Olaf Solstrand wrote:
>> A few years ago Andreas Pihl wrote a Donald/Mickey/Goofy
>> team-up for the pocket books.
>
> Lars, do you remember where this story is? I can't remember it, so I'm
> curious of where to find it.
http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/D+98246 . In Norway it's been
printed in Donald Pocket 269. In the US, it was printed in Gemstone's
recently-published Donald Duck Adventures #3.
Lars
Author
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Lars Jensen
DD pre-Barks
Message 46 -
2004-02-05 at 22:38:39
Olaf Solstrand
DD pre-Barks
Message 47 -
2004-02-05 at 22:43:55
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/D+98246 . In Norway it's been
> printed in Donald Pocket 269. In the US, it was printed in Gemstone's
> recently-published Donald Duck Adventures #3.
Naturally. I remember it now. Thanks.
> printed in Donald Pocket 269. In the US, it was printed in Gemstone's
> recently-published Donald Duck Adventures #3.
Naturally. I remember it now. Thanks.
Rich Bellacera
DD pre-Barks
Message 48 -
2004-02-05 at 22:46:07
Perhaps the original point of this discussion was lost somewhere, but if it merely
deals with the co-existence of DD & MM universes, as far as the USA is concerned,
Mouseton (Mouseville/Hometown) and Duckburg are both in Webfoot County in the
state of Calisota, so it's quite reasonable that the towns are relatively close to
eachother, and crossovers are entirely acceptable without the need for
Duckburgians or Moustonians needing to travel all that far... perhaps even less
distance between towns than for Grandma Duck to travel INTO Duckburg from her farm?
However, the seperation of the two towns equally expains why different Mayors,
different police chiefs and so forth exist for each, and especially why it is
commonplace NOT to see Mousetonians in Duckburg stories (and visa versa).
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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deals with the co-existence of DD & MM universes, as far as the USA is concerned,
Mouseton (Mouseville/Hometown) and Duckburg are both in Webfoot County in the
state of Calisota, so it's quite reasonable that the towns are relatively close to
eachother, and crossovers are entirely acceptable without the need for
Duckburgians or Moustonians needing to travel all that far... perhaps even less
distance between towns than for Grandma Duck to travel INTO Duckburg from her farm?
However, the seperation of the two towns equally expains why different Mayors,
different police chiefs and so forth exist for each, and especially why it is
commonplace NOT to see Mousetonians in Duckburg stories (and visa versa).
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
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Joseph Farrell
DCML Digest, Vol 12, Issue 8
Message 49 -
2004-02-05 at 23:53:16
Maybe I am completely wrong about this, but I seem to
recall reading somewhere that Barks originally had
intended to have Huey, Dewey, and/or Louie meet Gyro
in this story, but ran afoul of some absurd U.S.
postal regulation that required the magazine to
feature some different characters in the second story.
Perhaps on his own initiative, or perhaps on
instructions from Western, Barks then substituted
Morty and Ferdie, characters whom he would not have
used in the normal course of things.
Mickey wrote:
>> of course, Morty and Ferdie could have met Gyro and
Grandma at some
>> earlier Mouse Family/Duck Family get-together.
>
> I think it's the most probable hypothesis... [...]
>
> the problem: who considers Barks (and Rosa) as the
most reliable
> source, can't think that the families of DD and MM
live in the same
> city, since they're supposed to be friends but they
never meet...
Mickey, you believe Morty and Ferdie must have met
Gyro and Grandma at
some get-together, although Barks never showed this in
a story. Why
can't you believe Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse live in
the same city --
even though Barks never showed this in a story?!
>> And (some of) Barks' successors continue to this
day to let these
>> characters meet each other.
recall reading somewhere that Barks originally had
intended to have Huey, Dewey, and/or Louie meet Gyro
in this story, but ran afoul of some absurd U.S.
postal regulation that required the magazine to
feature some different characters in the second story.
Perhaps on his own initiative, or perhaps on
instructions from Western, Barks then substituted
Morty and Ferdie, characters whom he would not have
used in the normal course of things.
Mickey wrote:
>> of course, Morty and Ferdie could have met Gyro and
Grandma at some
>> earlier Mouse Family/Duck Family get-together.
>
> I think it's the most probable hypothesis... [...]
>
> the problem: who considers Barks (and Rosa) as the
most reliable
> source, can't think that the families of DD and MM
live in the same
> city, since they're supposed to be friends but they
never meet...
Mickey, you believe Morty and Ferdie must have met
Gyro and Grandma at
some get-together, although Barks never showed this in
a story. Why
can't you believe Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse live in
the same city --
even though Barks never showed this in a story?!
>> And (some of) Barks' successors continue to this
day to let these
>> characters meet each other.
Fernando Ventura
Two 'D's!
Message 50 -
2004-02-06 at 02:02:01
The "E" on a D-coded story means it's experimental, for example D/E
2000-003. And what about DD, for example D D 2000-013?
Fernando!
2000-003. And what about DD, for example D D 2000-013?
Fernando!
Stefan Persson
Two 'D's!
Message 51 -
2004-02-06 at 02:06:11
Fernando Ventura wrote:
> The "E" on a D-coded story means it's experimental, for example D/E
> 2000-003. And what about DD, for example D D 2000-013?
D = Development, I think.
Stefan
> The "E" on a D-coded story means it's experimental, for example D/E
> 2000-003. And what about DD, for example D D 2000-013?
D = Development, I think.
Stefan
Olaf Solstrand
Two 'D's!
Message 52 -
2004-02-06 at 02:08:51
P? Thu, 5 Feb 2004 22:02:01 -0200, skrev Fernando Ventura
<fernandopventura at uol.com.br>:
> The "E" on a D-coded story means it's experimental, for example D/E
> 2000-003. And what about DD, for example D D 2000-013?
That's "development" or "developing" or something like that. E.g. this
letter is often used for the new and evolving writers and artists.
<fernandopventura at uol.com.br>:
> The "E" on a D-coded story means it's experimental, for example D/E
> 2000-003. And what about DD, for example D D 2000-013?
That's "development" or "developing" or something like that. E.g. this
letter is often used for the new and evolving writers and artists.
Fernando Ventura
"D"² - Thanks!!!
Message 53 -
2004-02-06 at 03:01:04
Thank you so much, Stefan and Olaf! I've asked because I'm doing a little
review of ower last Mickey comic book (with 3 D-Coded) to this site:
http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/culturaalternativa2003/ !
Fernando! : )
review of ower last Mickey comic book (with 3 D-Coded) to this site:
http://geocities.yahoo.com.br/culturaalternativa2003/ !
Fernando! : )
Olaf Solstrand
Newsflashes
Message 54 -
2004-02-06 at 13:30:25
Wow, so much is going on in Norway(/Scandinavia) right now! Here's a few
examples:
-- Soon comes the new book series "Hall of Fame". Every book will focus on
a specific artist, with articles, personal comments and lots of comics. I
understand that in Don Rosa's case, the goal is to publish _all his stories
in chronological order_! (if anyone's interested in ordering this, try e-
mail hof at egmont.no or phone +47 24 05 13 10)
-- Last summer there was a competition in one of the biggest newspapers in
Norway, Dagbladet, where people were encouraged to write their own Donald
Duck scripts. The five winners are now picked out - according to editor
Tormod L?kling, many of them are good enough to deserve a place in the
weekly.
-- ...and a new competition is going on already. Kids up to the age of 15
can send their own Donald Duck comic strips or covers to the national TV
program "Etter skoletid" at NRK - every week they pick a winner, and all
the best strips will be printed in the weekly. Also, the best cover will be
redrawn by a professional artist and used on the weekly.
-- And finally: After the success in 2002, DON ROSA COMES BACK TO THE
RAPTUS FESTIVAL THIS SEPTEMBER! (I'm so thrilled because I know that this
year I will actually be there myself!)
examples:
-- Soon comes the new book series "Hall of Fame". Every book will focus on
a specific artist, with articles, personal comments and lots of comics. I
understand that in Don Rosa's case, the goal is to publish _all his stories
in chronological order_! (if anyone's interested in ordering this, try e-
mail hof at egmont.no or phone +47 24 05 13 10)
-- Last summer there was a competition in one of the biggest newspapers in
Norway, Dagbladet, where people were encouraged to write their own Donald
Duck scripts. The five winners are now picked out - according to editor
Tormod L?kling, many of them are good enough to deserve a place in the
weekly.
-- ...and a new competition is going on already. Kids up to the age of 15
can send their own Donald Duck comic strips or covers to the national TV
program "Etter skoletid" at NRK - every week they pick a winner, and all
the best strips will be printed in the weekly. Also, the best cover will be
redrawn by a professional artist and used on the weekly.
-- And finally: After the success in 2002, DON ROSA COMES BACK TO THE
RAPTUS FESTIVAL THIS SEPTEMBER! (I'm so thrilled because I know that this
year I will actually be there myself!)
M.J. Prior
Easter eggs
Message 55 -
2004-02-06 at 14:26:19
Alexander Hajenius:
> Issue 13/98, D95081, page 10, frame 7: "...dus ik zeg
> tegen Willem van Hoorn, de ijsco-koning, ik zeg, Willem
> ouwe jongen, DOE MIJ MAAR VANILLE! En bla bla bla..."
"DOE MIJ MAAR VANILLE!" looks like a literal quote from
Barks' "Voodoo Hoodoo". On the last page, in the last
panel, Donald says: "Let them have it! I'll take
vanilla!".
Michiel Prior.
> Issue 13/98, D95081, page 10, frame 7: "...dus ik zeg
> tegen Willem van Hoorn, de ijsco-koning, ik zeg, Willem
> ouwe jongen, DOE MIJ MAAR VANILLE! En bla bla bla..."
"DOE MIJ MAAR VANILLE!" looks like a literal quote from
Barks' "Voodoo Hoodoo". On the last page, in the last
panel, Donald says: "Let them have it! I'll take
vanilla!".
Michiel Prior.
Sdebeer
DCML Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9
Message 56 -
2004-02-06 at 15:40:54
Rich Bellacera wrote,
as far as the USA is concerned, Mouseton (Mouseville/Hometown) and Duckburg are both in Webfoot County
A bit like San Fransisco-Berkely or Mineapolis-St Paul being in the same county?
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as far as the USA is concerned, Mouseton (Mouseville/Hometown) and Duckburg are both in Webfoot County
A bit like San Fransisco-Berkely or Mineapolis-St Paul being in the same county?
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H.W.Fluks
Quiz
Message 57 -
2004-02-06 at 18:34:22
Sonia:
> Scrooge's money bin contains a particular diamond, that is the most
> famous one in the United States.
> What is the name of the diamond? What story?
I think it's the candy-striped ruby from The Status Seeker.
(In the Dutch translation it's not the "most famous in the US", but "the most expensive in the world".)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
> Scrooge's money bin contains a particular diamond, that is the most
> famous one in the United States.
> What is the name of the diamond? What story?
I think it's the candy-striped ruby from The Status Seeker.
(In the Dutch translation it's not the "most famous in the US", but "the most expensive in the world".)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
Olaf Solstrand
Quiz
Message 58 -
2004-02-06 at 18:37:20
P? Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:34:22 +0100, skrev <H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl>:
> I think it's the candy-striped ruby from The Status Seeker.
> (In the Dutch translation it's not the "most famous in the US", but "the
> most expensive in the world".)
Hm... But that's not a diamond, is it?
> I think it's the candy-striped ruby from The Status Seeker.
> (In the Dutch translation it's not the "most famous in the US", but "the
> most expensive in the world".)
Hm... But that's not a diamond, is it?
H.W.Fluks
'Easter eggs' in certain stories
Message 59 -
2004-02-06 at 18:48:35
Willem Alexander Hajenius:
> While re-reading my collection of Donald Duck Extra's, I stumbled upon
> some very nice easter eggs in certain stories! I was wondering whether
> anyone else has noted them?
I noticed most of them. I am pointing to some similar "eggs" on my website:
http://dd50.inducks.org/xoverv1a.html
> Issue 4/98, D96203, page 18, frame 2:
> For some reason, 'Kenodon' rings a bell! :-) Does Don Rosa's
> original English text
> also use that word, or was it changed by the Dutch
> translator/publisher?
I think it was Dutch. But I didn't check.
> Issue 10/98, D96116, page 1, frame 6:
> around the bits and pieces lying on the floor in Gyro's
> workshop is a miniature of
> a time travel machine I've seen before; don't know which story though.
This might be the standard time travel machine from the time travel machine series. Marco Rota drew a story in that series, which was published in Holland: D 9434 in Dubbelalbum 18 / Big Fun 2.
> Issue 13/98, D95081, page 10, frame 7: "...dus ik zeg tegen
> Willem van Hoorn, de ijsco-koning
This reminds me of a very funny text in a recent Gemstone comic, in a Van Horn story.
Donald is summing op all kinds of horns: car horns, bike horns, motor horns, van horns...
(a "van" being a kind of car).
> Issue 1/99, D96264, page 1, frame 1:
> Mickey and Minnie fly around in the airplane from 'Plane Crazy'
Another Marco Rota story.
Rota loved to add visual inside-jokes like this.
In the Rota story in the recent KATRIEN issue (#1-2004), I think I recognise Egmont editors Lars Bergstrom and Stefan Printz-Pahlsson as secundary characters...
> Perhaps it would be nice to add these easter eggs to the
> appropriate INDUCKS-file?
Sometimes we add information like this. But many times we simply forget, or decide that adding the info would spoil the fun for new readers...
Michiel J. Prior:
> > Issue 13/98, D95081
> "DOE MIJ MAAR VANILLE!" looks like a literal quote from
> Barks' "Voodoo Hoodoo". On the last page, in the last
> panel, Donald says: "Let them have it! I'll take
> vanilla!".
I guess "I'll take vanilla" is a standard expression in (American) English, though I don't understand its meaning or background.
BTW, in the Dutch translation of Voodoo Hoodoo, the final panel only says "Let's go home, I'll treat you on an ice-cream"...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
> While re-reading my collection of Donald Duck Extra's, I stumbled upon
> some very nice easter eggs in certain stories! I was wondering whether
> anyone else has noted them?
I noticed most of them. I am pointing to some similar "eggs" on my website:
http://dd50.inducks.org/xoverv1a.html
> Issue 4/98, D96203, page 18, frame 2:
> For some reason, 'Kenodon' rings a bell! :-) Does Don Rosa's
> original English text
> also use that word, or was it changed by the Dutch
> translator/publisher?
I think it was Dutch. But I didn't check.
> Issue 10/98, D96116, page 1, frame 6:
> around the bits and pieces lying on the floor in Gyro's
> workshop is a miniature of
> a time travel machine I've seen before; don't know which story though.
This might be the standard time travel machine from the time travel machine series. Marco Rota drew a story in that series, which was published in Holland: D 9434 in Dubbelalbum 18 / Big Fun 2.
> Issue 13/98, D95081, page 10, frame 7: "...dus ik zeg tegen
> Willem van Hoorn, de ijsco-koning
This reminds me of a very funny text in a recent Gemstone comic, in a Van Horn story.
Donald is summing op all kinds of horns: car horns, bike horns, motor horns, van horns...
(a "van" being a kind of car).
> Issue 1/99, D96264, page 1, frame 1:
> Mickey and Minnie fly around in the airplane from 'Plane Crazy'
Another Marco Rota story.
Rota loved to add visual inside-jokes like this.
In the Rota story in the recent KATRIEN issue (#1-2004), I think I recognise Egmont editors Lars Bergstrom and Stefan Printz-Pahlsson as secundary characters...
> Perhaps it would be nice to add these easter eggs to the
> appropriate INDUCKS-file?
Sometimes we add information like this. But many times we simply forget, or decide that adding the info would spoil the fun for new readers...
Michiel J. Prior:
> > Issue 13/98, D95081
> "DOE MIJ MAAR VANILLE!" looks like a literal quote from
> Barks' "Voodoo Hoodoo". On the last page, in the last
> panel, Donald says: "Let them have it! I'll take
> vanilla!".
I guess "I'll take vanilla" is a standard expression in (American) English, though I don't understand its meaning or background.
BTW, in the Dutch translation of Voodoo Hoodoo, the final panel only says "Let's go home, I'll treat you on an ice-cream"...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
H.W.Fluks
Disney Babies
Message 60 -
2004-02-06 at 19:03:42
Fernando wrote to Rich:
>> Brazilian Disney comics actually
>> created the concept of DISNEY BABIES and not the French.
> YES! They were created by Moacir Rodrigues, a incredible good brazilian
> drawer!
> Indeed Moacir sold the project DIRECTLY to Disney-Brazil (during that time
> represented by REDIBRA) and the model-sheets went to France, where they were
> developed by Marin and his writers who came out with this brilliant comic
> book work (I presume some french friends can add more info on this)!
Strange. In Inducks, we have information about French Disney Babies stories, and American (S-coded) Disney Babies stories (and no Brazilian ones). Both series start in 1986.
Is it possible that the model sheets went to the USA too? Did they independently developed their series, or did they cooperate?
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
>> Brazilian Disney comics actually
>> created the concept of DISNEY BABIES and not the French.
> YES! They were created by Moacir Rodrigues, a incredible good brazilian
> drawer!
> Indeed Moacir sold the project DIRECTLY to Disney-Brazil (during that time
> represented by REDIBRA) and the model-sheets went to France, where they were
> developed by Marin and his writers who came out with this brilliant comic
> book work (I presume some french friends can add more info on this)!
Strange. In Inducks, we have information about French Disney Babies stories, and American (S-coded) Disney Babies stories (and no Brazilian ones). Both series start in 1986.
Is it possible that the model sheets went to the USA too? Did they independently developed their series, or did they cooperate?
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"