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Mads:

> Does anybody know if Gemstone will be participarting in the Free Comic
> Book Day (FCBD) on July 3rd this year ?

Gemstone will. The story's picked, and the material is being worked up.
I don't think the contents are meant to be any kind of secret by this
point, but I'll tease a bit by only saying it features one of Carl
Barks' more unusual efforts.

Gary

I think Scrooge regards himself as an honest businessman.
There is, for example, that wonderful scene in "Micro-Ducks
from Outer Space" (US65) where he carefully counts up the
exact amount of tiny gold coins as payment for the grain the
micro-ducks want to buy.

But he can fall victim to his own greed and take unfair
advantage of a situation. Afterwards, he sometimes feels
guilt.

And if he feels threatened, he looses his temper. And then
he may scream things like "I'm Scrooge McDuck! You can't
arrest me!".

Fortunately, the Duckburg judges are not intimidated. In
"The Money Champ" (US27), the judge fines him five gold
mines for fighting Glomgold in the courtroom.

So I guess like the rest of us he's not above the law.

Nils Smeby

I've thoroughly enjoyed what folks have had to say about Daisy, and I've
been disappointed that the thread hasn't drawn more attention. IMHO, I
think Daisy ISN'T a very satisfying character most of the time. Even though
she's been around since 1937, she still hasn't rested into one consistent
characterization. We have Donna Duck in "Don Donald" who has a temperament
that's probably fierier than Donald's. We have the collection of sexist
stereotypes that is Barks's Daisy (pardon my arrogance for knocking the
greatest duck writer of all time, but his vision of Daisy isn't
exactly.progressive). On the other hand, the Daisy's Diary stories present
a varying Daisy that sometimes passively takes in the world around her but
occasionally comes off a satisfying adult character. There's the
self-involved Daisy from House of Mouse (I hate the show with a passion but
Daisy's character on the show is sort of interesting). My memory of the
disappointing Quack Pack is dim, but wasn't Daisy a highly motivated TV
journalist and career woman on that show? I think Daisy is the only big
Disney character who has almost no nailed down characterization. Who she is
is very reflective of her time period and the writers or artists who are
working with her.

Daisy has her moments, even though her character has so many diverse
incarnations! Some of my favorite Daisy moments (in no particular order)
are.

*The Donald short cartoon, "Donald's Dilemma." She's a strongly
identifiable character here, and I love when she shouts "ME! ME! ME!"
*The Donald short cartoon, "Daisy's Diary." She is a really sexist
stereotype there, but she is awful funny. I love how she looks after the
honeymoon is over! I love all of the sailors outside of the chapel too!
*The Blocks' "Three Little Cupids." Daisy's a perfect match for Donald in
this story! She actually has a tangible personality that isn't an
unrealistic superwoman or a sexist stereotype.
*Van Horn's "Heavy Duty." I love the unwitting destruction she wreaks on
Donald in this story.
*Janet Gilbert's "Night Shift." Daisy's a realistic, psychologically
satisfying character in a very absurd situation. This story really tickled
me!

Well, that's what I think anyway!

Matt

In a message dated 1/24/2004 5:02:20 AM Central Standard Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

> >Does anybody know if Gemstone will be participarting in the Free Comic
> >Book Day (FCBD) on July 3rd this year ?
>
> Gemstone will. The story's picked, and the material is being worked up.
> I don't think the contents are meant to be any kind of secret by this
> point, but I'll tease a bit by only saying it features one of Carl
> Barks' more unusual efforts.
>
> Gary
>

It was previously stated that it would be a Barks Mickey Mouse story.
To tease us now would be which, Riddle of the Red Hat?

> I've thoroughly enjoyed what folks have had to say about Daisy, and I've
> been disappointed that the thread hasn't drawn more attention. IMHO, I
> think Daisy ISN'T a very satisfying character most of the time. (...)

> Daisy has her moments, even though her character has so many diverse
> incarnations! Some of my favorite Daisy moments (in no particular order)
> are.

> *The Donald short cartoon, "Donald's Dilemma." She's a strongly
> identifiable character here, and I love when she shouts "ME! ME! ME!"
> *The Donald short cartoon, "Daisy's Diary." She is a really sexist
> stereotype there, but she is awful funny. I love how she looks after the
> honeymoon is over! I love all of the sailors outside of the chapel too!
> *The Blocks' "Three Little Cupids." Daisy's a perfect match for Donald in
> this story! She actually has a tangible personality that isn't an
> unrealistic superwoman or a sexist stereotype.
> *Van Horn's "Heavy Duty." I love the unwitting destruction she wreaks on
> Donald in this story.
> *Janet Gilbert's "Night Shift." Daisy's a realistic, psychologically
> satisfying character in a very absurd situation. This story really
tickled
> me!

Matt, unfortunately you never read any of the hundreds of Brazilian
Daisy stories published in her own comic book "Margarida" from 1986 to 1997
(257 issues) You can see some covers at:

http://www.papersera.net/vilaxurupita/mg/mg001_025.htm

and complete issue indexing in Inducks. The Brazilian creators opted for
turning that old silly Daisy Duck into a modern, liberated woman who
coincidently was a "highly motivated TV" (and also newspaper) "journalist
and career woman". This "New Daisy", as she was known, was created
several years before Quack Pack and House of Mouse shows (just
for your information)

Anyway, I'm sure you'd love to read those Brazilian Daisy stories ---
which were also published in Italy, some in France and few
in Denmark I guess. (Maybe other countries don't like motivated
female characters... :-)

-- Arthur.

Olaf Solstrand said:
>Maybe the I in "I-Team" also stands for information or
information technology.

The "Information Team"? That makes sense to me, too. IT is an acronym
for Information
Technology here in the USA, too.

>> I'm guessing that "Riverside" is the name of a neighboring town to
>> Mouseton, also?

>I always thought of that name as "the rovers at the riverside in
>Mouseton(/Duckburg)". As far as I remember, their soccer field is by the
>river, isn't it? Also, in Norwegian translations it's translated
>accurately, into "Elvebreddskameratene" (riverside mates).

O.K. That could very well be the case in the US English version of the story, too, but I'm not sure it's very common in many towns to have more than one "team" representing the town, unless, I guess, if the town is quite large enough to accommodate many teams. In the story, as presented in MM&F, the "Mouseton" team was already full so Mrs. Fieldmouse opted to sign her sons and Gilbert up with the Riverside Rovers who happened to be sharing practice in the same park as the "FC Mouseton Juniors" (the local Mouseton team). In my own experience, my hometown was spread out so far that there was definitely more than one team representing my town, but we weren't close enough to share the same practice field. So, I guess you could be right. It would also explain why Morty, Ferdie & Gilbert had never met any of the other kids before, too if they all live in Mouseton.

Thanks, Rich

Thanks to Olaf the Blue for sharing his knowledge of the I-Team last time the subject was brought up, but now that we've
had a few stories with them here in the USA it can be added that the translators seem to have favored calling P.C. (the
cat-faced girl) "Sonya" and Benny (the owl-faced boy) "Beaky" instead of a direct carryover of the already English naming. I
wonder why those names were changed and Mack (the dog-faced boy) and CLINT the computer remaind unchanged?

Oh, since it wasn't mentioned in Olaf message last time, the name CLINT is an acronym for "Computer Limited
Intelligence Nutty Technocrat" (according to the database).

However, I still don't know what the "I" in "I-Team" stands for. Anyone know?

Now, concerning the Riverside Rovers, the Soccer Team which Gilbert, Morty & Ferdie joined; their first appearance in the
USA was published in "MICKEY MOUSE & FRIENDS" # 261. Having only seen them previously in Danish and Chinese
publications, and never this "origin" tale, I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it! As i said, having not seen this story until now, I
sort of felt Gilbert's membership on the team seemed out-of-character, but now I totally understand. I loved it.

Another interesting thing brought up in the story is that we learn that Morty & Ferdie live in..... "Mouseton".... Uh, that's the
first time I've seen Gemstone use that name. I'm pleased. Also, apparently their mother (who makes her modern-day
debut in the USA, I think) writes for the Mouseton Argus, which I assume is Mouseton's newspaper?

I'm guessing that "Riverside" is the name of a neighboring town to Mouseton, also?

I look forward to more of the Riverside Rovers in future issues of Gemstone publications. So far, the team-players who
were named match those of other countries where these tales have appeared. Only Nipper, Pat, Mitch and Husky are the
only ones named so far. It remains to be seen if the rest will be called Spike, Sly, Kevin & Wally, and the last member ,
#12, whose name escapes me at the moment , will be named thusly.

I hope Gemstone will opt to publish some of the newer Junior Woodchuck stories featuring the moguls Bertie McGoose &
Clarissa von Scout in the near future as well.

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera
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Thank you so much, Arthur! I'm fascinated by the covers, particularly
Daisy's trendy clothing. I'm intrigued by the glimpses I've gotten of
Brazilian Disney comics over the years. Unfortunately, I've never had the
opportunity to actually read any translated comics. I'm hope to see a
greater international scope represented in the US one day!

Matt