Olaf Solstrand wrote:
> Yeah... I was just wondering how Paperinik could be "PK".
>
> Or is it shortened in the same way as Denmark becomes DK?
>
> I don't understand where the "K" comes from.
P = first letter, K = last letter.
Stefan
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Stefan Persson
Paperinik or Pikappa?
Message 166 -
2004-02-18 at 02:38:05
Eta Beta
Ellsworth
Message 167 -
2004-02-18 at 10:02:16
RICH
>What is the Origin of Ellsworth's surname name "Bhezer"? Or is it
actually a
>surname? Did it originate with Bill Walsh in the early comicstrips or
>with the Italians such as Romano Scarpa?
First time I see this name, I don't think it was ever used in Italy.
>Also is it correct that the name "Bruno" was once used by the Italians
>before it was replace by "Gancio"
Don't think so, again never seen it used.
>Ellsworth's son alternately known as "Gancetto" and "Bruto" by Italians?
That's not "alternately known", Bruto is the name, Gancetto is a
nickname, meaning "Little Gancio", i.e. son of Gancio, or Junior
if you want... :-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta
>What is the Origin of Ellsworth's surname name "Bhezer"? Or is it
actually a
>surname? Did it originate with Bill Walsh in the early comicstrips or
>with the Italians such as Romano Scarpa?
First time I see this name, I don't think it was ever used in Italy.
>Also is it correct that the name "Bruno" was once used by the Italians
>before it was replace by "Gancio"
Don't think so, again never seen it used.
>Ellsworth's son alternately known as "Gancetto" and "Bruto" by Italians?
That's not "alternately known", Bruto is the name, Gancetto is a
nickname, meaning "Little Gancio", i.e. son of Gancio, or Junior
if you want... :-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta
David Gerstein
RICH: Ellsworth "Bhezer"
Message 168 -
2004-02-18 at 10:04:37
Hey Rich,
> What is the Origin of Ellsworth's surname name "Bhezer"
It should really be spelled Bheezer ... derived from the English slang
word beezer, meaning a big nose. Ellsworth mentions Bheezer as his surname
in a Bill Walsh Sunday strip.
Bheezer became "Bhezer" thanks to a typo in a modern Italian reference
source.
David
> What is the Origin of Ellsworth's surname name "Bhezer"
It should really be spelled Bheezer ... derived from the English slang
word beezer, meaning a big nose. Ellsworth mentions Bheezer as his surname
in a Bill Walsh Sunday strip.
Bheezer became "Bhezer" thanks to a typo in a modern Italian reference
source.
David
Ola Martinsson
Can any of our Italian friends translate this Barks money stair up
Message 169 -
2004-02-18 at 10:21:47
This ending on Barks money stair up a mountain story is at Harry Fluks site
http://dd50.inducks.org/xned1954.html#x1954b_nederlands
As I don't understand neither Dutch nor Italian I don't understand this
but I assume that the Italian ending is supposed to be Barks original
ending for this story. Is that correct ?
Can anyone of our Italian friends on this list be kind enough and
translate what they're saying ?
Also I find it very amusing that first they have two panels by Prego ?
Is that his name, I can't remember, and then they have cut in two
different drawings of Taliaferro in the last panel. Looks very drole.
Ola in a semicloudy Stockholm with still some snow on the ground 0 degrees
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http://dd50.inducks.org/xned1954.html#x1954b_nederlands
As I don't understand neither Dutch nor Italian I don't understand this
but I assume that the Italian ending is supposed to be Barks original
ending for this story. Is that correct ?
Can anyone of our Italian friends on this list be kind enough and
translate what they're saying ?
Also I find it very amusing that first they have two panels by Prego ?
Is that his name, I can't remember, and then they have cut in two
different drawings of Taliaferro in the last panel. Looks very drole.
Ola in a semicloudy Stockholm with still some snow on the ground 0 degrees
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Kristian Pedersen
Astronomers find huge plot device in space
Message 170 -
2004-02-18 at 10:52:30
Speaking of plot lines, here's a news story that
literally begs to be used in a Scrooge treasure hunt
story:
http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/huge_diamond_space.html
Kristian :)
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story:
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Paolo Castagno
Can any of our Italian friends translate this Barks money stair
Message 171 -
2004-02-18 at 10:57:03
Ola Martinsson wrote:
> http://dd50.inducks.org/xned1954.html#x1954b_nederlands
> Can anyone of our Italian friends on this list be kind enough and
> translate what they're saying ?
Sure... more or less, I know it isn't perfect English, but I hope it is
clear enough:
panel 1: "So I built a money stair from bottom to the top"
panel 2: "Have you seen I was right? With my money I
can do everything I like"
"Gasp" ...well, no need to translate this, I suppose ;-)
panel 3: "And I can also do something more! I still have
an half dollar coin in my pocket..."
"And so...?"
panel 4: "Take it, I give it to you, so you'll be able
to buy something strong to drink in order to
improve your juvenile energies weakened by my victory"
> This communication is confidential and intended solely for the
> addressee(s).
This one, instead, is for everyone who wants to read it! ;-)
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://www.papersera.net
> http://dd50.inducks.org/xned1954.html#x1954b_nederlands
> Can anyone of our Italian friends on this list be kind enough and
> translate what they're saying ?
Sure... more or less, I know it isn't perfect English, but I hope it is
clear enough:
panel 1: "So I built a money stair from bottom to the top"
panel 2: "Have you seen I was right? With my money I
can do everything I like"
"Gasp" ...well, no need to translate this, I suppose ;-)
panel 3: "And I can also do something more! I still have
an half dollar coin in my pocket..."
"And so...?"
panel 4: "Take it, I give it to you, so you'll be able
to buy something strong to drink in order to
improve your juvenile energies weakened by my victory"
> This communication is confidential and intended solely for the
> addressee(s).
This one, instead, is for everyone who wants to read it! ;-)
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://www.papersera.net
H.W.Fluks
Can any of our Italian friends translate this Barks money stair
Message 172 -
2004-02-18 at 11:07:47
> http://dd50.inducks.org/xned1954.html#x1954b_nederlands
>
> As I don't understand neither Dutch nor Italian I don't
> understand this
There's also an English version of this page (and of all other pages on that website).
You get there by following the link "English text" on top of the page.
You then get to:
http://dd50.inducks.org/xeng1954.html#x1954_english
where I wrote:
"By the way, in the Italian panels we see exactly happening what Donald was telling in the dream version."
And this is what Paolo (who also gave me that Italian comic) has proven now. 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
>
> As I don't understand neither Dutch nor Italian I don't
> understand this
There's also an English version of this page (and of all other pages on that website).
You get there by following the link "English text" on top of the page.
You then get to:
http://dd50.inducks.org/xeng1954.html#x1954_english
where I wrote:
"By the way, in the Italian panels we see exactly happening what Donald was telling in the dream version."
And this is what Paolo (who also gave me that Italian comic) has proven now. 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
Cord Wiljes
Disney buys the Muppets
Message 173 -
2004-02-18 at 14:40:27
Luca Boschi
Gancio
Message 174 -
2004-02-18 at 14:55:34
Hello, David and all!
Eta and Dave just answered to the Ellsworth "Bhezer" issue.
But I can confirm. That name never was used in Italian comics and the minah
bird was baptized Gancio "il dritto" (which means something like "the cool")
from his first translation. The creator of name and nickname is the famous
story man Guido Martina.
> It should really be spelled Bheezer ... derived from the English slang
> word beezer, meaning a big nose. Ellsworth mentions Bheezer as his surname
> in a Bill Walsh Sunday strip.
> Bheezer became "Bhezer" thanks to a typo in a modern Italian reference
> source.
Er... in a modern FRENCH reference, that we italian took as it if were
correct, since we were not allowed to read the original sunday pages (yet),
mostly totally unpublished in our language...
Luca
Eta and Dave just answered to the Ellsworth "Bhezer" issue.
But I can confirm. That name never was used in Italian comics and the minah
bird was baptized Gancio "il dritto" (which means something like "the cool")
from his first translation. The creator of name and nickname is the famous
story man Guido Martina.
> It should really be spelled Bheezer ... derived from the English slang
> word beezer, meaning a big nose. Ellsworth mentions Bheezer as his surname
> in a Bill Walsh Sunday strip.
> Bheezer became "Bhezer" thanks to a typo in a modern Italian reference
> source.
Er... in a modern FRENCH reference, that we italian took as it if were
correct, since we were not allowed to read the original sunday pages (yet),
mostly totally unpublished in our language...
Luca
Timo Ronkainen
Egmont's coloring system?
Message 175 -
2004-02-18 at 15:00:34
How Egmont colors their Disney-comics? With Photoshop? How are the black key
films kept separate from color file and how the black line is kept clean and
sharp? Is black line art scanned in with very high resolution (600dpi?) in
bitmap mode and kept separate from rasterized color CMY-plates/file
(cyan-magenta-yellow)? And then these two separate files would be put
together with PageMaker or Freehand or Illustrator?
Or does Egmont have some coloring program of their own, made especially for
comics?
Timo
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films kept separate from color file and how the black line is kept clean and
sharp? Is black line art scanned in with very high resolution (600dpi?) in
bitmap mode and kept separate from rasterized color CMY-plates/file
(cyan-magenta-yellow)? And then these two separate files would be put
together with PageMaker or Freehand or Illustrator?
Or does Egmont have some coloring program of their own, made especially for
comics?
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
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http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
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http://www.kvaak.fi
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Paperinik
Message 176 -
2004-02-18 at 15:47:46
David :
> "Super Donald" isn't a legitimate English name for the character.
Donald
> is his *secret* identity, and he wouldn't reveal it by making it part of
his
> public superhero name.
> Other *real* English names for Donald's super identity are PK (which
has
> been used in English, in the computer game) and The Duck Avenger.
I never seen a story in English with dis Charecter but how ever I herd many
varius English name's of dis Charecter (Inclouding "PhantomDuck")
> It's Super Gilly.
Thank's.
Harry :
> Well, in Dutch his name *is* Superdonald. Besides, in Duckburg and
surroundings, no one would recognise secret identities, even if the people
have quite unique marks like a sailor hat or a name like "Supergoof".
This olwey's bother me theat now body never notice Theat SuperGoof and Goofy
are the one guy evev whail the Only difren't betwen Goofy and SuperGoof only
difrence is dres. SuperGoof is don't wering a mask and face are dissame.
Disame gouse for Papiernik. It's just wird theat people relly don't see
theat they are one.
And In fackt for some strange resson's wen Donald swich to his alter
ego he stop's beaing clamsy and Un-lucky.
Olivier :
> It's a odd convention that a mere mask or change of costume makes you
> unrecognizable / unidentifiable: Clark Kent can in no way be Superman, Don
> Diego certainly doesn't sound like Zorro, the Beagle Boys clearly don't
look
> like-- uh, forget that one-- Wonder Woman and Diana Prince have nothing in
> common (it's all in the glasses, like Clark), ...
Dis is a nother think theat bother me. In "Superman" theat as soon Clark
take of Glasses and
evry one thinks his Superman. Are people from Metropolis blaind or somthing?
Yours
Maciek
> "Super Donald" isn't a legitimate English name for the character.
Donald
> is his *secret* identity, and he wouldn't reveal it by making it part of
his
> public superhero name.
> Other *real* English names for Donald's super identity are PK (which
has
> been used in English, in the computer game) and The Duck Avenger.
I never seen a story in English with dis Charecter but how ever I herd many
varius English name's of dis Charecter (Inclouding "PhantomDuck")
> It's Super Gilly.
Thank's.
Harry :
> Well, in Dutch his name *is* Superdonald. Besides, in Duckburg and
surroundings, no one would recognise secret identities, even if the people
have quite unique marks like a sailor hat or a name like "Supergoof".
This olwey's bother me theat now body never notice Theat SuperGoof and Goofy
are the one guy evev whail the Only difren't betwen Goofy and SuperGoof only
difrence is dres. SuperGoof is don't wering a mask and face are dissame.
Disame gouse for Papiernik. It's just wird theat people relly don't see
theat they are one.
And In fackt for some strange resson's wen Donald swich to his alter
ego he stop's beaing clamsy and Un-lucky.
Olivier :
> It's a odd convention that a mere mask or change of costume makes you
> unrecognizable / unidentifiable: Clark Kent can in no way be Superman, Don
> Diego certainly doesn't sound like Zorro, the Beagle Boys clearly don't
look
> like-- uh, forget that one-- Wonder Woman and Diana Prince have nothing in
> common (it's all in the glasses, like Clark), ...
Dis is a nother think theat bother me. In "Superman" theat as soon Clark
take of Glasses and
evry one thinks his Superman. Are people from Metropolis blaind or somthing?
Yours
Maciek
KUR
Astronomers find huge plot device in space
Message 177 -
2004-02-18 at 16:08:11
Kristian :
> Speaking of plot lines, here's a news story that
> literally begs to be used in a Scrooge treasure hunt
> story:
>
> http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/huge_diamond_space.html
>
I herd obaut "Star of The World" but dis one is "The Satr of Univers"
:-)))))
Yours
Maciek
> Speaking of plot lines, here's a news story that
> literally begs to be used in a Scrooge treasure hunt
> story:
>
> http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/huge_diamond_space.html
>
I herd obaut "Star of The World" but dis one is "The Satr of Univers"
:-)))))
Yours
Maciek
KUR
Scrooge V.S. Bill Gates
Message 178 -
2004-02-18 at 17:01:35
How do you guy's thing : Whou have more money :
Scrooge Mcduck o Bill Gates? :-)
Now is is a fain plot for Story :-)
And I houpe It will not come to "The Balls of String" (agian)....
Yours
Maciek
Scrooge Mcduck o Bill Gates? :-)
Now is is a fain plot for Story :-)
And I houpe It will not come to "The Balls of String" (agian)....
Yours
Maciek
ZeldasTriforce
Exclamation Points In Comic Stories
Message 179 -
2004-02-18 at 17:35:18
Hi all!
One thing that's always puzzled me about Disney comics. Why is it that after
every sentence that isn't a question, there is an exclamation point? Other
comic books seem to use regular periods when appropriate , etc. It always seems
like Donald and the gang are shouting at each other or something: "Hi Uncle
Scrooge! I'm fine! I think I'll go buy an ice cream cone! They're so good!" It
just seems slightly weird is all. :)
Derek Smith
One thing that's always puzzled me about Disney comics. Why is it that after
every sentence that isn't a question, there is an exclamation point? Other
comic books seem to use regular periods when appropriate , etc. It always seems
like Donald and the gang are shouting at each other or something: "Hi Uncle
Scrooge! I'm fine! I think I'll go buy an ice cream cone! They're so good!" It
just seems slightly weird is all. :)
Derek Smith
Olaf Solstrand
Scrooge V.S. Bill Gates
Message 180 -
2004-02-18 at 18:23:01
> How do you guy's thing : Whou have more money : Scrooge Mcduck o Bill
> Gates? :-)
Aw, cummon, is that even a question? :-)
Every time someone asks that question - who's richest of Scrooge and
someone in RL - I think of the Barks story where Donald starts wondering if
Scrooge really IS the richest man on earth, as he's heard of one who's
really, really rich. They go to his ranch, get a guided tour, Donald is
really impressed with everything, being sure "there's no way unca' Scrooge
can beat this"... and in the end Scrooge asks this other man:
"Very interesting, but do you know who _I_ am?"
"No...?"
"I'm the man who lend you the money to build all this."
"SCROOGE!"
"I see you've had a very good harvest, so maybe that means you're ready to
pay back the first payment?"
> Gates? :-)
Aw, cummon, is that even a question? :-)
Every time someone asks that question - who's richest of Scrooge and
someone in RL - I think of the Barks story where Donald starts wondering if
Scrooge really IS the richest man on earth, as he's heard of one who's
really, really rich. They go to his ranch, get a guided tour, Donald is
really impressed with everything, being sure "there's no way unca' Scrooge
can beat this"... and in the end Scrooge asks this other man:
"Very interesting, but do you know who _I_ am?"
"No...?"
"I'm the man who lend you the money to build all this."
"SCROOGE!"
"I see you've had a very good harvest, so maybe that means you're ready to
pay back the first payment?"