Keskustelujen arkisto

The artists and writers of Disney films and comics are in the unfortunate position that they are left without rights to the material they create. This may be old hat to many, but actually Walt Disney was in the same situation himself when the rights to the Oswald the Rabbit character was taken away from him and given to someone else. Ub Iwerks was a junior partner to Walt Disney and co-creator of Mickey Mouse but he had to give up all rights to Mickey when he agreed to leave; Ub went on to create the not very successful Flip the Frog. Walter Kelly, was a brilliant artist with Disney but left to create an entirely different comic Pogo. For Don Rosa, David Gerstein, and of course many others, it is an inherent labor of love to work with the Disney characters. Floyd Gottfredson and Carl Barks had to work anonymously for nearly all of their creative period. This does not "put food on the table" but at least the creators of today are aware of the recognition they have for giving us the enjoyment that we so appreciate.
Marvin Winitz

In Rosa's Kalevala story, Donald Duck's question in
the splash panel, page 27, panel 1, was not answered.
A Helsinki resident called Iku-Turso the second-biggest
frog he'd ever seen. Donald asked him, "only second
biggest?" But Donald had urgent matters to attend to,
and couldn't wait for the Helsinki resident to explain
what bigger 'frog' he'd seen before.
So does anyone know what Don Rosa (as expressed
by this Helsinki resident) was thinking of? It's curious
little in-jokes like this that make Don Rosa stories
captivating reading several times over.

Thomas Pryds Lauritsen <pryds at duckburg.dk> skreiv Wed, 13 Oct 2004
23:06:34 +0200

> This was asked on DCML before, so a quick search on Google brought me
> the answer:
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2001-February/014499.html

... so the answer was _not_, as the Norwegian footnote editors assumed
(yes, I believe that story actually had an own footnote editor), that this
man probably had crossed over into some old "Captain Kentucky" series and
met J. Fred Frog there. :-)

O.

> From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: DCML Digest Issue 13
> But that seems to be Disney policy. If one have had
> payment once, there is no way to get any other compensation concerning
> reprints and such.

In reference to texts, photos, non-Disney art, etc. (which is what we're
referring to here?), often it us material that I have not even paid once.
It's just taken wherever it might be found and published without consent.
Again, a good example is the Italian PAPERDINASTERIA book that lifted a
great deal of material from hither and yon, and then other "Lo$" editions
around the world used whatever *that* book used.

> It's another issue if they take some text from, let's
> say, someone's homepage or non-Disney magazine article, even though it is
> about D-comics. Have this happened then sometimes?

Oh, YES! Text *and* non-Disney art. Frequently.

> From: Larry Giver <lgiver at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Second-biggest frog
> In Rosa's Kalevala story, Donald Duck's question in
> the splash panel, page 27, panel 1, was not answered.
> A Helsinki resident called Iku-Turso the second-biggest
> frog he'd ever seen. Donald asked him, "only second
> biggest?" But Donald had urgent matters to attend to,
> and couldn't wait for the Helsinki resident to explain
> what bigger 'frog' he'd seen before.
> So does anyone know what Don Rosa (as expressed
> by this Helsinki resident) was thinking of?

I might.
Didn't you ever watch "Get Smart!"?
"Chief, that's the second-biggest arrow I've ever seen."
"Second-biggest, Max? What was --* "
"C'mon, 99, let's hurry to see about..." etc.

Is the presidential touch on the English language, blame the debate...
Is a most safefer wourldd.

FABIO
gliggiglin

bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
http://virusmental.blogspot.com

> > From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
> > Subject: RE: DCML Digest Issue 14
> > In reference to texts, photos, non-Disney art, etc. (which is what we're
> > referring to here?), often it us material that I have not even paid
once.
>
> What a mess that last part is -- I meant to write "often it IS material
FOR
> WHICH I have not even BEEN paid once".
>
> > Again, a good example is the Italian PAPERDINASTERIA book
>
> That should be PAPERDINASTIA! An extra syllabibble snuck in!
>
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The information that Derek sent a few days ago about the book series are correct. However I would like to clarify a few things.

1. The release date is probably now going to be around Nov. 15th instead of Nov. 1st.

2. The books are not organised by themes, but will mix interviews from animators, comic book artists, imagineers,...

3. We did indeed find some lost tapes of Murry interviews by Donald Ault never published before and that I hope will appear in Volume 3. In Volume 2 I will re-publish the very long Gottfredson interview by Arn Saba that originally appeared in The Comics Collector 120. (Thanks for the help Derek).

4. Only bad news : for copyright and costs reasons the books will not contain any illustrations.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Didier

Mickeyflash,

Sgrizzo got his English name in 1998. Egmont was developing an internal character database for use by affiliate publishers. For a number of reasons, we needed to create English names for some characters who'd never had English names before, such as Sgrizzo.

We didn't want to rename this Italian character without Italian involvement, of course, so I immediately got in touch with Disney historian Luca Boschi, who was then writing most Sgrizzo stories for the Italian comics, and we discussed what to call him in English.
I thought of the first name "Kildare", based on the crazy duck's over-the-top, daring enthusiasm. Luca suggested the last name Coot to indicate a close relationship to Grandma's end of the family.

So that's how Sgrizzo became Kildare Coot.

David

Does anyone know when Don's "The Magnificent Seven
(Minus Four) Caballeros!" will appear on the weekly dd
comic in Norway?

Greetings from the coldest of Norway, Nils D.