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Le dimanche 10 Octobre 2004 13:05, Donald D. Markstein a ?crit?:
> I hope Inducks will do the responsible thing and add that strips (at
> least three but it may very well be more) definitely exist after that
> date, now that the fact is known beyond doubt, so nobody else assumes
> it's correct.

I'm not speaking for the Inducks team in this email, and this will be the
decision of the strip index maintainer (or the decision's team), but even
though we want to make things as clear as possible, there are things we may
not want to do. The first problem is that adding general information like
that is not easy to do in a database structure. The second problem regards
the reason of the request. The database goal is not to prevent others making
mistakes. If people can't check Inducks accurately because they don't want to
spend more than 10 seconds looking at our indexes, they will likely interpret
it wrongly, but that's their fault, not ours. You have to take a complete
look at our indexing rules and the entire inducks.org site if you want not
make mistake (I'm not referring to the original person on this mailing list
who asked if the above April 1993 strip was the last one, as he didn't
interpret it wrongly, just asked a question).

> Inducks lists Donald Sunday strips up to 1998, but none of the strips
> after 1993 is listed as published anywhere, so it is possible that the
> strips do not exist and that they should be removed from Inducks listings.
>
> Inducks reference: http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/se/KAJ+1995
>
> Stefan
>

I have some pages from Sunday comic sections from American newspapers published in the 1990'es.
The last one I have is dated 6-21 1998, and it has a Mickey Mouse.
Another one, dated 12-31 1995 has both a Mickey Mouse and a Donald Duck.
This does not necessarily mean that new strips were produced (they may be reprints), but I haven't checked these in detail. Thomas Jensen knows more about them.

The last Mickey Mouse daily strip I have (in electronic form) is dated 3-11 2000, and it is in the middle of a continuity as it has Mickey hanging suspended over a large container filled with marshmallow sauerkraut casserole while Emil Eagle is getting ready to activate his earthquake machine.

So, at least King Features continued distributing MM and DD strips beyond 1993, but as I said, it has to be checked if they are reprints. They should not be removed from Inducks listings, but these need to be filled in with the details.

Martin.

Hi all!

It looks like fellow DCMLer Didier Ghez is publishing a book next month
filled with interviews of Rudy Ising, David Hand, Bill Tytla, Marc Davis, Jack
Hannah, Milt Kahl, etc., etc. talking about a ton of stuff that went on at Disney
Animation during the 1920's to 1960's.

Even more important (as far as the DCML is concerned) is that a future book
in his Talking Disney series will be about Disney comics containing interviews
with Floyd Gottfredson, Paul Murry, Al Hubbard and others. I've never read any
Murry-Hubbard interviews, so this'll be great to me. Didier asked about a
Gottfredson interview by Saba a few months ago on the list. I had downloaded it
previously and was able to send it to him, didn't know it was possibly for a
book, so it's nice to indirectly contribute to it. :)

At any rate, they seem like books to look forward to and I'll defintely be
getting the Disney comics book whenever it comes out and probably a few of the
others as well. Below is some more info on the upcoming Disney Animation book
to be released in November:

Ghez, Didier (editor): Walt's People - Volume 1 published by Xlibris; 2004.
The Talking Disney series is a collection of the best interviews ever
conducted with Disney artists.

Contributors to the series include noted Disney experts Robin Allan, Paul F.
Anderson, Michael Barrier, J.B. Kaufman, Jim Korkis, Mike Lyons and John
Province.

Talking Disney - Volume 1 includes in-depth interviews with artists Rudy
Ising, Dave Hand, Bill Tytla, Ken Anderson, Jack Hannah, John Hench, Marc Davis,
Milt Kahl, Harper Goff and Joyce Carlson and discusses among many other
subjects the Disney Studio before Mickey Mouse, the challenges in directing Snow
White, the making of Destino with Dali, the process that led to the production of
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the frustrations and joys of Marc Davis and Milt
Kahl and the creation of It's a Small World. It contains hundreds of new
stories about the Studio and its artists and should delight even the most serious
historians and enthusiasts.
-----------------------------------------

http://www.pizarro.net/didier/_private/tocome.htm

Derek Smith

Happy Monday!

First, a clarification: Diamond's Scoop e-mail newsletter recently
mentioned that Wal-Mart stores will now be stocking Disney comics. This
is, at present, not the case. However, Scoop's mention they are being
offered on Wal-Mart's web site is accurate.

And now:

> Dear Gary Leach:
> Towards the end of Gladstone's second run, I remember that some
> fans
> suggested the company put together a special album collection of Barks'
> original stories and their Rosa sequels. Are there any plans down the
> road
> for Gemstone to take on this project in the form of graphic novels or
> hardcover books? I would gladly buy such a series like this one.
> Additionally, has there been any movement in Rosa's Life and Times of
> Scrooge project? Thanks!
> Sincerely,
> Anthony

It's an attractive idea, and we have discussed it recently, but at
present Gemstone's Rosa plans are for a straightforward reprinting of
his Barks sequels, his non-sequels, and his LoS series, in trade
paperbacks, possibly beginning in 2005, though there is no firm
publication schedule as yet.

Gary

> From: "Mickey" <mickey at iol.it>
> Subject: Lo$ Italian Reprint
> Mister Rosa,
> have you seen the latest reprint of your Life and Times here in Italy,

No, I have not seen it, I know nothing about it, I was not contacted by
the publishers, whoever they are, about the use of my name or my
signature or my texts (if they are mine... sometimes they print texts
that they attribute to me with my signature but which I did not
contribute or authorize), or about whether they have the correct material
or not. The last Italian book of my Lo$ used lots of unauthorized
material, wrong versions of the art, and included, with no
explanation, "The Dutchman's Secret" which has nothing to do with the Lo$
other than making a one-panel reference to something that happened in
$crooge's past life, as do dozens or hundreds of other stories. The only
thing I know about this book is that our friend Luca Boschi told/warned
me it was on the way. Well, on the bright side, si, it will introduce
many new readers to Zio Paperone stories (if anyone in Italy doesn't know
about them already, which I doubt), and the Italian versions of my comics
are always well colored and lettered since the Italians know more about
comics and how to produce them properly than any people on this planet.
Now I just hope I can get my hands on a copy or two so I can at least see
what it looks like... hopefully from Luca who always does me these great
favors.
(This comes to you from an airport lounge computer as I travel home from
the Raptus Comics Festival in Bergen, Norway.)

Hi All, For those of you who watch " The Wonderful World Of Disney" recently they were showing th 1976 short " Scrooge Mc Duck And Money" its very intresting and educational.  If this was the first apperance of Uncle Scrooge"s debut on televison and film. Did they look at his apperance then why does he have a frame. The voices for Hewy, Dewy, and Louie are entierly different.   The voice for Scrooge Mc Duck is different but its a bit better compared to Allan Young.
 
 Two Questions for Mr. Rosa (I Know your a bit busy sorry for bothering you also with the other swamps of messages.
 
 Have you seen Scrooge McDucks apperance on Television and what are your views on it?
 
Would you make a trip in Calgary , Alberta next year it would be really nice meeting you in person.
 
Sincerely,
 
Adel

> From: "Mickey" <mickey at iol.it>
> Subject: Re: DCML Digest Issue 10
> Nothing buy your comics.

Hm? Did you mean "nothing BUT your comics"? They did not use my name on the
book? Maybe not, as I say I haven't seen it.

> However, they have the rights for your stories, so they can print them (or
> make them print, like in this case) how, where and when they want, aren't
> they?

Oh, of course, any Disney licensed publisher can use my stories without
telling me, much less paying me. (Whether or not they have a right to
publish an entire book or album series of *only* stories that I've written
or drawn, and using my name, without my knowledge or permission is another
question.) But some non-Egmont publishers seem to think they have blanket
protection to find ANY writing that I (or YOU) have done concerning Disney
comics, copy them out of other books, magazines or websites, and publish
them without permission or payment to the authors... or use the name of
authors and artists in high-profile promotions without seeking permission.
But there's nothing we poor writers/artists can do about that sort of thing,
even if we happen to see it.

> > The last Italian book of my Lo$ used lots of unauthorized
> material, wrong
> versions of the art, and included, with no
> > explanation, "The Dutchman's Secret"
>
> Well, that book wasn't officially a collection of the Lo$...

It wasn't? Why not? It reprinted the first 12 chapters plus all the
additional "Lo$" chapters, but just inexplicably added "The Dutchman's
Secret". I figure the editors just saw that the "Dutchman" story began with
the same framing sequence of $crooge doing something with his old chest of
memorabilia and tossed the story into the book (i.e.: ordering it to be
translated and inserted) without bothering to actually read it themselves.
The book, PAPERDINASTIA, was clearly supposed to be a "Lo$" compilation. Are
we talking about the same book?
But use that book as an example: It reprinted my stories, but also took
texts I had written for other purposes, took photos from websites, used my
autograph, took many texts written by other comics scholars, and printed it
into a new compilation without seeking permission from any of the writers.
But beyond that, since it was otherwise certainly a nice looking book, other
publishers around the world, such as in Portugal, Brazil, Greece, perhaps
Germany and France, maybe others I don't even know about, used the exact
same material, same texts, coloring, etc., and published "Lo$" compilations
in their own countries, I assume paying the Italian publisher for the use of
the material... though the creators of all that material were still not
consulted. Is that fair? I don't claim to know, I'm just telling you what
happens.

> You can be quiet, Boschi himself cared about (if I'm not mistaking) and
> wrote an introduction for the book.

Well, I'll need to check on that. They might have, as I say, just lifted his
text from some other source and there'd be nothing Luca could do to stop
them. Or maybe he did write it directly for them... I hope so, that would
show some level of editorial respect even if I didn't hear from them. I have
an overnight message from Luca in my Inbox right now -- maybe I'll find out.