Quote from user: Michiel PFor the purposes of this quiz, Daisy qualifies as a family member, because a) she's included in this version of Rosa's Family Tree and b) her last name is Duck. She does not qualify as an answer, because she's already included.
But Daisy and the girls are only on that drawing as an "extra". Note that the branches they are on come from another tree than the one Donald & co. are on. I thought Daisy qualified because she has been associated with Donald for decades. And what does her last name have to do with anything?! Lots of people in the Duck universe have the last name Duck without (apparently) being related to Donald. Example: Calamity Duck from the Buck Duck universe.
This is getting too confusing for me. I'm out.
(And I realize Daisy doesn't qualify as an answer, since I already mentioned her.)
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Topic: Barks Quiz
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Lars Jensen
Barks Quiz
Message 31 -
2012-01-12 at 15:54:16
GeoX
Barks Quiz
Message 32 -
2012-01-12 at 17:13:53
Isn't the more salient point that Brigitta is not a Barks character? If we were just talking about relatives that any ol' writer has used, this would quickly get out of hand.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Barks Quiz
Message 33 -
2012-01-12 at 17:52:07
Donald borrows a horse from his grandpa in 1943's "The Hard Loser".
http://coa.inducks.org/s.php?c=W+OS+++29-02
Note that the story was published around the same time that Grandma Duck first appeared in the newspaper comics.
EDIT: And, cause why not, three answers in one: the nephews also have ancestors appear in King Scrooge the First.
http://coa.inducks.org/s.php?c=W+OS+++29-02
Note that the story was published around the same time that Grandma Duck first appeared in the newspaper comics.
EDIT: And, cause why not, three answers in one: the nephews also have ancestors appear in King Scrooge the First.
Lars Jensen
Barks Quiz
Message 34 -
2012-01-12 at 18:14:21
The characters have to have been used, named or mentioned by Carl Barks. Barks did this with Brigitta MacBridge in http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=XFC+ALP++13IC .
Robb_K
Barks Quiz
Message 35 -
2012-01-12 at 19:49:25
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Michiel PBecause Don Rosa decided to disregard anything Barks created after his retirement. [...] Uncle Eider from "Gold of the '49ers", whom I guess must be either a Coot or a Gadwall, if we want to keep things simple.
Not understood. You state that Unca Eider was ignored on purpose when Don Rosa created his Duck family tree... and then you state what Unca Eider's last name must be, since it should be compliant with that family tree. How does that make sense? Either Unca Eider is part of Rosa's tree and therefore should follow the rules of that tree... or he isn't part of the tree and therefore doesn't need to follow those rules. Since Don Rosa, according to you, deliberately chose not to use Unca Eider in the tree, it means the tree's rules do not apply to Unca Eider. His last name could be anything.
Rosa SHOULD have used him, as his last (family) name IS known. His last name was "Duck". So, he was on Donald's father's side of the family. Barks used an "Uncle Eider Duck" in a 1940s 10-pager in WDC #47. So, he was NOT used by Barks only "after his retirement". He's in MY Duck family tree.
Not understood. You state that Unca Eider was ignored on purpose when Don Rosa created his Duck family tree... and then you state what Unca Eider's last name must be, since it should be compliant with that family tree. How does that make sense? Either Unca Eider is part of Rosa's tree and therefore should follow the rules of that tree... or he isn't part of the tree and therefore doesn't need to follow those rules. Since Don Rosa, according to you, deliberately chose not to use Unca Eider in the tree, it means the tree's rules do not apply to Unca Eider. His last name could be anything.
Rosa SHOULD have used him, as his last (family) name IS known. His last name was "Duck". So, he was on Donald's father's side of the family. Barks used an "Uncle Eider Duck" in a 1940s 10-pager in WDC #47. So, he was NOT used by Barks only "after his retirement". He's in MY Duck family tree.
Michiel P
Barks Quiz
Message 36 -
2012-01-12 at 20:45:28
Quote from user: Lars JensenLots of people in the Duck universe have the last name Duck without (apparently) being related to Donald.
Agreed. But for the purposes of this quiz, let's assume all Ducks are indeed related, shall we? It's not like Carl Barks used a great many of them and it allows me to include Daisy's family members, of which there are 4 that were used, named or mentioned by Barks.
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderDonald borrows a horse from his grandpa in 1943's "The Hard Loser".
I assume this grandpa is Grandma Duck's husband. In any case, Donald must have two grandfathers, both of which are already included in Rosa's Family Tree.
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderThe nephews also have ancestors appear in King Scrooge the First.
This answer is right! :) Three unnamed Princes of Sagbad can be added to the list of relatives.
Agreed. But for the purposes of this quiz, let's assume all Ducks are indeed related, shall we? It's not like Carl Barks used a great many of them and it allows me to include Daisy's family members, of which there are 4 that were used, named or mentioned by Barks.
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderDonald borrows a horse from his grandpa in 1943's "The Hard Loser".
I assume this grandpa is Grandma Duck's husband. In any case, Donald must have two grandfathers, both of which are already included in Rosa's Family Tree.
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderThe nephews also have ancestors appear in King Scrooge the First.
This answer is right! :) Three unnamed Princes of Sagbad can be added to the list of relatives.
GeoX
Barks Quiz
Message 37 -
2012-01-12 at 20:52:05
Quote from user: Lars JensenThe characters have to have been used, named or mentioned by Carl Barks. Barks did this with Brigitta MacBridge in http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=XFC+ALP++13IC .
Yes, I suppose in a strict "letter-of-the-law" sense, but not in an actual sense, given that that picture was not drawn for publication. If we counted it, then we would also have to comb through all of Barks' correspondence and all his interviews to find out if he might not have named someone else we could "count."
Yes, I suppose in a strict "letter-of-the-law" sense, but not in an actual sense, given that that picture was not drawn for publication. If we counted it, then we would also have to comb through all of Barks' correspondence and all his interviews to find out if he might not have named someone else we could "count."
GeoX
Barks Quiz
Message 38 -
2012-01-12 at 21:02:21
Ooh! Thought of another one: Daisy's Aunt Drusilla in "The Not-So-Ancient Mariner."
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+312-01
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+312-01
Michiel P
Barks Quiz
Message 39 -
2012-01-12 at 21:41:54
Quote from user: Robb_KRosa SHOULD have used him, as his last (family) name IS known. [...] Barks used an "Uncle Eider Duck" in a 1940s 10-pager in WDC #47.
Uncle Eider Duck ("Farragut the Falcon") is included in Rosa's Family Tree as Donald's uncle. Could he be the same person as Grandma's Uncle Eider ("Gold of the '49ers")?
See also: http://www.fumetti.org/jpg/barks72a.jpg & http://www.fumetti.org/jpg/barks72b.jpg
Quote from user: GeoX[...] that picture was not drawn for publication. If we counted it, then we would also have to comb through all of Barks' correspondence and all his interviews
Since that sketch is fairly well known, I would have counted it, if it had any relevance to the quiz. As a matter of fact, while most of the missing relatives were used or mentioned in comics, two of them weren't. The names of two unseen characters stem from a different medium.
[quote=GeoX]Daisy's Aunt Drusilla in "The Not-So-Ancient Mariner."
This answer is right! :)
Uncle Eider Duck ("Farragut the Falcon") is included in Rosa's Family Tree as Donald's uncle. Could he be the same person as Grandma's Uncle Eider ("Gold of the '49ers")?
See also: http://www.fumetti.org/jpg/barks72a.jpg & http://www.fumetti.org/jpg/barks72b.jpg
Quote from user: GeoX[...] that picture was not drawn for publication. If we counted it, then we would also have to comb through all of Barks' correspondence and all his interviews
Since that sketch is fairly well known, I would have counted it, if it had any relevance to the quiz. As a matter of fact, while most of the missing relatives were used or mentioned in comics, two of them weren't. The names of two unseen characters stem from a different medium.
[quote=GeoX]Daisy's Aunt Drusilla in "The Not-So-Ancient Mariner."
This answer is right! :)
Arild
Barks Quiz
Message 40 -
2012-01-12 at 22:06:16
Quote from user: Michiel PQuote from user: ArildMatey McDuck and Pintail?
But those were already included in Rosa's Family Tree!
OK ;)
I can see Pintail Duck now.
And Don Rosa's name Malcolm for Matey McDuck...
But those were already included in Rosa's Family Tree!
OK ;)
I can see Pintail Duck now.
And Don Rosa's name Malcolm for Matey McDuck...
GeoX
Barks Quiz
Message 41 -
2012-01-12 at 22:20:28
Oh boy! What fun! A few more:
-In "The Heirloom Watch," Scrooge mentions his grandfather and great-grandfather. Not that it's some big surprise that he has ancestors, but I don't think Rosa mentions these two at any point, and they're certainly not on his family tree, so there you go.
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+US+++10-03
-In "The Gilded Man," the rare stamp is on a letter addressed to one "Susiebelle Swan," Gladstone's "distant relative."
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+OS++422-02
-In "The Sunken Yacht," Scrooge tricks Donald with a note supposedly from his late "Uncle Marmaduke Mallard." Granted, this is probably someone Scrooge just made up, but...
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+104-02
-In "The Heirloom Watch," Scrooge mentions his grandfather and great-grandfather. Not that it's some big surprise that he has ancestors, but I don't think Rosa mentions these two at any point, and they're certainly not on his family tree, so there you go.
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+US+++10-03
-In "The Gilded Man," the rare stamp is on a letter addressed to one "Susiebelle Swan," Gladstone's "distant relative."
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+OS++422-02
-In "The Sunken Yacht," Scrooge tricks Donald with a note supposedly from his late "Uncle Marmaduke Mallard." Granted, this is probably someone Scrooge just made up, but...
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+104-02
GeoX
Barks Quiz
Message 42 -
2012-01-12 at 22:33:09
Comment Withdrawn!
Arild
Barks Quiz
Message 43 -
2012-01-12 at 22:40:42
Quote from user: GeoX...also, while we've noted Scrooge-Shah and the unnamed nephews in "King Scrooge the First," I think we've somehow missed Donald's ancestor, who was named "Prince Donduk."
Quote from user: ArildIf King Scrooge-Shah counts...
Prince Donduk? (Same story)
;)
Quote from user: ArildIf King Scrooge-Shah counts...
Prince Donduk? (Same story)
;)
Michiel P
Barks Quiz
Message 44 -
2012-01-12 at 23:37:07
Quote from user: GeoXIn "The Heirloom Watch," Scrooge mentions his grandfather and great-grandfather. [...] They're certainly not on his family tree, so there you go.
Hoo boy, fun indeed! I think I've got this one covered.
To begin with, Scrooge mentions his grandfather and great-great-grandfather on the McDuck side: "This small ticker has been in the McDuck family for two hundred years!" [...] "It ran faithfully for my grandfather and his grandfather, and it has run faithfully for me, for many, many years."
- Scrooge's grandfather is included in Rosa's Family Tree, as "Dirty" Dingus McDuck. "My grandfather wore a miner's cap!", as Scrooge said in "The Hound of the Whiskervilles".
- According to Lo$ 1, page 15, Scrooge's great-great-grandfather is Captain Seafoam McDuck, who's also included in Rosa's Family Tree. (That is, according to Fergus and Jake, he's their great-grandfather. Scrooge screws this up in Lo$ 4, where he refers to Seafoam as his great-great-great-grandfather.)
Quote from user: GeoXIn "The Gilded Man," the rare stamp is on a letter addressed to one "Susiebelle Swan," Gladstone's "distant relative."
This answer is right! :)
Quote from user: GeoXIn "The Sunken Yacht," Scrooge tricks Donald with a note supposedly from his late "Uncle Marmaduke Mallard." Granted, this is probably someone Scrooge just made up, but...
I'm inclined to dismiss this uncle as a fake, but since I included at least one fairly suspicious aunt, we must nevertheless admit Uncle Marmaduke to the list. You get an extra bonus point for this one, because he had escaped my attention. ;)
Hoo boy, fun indeed! I think I've got this one covered.
To begin with, Scrooge mentions his grandfather and great-great-grandfather on the McDuck side: "This small ticker has been in the McDuck family for two hundred years!" [...] "It ran faithfully for my grandfather and his grandfather, and it has run faithfully for me, for many, many years."
- Scrooge's grandfather is included in Rosa's Family Tree, as "Dirty" Dingus McDuck. "My grandfather wore a miner's cap!", as Scrooge said in "The Hound of the Whiskervilles".
- According to Lo$ 1, page 15, Scrooge's great-great-grandfather is Captain Seafoam McDuck, who's also included in Rosa's Family Tree. (That is, according to Fergus and Jake, he's their great-grandfather. Scrooge screws this up in Lo$ 4, where he refers to Seafoam as his great-great-great-grandfather.)
Quote from user: GeoXIn "The Gilded Man," the rare stamp is on a letter addressed to one "Susiebelle Swan," Gladstone's "distant relative."
This answer is right! :)
Quote from user: GeoXIn "The Sunken Yacht," Scrooge tricks Donald with a note supposedly from his late "Uncle Marmaduke Mallard." Granted, this is probably someone Scrooge just made up, but...
I'm inclined to dismiss this uncle as a fake, but since I included at least one fairly suspicious aunt, we must nevertheless admit Uncle Marmaduke to the list. You get an extra bonus point for this one, because he had escaped my attention. ;)
Robb_K
Barks Quiz
Message 45 -
2012-01-12 at 23:57:49
In English/American terms, Donald's Uncle Eider Duck COULD be Donald's own grandmother's uncle. He would then be Donald's "Great, Great Uncle" (over, over uncle! Ha! Ha!). That would be true IF Grandma Duck married Grandpa Duck (Donald's FATHER's FATHER). It is also possible that her maiden name was also "Duck". But we should stay away from the assumption that almost ALL of the unknown family names of "ducklike" Barks characters stated as relations to "The Duck family" have the surname, "Duck".