In the last digest...
>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 09:33:59 CDT
>From: krieg at ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379)
>Subject: Re: digest #8
Andrew <krieg at ct.med.ge.com> said:
>I have recently been trying to track down your non-Disney work.
>I was able to find "Don Rosa's Comics and Stories" 1 & 2 fairly
>easy. Finding the collected works of Captain Kentucky has not
>been so easy. I even called used book stores and comic stores in
>the Louisville area (I live in Wisconsin) to locate some of these
>books (and it worked)! My DRC&S #2 (or is it #1), which I got
>from a Lousiville store is even autographed by you! At least
>that's what the clerk claimed. Do you recall signing any of these
>(mine is signed right in the center of the circle on the cover)?
>Do you have any insight into locating copies of the Captain
>Kentucky books? I have tried Kentucky book stores, as well as the
>newspaper that used to print the strip and sold the reprint
>volumes, but no luck. I only have the first book. Weren't there
>3 altogether?
Andy, you also made this remark:
>There are a lot more readers than those who post regularly
>(generally we're called lurkers). I appreciate that we do have
>those who keep the information flow going.[...]
Well... while you were some where `lurking' -- I had made this
proposal to everyone one on the list:
>[...] If not would any of you over-seas collectors be interested
>in trading this book (or any other stories we Yanks may not have)
>for copies of "The Captain Kentucky Collections" (Volumes I-III)
>or the two "The Pertwillaby(sp?) Papers"?
This also entails *ALL* of my fellow countrymen... even ones who
live in Wisconsin (just kidding :-) So unless you want to
specificly enlist help from Don himself I'm pretty sure I can get
them for you!
Gil Milburn<gilbert at unix.campbellsvile.edu.>
Author
Topic: 199305
(145 messages)
Gilbert Milburn
Don's pre-Disney works!
Message 1 -
1993-05-01 at 00:56:43
Gilbert Milburn
Don's pre-Disney works!
Message 2 -
1993-05-01 at 00:59:24
In the last digest...
>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 09:33:59 CDT
>From: krieg at ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379)
>Subject: Re: digest #8
Andrew <krieg at ct.med.ge.com> said:
>I have recently been trying to track down your non-Disney work.
>I was able to find "Don Rosa's Comics and Stories" 1 & 2 fairly
>easy. Finding the collected works of Captain Kentucky has not
>been so easy. I even called used book stores and comic stores in
>the Louisville area (I live in Wisconsin) to locate some of these
>books (and it worked)! My DRC&S #2 (or is it #1), which I got
>from a Lousiville store is even autographed by you! At least
>that's what the clerk claimed. Do you recall signing any of these
>(mine is signed right in the center of the circle on the cover)?
>Do you have any insight into locating copies of the Captain
>Kentucky books? I have tried Kentucky book stores, as well as the
>newspaper that used to print the strip and sold the reprint
>volumes, but no luck. I only have the first book. Weren't there
>3 altogether?
Andy, you also made this remark:
>There are a lot more readers than those who post regularly
>(generally we're called lurkers). I appreciate that we do have
>those who keep the information flow going.[...]
Well... while you were some where `lurking' -- I had made this
proposal to everyone one on the list:
>[...] If not would any of you over-seas collectors be interested
>in trading this book (or any other stories we Yanks may not have)
>for copies of "The Captain Kentucky Collections" (Volumes I-III)
>or the two "The Pertwillaby(sp?) Papers"?
This also entails *ALL* of my fellow countrymen... even ones who
live in Wisconsin (just kidding :-) So unless you want to
specificly enlist help from Don himself I'm pretty sure I can get
them for you!
Gil Milburn<gilbert at unix.campbellsvile.edu.>
>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 09:33:59 CDT
>From: krieg at ct.med.ge.com (Andrew Krieg 5-5379)
>Subject: Re: digest #8
Andrew <krieg at ct.med.ge.com> said:
>I have recently been trying to track down your non-Disney work.
>I was able to find "Don Rosa's Comics and Stories" 1 & 2 fairly
>easy. Finding the collected works of Captain Kentucky has not
>been so easy. I even called used book stores and comic stores in
>the Louisville area (I live in Wisconsin) to locate some of these
>books (and it worked)! My DRC&S #2 (or is it #1), which I got
>from a Lousiville store is even autographed by you! At least
>that's what the clerk claimed. Do you recall signing any of these
>(mine is signed right in the center of the circle on the cover)?
>Do you have any insight into locating copies of the Captain
>Kentucky books? I have tried Kentucky book stores, as well as the
>newspaper that used to print the strip and sold the reprint
>volumes, but no luck. I only have the first book. Weren't there
>3 altogether?
Andy, you also made this remark:
>There are a lot more readers than those who post regularly
>(generally we're called lurkers). I appreciate that we do have
>those who keep the information flow going.[...]
Well... while you were some where `lurking' -- I had made this
proposal to everyone one on the list:
>[...] If not would any of you over-seas collectors be interested
>in trading this book (or any other stories we Yanks may not have)
>for copies of "The Captain Kentucky Collections" (Volumes I-III)
>or the two "The Pertwillaby(sp?) Papers"?
This also entails *ALL* of my fellow countrymen... even ones who
live in Wisconsin (just kidding :-) So unless you want to
specificly enlist help from Don himself I'm pretty sure I can get
them for you!
Gil Milburn<gilbert at unix.campbellsvile.edu.>
Per Starbäck
[Don Rosa: Disney comics mailing list digest #3]
Message 3 -
1993-05-01 at 05:14:32
[I have redirected this piece of mail from Don that got to me instead
of the list. /PS]
Here's some comments on an old digest that I must not have read thoroughly. A few remarks from Per Starbuck about my defining "facts"
in the $crooge series.
I did need to tell the story of $crooge earning the #1 dime, and before I decided what that tale might be, I at least LOOKED at that
boring old Strobl/? tale and saw the bit where he's a shoeshine boy chipping mud off a ditchdigger's boots. I feel no obligation to
stick to anything in a non-Barks story... BUT $crooge as a shoeshine boy as his first job seemed quite appropo, so I stuck with it.
The trick was coming up with a reason for him to be paid with an American dime when he would still have been in Scotland.
And as for Barks changing details of characters' histories from their very earliest appearances, I don't see Gladstone as being a
nephew as an example of that. I figure he only calls $crooge "Uncle $crooge" since it's sorta his title (after all, that's the name
of his comic even). In truth, Gladstone is NOT a relative of $crooge McDuck Gladstone is the son of $crooge's sister's sister-in-law.
Is that a relative?
of the list. /PS]
Here's some comments on an old digest that I must not have read thoroughly. A few remarks from Per Starbuck about my defining "facts"
in the $crooge series.
I did need to tell the story of $crooge earning the #1 dime, and before I decided what that tale might be, I at least LOOKED at that
boring old Strobl/? tale and saw the bit where he's a shoeshine boy chipping mud off a ditchdigger's boots. I feel no obligation to
stick to anything in a non-Barks story... BUT $crooge as a shoeshine boy as his first job seemed quite appropo, so I stuck with it.
The trick was coming up with a reason for him to be paid with an American dime when he would still have been in Scotland.
And as for Barks changing details of characters' histories from their very earliest appearances, I don't see Gladstone as being a
nephew as an example of that. I figure he only calls $crooge "Uncle $crooge" since it's sorta his title (after all, that's the name
of his comic even). In truth, Gladstone is NOT a relative of $crooge McDuck Gladstone is the son of $crooge's sister's sister-in-law.
Is that a relative?
Don Rosa
Digest #9
Message 4 -
1993-05-01 at 06:56:42
COMMENTS ON DIGEST #9:
Andy Krieg wants to locate copies of my CAPTAIN KENTUCKY COLLECTION newspaper strip reprint volumes. You come to da right place --
I have a garage full of the #$%@& things! Andy (or anyone) can send me a self-addressed, stamped (enough for 3 magazines) envelope,
and I'll send them copies FREE. I wish I could also supply copies of DON ROSA'S COMICS AND STORIES, but no can do. My address is me,
9711 Dawson Hill Road, Louisville, KY, 40299.
HARRY FLUKS -- did you ever say where you're located? In Holland? Sweden? Burbank?
I would be most anxious and appreciative to obtain Dutch reprints of my stories from you!!! I do have a few, but not many, and I would
be likewise anxious to obtain duplicates of those few anyway. So, I'll take 'em ALL. You have my address above. And tell me what the
costs will be.
Someone said that the Fins have printed those 4 or 5 missing pages from "Back to the Klondike". I don't see the Finnish comics, so
I can't say anything for sure... but I don't see HOW they could print that art since it has never been in the Disney or Egmont files,
or anywhere outside of Bruce Hamilton's vault in Prescott. Maybe they took shots off a Gladstone edition, which would not be illegal
in any way since, even though Disney has no copies of the art, it's still their copyrighted property. Same as the Dutch using those
Barks paintings on their back covers and Egmont using them as stamp give-aways... neither Hamilton nor Barks knew about this until
I happened to mention seeing same. And though they felt misused and robbed, there's not much they can do about it since the images
are Disney property, not Hamilton's or Barks'. Still, Egmont had been asked NOT to use the paintings, and when I inadvertantly had let
it slip, they decided to cut it out since they had some non-binding "obligation" to pay Barks a royalty for such use, just out of respect,
the same way Gladstone and Disney paid Barks a royalty whenever they reprint one of his old stories (though I suspect the reason for
doing that is simply to stay on Barks' bright side for when they might need his favors).
Andy Krieg wants to locate copies of my CAPTAIN KENTUCKY COLLECTION newspaper strip reprint volumes. You come to da right place --
I have a garage full of the #$%@& things! Andy (or anyone) can send me a self-addressed, stamped (enough for 3 magazines) envelope,
and I'll send them copies FREE. I wish I could also supply copies of DON ROSA'S COMICS AND STORIES, but no can do. My address is me,
9711 Dawson Hill Road, Louisville, KY, 40299.
HARRY FLUKS -- did you ever say where you're located? In Holland? Sweden? Burbank?
I would be most anxious and appreciative to obtain Dutch reprints of my stories from you!!! I do have a few, but not many, and I would
be likewise anxious to obtain duplicates of those few anyway. So, I'll take 'em ALL. You have my address above. And tell me what the
costs will be.
Someone said that the Fins have printed those 4 or 5 missing pages from "Back to the Klondike". I don't see the Finnish comics, so
I can't say anything for sure... but I don't see HOW they could print that art since it has never been in the Disney or Egmont files,
or anywhere outside of Bruce Hamilton's vault in Prescott. Maybe they took shots off a Gladstone edition, which would not be illegal
in any way since, even though Disney has no copies of the art, it's still their copyrighted property. Same as the Dutch using those
Barks paintings on their back covers and Egmont using them as stamp give-aways... neither Hamilton nor Barks knew about this until
I happened to mention seeing same. And though they felt misused and robbed, there's not much they can do about it since the images
are Disney property, not Hamilton's or Barks'. Still, Egmont had been asked NOT to use the paintings, and when I inadvertantly had let
it slip, they decided to cut it out since they had some non-binding "obligation" to pay Barks a royalty for such use, just out of respect,
the same way Gladstone and Disney paid Barks a royalty whenever they reprint one of his old stories (though I suspect the reason for
doing that is simply to stay on Barks' bright side for when they might need his favors).
Torsten Wesley Adair
[Don Rosa: Disney comics mailing list digest #3]
Message 5 -
1993-05-01 at 17:11:25
On Sat, 1 May 1993, Per Starb{ck wrote:
> [I have redirected this piece of mail from Don that got to me instead
> of the list. /PS]
> And as for Barks changing details of characters' histories from their
very earliest appearances, I don't see Gladstone as being a nephew as an
example of that. I figure he only calls $crooge "Uncle $crooge" since it's
sorta his title (after all, that's the name of his comic even). In truth,
Gladstone is NOT a relative of $crooge McDuck Gladstone is the son of
$crooge's sister's sister-in-law. Is that a relative?
Uncle Scrooge US's Sister - Husband Husband's Sister - ?
Gladstone
Wouldn't US's sister's sister-in-law be US's sister-in-law?
Or do I have better relations with my brother's in-laws than US does?
Of course, this means that there are four unknown relatives we have not
heard about. Since they are married couples, we probably never will.
Why do I have the feeling that everyone in Duckburg is related to everyone
else? Or is it that all of Scrooge's relatives live in Duckburg so that
they can get the best seats at the reading of US's will?
I would not be surprised if Gladstone was the seventh son of a seventh
son, or something like that.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Did anyone catch the logic error in the recent DDA story by Van Horn?
> [I have redirected this piece of mail from Don that got to me instead
> of the list. /PS]
> And as for Barks changing details of characters' histories from their
very earliest appearances, I don't see Gladstone as being a nephew as an
example of that. I figure he only calls $crooge "Uncle $crooge" since it's
sorta his title (after all, that's the name of his comic even). In truth,
Gladstone is NOT a relative of $crooge McDuck Gladstone is the son of
$crooge's sister's sister-in-law. Is that a relative?
Uncle Scrooge US's Sister - Husband Husband's Sister - ?
Gladstone
Wouldn't US's sister's sister-in-law be US's sister-in-law?
Or do I have better relations with my brother's in-laws than US does?
Of course, this means that there are four unknown relatives we have not
heard about. Since they are married couples, we probably never will.
Why do I have the feeling that everyone in Duckburg is related to everyone
else? Or is it that all of Scrooge's relatives live in Duckburg so that
they can get the best seats at the reading of US's will?
I would not be surprised if Gladstone was the seventh son of a seventh
son, or something like that.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Did anyone catch the logic error in the recent DDA story by Van Horn?
Don Rosa
Digest #10
Message 6 -
1993-05-03 at 09:03:16
COMMENTS ON #10:
Not too much here to reply to.
One's sister's sister-in-law is NO earthly relation to you. Your sister's husband is your so-called brother-in-law... but surely
it stops there. Yes, you must have good relations with your... relations. Me, I'm the opposite; I dislike my wife's relatives so much
that I refuse to even acknowledge that there is such a thing as an "in-law", period. My wife's relatives are hers, not mine. No way.
Simply because the question is asked, I'm curious about this error in logic in some recent Van Horn story. I personally don't read
his stuff. I recognize that he's a far better cartoonist than I, as far as the drawing goes. But I dislike his "Krazy Kat" style on
the Barksian Ducks (which should have a more "classical" look)... and I consider his treatment of the characters to be insulting to
them in its frivolity. But that's me -- I see $crooge as an adventure hero... I guess Van Horn sees him as somebody who should be
throwing acorns at Chip n' Dale.
Not too much here to reply to.
One's sister's sister-in-law is NO earthly relation to you. Your sister's husband is your so-called brother-in-law... but surely
it stops there. Yes, you must have good relations with your... relations. Me, I'm the opposite; I dislike my wife's relatives so much
that I refuse to even acknowledge that there is such a thing as an "in-law", period. My wife's relatives are hers, not mine. No way.
Simply because the question is asked, I'm curious about this error in logic in some recent Van Horn story. I personally don't read
his stuff. I recognize that he's a far better cartoonist than I, as far as the drawing goes. But I dislike his "Krazy Kat" style on
the Barksian Ducks (which should have a more "classical" look)... and I consider his treatment of the characters to be insulting to
them in its frivolity. But that's me -- I see $crooge as an adventure hero... I guess Van Horn sees him as somebody who should be
throwing acorns at Chip n' Dale.
Per Starback
Relatives
Message 7 -
1993-05-03 at 10:33:56
I concede that there really is nothing contradictory about the
relationships in "Trail of the Unicorn". It isn't even possible that
Barks hadn't made up his mind yet about it yet, as Barks did "Race to
the South Seas" before "Trail of the Unicorn", so I was not only
wrong, but utterly wrong.
Don> In truth, Gladstone is NOT a relative of $crooge McDuck Gladstone
Don> is the son of $crooge's sister's sister-in-law. Is that a
Don> relative?
Torsten> Wouldn't US's sister's sister-in-law be US's sister-in-law?
I don't know what scope the in-law words usually have, but that's how
Barks (or at least Sylvester Shyster, Scrooge's personal lawyer) uses
them. In "Race to the South Seas" with the revelations about the
relationship between Scrooge, Donald, and Gladstone:
DD: And my uncle on my mother's side is Scrooge McDuck, [...]
GG: So what? Scrooge McDuck is *my* mother's brother's
brother-in-law, [...]
that lawyer asks Gladstone "Say, aren't you Gladstone Gander, son of
Scrooge McDuck's sister-in-law?" Later in the same story Gladstone is
called "nephew-in-law" of Scrooge. If that is a relative? They all
see it that way anyhow. Donald and Gladstone are arguing about who of
them is Scrooge's favourite relative. Compare also WDC 155 where
Scrooge says that "my only relatives are my nephew, Donald, and his
nephews, Huey, Dewey, and Louie, and my distant nephew, Gladstone
Gander! ... What a collection!"
But at least he makes that distinction between nephew and "distant
nephew". At the end of "Race to the South Seas" Gladstone calls
Scrooge "Uncle Scrooge" to which Scrooge replies "I'm *not* your
uncle". That explains that it takes awhile before Gladstone dares to
call him uncle again.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
relationships in "Trail of the Unicorn". It isn't even possible that
Barks hadn't made up his mind yet about it yet, as Barks did "Race to
the South Seas" before "Trail of the Unicorn", so I was not only
wrong, but utterly wrong.
Don> In truth, Gladstone is NOT a relative of $crooge McDuck Gladstone
Don> is the son of $crooge's sister's sister-in-law. Is that a
Don> relative?
Torsten> Wouldn't US's sister's sister-in-law be US's sister-in-law?
I don't know what scope the in-law words usually have, but that's how
Barks (or at least Sylvester Shyster, Scrooge's personal lawyer) uses
them. In "Race to the South Seas" with the revelations about the
relationship between Scrooge, Donald, and Gladstone:
DD: And my uncle on my mother's side is Scrooge McDuck, [...]
GG: So what? Scrooge McDuck is *my* mother's brother's
brother-in-law, [...]
that lawyer asks Gladstone "Say, aren't you Gladstone Gander, son of
Scrooge McDuck's sister-in-law?" Later in the same story Gladstone is
called "nephew-in-law" of Scrooge. If that is a relative? They all
see it that way anyhow. Donald and Gladstone are arguing about who of
them is Scrooge's favourite relative. Compare also WDC 155 where
Scrooge says that "my only relatives are my nephew, Donald, and his
nephews, Huey, Dewey, and Louie, and my distant nephew, Gladstone
Gander! ... What a collection!"
But at least he makes that distinction between nephew and "distant
nephew". At the end of "Race to the South Seas" Gladstone calls
Scrooge "Uncle Scrooge" to which Scrooge replies "I'm *not* your
uncle". That explains that it takes awhile before Gladstone dares to
call him uncle again.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Harry Fluks
Replies to Rosa's comments on Digest #9
Message 8 -
1993-05-03 at 10:59:01
Don Rosa wrote his COMMENTS ON DIGEST #9:
> Andy Krieg wants to locate copies of my CAPTAIN KENTUCKY COLLECTION
> newspaper strip reprint volumes. You come to da right place --
> I have a garage full of the #$%@& things! (...)
> HARRY FLUKS -- did you ever say where you're located? In Holland?
> Sweden? Burbank?
I'm in Holland. The word 'Dutch' in my signature would indicate that. Also,
(re)read my 2nd message in digest #3 (there's an unanswered Jippes question
there, too 8-)
> I would be most anxious and appreciative to obtain Dutch reprints of
> my stories from you!!! I do have a few, but not many, and I would
> be likewise anxious to obtain duplicates of those few anyway. So, I'll
> take 'em ALL. You have my address above. And tell me what the
> costs will be.
I'll send what I can get. This may take some time, though...
About the costs: no need to pay me for anything... since I'm working for
the Dutch mail company, I'll get a bit (1/90000th) of my stamps back in my
salary...
I know two other ways you can pay me:
- have a garage sale
- stay a bit longer on this list.
> Someone said that the Fins have printed those 4 or 5 missing pages
> from "Back to the Klondike". I don't see the Finnish comics, so
> I can't say anything for sure... but I don't see HOW they could print that
> art since it has never been in the Disney or Egmont files,
> or anywhere outside of Bruce Hamilton's vault in Prescott. Maybe they took
> shots off a Gladstone edition, which would not be illegal
> in any way since, even though Disney has no copies of the art, it's still
> their copyrighted property.
4 of the missing pages from the Klondike story were reprinted in Finland,
according to an old fanzine issue ("Sarjainfo"). The same 4 pages were
reprinted in Holland in 1978, LONG before Gladstone even existed. Just
like other rare Barks stories, they got copies from (copies from) fans
from all over the world. They were just too happy to be able to reprint
Barks stories! (BTW: That's how Holland became the first country in the world
that reprinted the famous milkman story.)
Only 4 1/2 of the 5 missing pages are recovered. The remaining 1/2 page has been
re-penciled by Barks and inked by Jippes. All of this work has been reprinted
in Holland recently, and this time they DID use some copies of the Carl Barks
Library.
> Same as the Dutch using those
> Barks paintings on their back covers and Egmont using them as stamp
> give-aways... neither Hamilton nor Barks knew about this until
> I happened to mention seeing same. And though they felt misused and robbed,
> there's not much they can do about it since the images
> are Disney property, not Hamilton's or Barks'.
I'm surprised they feel misused and robbed. I'm sure the Dutch editor doesn't
know this. I think it is a good thing that these Barks paintings are published
in issues for a great public and at a reasonable price. As much people as
possible should be able to enjoy Barks' work, not only a few rich fans.
BTW: Mr. Hamilton used some Dutch and Danish re-inked versions of Barks
stories in the Carl Barks Library, without giving them any credit...
(I don't know why I'm defending the Dutch editor; I have no connection
with them at all. Patriottism?)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> Andy Krieg wants to locate copies of my CAPTAIN KENTUCKY COLLECTION
> newspaper strip reprint volumes. You come to da right place --
> I have a garage full of the #$%@& things! (...)
> HARRY FLUKS -- did you ever say where you're located? In Holland?
> Sweden? Burbank?
I'm in Holland. The word 'Dutch' in my signature would indicate that. Also,
(re)read my 2nd message in digest #3 (there's an unanswered Jippes question
there, too 8-)
> I would be most anxious and appreciative to obtain Dutch reprints of
> my stories from you!!! I do have a few, but not many, and I would
> be likewise anxious to obtain duplicates of those few anyway. So, I'll
> take 'em ALL. You have my address above. And tell me what the
> costs will be.
I'll send what I can get. This may take some time, though...
About the costs: no need to pay me for anything... since I'm working for
the Dutch mail company, I'll get a bit (1/90000th) of my stamps back in my
salary...
I know two other ways you can pay me:
- have a garage sale
- stay a bit longer on this list.
> Someone said that the Fins have printed those 4 or 5 missing pages
> from "Back to the Klondike". I don't see the Finnish comics, so
> I can't say anything for sure... but I don't see HOW they could print that
> art since it has never been in the Disney or Egmont files,
> or anywhere outside of Bruce Hamilton's vault in Prescott. Maybe they took
> shots off a Gladstone edition, which would not be illegal
> in any way since, even though Disney has no copies of the art, it's still
> their copyrighted property.
4 of the missing pages from the Klondike story were reprinted in Finland,
according to an old fanzine issue ("Sarjainfo"). The same 4 pages were
reprinted in Holland in 1978, LONG before Gladstone even existed. Just
like other rare Barks stories, they got copies from (copies from) fans
from all over the world. They were just too happy to be able to reprint
Barks stories! (BTW: That's how Holland became the first country in the world
that reprinted the famous milkman story.)
Only 4 1/2 of the 5 missing pages are recovered. The remaining 1/2 page has been
re-penciled by Barks and inked by Jippes. All of this work has been reprinted
in Holland recently, and this time they DID use some copies of the Carl Barks
Library.
> Same as the Dutch using those
> Barks paintings on their back covers and Egmont using them as stamp
> give-aways... neither Hamilton nor Barks knew about this until
> I happened to mention seeing same. And though they felt misused and robbed,
> there's not much they can do about it since the images
> are Disney property, not Hamilton's or Barks'.
I'm surprised they feel misused and robbed. I'm sure the Dutch editor doesn't
know this. I think it is a good thing that these Barks paintings are published
in issues for a great public and at a reasonable price. As much people as
possible should be able to enjoy Barks' work, not only a few rich fans.
BTW: Mr. Hamilton used some Dutch and Danish re-inked versions of Barks
stories in the Carl Barks Library, without giving them any credit...
(I don't know why I'm defending the Dutch editor; I have no connection
with them at all. Patriottism?)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Per Starback
William Van Horn; Captain Kentucky Collection
Message 9 -
1993-05-03 at 12:31:15
Don Rosa on Van Horn:
> But I dislike his "Krazy Kat" style on the Barksian Ducks (which
> should have a more "classical" look)... and I consider his treatment
> of the characters to be insulting to them in its frivolity. But that's
> me -- I see $crooge as an adventure hero... I guess Van Horn sees him
> as somebody who should be throwing acorns at Chip n' Dale.
Scrooge isn't the only duck in the family, you know, and Van Horn
doesn't even use Scrooge that much. There are many ways of upholding
Barks's banner, and I think Van Horn's stories are worthy heirs of
Barks's ten-pagers.
Don Rosa again:
> Andy Krieg wants to locate copies of my CAPTAIN KENTUCKY COLLECTION
> newspaper strip reprint volumes. You come to da right place -- I have
> a garage full of the #$%@& things! Andy (or anyone) can send me a
> self-addressed, stamped (enough for 3 magazines) envelope, and I'll
> send them copies FREE.
Great! Thanks for the generous offer! How much postage is needed to
send them overseas?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> But I dislike his "Krazy Kat" style on the Barksian Ducks (which
> should have a more "classical" look)... and I consider his treatment
> of the characters to be insulting to them in its frivolity. But that's
> me -- I see $crooge as an adventure hero... I guess Van Horn sees him
> as somebody who should be throwing acorns at Chip n' Dale.
Scrooge isn't the only duck in the family, you know, and Van Horn
doesn't even use Scrooge that much. There are many ways of upholding
Barks's banner, and I think Van Horn's stories are worthy heirs of
Barks's ten-pagers.
Don Rosa again:
> Andy Krieg wants to locate copies of my CAPTAIN KENTUCKY COLLECTION
> newspaper strip reprint volumes. You come to da right place -- I have
> a garage full of the #$%@& things! Andy (or anyone) can send me a
> self-addressed, stamped (enough for 3 magazines) envelope, and I'll
> send them copies FREE.
Great! Thanks for the generous offer! How much postage is needed to
send them overseas?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Gilbert Milburn
MISC: CBG Fan Awards Ballot (This is our chance!)
Message 10 -
1993-05-04 at 01:35:19
*** "DISNEY-COMICS' FANS UNITE!!!" ***
Here is a copy of the Comics Buyer's Guide 1992 Fan Award ballot.
Fill it out (circulate a copy to all your friends, who are Disney
fans), send it in and if we all pull together -- who knows, a Disney
comic-book could literally win *BIG* ... maybe even one by Don!
It came to me by way of...
>April 30, 1993 The Comics List Weekly Vol. 3 No. 17 (Part 9)
>This Week:
>Fan Guide Poll : Fill it out and get a free copy of CBG!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Date: 28 Apr 1993 09:34:58 -0500 (EST)
>From: Greg McElhatton <STU_GLMCELHA at JMUVAX.BITNET>
`Wrote a better description of the rules!'
==========================================
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:00:42 PDT
>From: jrd at frame.com (James Drew)
`Drafted a superior ballot!'
==========================================
>Subject: Comic Buyer's Guide Fan Poll
>COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE
>1992 FAN AWARDS
>What are your favorites in the world of comics? COMIC BUYER'S
>GUIDE, the weekly newspaper devoted to the world of comic books,
>sponsors these awards to let you, the reader, cast your ballot in
>determining what the fan favorites are for the year.
>RULES AND REGULATIONS: Only material with a 1992 cover date can
>win. Votes for projects that did not have a 1992 publication date
>on them will not be counted. This ballot may be copied and passed
>on to your friends for their votes. Anyone who loves comics can
>vote--but only vote once. If you vote more than once, ALL your
>votes will be thrown out. Vote only in the categories you want,
>and ignore any you don't. COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE is not eligible for
>Category 15. Every CBG voter in the United States will get a free
>issue of COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE with the results (scheduled to be
>#1029, dated August 6, 1993), unless you already have a current
>subscription to CBG. Votes from other countries will be counted,
>but we regret that free copies of CBG can't be mailed out of the
>country unless your vote is accompanied by $3.00 in U.S. funds to
>cover handling and shipping. The award winners will be announced
>at the Atlanta Comics Expo, held July 16-18, 1993.
>Mail your ballot individually in a single envelope by June 1, 1993
>to:
>Comic Buyer's Guide Fan Awards
>700 E. State St.
>Iola, WI 54990-0001
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~cut here~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Name: Age:
Street or Box: Male or Female:
City, State, and Zip:
I got this ballot from: (enter newsgroup or mailing list
name here)
Favorite Editor:
Favorite Writer:
Favorite Penciller:
Favorite Inker:
Favorite Colorist:
Favorite Painter:
Favorite Letterer:
Favorite Cover Artist:
Favorite Comic-Book Story:
Favorite Comic Book:
Favorite Limited Comic-Book Series:
Favorite Original Graphic Novel or Album:
Favorite Reprint Graphic Novel or Album:
Favorite Character:
Favorite Publication about Comics:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~cut here~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTW: Although, I saw this in "The Comics List Weekly" the Idea to
send this to my fellow allies of the net was entirely my idea!
Here is a copy of the Comics Buyer's Guide 1992 Fan Award ballot.
Fill it out (circulate a copy to all your friends, who are Disney
fans), send it in and if we all pull together -- who knows, a Disney
comic-book could literally win *BIG* ... maybe even one by Don!
It came to me by way of...
>April 30, 1993 The Comics List Weekly Vol. 3 No. 17 (Part 9)
>This Week:
>Fan Guide Poll : Fill it out and get a free copy of CBG!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Date: 28 Apr 1993 09:34:58 -0500 (EST)
>From: Greg McElhatton <STU_GLMCELHA at JMUVAX.BITNET>
`Wrote a better description of the rules!'
==========================================
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 16:00:42 PDT
>From: jrd at frame.com (James Drew)
`Drafted a superior ballot!'
==========================================
>Subject: Comic Buyer's Guide Fan Poll
>COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE
>1992 FAN AWARDS
>What are your favorites in the world of comics? COMIC BUYER'S
>GUIDE, the weekly newspaper devoted to the world of comic books,
>sponsors these awards to let you, the reader, cast your ballot in
>determining what the fan favorites are for the year.
>RULES AND REGULATIONS: Only material with a 1992 cover date can
>win. Votes for projects that did not have a 1992 publication date
>on them will not be counted. This ballot may be copied and passed
>on to your friends for their votes. Anyone who loves comics can
>vote--but only vote once. If you vote more than once, ALL your
>votes will be thrown out. Vote only in the categories you want,
>and ignore any you don't. COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE is not eligible for
>Category 15. Every CBG voter in the United States will get a free
>issue of COMIC BUYER'S GUIDE with the results (scheduled to be
>#1029, dated August 6, 1993), unless you already have a current
>subscription to CBG. Votes from other countries will be counted,
>but we regret that free copies of CBG can't be mailed out of the
>country unless your vote is accompanied by $3.00 in U.S. funds to
>cover handling and shipping. The award winners will be announced
>at the Atlanta Comics Expo, held July 16-18, 1993.
>Mail your ballot individually in a single envelope by June 1, 1993
>to:
>Comic Buyer's Guide Fan Awards
>700 E. State St.
>Iola, WI 54990-0001
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~cut here~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Name: Age:
Street or Box: Male or Female:
City, State, and Zip:
I got this ballot from: (enter newsgroup or mailing list
name here)
Favorite Editor:
Favorite Writer:
Favorite Penciller:
Favorite Inker:
Favorite Colorist:
Favorite Painter:
Favorite Letterer:
Favorite Cover Artist:
Favorite Comic-Book Story:
Favorite Comic Book:
Favorite Limited Comic-Book Series:
Favorite Original Graphic Novel or Album:
Favorite Reprint Graphic Novel or Album:
Favorite Character:
Favorite Publication about Comics:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~cut here~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BTW: Although, I saw this in "The Comics List Weekly" the Idea to
send this to my fellow allies of the net was entirely my idea!
Luigi Bevilacqua
Don's offer & other things...
Message 11 -
1993-05-04 at 13:14:36
===========================================================================
Reply about Rosa's offer,
Dear Don,
Do you realize how much mad we are about your art?
Do you realize how much work you will go to do in next weeks?
I think your garage will be empty in two months, maybe less...
Less important stuff:
You're in USA, right? (about your adress...)
But your surname doesn't seem American, or Dutch, or else.
Did your ancestors come from Italy, maybe?
Are you interested about your Italian version work? I don't buy everything
by Disney Co. here in Italy, but I can try to get more info.
--
Other question:
Do you know, folks, everything about Rosa or it's me who doesn't know
anything about him?
Am I the only one who wants to know more about Rosa's person?
BYE!!!
.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
| TH...TH...THAT'S ALL, FOLKS! Luigi <bevilal at ghost.dsi.unimi.it> |
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reply about Rosa's offer,
Dear Don,
Do you realize how much mad we are about your art?
Do you realize how much work you will go to do in next weeks?
I think your garage will be empty in two months, maybe less...
Less important stuff:
You're in USA, right? (about your adress...)
But your surname doesn't seem American, or Dutch, or else.
Did your ancestors come from Italy, maybe?
Are you interested about your Italian version work? I don't buy everything
by Disney Co. here in Italy, but I can try to get more info.
--
Other question:
Do you know, folks, everything about Rosa or it's me who doesn't know
anything about him?
Am I the only one who wants to know more about Rosa's person?
BYE!!!
.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
| TH...TH...THAT'S ALL, FOLKS! Luigi <bevilal at ghost.dsi.unimi.it> |
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don Rosa
Digest #11
Message 12 -
1993-05-04 at 16:14:50
COMMENTS:
Why do I sometimes get "returned, undeliverable mail" in my E-mail box? It's my replies to these digests, and it seems that my replies
are included in the next digest, so I don't know what was "undeliverable". I wish I knew who to ask these posers to.
As for Gladstone's relation to $crooge, "Race to the South Seas" IS the story to go to... but only partially, as Barks made an ERROR
in that story in explaining who Gladstone was to $crooge. Barks pointed this out to me himself when I was quizzing him while building
my "official" Family Tree. The line in that story of Gladstone being the son of $crooge's sister's sister-in-law is the accurate one.
I can't recall what the second phrase was in the story... something about $crooge being somebody's brother or such... but it is clearly
contradictory to the previous line and should be ignored. ALL will be clear when my Tree is printed throughout the Egmont countries
in a few weeks.
As far as poor fans having the right to see all of Barks' work like the rich fans... well, isn't that the age-old question? If Barks
owned his own work (which he doesn't), shouldn't he have the right to profit off or prevent the use of it at his whim? That's the way
every other creative field on the planet works, EXCEPT DISNEY COMICS. Disney is one of the last hold-outs to the middle ages in this
respect. I'd be quite upset by how little I'm paid for my (popular?) stories, and how I make not a cent in royalties no matter how many
companies use it or how well my comics sell... but I
KNEW that would be the way it would be. It still is far from fair. I don't know of any other creative people, whether in movies or TV
or music or writing or newspaper strips or most all other comic books who are
flat-out ROBBED of their rights the way Disney comic book freelancers are. But that's the way it is. However, the blade cuts both ways,
as you say: Oberon can "swipe" Gladstone's work and Hamilton can "swipe" Oberon's stuff, and nobody has to pay or give credit since
it's ALL Disney property. But notice: by this system, Oberon profits, Hamilton profits, but the CREATORS still don't profit a penny.
Any fool can see how unjust that is. Hamilton pays Barks a small voluntary royalty to stay on his good side -- but Oberon doesn't need
to worry about that.
This inclusion of the CBG awards in this digest -- is this to suggest that Disney fans should vote for DISNEY comics? That is an
utter waste of time in America! In Norway, one of my stories won "Best Comic of the Year" over everything else in the world! But in
America, my work is not even reported as existing in things like CBG. Disney comics are the pariah of American comics, those which
comics fans are taught to shun. Voting for Disney comics in American award polls is futile and laughable to any typical American comics
fan of 1993.
What would it cost to send CK #1-3 overseas? I dunno... give me your address and we'll see. Who was that... Per?
S'all.
Why do I sometimes get "returned, undeliverable mail" in my E-mail box? It's my replies to these digests, and it seems that my replies
are included in the next digest, so I don't know what was "undeliverable". I wish I knew who to ask these posers to.
As for Gladstone's relation to $crooge, "Race to the South Seas" IS the story to go to... but only partially, as Barks made an ERROR
in that story in explaining who Gladstone was to $crooge. Barks pointed this out to me himself when I was quizzing him while building
my "official" Family Tree. The line in that story of Gladstone being the son of $crooge's sister's sister-in-law is the accurate one.
I can't recall what the second phrase was in the story... something about $crooge being somebody's brother or such... but it is clearly
contradictory to the previous line and should be ignored. ALL will be clear when my Tree is printed throughout the Egmont countries
in a few weeks.
As far as poor fans having the right to see all of Barks' work like the rich fans... well, isn't that the age-old question? If Barks
owned his own work (which he doesn't), shouldn't he have the right to profit off or prevent the use of it at his whim? That's the way
every other creative field on the planet works, EXCEPT DISNEY COMICS. Disney is one of the last hold-outs to the middle ages in this
respect. I'd be quite upset by how little I'm paid for my (popular?) stories, and how I make not a cent in royalties no matter how many
companies use it or how well my comics sell... but I
KNEW that would be the way it would be. It still is far from fair. I don't know of any other creative people, whether in movies or TV
or music or writing or newspaper strips or most all other comic books who are
flat-out ROBBED of their rights the way Disney comic book freelancers are. But that's the way it is. However, the blade cuts both ways,
as you say: Oberon can "swipe" Gladstone's work and Hamilton can "swipe" Oberon's stuff, and nobody has to pay or give credit since
it's ALL Disney property. But notice: by this system, Oberon profits, Hamilton profits, but the CREATORS still don't profit a penny.
Any fool can see how unjust that is. Hamilton pays Barks a small voluntary royalty to stay on his good side -- but Oberon doesn't need
to worry about that.
This inclusion of the CBG awards in this digest -- is this to suggest that Disney fans should vote for DISNEY comics? That is an
utter waste of time in America! In Norway, one of my stories won "Best Comic of the Year" over everything else in the world! But in
America, my work is not even reported as existing in things like CBG. Disney comics are the pariah of American comics, those which
comics fans are taught to shun. Voting for Disney comics in American award polls is futile and laughable to any typical American comics
fan of 1993.
What would it cost to send CK #1-3 overseas? I dunno... give me your address and we'll see. Who was that... Per?
S'all.
Don Rosa
Digest #12
Message 13 -
1993-05-05 at 16:11:23
COMMENTS ON #12:
#12 only contained a most interesting message to me from Luigi in Italy! Yes, my ancestors are from Italy. In fact my father was
born there, in a small village at the foot of the Alps called (I think) Montiago or Moniago or something like that. My grandfather's
name was Gioachino which no one in America could pronounce, so they called him Chino which became spelled "Keno" which is the name
I was given. My grandmother was from Venice; her name was Chilistina Titiano, and claimed direct lineage to/from Titian, having proof
in documents which have since been lost. There are still lots of Rosas in north Italy (I'm the last Rosa in America) and I hope to
visit there someday... only one doesn't get rich working on Disney comics for reasons I explained last time.
I would be VERY VERY interested in seeing reprints of my work in Italy -- but I didn't think there WERE any. Italy has only digest
sized Disney comics, and I do comic-book-size comics. Besides, some years ago Italian Disney comics started developing into something
that look more like Harvey comics (the American company that does stuff like Casper and Wendy the Good Lil' Witch)... and my art
definitely doesn't fit that mold. But if you can find Italian reprints of my work, that would obviously mean more to me than any other
foreign (to me) reprints of my stuff!
#12 only contained a most interesting message to me from Luigi in Italy! Yes, my ancestors are from Italy. In fact my father was
born there, in a small village at the foot of the Alps called (I think) Montiago or Moniago or something like that. My grandfather's
name was Gioachino which no one in America could pronounce, so they called him Chino which became spelled "Keno" which is the name
I was given. My grandmother was from Venice; her name was Chilistina Titiano, and claimed direct lineage to/from Titian, having proof
in documents which have since been lost. There are still lots of Rosas in north Italy (I'm the last Rosa in America) and I hope to
visit there someday... only one doesn't get rich working on Disney comics for reasons I explained last time.
I would be VERY VERY interested in seeing reprints of my work in Italy -- but I didn't think there WERE any. Italy has only digest
sized Disney comics, and I do comic-book-size comics. Besides, some years ago Italian Disney comics started developing into something
that look more like Harvey comics (the American company that does stuff like Casper and Wendy the Good Lil' Witch)... and my art
definitely doesn't fit that mold. But if you can find Italian reprints of my work, that would obviously mean more to me than any other
foreign (to me) reprints of my stuff!
Mark Semich
Disney...
Message 14 -
1993-05-05 at 22:48:08
<Don writes:>
> (......) I'd
>be quite upset by how little I'm paid for my (popular?) stories, and
>how I make not a cent in royalties no matter how many companies use it
>or how well my comics sell... but I KNEW that would be the way it
>would be. It still is far from fair. I don't know of any other
>creative people, whether in movies or TV or music or writing or
>newspaper strips or most all other comic books who are flat-out ROBBED
>of their rights the way Disney comic book freelancers are. But that's
>the way it is.
I've been hearing for quite a while about the evils of Disney Comics -
forgive my ignorance, but is anything any different in the U.S. now
that Gladstone is publishing the books rather than Disney? Do they
pay royalties at all?
>In Norway, one of my stories won "Best Comic of the Year" over
>everything else in the world!
!! Which story was this?
>Disney comics are the pariah of American comics, those which
>comics fans are taught to shun.
Hmm - does this put you in the same category as those who did Tintin,
Asterix, and Little Nemo... ?
>Voting for Disney comics in American
>award polls is futile and laughable to any typical American comics fan
>of 1993.
Perhaps, but that won't stop me from voting... :-)
mark semich - mas at csa.bu.edu
P.S - Does anyone know when Gladstone is going to start
publishing Don Rosa's Life of Scrooge??
I'm really looking forward to this...
> (......) I'd
>be quite upset by how little I'm paid for my (popular?) stories, and
>how I make not a cent in royalties no matter how many companies use it
>or how well my comics sell... but I KNEW that would be the way it
>would be. It still is far from fair. I don't know of any other
>creative people, whether in movies or TV or music or writing or
>newspaper strips or most all other comic books who are flat-out ROBBED
>of their rights the way Disney comic book freelancers are. But that's
>the way it is.
I've been hearing for quite a while about the evils of Disney Comics -
forgive my ignorance, but is anything any different in the U.S. now
that Gladstone is publishing the books rather than Disney? Do they
pay royalties at all?
>In Norway, one of my stories won "Best Comic of the Year" over
>everything else in the world!
!! Which story was this?
>Disney comics are the pariah of American comics, those which
>comics fans are taught to shun.
Hmm - does this put you in the same category as those who did Tintin,
Asterix, and Little Nemo... ?
>Voting for Disney comics in American
>award polls is futile and laughable to any typical American comics fan
>of 1993.
Perhaps, but that won't stop me from voting... :-)
mark semich - mas at csa.bu.edu
P.S - Does anyone know when Gladstone is going to start
publishing Don Rosa's Life of Scrooge??
I'm really looking forward to this...
Per Starback
"Undeliverable mail"; relations; ownership
Message 15 -
1993-05-06 at 19:08:30
Undeliverable mail
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Rosa:
> Why do I sometimes get "returned, undeliverable mail" in my E-mail
> box? It's my replies to these digests, and it seems that my replies
> are included in the next digest, so I don't know what was
> "undeliverable".
This is something that I guess several posters to the list might have
been wondering about. What's happening is that there's something
wrong with one or two of the ~50 addresses the message gets sent to,
so the mailer programs *at that site* sends back a "bounce message" to
whomever sent that message to inform them. Of course it would be
better if I got all those bounce messages instead, but I don't know if
there's anything I can do about it. If you want to steer them to me,
just add a header line
"Errors-To: owner-disney-comics at student.docs.uu.se"
to your messages. Of course I try to change or sometimes remove
erroneous addresses in the subscription list every time I get one of
those bounce messages, so I hope they are not too frequent.
Relationships in Race to the South Seas
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don> I can't recall what the second phrase was in the story...
Don> something about $crooge being somebody's brother or such... but
Don> it is clearly contradictory to the previous line and should be
Don> ignored.
Aren't you referring to the very line I quoted where Gladstone Gander
is said to be son of Scrooge McDuck's sister-in-law, which is a
contradiction only if you can't call your sister's [proper]
sister-in-law a sister-in-law. English is not my first language, so I
have no opinion really, but at least Torsten seemed to think that
possible.
Anyway, it's pretty clear how they are related in that story, and it
agrees with Barks's tree too.
Don> ALL will be clear when my Tree is printed throughout the
Don> Egmont countries in a few weeks.
You never mentioned what other changes you made to Barks's tree except
using Della instead of Thelma as the name of Donald's sister, but I
guess I'll get to know that anyway then. Do you happen to know which
week?
Ownership of stories etc.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sure, it would be great if Barks had gotten the rewards of the
popularity of his stories instead of Western or Disney etc., but I
don't see why that would make anyone upset about Disney publishers
publishing a story as Barks intended it *instead of* the censored
version? They would have been making money off Barks whatever version
of whatever story they printed, but this way they tried to give the
readers something extra and they treated Barks's story in a better way
than it'd ever been treated before.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Rosa:
> Why do I sometimes get "returned, undeliverable mail" in my E-mail
> box? It's my replies to these digests, and it seems that my replies
> are included in the next digest, so I don't know what was
> "undeliverable".
This is something that I guess several posters to the list might have
been wondering about. What's happening is that there's something
wrong with one or two of the ~50 addresses the message gets sent to,
so the mailer programs *at that site* sends back a "bounce message" to
whomever sent that message to inform them. Of course it would be
better if I got all those bounce messages instead, but I don't know if
there's anything I can do about it. If you want to steer them to me,
just add a header line
"Errors-To: owner-disney-comics at student.docs.uu.se"
to your messages. Of course I try to change or sometimes remove
erroneous addresses in the subscription list every time I get one of
those bounce messages, so I hope they are not too frequent.
Relationships in Race to the South Seas
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don> I can't recall what the second phrase was in the story...
Don> something about $crooge being somebody's brother or such... but
Don> it is clearly contradictory to the previous line and should be
Don> ignored.
Aren't you referring to the very line I quoted where Gladstone Gander
is said to be son of Scrooge McDuck's sister-in-law, which is a
contradiction only if you can't call your sister's [proper]
sister-in-law a sister-in-law. English is not my first language, so I
have no opinion really, but at least Torsten seemed to think that
possible.
Anyway, it's pretty clear how they are related in that story, and it
agrees with Barks's tree too.
Don> ALL will be clear when my Tree is printed throughout the
Don> Egmont countries in a few weeks.
You never mentioned what other changes you made to Barks's tree except
using Della instead of Thelma as the name of Donald's sister, but I
guess I'll get to know that anyway then. Do you happen to know which
week?
Ownership of stories etc.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sure, it would be great if Barks had gotten the rewards of the
popularity of his stories instead of Western or Disney etc., but I
don't see why that would make anyone upset about Disney publishers
publishing a story as Barks intended it *instead of* the censored
version? They would have been making money off Barks whatever version
of whatever story they printed, but this way they tried to give the
readers something extra and they treated Barks's story in a better way
than it'd ever been treated before.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"