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Topic: Boom! Gets Disney License
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Charlie Brown
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 76 -
2009-06-25 at 06:25:35
I'm not talking about the 10th reprint of a Barks story in the Uncle Scrooge book. I'm talking about in English unpublished "classic" comics, e.g. from Vicar or Daniel Branca.
Robb_K
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 77 -
2009-06-25 at 08:08:51
Or Scarpa, or Gulbransson, or Jippes or Milton or Verhagen or Heijmans or maybe some newer-upcoming European talented artists. Maybe some great old Western Publishing 4-Color series stories that weren't printed by either Gladstone or Gemstone, or some Gottfredson not printed by either, or maybe some Gold Key stories that were originally printed with terrible colour, and have never been reprinted, or maybe some non-Barks Cheerios or Wheeties Giveaways that haven't been reprinted, or some King Features US comic strip material by Moores, Murray, Gonzales, etc. that's never been reprinted, or some good quality S-stories that haven't been printed in English.....or....
Morequack
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 78 -
2009-06-25 at 20:10:40
"Not sure if I agree with them relying on pamphlet comics in the age of the graphic novel..."
"They're definitely not Gladstone/Gemstone. Seems a deliberate choice... for better or worse." I'd say, worse.
"They're definitely not Gladstone/Gemstone. Seems a deliberate choice... for better or worse." I'd say, worse.
Rodney
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 79 -
2009-06-25 at 20:50:05
At the book stores near where I live, there is nearly always a spinner rack full of "pamphlet comics". These books are sold on the magazine stands of the supermarkets too. Considering the target audience of the books (based on the solicitations), I'd say it's a wise move.
I do hope they're able to put together some classy higher end products for us older folks though.
I do hope they're able to put together some classy higher end products for us older folks though.
Robb_K
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 80 -
2009-06-25 at 20:51:00
They need to tap the MASS market in mass market outlets. That means their books must be sturdy, or they won't be accepted. After one kid flips through one of the flimsy 24-page pamphlet of stapled papers, and doesn't buy it, it might as well be thrown away. Book stores, discount stores, The Disney Store, toy stores, libraries (not sales, but a marketing tool) will NOT accept flimsy books-especially those made for a limited audience.
Disney Comics needs lines that will appeal to the CURRENT children's mass market (not that of 1950), so that they can get the mass market distribution channels. THEN, and only then, can they have a chance for their "classic-style" comics lines to even be considered by distributors and the commercial outlets they service. Maybe the big outlets will just try EVERY line Boom! Disney Comics offers, if they want to get their "WINNERS" (which would be the young children-oriented ones-and those WE would dislike most).
Disney Comics needs lines that will appeal to the CURRENT children's mass market (not that of 1950), so that they can get the mass market distribution channels. THEN, and only then, can they have a chance for their "classic-style" comics lines to even be considered by distributors and the commercial outlets they service. Maybe the big outlets will just try EVERY line Boom! Disney Comics offers, if they want to get their "WINNERS" (which would be the young children-oriented ones-and those WE would dislike most).
Louis Lane
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 81 -
2009-06-26 at 01:20:24
>They need to tap the MASS market in mass market outlets.
This is what Gemstone created their "take along" digest books for. Gemstone was hoping to penetrate the bookstore and Wal-mart markets. Unfortunately, I never saw the Gemstone digests in any bookstore or Wal-mart.
>Disney Comics needs lines that will appeal to the CURRENT children's mass market
Maybe Boom needs four formats - comics for the newsstand, digests for the
teenage market, graphic novels for the "adult" market, and "picture books" for the children's book market.
LL
This is what Gemstone created their "take along" digest books for. Gemstone was hoping to penetrate the bookstore and Wal-mart markets. Unfortunately, I never saw the Gemstone digests in any bookstore or Wal-mart.
>Disney Comics needs lines that will appeal to the CURRENT children's mass market
Maybe Boom needs four formats - comics for the newsstand, digests for the
teenage market, graphic novels for the "adult" market, and "picture books" for the children's book market.
LL
Kneon
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 82 -
2009-06-26 at 13:12:05
Yeah, Gemstone's 'Mickey Mouse Adventures' and 'Donald Duck Adventures' had the best shot at penetrating the mass market (i.e. Barnes and Noble) but didn't have the push they needed. Ironically, they weren't *that* different in approach from the BOOM! stuff we're seeing now -- they were mostly 3-tier Italian stories with fancier covers. They were also digest/manga-sized... they should have sold themselves.
I really don't know what went wrong. Being owned by Diamond Distribution, maybe Gemstone were having a hard time wrapping their heads around distribution *outside* of the comic book specialty shops -- where Disney comics *need* to go to regain popularity. The reason I'm skeptical of Boom's pamphlet comics isn't the *content* (I've been looking forward to reading Wizards of Mickey for a while now) but the fact that in 2009, pamphlets seldom get sold outside comic book shops. And kids just don't go to comic book shops.
But graphic novels can be sold *anywhere.*
So we'll see. Maybe they'll release collected editions later on...?
I really don't know what went wrong. Being owned by Diamond Distribution, maybe Gemstone were having a hard time wrapping their heads around distribution *outside* of the comic book specialty shops -- where Disney comics *need* to go to regain popularity. The reason I'm skeptical of Boom's pamphlet comics isn't the *content* (I've been looking forward to reading Wizards of Mickey for a while now) but the fact that in 2009, pamphlets seldom get sold outside comic book shops. And kids just don't go to comic book shops.
But graphic novels can be sold *anywhere.*
So we'll see. Maybe they'll release collected editions later on...?
Arthur
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 83 -
2009-06-26 at 13:51:07
Quote from user: KneonSo we'll see. Maybe they'll release collected editions later on...?
That's what they're doing with The Incredibles, Cars and The Muppets. The first issues of these are going to put together in trade paperbacks for $9.99 each. So it's likely that they'll for instance put Wizards of Mickey and Ultraheroes together as a TPB after it has been published in single issues.
See:
http://www.boom-studios.net/cars-the-rookie-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-incredibles-family-matters-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-muppet-show-comic-book-meet-the-muppets-tpb.html
That's what they're doing with The Incredibles, Cars and The Muppets. The first issues of these are going to put together in trade paperbacks for $9.99 each. So it's likely that they'll for instance put Wizards of Mickey and Ultraheroes together as a TPB after it has been published in single issues.
See:
http://www.boom-studios.net/cars-the-rookie-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-incredibles-family-matters-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-muppet-show-comic-book-meet-the-muppets-tpb.html
Morequack
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 84 -
2009-06-26 at 14:20:37
Quote from user: arthurQuote from user: KneonSo we'll see. Maybe they'll release collected editions later on...?
That's what they're doing with The Incredibles, Cars and The Muppets. The first issues of these are going to put together in trade paperbacks for $9.99 each. So it's likely that they'll for instance put Wizards of Mickey and Ultraheroes together as a TPB after it has been published in single issues.
See:
http://www.boom-studios.net/cars-the-rookie-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-incredibles-family-matters-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-muppet-show-comic-book-meet-the-muppets-tpb.html
Due to their obvious popularity these will sell many more copies than a Scrooge collection would.
That's what they're doing with The Incredibles, Cars and The Muppets. The first issues of these are going to put together in trade paperbacks for $9.99 each. So it's likely that they'll for instance put Wizards of Mickey and Ultraheroes together as a TPB after it has been published in single issues.
See:
http://www.boom-studios.net/cars-the-rookie-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-incredibles-family-matters-tpb.html
http://www.boom-studios.net/the-muppet-show-comic-book-meet-the-muppets-tpb.html
Due to their obvious popularity these will sell many more copies than a Scrooge collection would.
WB
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 85 -
2009-06-26 at 15:55:46
Depends on what's in a Scrooge collection.
Life and Times is WOEFULLY out of print, extremely hard to find at a reasonable price, and was still in high demand even before Gemstone's eventual collapse. If Boom is smart (which they seem to definitely be) I can't see them not eventually capitalizing on that.
Life and Times is WOEFULLY out of print, extremely hard to find at a reasonable price, and was still in high demand even before Gemstone's eventual collapse. If Boom is smart (which they seem to definitely be) I can't see them not eventually capitalizing on that.
Morequack
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 86 -
2009-06-26 at 17:54:39
I'm talking about Uncle Scrooge #384 and onward: The quality, prestige-format traditional comic book title that was so well done, and with much respect, by Gladstone and Gemstone. Personally, this is basically all that I am interested in; I'm not a Wizards of M fan, or an Incredibles fan, or a Muppets fan, or a Cars fan?or even a MM fan?or a fan of any of that other stuff.
Rodney
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 87 -
2009-06-26 at 19:56:12
Really? I stopped buying the book because a third of it was stories that I already owned and 80% of the rest of the stories were just awful. I agree regarding the level of respect with the Gladstone issues, and the early Gemstone issues, but there was an obvious decline in quality.
But really, I don't understand how you can say that the prestige format worked, when it's so obvious that it didn't. Two imprints went under publishing books in that manner. Why would a third attempt it?
But really, I don't understand how you can say that the prestige format worked, when it's so obvious that it didn't. Two imprints went under publishing books in that manner. Why would a third attempt it?
Roger North
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 88 -
2009-06-26 at 20:41:42
Rodney is right. Why stick with something that doesn't work when you can change to something that does. I can only hope that Boom has more success in publishing Disney Comics than their precedessors. This bad streak has been going on since the Disney Comics Implosion of 1991 and hopefully it will stop.
Morequack
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 89 -
2009-06-26 at 21:15:35
Quote from user: rodneyReally?
But really, I don't understand how you can say that the prestige format worked, when it's so obvious that it didn't. Two imprints went under publishing books in that manner. Why would a third attempt it?
I never said that "it worked," at least not financially. In fact, I've been saying just the opposite, if you read some of my previous posts: 'From a business standpoint I honestly don't know why [anyone] would chance to publish Disney comics to an American audience that is virtually anemic compared to that in Europe. Why would they take over the reigns from American publishers, all of whom ultimately failed to sustain themselves with Disney comics? And particularly in this depressed global economy? All common sense points to such an enterprise as high risk for a moderately low return at best. I don't see it happening in the USA.'
But really, I don't understand how you can say that the prestige format worked, when it's so obvious that it didn't. Two imprints went under publishing books in that manner. Why would a third attempt it?
I never said that "it worked," at least not financially. In fact, I've been saying just the opposite, if you read some of my previous posts: 'From a business standpoint I honestly don't know why [anyone] would chance to publish Disney comics to an American audience that is virtually anemic compared to that in Europe. Why would they take over the reigns from American publishers, all of whom ultimately failed to sustain themselves with Disney comics? And particularly in this depressed global economy? All common sense points to such an enterprise as high risk for a moderately low return at best. I don't see it happening in the USA.'
JeffT
Boom! Gets Disney License
Message 90 -
2009-06-27 at 06:07:39
I can only say that my son (11) LOVES every Barks Scrooge story he's ever seen, and would be thrilled if I could give him a quarterly tpb that contains nothing but Barks stories. He has no idea about creators, it's just that those stories draw him in like no others. Rosa and a handful of others perhaps excepted. For us longtime readers, yes, a monthly reprint is tired, but a regular tpb series would be welcomed.