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ZeldasTriforce
For the fourth wave, I'll defintely buy Mickey Mouse in Black and White
Volume 2. Not sure about the others.

Let me say something about Gemstone's release schedule this week. This seems
like the first time ever that the 64 page comics haven't been released the
week after the $3 comics. It's thrown my whole comic buying schedule off-kilter!
;)

Derek Smith
Abel Carlos Rodrigues
Hello!

http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2000-September/013483.html
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2002-May/018927.html

and a page from the NG magazine (2002-07)

http://www.afnews.net/deposito/ng/imagepages/image51.html

Abel

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Bjorn-are.Davidsen
Thank you, Abel.

I have now seen this in several versions, however it is a mystery to me why my own issue of July 2002 (the D-Day issue) definitely does not contain this page. Any explanation? Anyone wants to exchange their issue (containing Barks) with my own issue (not containing Barks?

Its got a lot of nice pictures;-)

Regards
Bj?rn Are
KUR
>That was in the Polish edition?!

Yep.

>That was something added by your local translator. Which is okay... but
>what
>important dialogue may have been omitted by that inserted bit? Are you sure
>the part about the abduction was not censored away? I hope your edition
>didn't have the Mounties going to arrest $crooge for telling bad jokes!

"The Heart's of Youkon" The Polish Edision (page 8, panel 5) :

Goldie : "Hey Handsome! Year ago Mcduck drive me out to his place, and made
me to work for him! By a month I was force to rinse Gold in a cold stream
and even listen to his Scottish jokes! I will sing it"

Steele : "What a brute!"

Sorry, I was thinking she propebly sed disame thing in the orginal story.

>Actually, Goldie only said two balloons to Steele (not "Stil"... the real
>names of actual people should not be translated)

I Polish tranletion his name is: "Samuel Benfield Stil". Maby the Translator
didn't notice this guy exist (wich is actualy hart to belive such pepole did
exist ist after the explosion he servaive, wich is my favorit gag in this
story ;-))

> Okay, that's that -- now to Greece!

Have a nice trip :-)

Yours
Maciek Kur
Dooma
I 'm wondering if the DCF's ftp is still working?

If so.. what is its new rules and login info???
Kriton Kyrimis
DON:

> (not "Stil"... the real
> names of actual people should not be translated)

I don't know if this was a typo in the posting to which you are replying, but
in some cases, it might be best if names are phonetically transcribed to
something that sounds similar in the target language. In Greek, e.g.,
literally transcribing "Steele" as sigma-tau-epsilon-epsilon-lambda-epsilon
would result in something pronounced steh-eh-leh, so "Stil" (using Greek
letters, of course) is the preferred transcription. The only issue is whether
the "i" should be an iota (current transcription practice) or an eta (older
transcription practice). I wonder if this is the same case with Polish, where
"Steele" might be equally unpronounceable.
--
Kriton.
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"There's something unnervingly recursive about digging up the remains of
dead archaeologists."
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Mateusz Lis
Don Rosa wrote:
> (not "Stil"... the real
> names of actual people should not be translated)

Well, this is not exactly a translation, it's just the name "Steele" written
phonetically to make it sound similar to English pronunciation. There is no
such word as "stil" in Polish at all.

Best wishes,
Mateusz Lis
Adel Khan
Dear Don Rosa,
For "A Letter from Home" your original plan was to use Hortense and Matilda. But Edgmont said that u could not use her. What were the reasons that you couldn?t use her in a comic? Did Edgmont say that she?s dead or let Donald and Della alone until they were grown up? Can u use Hortense in any story with Scrooge and Donald in Duckberg when Dons grown up. If you could would u do that story for Gemstone. U said Bruce Hamilton and Bryon Erickson invited u for a conference talking about HDL searching for Della. You said u abandoned the idea because there would be no happy ending. Would u do that story for Gemstone if u could or leave it alone? I know you?re really busy with these signings for the future would u make any trips in Calgary, Alberta.

Sincerely,
A fan of yours

Adel Khan
ZeldasTriforce
Hi all!

Here are the previews for Gemstone comics to be released in January 2005 from
Previews Volume XIV #11:

Donald Duck Adventures #10 --- Three long Disney adventure stories: Donald in
"Cosmic Confrontation," in which the Ducks' new TV antenna picks up alien
broadcasts that reveal Earth is about to be invaded; Mickey in "The M Files,"
which embroils our hero in an X-Files type adventure; and Uncle Scrooge in
"Precious Metal Madness," in which the world's richest duck discovers he's allergic
to gold and silver! Cover art by William Van Horn. SC, 128 pages, FC $7.95

Donald Duck and Friends #324 --- Carl Barks' legendary tne-page story, "The
Duck in the Iron Pants," which pits Donald against his ever-resourceful
nephews, leads this issue. A modern Mickey story by Don Markstein and Cesar Feroli,
"Foes in Fellowship," and a modern Donald story, "The Swell of Success,"
completes the issue. 32 pages, FC $2.95

Mickey Mouse and Friends #273 --- "Why Spy?," a two-part Mickey Mouse
adventure (complete in this issue) by the popular team of Stefan Petrucha and Noel
Van Horn is the featured story. William Van Horn's classic DuckTales story, "The
Billion Bean Stampede," with Launchpad McQuack, Uncle Scrooge, and the
nephews, completes the issue. 32 pages, FC $2.95

Uncle Scrooge #338 --- Carl Barks' early Uncle Scrooge tale, "The Horseradish
Story," is featured this issue, and is backed up by "The Secret of Success,"
a long story featuring Scrooge and Brigitta MacBridge, written and drawn by
veretan Italian creator and fan favorite Roman Scarpa (Yahooooo!!!! Finally!). A
Daniel Branca Valentine cover wraps the book. 64 pages, FC $6.95

Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #650 --- "Duck of the Deep," a brand new
story created especially for Gemstone by Patrick and Shelly Block, leads this
issue, which is wrapped by a new cover by Block. A new Mickey story, a vintage
DuckTales story and classic Western stories featuring Li'l Bad Wolf (Bucky Bug
to LBW: I concede the fight! Never again will I grace WDC.") and Chip 'n' Dale
round out the book. 64 pages, FC $6.95
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Okay, now that we've got all that junk out of the way, let's get talking
about the real comics. Lizzie McGuire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lizzie McGuire Cine-Manga Volume 10 --- When Miranda thinks that she's
overweight, her eating habits begin to dwindle.... down to nothing! It's up to
Lizzie and Gordo to show Miranda her inner beauty before her new "diet" makes her
crash! Meanwhile, as students compete for the best-dressed award, Lizzie
decides that her wardrobe needs an extreme makeover. Will she dress for success? Or
is she in for a style meltdown? 96 pages, FC $7.99

The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement --- Mia has graduated from college
and is ready to take on her duties as Queen of Genovia. There's just one
problem - the law says she has to be married before she can rule! Mia has 30 days to
learn how to act like a queen, find a husband and get married...can she do
it? Or will handsome Lord Nicholas spoil her royal plans? 96 pages, FC $7.99
-------------------------------

All in all, an interesting month. With Bucky Bug out of the way, Li'l Bad
Wolf is set for WDC domination. I hear that Chip 'n' Dale are next on his
hitlist. ;)

Questions: What prompted the new story from the Blocks? Gemstone still has a
ton of old stuff from Egmont it could print, so it's not for a lack of
material. The Blocks are great to me, so I'm looking forward to reading the story.
Also, the Mickey Mouse story is mentioned as being new (I assume in the same
sense as the Block's story is new). If so, who is involved in making that story?

Derek Smith
Dan Shane
ADEL WRITES TO DON ROSA:

> Would u do that story for Gemstone if u could or leave it alone? I know
> youre really busy with these signings for the future would u make any
> trips in Calgary, Alberta.

AND I RUDELY BUST IN:

Adel,

I just got home from a 2-week trip to Calgary! Quite cold and lots of snow,
but I certainly enjoyed my visit to Banff and Lake Louise for a few days.
Most of my time was spent at SAIT training on Nortel telephone switches.

I used some evenings to read Duck comics, of course.

Dan
Donald D. Markstein
I'm sorry to hear Derek Smith considers Disney comics "junk" he needs
to get "out of the way" so he can "get talking about the real comics".

Why do you suppose he posts on THIS list?

Quack, Don
Lars Jensen
Don Markstein wrote:

> I'm sorry to hear Derek Smith considers Disney comics "junk" he needs
> to get "out of the way" so he can "get talking about the real comics".
>
> Why do you suppose he posts on THIS list?

Derek didn't write that all Disney comics are junk -- only the ones
containing the classic/old characters. Remember: Lizzie McGuire
Cine-Manga is Disney comics, too.

Anyway, in light of his previous postings I suspect he was being ironic.
And I actually enjoy those remarks of his -- although he is of course
dead wrong about Li'l Bad Wolf being a terrible character.

Lars
Francesco Spreafico
ZeldasTriforce at aol.com wrote:

> Uncle Scrooge #338 --- Carl Barks' early Uncle Scrooge tale, "The
> Horseradish Story," is featured this issue, and is backed up by "The
> Secret of Success,"
> a long story featuring Scrooge and Brigitta MacBridge, written and
> drawn by
> veretan Italian creator and fan favorite Roman Scarpa (Yahooooo!!!!
> Finally!).

This sounds like "Zio Paperone e la formula della ricchezza", from Italian
"Topolino" issues 2058 and 2059. But in that case it's not written by
Scarpa, it's written by Carlo Panaro and only drawn by Scarpa. Can anybody
from inside Gemstone confirm/deny this?

Best,
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/
JOHN CHADWICK
Check out this description of Simpsons Comics #102, shipping in January:

by Boothby & Delaney Mr. Burns takes the Simpsons along on his annual summer vacation treasure hunt, but his South Seas adventure soon becomes a matter of life and death for everyone concerned! ?Uncle Burn$'? lust for gold leads them all to the island of Donrosa and the Gottfredson trench, where the Simpsons begin to realize that there is something Huey, Dewey, and Screwy about this whole undertaking, and that they might be ?Barks?ing up the wrong tree!

Visit The Cartoon Character Hall of Fame at http://www.toonhalloffame.com
Richard
There is a special edition of the French Disney weekly specially made for its
70th birthday. Some more information is available here:
http://fr.outducks.org/jdmlesite/70ans.htm

The weekly now sells a bit better after 3 years of loss. Here's an article
(from Bertrand d'Armagnac) published yesterday on the daily le Monde (sorry
it's in French). The writer doesn't seem to know almost all new Disney comic
stories are made outside the US, and most of it in Europe.

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A 70 ans, "Le Journal de Mickey" garde son rang dans la presse enfantine

En cette fin du mois d'octobre, Le Journal de Mickey f?te ses 70 ans. Un ?ge
canonique qui n'emp?che pas l'hebdomadaire de rester aux tout premiers rangs
dans le petit monde des publications pour les 8-12 ans.

Mi-2004, la diffusion pay?e du magazine atteignait 156 200 exemplaires, selon
Diffusion Contr?le. Des performances ?loign?es des ventes de 550 000
exemplaires qu'il affichait dans les ann?es 1950, mais qui marquent un l?ger
mieux, apr?s quatre ann?es de baisse de 2000 ? 2003. Ce d?but de redressement
est notamment d? au lancement d'une nouvelle maquette, en f?vrier 2003, et ?
une campagne publicitaire ? la t?l?vision entre f?vrier et juin 2004. De
plus, le magazine est souvent vendu avec un cadeau promotionnel.

Sur une plus longue p?riode, plusieurs ingr?dients favorisent la long?vit? du
Journal de Mickey. En premier lieu, la puissance des personnages de Disney :
au fil des ans, la souris et ses amis ont vu leur aura soutenue par les
productions - films et livres - du g?ant am?ricain. Un rouleau compresseur
qui continue ? apporter de nouveaux fid?les en culottes courtes. Ensuite, il
y a le savoir-faire d'Hachette. Le groupe d'?dition de presse, aujourd'hui
filiale de Lagard?re, ?tait d?s le d?but au c?t? de Paul Winkler, patron
d'Opera Mundi et cr?ateur du magazine en France, en 1934. Depuis 1991, Le
Journal de Mickey est ?dit? par une soci?t? commune ? Hachette et Disney.

Au cours des deux derni?res d?cennies, les deux soci?t?s ont pourtant affront?
la concurrence grandissante de la t?l?vision. Et d'autres magazines pour
enfants sont arriv?s sur le march?, ?dit?s par Bayard, Milan ou Fleurus. "Le
Journal de Mickey a subi ? la fin des ann?es 1980 un vrai lifting pour
r?pondre ? ces changements sur le march?", explique Nicolas Waintraub,
directeur commercial de Disney Hachette Presse (DHP).

OUVERT ? D'AUTRES SOURCES

Aujourd'hui, ? la diff?rence des magazines Mickey d'autres pays, l'?dition
fran?aise contient une partie r?dactionnelle importante. "Un tiers de BD, un
tiers de jeux et un tiers de textes", note M. Waintraub. Le contenu s'est
aussi ouvert ? d'autres sources que Disney. "Ses ?diteurs ont su faire
?voluer le titre, notamment en int?grant les ?v?nements touchant les vedettes
de la chanson et du petit ?cran", note Sandra Brisset, consultante chez Carat
Expert Presse. Et, dans ses pages, le magazine propose des bandes dessin?es
o? les personnages de Disney c?toient des cr?ations europ?ennes et
fran?aises, comme C?dric ou l'?l?ve Ducobu, vedettes des cours de r?cr?ation.

Pour r?pondre ? la segmentation du march? par ?ge et par sexe, DHP a par
ailleurs profit? de l'audience du Journal de Mickey, dont le public est
constitu? ? parts presque ?gales de filles et de gar?ons, pour lancer au fil
des ann?es des publications s?urs, comme Winnie, pour les 3-7 ans, ou Witch
Mag, pour les filles de 8 ? 13 ans.
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