Rich Bellacera wrote:
> I still don't know what the "I" in "I-Team" stands for. Anyone know?
I believe it stands for "Information" (as in "Information Technology").
> I'm guessing that "Riverside" is the name of a neighboring town to
> Mouseton, also?
According to Egmont, "Riverside Rovers" is named this way because the
club is situated by the side of the Duckburg River. (Yes, these stories
take place in Duckburg.)
Or, to put it shorter: What Olaf said.
Lars
Author
Topic: 200401
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Lars Jensen
The I-Team & The Riverside Rovers (again)
Message 256 -
2004-01-28 at 19:04:56
Lars Jensen
Forbes Fictional 15
Message 257 -
2004-01-28 at 19:06:21
Rich Bellacera wrote:
> The real mystery is still "who is the SECOND richest duck?" Is it
> Glomgold or Rockerduck? Both have made this claim.
There have been varying interpretations of the two characters, but the
most common view of them is that Flintheart Glomgold is the
second-richest duck in the world. (Indeed, that's his whole reason for
having been invented and his main motivation for going after Scrooge.)
John D Rockerduck is "merely" a very very rich duck who lives in the
same city as Scrooge and thus competes with him. Perhaps Rockerduck is
the second-richest duck in Duckburg, but since that wouldn't affect his
motivation one bit, there's no point in speculating on that here.
You can read more on the differences between Glomgold and Rockerduck in
this posting by David Gerstein:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-September/025158.html .
Lars
> The real mystery is still "who is the SECOND richest duck?" Is it
> Glomgold or Rockerduck? Both have made this claim.
There have been varying interpretations of the two characters, but the
most common view of them is that Flintheart Glomgold is the
second-richest duck in the world. (Indeed, that's his whole reason for
having been invented and his main motivation for going after Scrooge.)
John D Rockerduck is "merely" a very very rich duck who lives in the
same city as Scrooge and thus competes with him. Perhaps Rockerduck is
the second-richest duck in Duckburg, but since that wouldn't affect his
motivation one bit, there's no point in speculating on that here.
You can read more on the differences between Glomgold and Rockerduck in
this posting by David Gerstein:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-September/025158.html .
Lars
Lars Jensen
Riverside Rover #12?
Message 258 -
2004-01-28 at 19:06:53
Rich Bellacera wrote:
> Anyone know the name of the 12th member of the Riverside Rovers? [...]
> I think I translated his name to "Sam" [...]
Sam he am.
> Morty & Ferdy
Their names are Morty and Ferdie. (Note the spelling.)
> Mitch [cow]
Mitch is a bull.
Lars
> Anyone know the name of the 12th member of the Riverside Rovers? [...]
> I think I translated his name to "Sam" [...]
Sam he am.
> Morty & Ferdy
Their names are Morty and Ferdie. (Note the spelling.)
> Mitch [cow]
Mitch is a bull.
Lars
Lars Jensen
Biquinho
Message 259 -
2004-01-28 at 19:10:40
Arthur Faria Jr. wrote:
>> By the way, I see you have written a number of Biquinho stories. Do
>> you have any thoughts on who his parents might be?
>
> No. [...] But if I'm not wrong, in Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree we can
> see that Fethry has a brother, that lumberman (lumberduck?) who
> appeared in a Barks story...
Whitewater, yeah. To be honest, I don't really see him working as
Fethry's brother -- they're too different, in my opinion. Oh well,
Biquinho has managed to get along without parents since 1982... :-)
Again, thanks for your help. We see almost no Brazilian stories in
Denmark, so it's hard for me to get a grip on these characters.
Lars
>> By the way, I see you have written a number of Biquinho stories. Do
>> you have any thoughts on who his parents might be?
>
> No. [...] But if I'm not wrong, in Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree we can
> see that Fethry has a brother, that lumberman (lumberduck?) who
> appeared in a Barks story...
Whitewater, yeah. To be honest, I don't really see him working as
Fethry's brother -- they're too different, in my opinion. Oh well,
Biquinho has managed to get along without parents since 1982... :-)
Again, thanks for your help. We see almost no Brazilian stories in
Denmark, so it's hard for me to get a grip on these characters.
Lars
Rich Bellacera
Riverside Rover #12?
Message 260 -
2004-01-28 at 19:45:01
Lars Jensen wrote:
>Sam he am.
Thanks for verifying that!
Here's an image of the team for anyone interested (including a the modern visual
image of Mrs. Fieldmouse):
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/ART/RiversideRovers.gif
>Their names are Morty and Ferdie. (Note the spelling.)
Yes, this is true. My use of a "Y" was a typo. However, I have recently acquired
many British comics where it is definitely spelled with a "Y."
>Mitch is a bull.
While it's true that one definition of "cow" is that of a "the mature female of
cattle," it is also true that another definition is "a domestic bovine animal
regardless of sex or age." "Ox" is also an acceptable word for the species of
domestic bovine mammals. "Bull" refers to "a male bovine; especially : an adult
uncastrated male," and Mitch is technically still a child. :-) So "cow" is
technically accurate. A young "female" cow is technically a "heifer."
In the case of Mitch I meant it merely as his species, not whether he was male or
female. :-) Clarabelle, Miss Bovina, Itsy-Betsy, Bertie the Jinx and Boniface
(Boinifacio) also fall into this same [cow] species.
BTW, are you still seeking an image of Vacation van Honk? I've been re-watching
some of my old DUCKTALES videos copied off the TV and have been keeping an eye out
for him, planning to take a snapshot when I encountered him if you still need it.
I don't have the episodes labelled so I don't know when I might see him though.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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>Sam he am.
Thanks for verifying that!
Here's an image of the team for anyone interested (including a the modern visual
image of Mrs. Fieldmouse):
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/ART/RiversideRovers.gif
>Their names are Morty and Ferdie. (Note the spelling.)
Yes, this is true. My use of a "Y" was a typo. However, I have recently acquired
many British comics where it is definitely spelled with a "Y."
>Mitch is a bull.
While it's true that one definition of "cow" is that of a "the mature female of
cattle," it is also true that another definition is "a domestic bovine animal
regardless of sex or age." "Ox" is also an acceptable word for the species of
domestic bovine mammals. "Bull" refers to "a male bovine; especially : an adult
uncastrated male," and Mitch is technically still a child. :-) So "cow" is
technically accurate. A young "female" cow is technically a "heifer."
In the case of Mitch I meant it merely as his species, not whether he was male or
female. :-) Clarabelle, Miss Bovina, Itsy-Betsy, Bertie the Jinx and Boniface
(Boinifacio) also fall into this same [cow] species.
BTW, are you still seeking an image of Vacation van Honk? I've been re-watching
some of my old DUCKTALES videos copied off the TV and have been keeping an eye out
for him, planning to take a snapshot when I encountered him if you still need it.
I don't have the episodes labelled so I don't know when I might see him though.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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Rich Bellacera
Biquinho
Message 261 -
2004-01-28 at 20:25:31
Arthur Faria/Lars Jensen discussed:
>> No. [...] But if I'm not wrong, in Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree we can
>> see that Fethry has a brother, that lumberman (lumberduck?) who
>> appeared in a Barks story...
>Whitewater, yeah. To be honest, I don't really see him working as
>Fethry's brother -- they're too different, in my opinion. Oh well,
>Biquinho has managed to get along without parents since 1982... :-)
I'm inclined to agree that Whitewater's temperment really seemed
so diverse from that of Fethry's, while Biquinho/Dugan Duck seems
to be much closer to Fethry, at least in appearance.
As I seem to recall Don Rosa's explanation, he just sort of threw
Fethry onto the same branch as Whitewater in order to fulfill the
requirements of an editorial request. He didn't seem to care if
it was a logical choice or not, and the impression I got, was that
Mr. Rosa never really planned to revisit that part of the tree in
any future stories to justify it anyhow. Perhaps some other creator
will take up the task if they be so moved.
Still, Whitewater does have black string-like hair, though trimmed
much closer than Fethry and Dugan's long wild mops. As a mountain
man, maybe Whitewater is a widower and not inclined to raise a
child on his own? Evenso, as David is known to remind me, we have
absolutely NO evidence that Whitewater and Dugan are father and son.
The only things we do know are:
1) that Biquinho/Dugan is Fethry's nephew and
2) that Fethry, Dugan and Whitewater all share the surname of "Duck."
Until, or unless some creator takes up the task of defining Fethry
and Dugan's blood relationship, we'll probably never know.
While Fethry has made a number of appearances, even as far back as
the 1960s, Dugan (and Fethry's girlfriend Gloria) have yet to appear
in comics published in the USA, also. Nor have Fethry's alter-egos
appeared here.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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>> No. [...] But if I'm not wrong, in Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree we can
>> see that Fethry has a brother, that lumberman (lumberduck?) who
>> appeared in a Barks story...
>Whitewater, yeah. To be honest, I don't really see him working as
>Fethry's brother -- they're too different, in my opinion. Oh well,
>Biquinho has managed to get along without parents since 1982... :-)
I'm inclined to agree that Whitewater's temperment really seemed
so diverse from that of Fethry's, while Biquinho/Dugan Duck seems
to be much closer to Fethry, at least in appearance.
As I seem to recall Don Rosa's explanation, he just sort of threw
Fethry onto the same branch as Whitewater in order to fulfill the
requirements of an editorial request. He didn't seem to care if
it was a logical choice or not, and the impression I got, was that
Mr. Rosa never really planned to revisit that part of the tree in
any future stories to justify it anyhow. Perhaps some other creator
will take up the task if they be so moved.
Still, Whitewater does have black string-like hair, though trimmed
much closer than Fethry and Dugan's long wild mops. As a mountain
man, maybe Whitewater is a widower and not inclined to raise a
child on his own? Evenso, as David is known to remind me, we have
absolutely NO evidence that Whitewater and Dugan are father and son.
The only things we do know are:
1) that Biquinho/Dugan is Fethry's nephew and
2) that Fethry, Dugan and Whitewater all share the surname of "Duck."
Until, or unless some creator takes up the task of defining Fethry
and Dugan's blood relationship, we'll probably never know.
While Fethry has made a number of appearances, even as far back as
the 1960s, Dugan (and Fethry's girlfriend Gloria) have yet to appear
in comics published in the USA, also. Nor have Fethry's alter-egos
appeared here.
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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KUR
DCML Digest Issue 36
Message 262 -
2004-01-28 at 21:53:18
Don Rosa :
> I think it will be another "Three Caballeros" story, this one set in
Jose's
> Brazil since the last one was set in Panchito's Mexico. And it might amuse
> the folks there (if they aren't too upset that I don't follow their
version
> of Jose as a bum/con man) when I tour parts of Brazil during the Recife
> comic festival I'm invited to in May.
Wow!!!! The "Three Caballeros ride agian" story was great (propebly the best
Duck story I ever sene) sow I relly happy theat Jose and Panchito will be
back soon. I think they are very cool charecter's and It's sad they don't
aperd often in Egmont storys :-((
In dis new story, will there be a musical number agian? I relly like the one
from "The Tree Caballeros ride agian" :-)
Yours
Maciek Kur
> I think it will be another "Three Caballeros" story, this one set in
Jose's
> Brazil since the last one was set in Panchito's Mexico. And it might amuse
> the folks there (if they aren't too upset that I don't follow their
version
> of Jose as a bum/con man) when I tour parts of Brazil during the Recife
> comic festival I'm invited to in May.
Wow!!!! The "Three Caballeros ride agian" story was great (propebly the best
Duck story I ever sene) sow I relly happy theat Jose and Panchito will be
back soon. I think they are very cool charecter's and It's sad they don't
aperd often in Egmont storys :-((
In dis new story, will there be a musical number agian? I relly like the one
from "The Tree Caballeros ride agian" :-)
Yours
Maciek Kur
Jonathan H. Gray
About Daisy
Message 263 -
2004-01-28 at 21:53:52
Coming in late to the conversation ^^;;
Sorry to say it but Daisy has always been my least favorite Duck character.
=\ Sometimes she's can be written so obnoxiously shallow or as such a
blatant stereotype that it can get outright crazy. The fact that she can be
written as such being so "itchy-bay" at times is kinda what turns me off.
Theres a difference between being a strong female lead and being a loon just
to be one. :P Its probably exaggerating of me to say so, but there are
several times I've read her where she seems to single handedly set women
back 50 years. -_-
In a select few Daisy Duck Diary stories she can turn out OK, and as much as
I despise everything else about that show, Quack Pack had probably one of
the best characterizations of her (along with a somewhat nifty design). But
otherwise Daisy has never really been my favorite unless she's toned down
from what she was considerable.
One story I've always wanted to read for years was one I heard that either
Romano Scarpa or Giorgio Cavazzano did in which Donald fell in love with
another woman who actually treated him right. Unfortunately it couldnt work
due to some reason or another and he ended up at the end back with Daisy.
Sounds like it was poignant and I dont remember where I read the description
of it at. Sound familiar to anybody?
Jonathan H. Gray
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Sonic #134, #138
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>From: "Simon de Beer" <sdebeer at talk21.com>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: About Daisy
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:09:12 -0000
>
>Contrary to other views, I am a great fan of daisy. Yes, of course in some
>stories her character is not rounded and she only exists to act as a foil
>for Donald to facilitate plot development.
>
>However, this is not the whole story. I especially enjoy her character in
>Barks & Strobl Dear Diary stories. Yes, daisy is "self-centred, selfish
>bitch" some of the time, but this is what makes her so interesting.
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Sorry to say it but Daisy has always been my least favorite Duck character.
=\ Sometimes she's can be written so obnoxiously shallow or as such a
blatant stereotype that it can get outright crazy. The fact that she can be
written as such being so "itchy-bay" at times is kinda what turns me off.
Theres a difference between being a strong female lead and being a loon just
to be one. :P Its probably exaggerating of me to say so, but there are
several times I've read her where she seems to single handedly set women
back 50 years. -_-
In a select few Daisy Duck Diary stories she can turn out OK, and as much as
I despise everything else about that show, Quack Pack had probably one of
the best characterizations of her (along with a somewhat nifty design). But
otherwise Daisy has never really been my favorite unless she's toned down
from what she was considerable.
One story I've always wanted to read for years was one I heard that either
Romano Scarpa or Giorgio Cavazzano did in which Donald fell in love with
another woman who actually treated him right. Unfortunately it couldnt work
due to some reason or another and he ended up at the end back with Daisy.
Sounds like it was poignant and I dont remember where I read the description
of it at. Sound familiar to anybody?
Jonathan H. Gray
New Artist Of The "Sonic The Hedgehog" Comic!
Sonic #134, #138
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>From: "Simon de Beer" <sdebeer at talk21.com>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: About Daisy
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:09:12 -0000
>
>Contrary to other views, I am a great fan of daisy. Yes, of course in some
>stories her character is not rounded and she only exists to act as a foil
>for Donald to facilitate plot development.
>
>However, this is not the whole story. I especially enjoy her character in
>Barks & Strobl Dear Diary stories. Yes, daisy is "self-centred, selfish
>bitch" some of the time, but this is what makes her so interesting.
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Uncle Scrooge/Law-Abiding
Message 264 -
2004-01-28 at 21:59:31
As a general statement, the Europeans tend to take a
>more socialized view that somehow gathering great wealth is bad, and
>therefore must have been done illegally or at least immorally, and that
>great wealth must be redistributed. Americans admire the Bill Gates
Heehee - you've obviously never met half my computer geek friends. ^__^
Jonathan H. Gray
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>more socialized view that somehow gathering great wealth is bad, and
>therefore must have been done illegally or at least immorally, and that
>great wealth must be redistributed. Americans admire the Bill Gates
Heehee - you've obviously never met half my computer geek friends. ^__^
Jonathan H. Gray
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Donald and the girls
Message 265 -
2004-01-28 at 22:18:32
>
>Hi,
>
>Donald had an exciting romantic adventure with Miss Swansdown-Swoonsudden
>in "Jet Rescue" (WDC 67). He's also quite partial to other girls in Italian
>Disney comics, I believe, most of all to Reginella, who appeared in a
>series of Cavazzano drawn stories:
>
>http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/disney/cavazzano/avventura-sottomarina.jpg
>
>Frank
>
Speak of the devil - if that aint the exact story I was talking about. @_@
Seems like it'd be a pretty good one to find and print someday on down the
road too...
**Sends a look at Gemstone**
NUDGENUDGEWINKWINKHINTHINTNUDGE :)
Jonathan H. Gray
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>Hi,
>
>Donald had an exciting romantic adventure with Miss Swansdown-Swoonsudden
>in "Jet Rescue" (WDC 67). He's also quite partial to other girls in Italian
>Disney comics, I believe, most of all to Reginella, who appeared in a
>series of Cavazzano drawn stories:
>
>http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/disney/cavazzano/avventura-sottomarina.jpg
>
>Frank
>
Speak of the devil - if that aint the exact story I was talking about. @_@
Seems like it'd be a pretty good one to find and print someday on down the
road too...
**Sends a look at Gemstone**
NUDGENUDGEWINKWINKHINTHINTNUDGE :)
Jonathan H. Gray
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Sonic #134, #138
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How to mark Carl Barks' 103th birthday
Message 266 -
2004-01-28 at 23:05:57
March 27, 2004: Barks' 103th birthday. How to spend it?
How to mark the occasion?
Well: you might consider going to Tralla La, or a decent copy
thereof. Such a tour is in fact being organised, by Norwegian
Donaldists Tor ?demark and Torill Hylland. The "Tralla La"
in question is the valley between Stalheim and Gudvangen,
on the west coast of Norway. Hylland appears to be the owner
of Gudvangen Fjordhotel, and she has tried to make her hotel,
and its vicinity, have resemblances to the famous Tralla La valley.
(And two of her cooks have been picked from Neuschwanstein
in southern Germany; there lies the castle that reportedly gave
Walt Disney the inspiration for the Sleeping Beauty castle of
Disneyland.)
The tour is (apparently) open to everyone worthy of the "Donaldist"
or "Barksist" label. The tour involves:
* Friday 26th: Bus from Oslo to Gudvangen, ultra-scenic ride.
Various Barksian events at night.
* Saturday 27th: Excursion costs 10 bottlecaps. Boattrip to the
famous & scenic Fl?m. More Tralla La events. Dinner with
speeches and lectures (?).
* Sunday 28th: Long breakfast, more seminars (?). Then bus
to Oslo at 13:00.
The total price, for bus Oslo - Gudvangen and back, two nights,
dinners and lunches and breakfasts, according to the invitation
I got in the mail today, is NOK 950 (about Euro 120; quite a
reasonable price, I'd say, for Norway; a similar weekend with
ordinary hotel prices would easily cost the double).
Tor ?demark has been an active Barksist and comics fan for a
number of years. He has published articles in various fan-magazines,
and once in the mid-1980ies (?) he went to Oregon to meet Barks,
the whole thing covered in the press.
If you are interested, you may contact Mr ?demark at tor at nortur.no ,
or telephone (+47) 22 80 37 30.
Nils Lid Hjort
PS: I am simply reporting the basic facts of the invitation I received
today, and have nothing to do with either T? or the arrangement!
I do assume that it is ok for me to report on this event on the DCML,
as the organisers ask us to make it "more public", and to mention this
to persons that they might have "forgotten". While this is geared mostly
towards the vaguely defined crowd of "Norwegian Barks fans who
might have known Tor ?demark 10-20-30 years ago", it is clear that
also people outside this core segment will be welcomed. I notice that
both Don Rosa and Marco Rota are on the invitees list. -- This list is
a bit "pre industrial revolution", dating essentially to the pre-email
and pre-DCML days, I observe; there are arguably "famous present
names" not on the list, etc.
How to mark the occasion?
Well: you might consider going to Tralla La, or a decent copy
thereof. Such a tour is in fact being organised, by Norwegian
Donaldists Tor ?demark and Torill Hylland. The "Tralla La"
in question is the valley between Stalheim and Gudvangen,
on the west coast of Norway. Hylland appears to be the owner
of Gudvangen Fjordhotel, and she has tried to make her hotel,
and its vicinity, have resemblances to the famous Tralla La valley.
(And two of her cooks have been picked from Neuschwanstein
in southern Germany; there lies the castle that reportedly gave
Walt Disney the inspiration for the Sleeping Beauty castle of
Disneyland.)
The tour is (apparently) open to everyone worthy of the "Donaldist"
or "Barksist" label. The tour involves:
* Friday 26th: Bus from Oslo to Gudvangen, ultra-scenic ride.
Various Barksian events at night.
* Saturday 27th: Excursion costs 10 bottlecaps. Boattrip to the
famous & scenic Fl?m. More Tralla La events. Dinner with
speeches and lectures (?).
* Sunday 28th: Long breakfast, more seminars (?). Then bus
to Oslo at 13:00.
The total price, for bus Oslo - Gudvangen and back, two nights,
dinners and lunches and breakfasts, according to the invitation
I got in the mail today, is NOK 950 (about Euro 120; quite a
reasonable price, I'd say, for Norway; a similar weekend with
ordinary hotel prices would easily cost the double).
Tor ?demark has been an active Barksist and comics fan for a
number of years. He has published articles in various fan-magazines,
and once in the mid-1980ies (?) he went to Oregon to meet Barks,
the whole thing covered in the press.
If you are interested, you may contact Mr ?demark at tor at nortur.no ,
or telephone (+47) 22 80 37 30.
Nils Lid Hjort
PS: I am simply reporting the basic facts of the invitation I received
today, and have nothing to do with either T? or the arrangement!
I do assume that it is ok for me to report on this event on the DCML,
as the organisers ask us to make it "more public", and to mention this
to persons that they might have "forgotten". While this is geared mostly
towards the vaguely defined crowd of "Norwegian Barks fans who
might have known Tor ?demark 10-20-30 years ago", it is clear that
also people outside this core segment will be welcomed. I notice that
both Don Rosa and Marco Rota are on the invitees list. -- This list is
a bit "pre industrial revolution", dating essentially to the pre-email
and pre-DCML days, I observe; there are arguably "famous present
names" not on the list, etc.
Matthew Williams
Vacation Van Honk
Message 267 -
2004-01-29 at 03:40:28
Rich,
To the best of my memory Vacation Van Honk is in "Sir Gyro Do Gearloose"
(his automatic dressing machine is on the fritz near the beginning of the
episode) and "Magica's Shadow War" (Magica's shadow tries to steal his
wallet). What's the story behind this most minor of characters? Ws he ever
intended to have a bigger role in the series?
Matt
To the best of my memory Vacation Van Honk is in "Sir Gyro Do Gearloose"
(his automatic dressing machine is on the fritz near the beginning of the
episode) and "Magica's Shadow War" (Magica's shadow tries to steal his
wallet). What's the story behind this most minor of characters? Ws he ever
intended to have a bigger role in the series?
Matt
Danehog
Thoughts on Daisy
Message 268 -
2004-01-29 at 05:45:31
I know this contribution is late, but (insert predictable clich? here).
Daisy is characterless. She exists for her stereotype. She has no real,
identified personality. But despite all of this, don't we NEED her? What would
Disney (the comics and otherwise) be without her? Although she exists for the sole
purpose of being Donald's girl friend, we NEED someone to exist for that
reason. "Flat" characters should be a part of any "universe," whether it's in a
cartoon or TV show or novel - even "flat" characters who appear regularly.
Believe it or not, certain scenarios (in the cartoons more than the comics,
admittedly) have worked really well with Daisy, one of the Disney universe's
truly weak characters.
And although she appears frequently in merchandising and whatnot, I think she
was used (fittingly) sparingly in the cartoons and comics. The character
worked - and still does, to an extent.
Daisy shouldn't be criticized as a character, since, in a way, she ISN'T one.
She's a plot device. All good literature needs its character-disguised plot
devices.
Thanks for making your way through this fragmented drivel. Are there any
thoughts on my views? How completely "off" am I?
Dane
Daisy is characterless. She exists for her stereotype. She has no real,
identified personality. But despite all of this, don't we NEED her? What would
Disney (the comics and otherwise) be without her? Although she exists for the sole
purpose of being Donald's girl friend, we NEED someone to exist for that
reason. "Flat" characters should be a part of any "universe," whether it's in a
cartoon or TV show or novel - even "flat" characters who appear regularly.
Believe it or not, certain scenarios (in the cartoons more than the comics,
admittedly) have worked really well with Daisy, one of the Disney universe's
truly weak characters.
And although she appears frequently in merchandising and whatnot, I think she
was used (fittingly) sparingly in the cartoons and comics. The character
worked - and still does, to an extent.
Daisy shouldn't be criticized as a character, since, in a way, she ISN'T one.
She's a plot device. All good literature needs its character-disguised plot
devices.
Thanks for making your way through this fragmented drivel. Are there any
thoughts on my views? How completely "off" am I?
Dane
Danehog
Mickey Mouse in Color - Reissued?
Message 269 -
2004-01-29 at 05:49:07
Is everyone aware that Gemstone has apparently rereleased the popular version
of the "Mickey Mouse in Color" book that appeared during the early Gladstone
days? I've seen it in two separate (American) comic shops. I'm not sure if
it's a reprint or "leftovers" from the original print - I didn't check.
Just thought I'd alert everyone; sorry if this is old news.
Dane
of the "Mickey Mouse in Color" book that appeared during the early Gladstone
days? I've seen it in two separate (American) comic shops. I'm not sure if
it's a reprint or "leftovers" from the original print - I didn't check.
Just thought I'd alert everyone; sorry if this is old news.
Dane
YMH
Gemstone Coloring
Message 270 -
2004-01-29 at 08:15:06
In a message dated 1/28/2004 1:43:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, Don Rosa
writes:
the coloring on my stuff
in the Gemstones has been lovely!
Hmm... I've actually been rather disappointed by the Gemstone coloring in
general... Everything seems to be rather flat; there isn't much done in terms of
lighting and depth, and sometimes, collections of details in the background
are just colored a uniform shade instead of being colored individually. Gary, is
this a deliberate choice to make the comics look more "cartoony" than they
would otherwise, or is it a matter of the amount of time available to color the
stories? If the former, would you be willing to experiment and see which kind
of coloring readers like better? :-)
writes:
the coloring on my stuff
in the Gemstones has been lovely!
Hmm... I've actually been rather disappointed by the Gemstone coloring in
general... Everything seems to be rather flat; there isn't much done in terms of
lighting and depth, and sometimes, collections of details in the background
are just colored a uniform shade instead of being colored individually. Gary, is
this a deliberate choice to make the comics look more "cartoony" than they
would otherwise, or is it a matter of the amount of time available to color the
stories? If the former, would you be willing to experiment and see which kind
of coloring readers like better? :-)