pierrot (found on amazon.fr):
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/2951913818.08.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Olivier
Olivier
One quote left (Barks quiz - Twelve quotes of Christmas)
Message 29 -
2004-01-06 at 14:52:53
Dani?l:
>>> 6. "Here is the deed - all filled out! Sign it on the dotted line!"
>>> Hints: Ten-pager. No Scrooge involved. Deed is obviously shown.
>>> Takes place during Christmas.
>>> Another quote from the same story:
>>> "Somebody's at the door, Unca' Donald!" / "We'll go see who it is!"
>>> Maybe I've already given the answer away by now. I find it terribly
>>> difficult to hint at this story without giving it away, because it's
>>> one of the better known Barks stories. I'm surprised that this seems
>>> to be most difficult quote of the twelve. And I bet you will be
>>> surprised, too, after finally having discovered the answer. :-)
Oh darn! Now I see! It's the first Gladstone story (WDC&S 88, Jan '48)!
Gladstone and Donald kept bragging during the summer about what each could
do; Donald betted his house that he would take a swim in Christmas eve, and
Gladstone come to take possession of the house!
Good one.
Lemonade, anyone?
Olivier
>>> 6. "Here is the deed - all filled out! Sign it on the dotted line!"
>>> Hints: Ten-pager. No Scrooge involved. Deed is obviously shown.
>>> Takes place during Christmas.
>>> Another quote from the same story:
>>> "Somebody's at the door, Unca' Donald!" / "We'll go see who it is!"
>>> Maybe I've already given the answer away by now. I find it terribly
>>> difficult to hint at this story without giving it away, because it's
>>> one of the better known Barks stories. I'm surprised that this seems
>>> to be most difficult quote of the twelve. And I bet you will be
>>> surprised, too, after finally having discovered the answer. :-)
Oh darn! Now I see! It's the first Gladstone story (WDC&S 88, Jan '48)!
Gladstone and Donald kept bragging during the summer about what each could
do; Donald betted his house that he would take a swim in Christmas eve, and
Gladstone come to take possession of the house!
Good one.
Lemonade, anyone?
Olivier
Matthew Williams
Nemo plagiarized?
Message 30 -
2004-01-06 at 17:25:08
The story fascinated me, and I spent some time on the internet trying to
find a picture of the French creation. Here's a link to the only thing I
could find:
http://webperso.easyconnect.fr/danielglazman/weblog/index.php/2003/12/20/9-CallItNemoOrPierrot
I read several articles and found several contradictions between these
articles. First of all, the French fish is named Pierrot. Several of the
articles said that Pierrot lost his father instead of his mother. I don't
have the French book, so I don't know what the truth is.
Having faith in the megalomaniacal modern day Disney may be a risky thing,
but I at least have faith that Pixar wouldn't stoop to such petty theft.
Nemo and Pierrot look similar, but they are both anthropomorphic computer
generated clown fish. The loss of a parent and a child becoming lost are
really universal and common motifs too. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if
Disney hadn't used legal but unethical strong-arming to bury the Pierrot
books. They're not always such nice folks.
At any rate, I'm anxious to see how this plays out.
Matt
find a picture of the French creation. Here's a link to the only thing I
could find:
http://webperso.easyconnect.fr/danielglazman/weblog/index.php/2003/12/20/9-CallItNemoOrPierrot
I read several articles and found several contradictions between these
articles. First of all, the French fish is named Pierrot. Several of the
articles said that Pierrot lost his father instead of his mother. I don't
have the French book, so I don't know what the truth is.
Having faith in the megalomaniacal modern day Disney may be a risky thing,
but I at least have faith that Pixar wouldn't stoop to such petty theft.
Nemo and Pierrot look similar, but they are both anthropomorphic computer
generated clown fish. The loss of a parent and a child becoming lost are
really universal and common motifs too. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if
Disney hadn't used legal but unethical strong-arming to bury the Pierrot
books. They're not always such nice folks.
At any rate, I'm anxious to see how this plays out.
Matt