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Subject: Re: Height of Mickey,Donald,Goofy
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:03:40 +0100
From: Olaf Solstrand <olaf at andebyonline.com>
To: Thomas Pryds Lauritsen <thomas at duckburg.dk>
References: <20040131000302.93110.qmail at web12008.mail.yahoo.com>
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I remember that in an old Barks story (too bad I can't remember which
one), Magica de Spell transformed herself into looking like Scrooge. To
do that, she had to first foof him and then measure him to find out how
high he was (to make the transformation perfect). In the Norwegian
translation, she found out that Scrooge was 99 centimetres high.

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Anders Christian Siveb?k:

> Others will probably point this out, but just for the
> record, Matilda is not Don's creation.
> Her looks is, I think, as Barks has never drawn her or
> used her in a story, but he has used her
> on the two family trees he made.

Well, since Carl Barks only provided her name, and Don
Rosa
designed her looks and provided her with a character, I'd
say Matilda actually *is* Don's creation.
Would you say that James Bond was *not* Ian Fleming's
creation, only because he borrowed the name from an
ornithologist friend of his?

Don Rosa:

> I made up absolutely NO characters in that Tree except
> those necessitated by already existing characters so that
> there's be no out-of-wedlock shenanigans.
> Making up characters for no reason would have violated my > entire purpose.

To illustrate Don's statement:
of all 43 characters in Don's tree
15 have been portrayed and named in Barks' stories
8 were only named in Barks' stories
6 have names taken from Barks' tree
3 have names taken from other sources
and only 10 characters were entirely made up by Don Rosa.

These 10 characters are: Cuthbert's parents and
grandparents
[to link Cuthbert to Cornelius Coot], $crooge's parents
and grandparents, Whitewater's mother [to link Whitewater
to Eider Duck] and HDnL's father.

And the 43th character is Fethry.

Greetings,

Michiel Prior.

Michael
>
>
>Well, since Carl Barks only provided her name, and Don
>Rosa
>designed her looks and provided her with a character, I'd
>say Matilda actually *is* Don's creation.

You're entitled to have that opinion and I disagree.
But all in all, i just wanted to point out what you also say - that
Barks gave her the name - that she wasn't made up by Don -
I just wanted to be sure that was known.

>Would you say that James Bond was *not* Ian Fleming's
>creation, only because he borrowed the name from an
>ornithologist friend of his?
Erm - I don't know - I don't usually speak about things I don't
know much about - i try not to at least.

Barks gave Matilda some position - in one of his trees, if
I'm not mistaken, he made her be Gladstone's adoptive mother -
is that not so?

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

M. Mitchell Marmel:

>>>>> http://folklore.org/StoryView.py
>>>>project=Macintosh&story=Scrooge_McDuck.txt&topic=Prototypes&sortOrder=So
rt%20by
>>>>20Date&detail=medium

Great link & story! Thanks!

"I selected an image of Scrooge McDuck sitting on top of a huge pile of
money bags, blithely playing his fiddle, with a big grin on his beak."

Cover art, obviously-- I certainly don't remember him plauing the fiddle in
any story.
Can anyone identify it?
A link to an image would be nice-- then sending it to Andy Hertzfeld so that
he can display it on the page (he apparently couldn't find it, as the image
is one of Scrooge playing with his money).

Olivier

MJ Prior
>
>
>That's true. Carl Barks gave $crooge two sisters *and* he
>named them Matilda and Hortense. But when Lars Jensen
>referred to Matilda as "Don's character", he was talking
>about how she looks - and that's entirely Don's design.
Erm - well, I didn't realize that at the time.
So i just wanted to make a thing clear that seems to be
clear to all now.
>
>That's correct. Gladstone was born to Luke the Goose and
>Daphne Duck, who both died from overeating at a free lunch
>picknick. Gladstone was then adopted by Matilda McDuck and
>Goosetave Gander. Matilda's only function in Barks' tree
>was to provide a solution to how Gladstone could be
>related to both Grandma and $crooge.
>
>http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/barks.html

Thanks for this info :-)
>
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

From Barks' story, it's clear that Donald and his cousin knew each other very
well. They are very friendly, and Donald has come unannounced to help with the
Spring Roundup. It is clear he has been at his cousin's ranch before, and
Cuthbirt has no problem (nee actually is glad)with Donald's having come for an
unannounced visit.

As to the location of the ranch - Donald says The Ducks came "down" to the
ranch. That can mean only two things: They drove in a southward direction,
and/or they lowered in elevation to get there. I suspect, that it is probably
both. In USA, in map/compass directions, down refers only to south. No one
travels down north. One says: "back east", "out west", "up north", and "down
south". Further, the landscape around Cuthbert's ranch is desert or semi-desert
(at best). Such a climate cannot exist close to Duckburg. It must be at least
several hours of auto driving away. In addition, it must be on the lee side of
high mountains, and also probably lower in elevation (e.g. below see level), to
have such a difference in climate, so nearby. This is quite possible, as
Calisota is on the US West Coast, between California and Oregon, and thus, must
have a high mountain range connecting the Sierra Nevada Mountains of
California, with the Cascade mountains of Washington and Oregon. Barks'
portrayal of The Eagleclaw Wilderness and Aeolian Mountains fits that
requirement. The Aeolians are so barren, as they are the second mountain range
moving easterly from The Pacific Ocean. They are in the rain shadow of the
extremely high Eagleclaw Mountains (similar to the drier White mountains east
of The lofty Sierra Nevada Range. Cuthbert's ranch must be a fair way south,
and a bit east of the highest portion of the Aeolian Mountains (thus suffering
from the double rainshadow (as does Death Valley-just east of The Panamint
Range-first range east of Sierra Nevada Mountains, south of the White
Mountains). Donald must have driven southeastward through the Black Forest,
then continued through the lush green forests up the western slopes of The
Eagleclaw Mountains, then eastward through a narrow pass, then southeastward
down the slopes ofits"dry side", continued south and through a pass between the
drier Aeolian Mountains, down its dry side, and south another 100 miles or so.
The entire distance should be at least a 6hour drive, or at least 300 miles.

That distance and time/distance is consistant with The Cuthbert Coot story, and
with Barks other stories in which The Ducks drive in there car, and after
several hours, reach desert landscape (Camel story, Dread Valley Sandy story,
Stone's throw from a ghost town, The Ghost Sheriff, etc.). In the Cousin Coot
story, Donald grabs the Kids, jumps in his car and starts driving. We see them
later, away from the city, and only 10 miles from the ranch. We have no idea
how long they've been driving. We don't even know if it is the same day.
Because of the extreme difference in climate, it cannot be anything near only
10 miles away. Such a short distance would only be in the outer suburbs of
Duckburg, or in the farmland just outside. I submit that the Boys were playing
in the early morning, and they took a six hour drive, arriving at the ranch in
early afternoon, the same day. I say the ranch is approximately 300 miles
southeast of Duckburg, across two mountain ranges, in the southeastern corner
of Calisota.

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I just found out that shamrock is a kind of Irish clover. Why is the
character Shamrock Bones named after this ? I can't see any Irish
connection to him.
Or is this some kind of English words play that I as a Swede fail to
understand ?

Ola in still raining on the snow in Stockholm

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Ola Martinsson asked:
> I just found out that shamrock is a kind of Irish clover. Why is the
> character Shamrock Bones named after this ? I can't see any Irish
> connection to him.
> Or is this some kind of English words play that I as a Swede fail to
> understand ?

Like Kriton Kyrimis suggests, it is a wordplay in the sense that Shamrock
Bones sounds very similar to the more famous detective Sherlock Holmes,
however, I believe there is a deeper reason for the use of "Shamrock."

Perhaps you [Ola} are not familiar with the folklore surrounding the
Irish clover "Shamrock"? Shamrock is very famous for supposedly bringing
"good luck." Mickey's pal detective, Shamrock Bones, is very good (like
his namesake) at solving mysteries and crimes... hence, he might even be
considered "lucky." "Bones" are also used in mystic ceremonies of some
cults to discern or reveal hidden knowledge. So, all-in-all, Shamrock
Bones is most likely given his fanciful name for various reasons, but most
assuredly because of it's similarity to Sherlock Holmes. I guess he could
have just as easily been called "Shereluck Jones" or something similar.

See: http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/shamrock.html

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera
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